Welcome to the Neoteric.net discussion forum!

We look forward to your thoughts and comments regarding the Neoteric beliefs, and broader discussion topics surrounding the interface between science and spirituality.

The messages in this site are very intriguing. Looking forward to more content from Neoteric.
-HWL

So am I

Thanks for accepting my request to be a part of your Neoteric Evolution...looking forward to participating in some good discussions...

~The Orgiastic Neoteric Evolutionary, aka elementaloneami

groovy site...i think we can really do some cosmic unlimited stuff together. i'm willing and crafty enough to launch effort.

I have been in search of a site such as this for quite some time, in which thoughts and experiences can be shared about science and technology's contributions to spiritual enlightenment. I'm always looking for new ways to bring my consciousness and awarness to new levels and sharing what I learn with others. I would be happy to hear from anyone who may be further down the road than I am in the latest in spiritiual advancement technology/techniques. Any thoughts to share?

In Lak' Ech, at first this site seamed very promising to me as the mission statement involves things i've been researching and discussiong a for quite some time now. and i very firmly believe that out next evolutionary step is going to be a concious and creative one, and as according to neoteric will perhaps be aided with technology. but what i want to know is who is behind this? is it one person or 100 people? and what are the basis of their beliefs? i can tell these beliefs are based on some old and some new theories but what exactly is the inspiration here? is it a motivation to actualy launch an effort for the human race? or are they (who ever they are)trying to simply spread the gospel? i think i am probably all for the cause, i just have a lot of questions but only get replies from the "IMP" (internet messaging program)

This article caught my eye in terms of the Neoteric beliefs enumerating the ability of the Internet to bring together different cultures, and foster a sense of global oneness and compassion:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...lull&sn=001&sc=1000

if anyone here wants to engage in an actual discussion you are welcome to visit my new discussions group on myspace http://groups.myspace.com/homoluminous if you have a myspace account and should want to join you are welcome to post your own topics. you should also know that there are a lot of other groups on myspace full of lots of creative and intellectual people with lots of constructive ideas. further more i think you would gain a world more information and perspective going there than you will ever get from just this one web site. unless you don't have your own views then i guess you should just do what ever neoteric suggests! :)

Is this something like Sri Aurobindo's vision of creating Supermind and SuperConciousness?but isnt Sprituality itself esoteric in nature in this physical plane? If the goal is to make it opensource then we already have this knowledge out there which is to go inward. Science today is mostly built on physical realities(outward) that confirms to Newtonian physics. So if the goal is to do something along the lines of Quantum physics and deal with subatomic elements and somehow map that with practises like meditation it will be interesting.So is Neoterics building something like a Quantum Computer or is this about trying to access the spiritual plane/quantum field from the physical plane?

I just have too many questions.

Thanks!!

ONCE AGAIN,BECAUSE MY MESSAGE WAS DELETED, SUPPOSEDLY...BY THE TOPIC ADMIN,BUT I DON'T THINK SO. ANYWAY,I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING INTERESTS IN METAPHYSICS SINCE 1979 IN COLLEGE. I HAVE REARCHED AND DELVED INTO TOPICS SUCH AS LUCID DREAMING,PAST LIFE REGRESSION,EINSTEINS THEORHETICAL(THEY SAY) PHYSICS,CONSCIOUSNESS AFTER DEATH, AND A HOST OF VARIOUS SPIRITUAL TO PHYSICAL EVOLUTIONARY STATES OF MIND AND BODY,(OBE'S). I HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO VENTURE TO THIS SITE BECAUSE IT IS ON THE SAME LEVEL WHICH SOME NARROW-MINDED INDIVIDUALS CANNOT BEGIN...TO COMPREHEND! THRU MY STUDIES W/LUCID DREAMING,I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WAKE MYSELF UP IN THE DREAM&PARTICIPATE BY FINDING A DISCREPANCY/ABNORMAL THING THAT DOESNT RELATE CORRECTLY THEN...I KNOW IT'S A DREAM AND CAN CONTINUE IN IT CONCIOUSLY,EVENTHOUGH I AM UNCONCONSCIOUSLY ASLEEP(REM)STATE 3. I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS AND IDEAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UPON CONCERNING YOUR NEOTERIC IDEALISM WHICH I FIND QUITE INTERESTING AND HIGHLY FACTUAL!!
SUBCRIBED A FEW MINUTES AGO TO JOIN YOUR FORUM BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT ALL THINGS ARE OF NATURE AND IT'S EVOLUTIONARY PROCESSES THRU PHYSICS AND SCIENCE AS WELL. ANY COMMENTS BECAUSE I WILL CONTINUE TO RELATE AND CORRELATE ON YOUR NEOTERIC IDEALISM.IT IS VERY STIMULATING TO MY MIND AND THOUGHT FORMS!

Quantum physics has validated, to many, their inner feelings that spirituality and science do indeed share the same basic source.

What is the goal here?

I meditate and occasionally utilize sound programs to assist moving into a specific state, e.g. theta.

Where do we go with this forum folks??

Nice layout of words to propose your approach to refining our evolving understanding of the transcendent. Openings of ones consciousness can be
stimulated by a site such as this. But, what is the next step in your
approach? Something along the lines of Tolle's writings, which offer constructive involvement with ones beliefs, would be helpful to those like-minded seekers who are looking for a deeper participation and have come across this site. An e-book, gatherings, regular e-mail messages and a MySpace community might be a broader avenue for interconnecting with greater capacity, along the lines of your intentions. Open source participation still needs stimulating and creative leadership. Keep the content flowing and branching. This is the nature of life and spirit. Thanks for your words.

I've written a series of blogs that resonate with the Neoteric beliefs. Here is the first in the series, about tribalism and how it is playing out in the current political arena:

http://stevenmeloan.blogspot.com/2008/01/gene-genie.html

Edited by author 05-17-2008 08:01 PM
The longest journey begins with a single step.
This journey began long ago, and now more single steps are moving in, merging with an already established path.
The more that walk the same path, the easier it is to detect; it becomes visible to more, and more difficult to deny.
The more that walk the path, the more valid, believable and trustworthy the path becomes.
I join my path with your path; our goals are One.

Science and Spirituality are merging. Our time is Now.
Edgar D. Mitchell and the Institute of Noetic Sciences is but one example.
Centerpointe Holosync is yet another.
There is so much to say, but time enough....
I'm in synch with your path, and will walk with you.

Come join a parallel path: a discussion of your experiences, at:

http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/VCJX5wvsGXjrT

1 Spirit

Well
Science and spirituality are basically the same thing in different form.
One deals primarily with denser states of energy.
The latter deals primarily with low density forms of energy, which we get to experience during meditation etc.
The thing about the latter is , that it is an individual journey.
And just as in science, unless an individual isn't willing to learn the truths out there, he wont be learning anything at all.
Just as in science, a particular set of conditions like a vegetarian diet, discipline < mental and physical > , meditation, breathing techniques etc aids in discovering this energy hidden in our bodies , and thus our worlds.
And as is the case in science, just like the way you would learn from a high end professor who is doing research in an area, you learn a lot from the words of enlightened masters or from themselves.
One of them is Paramahansa Nityananda... Others would be Paramahansa Yogananda, Confucious, Lao Tzu , OSHO,Zen masters, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Siva Baba, HamsaYogi ... and many others.
My experience in research in this area would include Hindu scriptures like Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagawath gita, Ashtavakra Gita, principles of tantra and things like that.
The funny thing is that, most of the scriptures seem to claim that all of us are indeed one. and our egos tend to limit the grandiose reality that we are.
We tend to get stuck in one area of the mind, which would be just the conscious , and classify the rest of the mind as sub conscious only, without even realizing the existence of sub sub conscious < where the seeds of our sub conscious impressions or desires generate > , sub super conscious < where intuitions come from , and mind you even Einstein says that intuition is the highest thing that could happen to a scientist > and the super conscious mind < which is the state of godhead > .
Friends,
I guess its time that we really took on this journey of spirituality scientifically, by exploring like a scientist within, and base all our theories based on our experiences alone, and validate that with experiences of others, and that in the scriptures.
Honesty as in any research should reveal you the ultimate grandiose in this universe, instead of clinging on to the externalities of mind which are good or bad.
WISH YOU ALL GOD LUCK!! MY PRAYERS WITH YOU!! :)

Words, words, words.
Blah, blah, blah.
This is all a fancy glob of nothing:
the same old rehashed over simplified and nonpoetic paltry attempt at a supposed explanation of why the sacred institutions have failed.
Have you walked into the CATHOLIC CATHEDRAL OF OUR LADY OF ANGELS?
If you have not, then do so and then try to tell me that religion has failed.
This CATHEDRAL as well NORTE DAME and many others are a profoundly beautiful manmade places of deep meditation and prayer.
A grand place of prayer and spiritual rebirth is awe inspiring and truly uplifting to the human spirit.
Your myopic and negatively motivated hate speech towards the religious institutions to which you have wrongfully turned your back , or even worse case, perhaps were never introduced to in a positive manner as a child by your negligent parents, exposes your failure of experiencing the true wonder therein attainable.
Get thee to a church, kneel down, and say a prayer.
Thank GOD for what you are and for the universe that he created for you to contemplate.
Do this and call me in the morning.
Love, Jim Sitterly, DMA

"CALL YE NO MAN FATHER, BUT YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN."
Jesus of Nazereth

Catholic (i.e. universal Christian Church.) Doctrine
Priests shall be called "Father."

Saul of Tarsus realized a Universal message early:
"If you can't beat them, join them."

He corrupted the message of Jesus, and established a church that was a lie.
Read the synoptic gospels,
then read all of Paul's writings.

Paul's teachings are often in accord with Jesus, but on the important things, he diverges, and has corrupted Christianity forever.

If I told you, you wouldn't believe it. You must find it for yourself, if you can.
If you can't, then you are too far programmed, and I can't help you.



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brigittetinia
Your experiences parallel my own. I do lucid dreaming, ciontrolling my dreams and astral? project - i.e., travel via my dream states.

Contact me at spirit@hawaii.rr.com
Let's talk.

My reactions? WELL WRITTEN / WELL THOUGHT.... but then, "thinking" of spirituality is NOT Spirituality (which is an EVENT)! But anything... ANYTHING to get people out of their BOXES, right? Sufism is my preferred technique — symbolized by a heart with wings. But then, what has it done for the Muslims... not much it seems! Maybe Neotericism will turn the computer nerds off coffee? May all Beings be Happy.

Sunset from Atop Tantalus Mountain Above Honolulu Town

Hi,

After almost fully reviewing the neoteric website I was compelled to email them to find out where they are based, or if its a global internet thing. Anyway - I think they are on the right track. Duality between the animal portion of ourselves and and the human portion of ourselves is where the struggle for a better consciousness is weighed. Its mindless to act like animals and thus easier - its the defualt lowest option that's as the neoteric site put it - hardwired: No journey in to the higher mind is needed. But the benefits of a cooperative and harmonistic situation are lost, as harmony and cooperation are not hard-wired they require that spiritual elevation (going up requires work). So we have what we have today - a bunch of lazy fools who stay animal because it feels good to serve self. Okay - Whatever. Then you have the few that do the harmony seeking (elevation out of the animal mind and into the human mind) and they serve as an example of what we can all have - a better life that's kinda far away from self service.

Its good to remember the levels of existance. The Bible and all spiritual teaching point the way, but the elevator is operated by you, so where you going today - self service a coulpe of floors down or cooperation and harmony a discreet level up into the real realm of human anything and pushing aside of animal everything. Taken into account what you want and then find out how its really selfish and no good and then run away from it.

Aloha from Honolulu