I have been in search of a site such as this for quite some time, in which thoughts and experiences can be shared about science and technology's contributions to spiritual enlightenment. I'm always looking for new ways to bring my consciousness and awarness to new levels and sharing what I learn with others. I would be happy to hear from anyone who may be further down the road than I am in the latest in spiritiual advancement technology/techniques. Any thoughts to share?

In Lak' Ech, at first this site seamed very promising to me as the mission statement involves things i've been researching and discussiong a for quite some time now. and i very firmly believe that out next evolutionary step is going to be a concious and creative one, and as according to neoteric will perhaps be aided with technology. but what i want to know is who is behind this? is it one person or 100 people? and what are the basis of their beliefs? i can tell these beliefs are based on some old and some new theories but what exactly is the inspiration here? is it a motivation to actualy launch an effort for the human race? or are they (who ever they are)trying to simply spread the gospel? i think i am probably all for the cause, i just have a lot of questions but only get replies from the "IMP" (internet messaging program)

This article caught my eye in terms of the Neoteric beliefs enumerating the ability of the Internet to bring together different cultures, and foster a sense of global oneness and compassion:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...lull&sn=001&sc=1000

if anyone here wants to engage in an actual discussion you are welcome to visit my new discussions group on myspace http://groups.myspace.com/homoluminous if you have a myspace account and should want to join you are welcome to post your own topics. you should also know that there are a lot of other groups on myspace full of lots of creative and intellectual people with lots of constructive ideas. further more i think you would gain a world more information and perspective going there than you will ever get from just this one web site. unless you don't have your own views then i guess you should just do what ever neoteric suggests! :)

Is this something like Sri Aurobindo's vision of creating Supermind and SuperConciousness?but isnt Sprituality itself esoteric in nature in this physical plane? If the goal is to make it opensource then we already have this knowledge out there which is to go inward. Science today is mostly built on physical realities(outward) that confirms to Newtonian physics. So if the goal is to do something along the lines of Quantum physics and deal with subatomic elements and somehow map that with practises like meditation it will be interesting.So is Neoterics building something like a Quantum Computer or is this about trying to access the spiritual plane/quantum field from the physical plane?

I just have too many questions.

Thanks!!

ONCE AGAIN,BECAUSE MY MESSAGE WAS DELETED, SUPPOSEDLY...BY THE TOPIC ADMIN,BUT I DON'T THINK SO. ANYWAY,I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING INTERESTS IN METAPHYSICS SINCE 1979 IN COLLEGE. I HAVE REARCHED AND DELVED INTO TOPICS SUCH AS LUCID DREAMING,PAST LIFE REGRESSION,EINSTEINS THEORHETICAL(THEY SAY) PHYSICS,CONSCIOUSNESS AFTER DEATH, AND A HOST OF VARIOUS SPIRITUAL TO PHYSICAL EVOLUTIONARY STATES OF MIND AND BODY,(OBE'S). I HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO VENTURE TO THIS SITE BECAUSE IT IS ON THE SAME LEVEL WHICH SOME NARROW-MINDED INDIVIDUALS CANNOT BEGIN...TO COMPREHEND! THRU MY STUDIES W/LUCID DREAMING,I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WAKE MYSELF UP IN THE DREAM&PARTICIPATE BY FINDING A DISCREPANCY/ABNORMAL THING THAT DOESNT RELATE CORRECTLY THEN...I KNOW IT'S A DREAM AND CAN CONTINUE IN IT CONCIOUSLY,EVENTHOUGH I AM UNCONCONSCIOUSLY ASLEEP(REM)STATE 3. I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS AND IDEAS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UPON CONCERNING YOUR NEOTERIC IDEALISM WHICH I FIND QUITE INTERESTING AND HIGHLY FACTUAL!!
SUBCRIBED A FEW MINUTES AGO TO JOIN YOUR FORUM BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT ALL THINGS ARE OF NATURE AND IT'S EVOLUTIONARY PROCESSES THRU PHYSICS AND SCIENCE AS WELL. ANY COMMENTS BECAUSE I WILL CONTINUE TO RELATE AND CORRELATE ON YOUR NEOTERIC IDEALISM.IT IS VERY STIMULATING TO MY MIND AND THOUGHT FORMS!

Quantum physics has validated, to many, their inner feelings that spirituality and science do indeed share the same basic source.

What is the goal here?

I meditate and occasionally utilize sound programs to assist moving into a specific state, e.g. theta.

Where do we go with this forum folks??

Nice layout of words to propose your approach to refining our evolving understanding of the transcendent. Openings of ones consciousness can be
stimulated by a site such as this. But, what is the next step in your
approach? Something along the lines of Tolle's writings, which offer constructive involvement with ones beliefs, would be helpful to those like-minded seekers who are looking for a deeper participation and have come across this site. An e-book, gatherings, regular e-mail messages and a MySpace community might be a broader avenue for interconnecting with greater capacity, along the lines of your intentions. Open source participation still needs stimulating and creative leadership. Keep the content flowing and branching. This is the nature of life and spirit. Thanks for your words.

I've written a series of blogs that resonate with the Neoteric beliefs. Here is the first in the series, about tribalism and how it is playing out in the current political arena:

http://stevenmeloan.blogspot.com/2008/01/gene-genie.html

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The longest journey begins with a single step.
This journey began long ago, and now more single steps are moving in, merging with an already established path.
The more that walk the same path, the easier it is to detect; it becomes visible to more, and more difficult to deny.
The more that walk the path, the more valid, believable and trustworthy the path becomes.
I join my path with your path; our goals are One.

Science and Spirituality are merging. Our time is Now.
Edgar D. Mitchell and the Institute of Noetic Sciences is but one example.
Centerpointe Holosync is yet another.
There is so much to say, but time enough....
I'm in synch with your path, and will walk with you.

Come join a parallel path: a discussion of your experiences, at:

http://www.quicktopic.com/41/H/VCJX5wvsGXjrT

1 Spirit

Well
Science and spirituality are basically the same thing in different form.
One deals primarily with denser states of energy.
The latter deals primarily with low density forms of energy, which we get to experience during meditation etc.
The thing about the latter is , that it is an individual journey.
And just as in science, unless an individual isn't willing to learn the truths out there, he wont be learning anything at all.
Just as in science, a particular set of conditions like a vegetarian diet, discipline < mental and physical > , meditation, breathing techniques etc aids in discovering this energy hidden in our bodies , and thus our worlds.
And as is the case in science, just like the way you would learn from a high end professor who is doing research in an area, you learn a lot from the words of enlightened masters or from themselves.
One of them is Paramahansa Nityananda... Others would be Paramahansa Yogananda, Confucious, Lao Tzu , OSHO,Zen masters, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Siva Baba, HamsaYogi ... and many others.
My experience in research in this area would include Hindu scriptures like Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagawath gita, Ashtavakra Gita, principles of tantra and things like that.
The funny thing is that, most of the scriptures seem to claim that all of us are indeed one. and our egos tend to limit the grandiose reality that we are.
We tend to get stuck in one area of the mind, which would be just the conscious , and classify the rest of the mind as sub conscious only, without even realizing the existence of sub sub conscious < where the seeds of our sub conscious impressions or desires generate > , sub super conscious < where intuitions come from , and mind you even Einstein says that intuition is the highest thing that could happen to a scientist > and the super conscious mind < which is the state of godhead > .
Friends,
I guess its time that we really took on this journey of spirituality scientifically, by exploring like a scientist within, and base all our theories based on our experiences alone, and validate that with experiences of others, and that in the scriptures.
Honesty as in any research should reveal you the ultimate grandiose in this universe, instead of clinging on to the externalities of mind which are good or bad.
WISH YOU ALL GOD LUCK!! MY PRAYERS WITH YOU!! :)