We have started up a Mt. Washington Road Race Forum (Bulletin board).

This forum has been created for the convenience of those people selected in the 2008 lottery. Race management is not responsible for its contents and does not monitor or respond to questions that may be submitted there. Due to the changes at the top of the mountain you may want to use this tool to arrange your ride down the mountain. Remember, you must make your own arrangements for the ride down the mountain and it must be arranged prior to race day.

   Well, I just signed up for the lottery again. I ran the race last year for the first time. Half-way up the mountain I said I hoped I didn't win the lottery next year, but once I reached the top, I knew I had to run it again. Can't wait for the lottery results! This is the ultimate race! Hope to see you all there again.
Mike

I plan on doing some of my training on a treadmil. Does anyone know what incline I should use as a training tool for the race?
Any advice would be appreciated.

Hi Doug,
   Set your treadmill on the highest setting! That will give you an idea of the race.
   For my training last year, I ran every hill I could find, including mountain trails. The difference though is that on any uphill, there is always a downhill to help you catch your breath. On the Mt. Washington race, there is no downhill or even level spot where you can catch up.
   If I'm chosen for the lottery this year, I'm going to do more long-distance runs of 15 or so miles to build up my endurance.
Hope this helps and good luck,
Mike

Hi Mike,
Thanks for your advice. I just realised I'm already signed up for the Grandma's Marathon in Duluth, MN on that day, so I won't be entering the lottery this year after all. But there is always next year, so the advice will be put to good use.
Thanks again.
Doug

If I am selected and cannot bounce back quick enough after Boston can I defer my number to next year.

Check the "Date Specific" section of the Mt. Washington Road Race website for information about injuries,etc.

bb

Edited by author 03-15-2008 05:47 AM
To everyone signed up for the first time and feeling nervous about this race. This is the "best" event in New England, bar none. You will love this race! Set your treadmill on 12% or hit some of the hill climb series events like Mt Wachusett for training. Mt. Wachusett is a good "primer" on 5/24. It is not as long a race or sustained steep grade, but a good tune-up.

I signed up for the lottery on the first day it was available - the wait for the results is killing me. This will be my first Mt. race, hope to see you all there.

Does anyone know how many people enter the lottery?

Okay, you can't be serious about the 12% grade on the treadmill!!!???!?!

I think that there should be a category for mass x gravity x height = potential energy (foot -lbs)
Get that and divide by time !! Foot-pounds/sec !!
 Have an intial weigh in and then multiply by the elevation difference.( Difference in elevation betwen the start of race and elevation of finish.)

Weight of person x elevation difference between start and finish line and divide it by time to run the race.

can divide that number by 550 and get horsepower !!! Hreat idea or not !!

Have you run Pike Peak? This one is a lung buster too! Matt Carpenter makes the Peak look like an easy jog up! I ran Mt Washinton about 3 rimes. Hoping for a lottory spot. Two years ago didn't get in. Here's hoping ! Good luck.

When is the list usually posted? Good luck everyone!

List should be posted today! I ran the race in 05 & 06 (slowly!) and live in flat South Jersey, so the posts about 12 degrees on your treadmill are right on! I had mine on various inclines, but mostly 12 & up to 15

Yes, I did Pikes Peak Ascent last year. That was a fun event too. I'll definitely go back to that race. It is tough on us East Coast folk who reside at sea level.

WHEN'S THE LIST COMING OUT??? IT'S TWO DAYS LATE...DRIVING ME CRAZY WAITING...

Has anyone seen a charge against their credit card account?

I just saw a pending transaction on my account from comfortsignups.com that is dated March 24th. Looking at this website it is for a lot races in the NH and CT area, even though Mount Washington isn't listed I think this is it.

comfortsignups.com is the correct venue for Mt Washington.
If you have an entry on your credit card statement you are in.
I made it.
Good luck, train for a half marathon and do lots of hills, you will need it.

Now that the list is posted ....... I'm need a ride down from the top if someone has room in their car for one more.

where is the list?

www.gsrs.com/intherace.htm - not sure why they haven't linked it to the MRR site yet but this is the address that was on the confirmation page I got when I did my lottery registration

I will also need a ride down and would like to get this figured out sooner rather than later.

So far I didn't make the list.. Is the list complete?? I was really looking forward to running 'the hill'. Oh well, maybe next year.

Looks like I made the list! Any ideas of how to travel from SC to do the race then make it to CoeurdAlene Idaho to watch one of my buddies in the Iron Man the next day?

I didn't make the list either... I'm bummed but I will keep up my training and I hope to run up the Auto Road at some point even if it's by myself. Are there any restrictions on pedestrians occupying the Auto Road on typical non-race days?

I made the list, there goes my streak of not winning anything! I will be in need of a ride down the mountain after the race, if anyone has space available in their car please email me: jfur2133@yahoo. com. Thanks.

Lucked out and made the lottery. I have been looking forward to this for a number of years. Need a ride down. If you have room in your car please email me at snowsa@aol.com.

Thanks!

Also looking for a ride down - my email address is AMWinchester@verizon.net

posted below that I'm looking for a ride down, email is wjm03e@fsu.edu

5th year in a row to miss the "lottery". Time to move the Mt. Ascutney race and start using it as a qualifier. Time to stay healthuy, finish the USATFNE Mt. Series and bypass the damn thing for 2009.

*healthy

Can my daughter ride up the hill with my wife? All info seems to say that my wife has to ride up ALONE.If she can't be in the vehicle,then I will need a ride down.Too bad--I have a truck and could have brought a bunch of people down.mcpostman@maine.rr.com

Two runners in need of ride down.
Please email me at yogie1957@live.com

Hi.
First time doing the race.
My brother and I could use a lift down.
Obviously willing to pay costs if any are incurred for your parking and generosity.
If possible contact mjkhome@verizon.net.
Thank you,
Mike

After many years of trying I finally hit the lottery and now the fun really begins. I as well will need a ride down from the top and would certainly pay for the ride.
Thanks
my email is bricci@ricciconstruction.com

Hi everyone.

We can take 2 down. Email me at stompmachine@hotmail.com

Under the circumstances, I'll pick a random pair, and contact you. If you don't hear from me, please don't follow up.

Thanks !

Jaime.

I'm another runner in need of a ride down and would also pay for the ride.
Thanks,
Brad Thomas
BigB1130@msn.com

I made the list, better start running! This is the first time I have ever been called a clydesdale! I have a relative who is going to drive up ahead of me. Chances are it will take me 2 hours to complete this one so if your a speedster you'll have to wait for me before coming down. My email is sales.reas@onecommail.com Good luck all! Always interestted iun hearing training tips for the beginner.

My wife offered to pony people back down the mountain, but since our son will be 6mths old, I dissuaded her. A meltdown by the little fella at 6288ft, amongst traffic and strangers may be a bit much. Soooo, this runner is looking for a ride as well. Willing to pay for the privilege. Thanks and stay healthy, all.
e-mail: bartmcca@yahoo.com

Does anybody know how you can get passes to get a car up Mt. Washington? My wife would love to drive up and bring folks down.

You have to get them from runners that you are bringing down

So if I have a car, all I need is to get 3 more runners to join me and my wife and she'll be able to drive up alone and down with the 4 of us?

Scot,
""Your vehicle may go up the road if you have at least two runner's AUTO PASSES (a tear-off tab on the race bib number) - you will pay the Tollhouse fees of $20.00 for driver/vehicle and $7.00 per additional passenger. Vehicle restrictions will apply. If your vehicle driver does not have at least TWO runner's AUTO PASSES he/she will not be allowed to drive to the summit - REMEMBER to give your driver your pass...If you have THREE auto passes then you do not have to pay the toll. Your vehicle must also have space for the 3 runners without exceeding weight limits.""

I got this from the General info section..

Happy to make the lottery and need a ride down. Masters runner from Tennessee. lee@davis-hoss.com. Thanks!

I'm another runner in need of a ride down and would also pay for the ride.
Please e-mail me at mbadura@poltel.com
Thanks,

I would like to know the numbers of how many applied for the lottory? Do you have a better chance if you run for a club and have USTF card? Good luck runners!

I had originally posted that I had room for 2 for a ride down. I gave the seats to 2 people but one cancelled out.

So, I have one seat left.
Please email me if interested.

Thanks, Jaime.

sang@stompmachine.com

p.s. If you had originally replied to my first post, email again.

Hello,
I do need a ride down from the Mt. Washington race. I live in Wisconsin, and I don't know
anyone entering the race. I'm staying in the Whites for a hiking trip too. I would greatly appreciate
any help with this. I should be at the Eagle House on Friday before race day to pick up my packet.
Even if someone could take a pack up so I coud hike down would be appreciated(weather permitting). Thanks so much!
        Don Smith smithde@milwaukee.k12.wi.us
P.S.: I won't have access to my computer until March 31 since I'm out of town.

You gotta check this out...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0NE-Vsg2b38&feature=related

To sang@stompmachine.com
If you check message 52 you see I'm in need of a ride. I hope you can consider!
Don Smith smithde@milwaukee.k12.wi.us

I am looking for a ride down like many of other runners. I am doing this solo as a personal goal, so I don't have the support of a running club. Please email me at lisaken2@comcast.net if you would consider giving me a ride. It would be greatly appreciated. I will be staying at a local hotel the night before and will meet you at a location of your choice to give you my pack of warm clothes. Even if someone doesn't have room for another rider, taking a pack up so I can hike back down would be appreciated.

Hi
My wife and kids will have room for 2 riders down. We are happy to take anyone, but we please ask for people expecting to finish under 2 hours. We have young children who could become bored spending too much time at the top.

We will meet you the day of the race at the bottom by 8:15. Email me if interested john.thompson@viant.com

I'm looking for a bib. Serious baby brain and I forgot to register. Got any ideas? This would be my 3rd Mt Washington race...I'm hooked.
Thanks

Less concerned about the ride down Mt. Washington than rides to other Mountains for training! Mount Tom ain't big enough. From around Holyoke, MA planning to go up to Ascutney once or twice and maybe Greylock, other long road or trail climbs. Suggestions? Carpool?

I have room for three other runners, but this is my first year so I'm expecting to be 2 hours. E-mail me and I'll pick up three. The vehicle is a subaru - I can put one in the front and three (crowded) in the back. Debbie - dhubbard@midmaine.com

This is my first race..yikes! I have 2 friends coming to pick me up at the end looking for 1 or 2 others for a ride down...oh and any good training advice!!! serena@isisforwomen.com

Thanks for all of the e-mails, my vehicle is full for now.

Brad Thomas, Ken Booth, and Bart McCarthy will be my riders.

Thanks and good luck!

Deb

Hey:

I have a van with one slot left for a ride down. 1st come, 1st serve.

I will finish in about 1:40 if that matters to you.

First email I get I will give it to you.

whitehousekj@comcast.net

Thanks

Jim Whitehouse
2nd time participant in this race

My wife is coming up to fetch me after the race. We are looking for 2 additional people needing a ride down. If you are interested, please email us at: gioiaschultz@comcast.net

Edited by author 03-31-2008 01:36 PM
I have reserved a room with two double beds at the Eagle Mountain House if anyone needs a room and doesn't mind sharing. e-mail me if interested. It is my first crack at Mt. Washington and I am more than a little bit intimidated.

I will be driving to NH from Rochester, NY if anyone from the PA,OH or Ontario area is looking to carpool.

Also looking for ride down from the mountain and willing to share costs. Thanks.

John

jbrinda1@yahoo.com

Hello!
I would be interested in a ride down from the mountain. I live in Wisconsin, and I obviously don't know anyone in New England. If you have room, please let me know. Don Smith smithde@milwaukee.k12.wi.us

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I would be interested since I don't know anyone, and I'm from Wisconsin. Thanks! Don Smith smithde@milwaukee.k12.wi.us

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Hello!
I do need a ride down since I'm from Wisconsin, and I don't know anyone.Thanks! Don Smith smithde@milwaukee.k12.wi.us
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Let me know if I can get a ride. I live in Wisconsin, and I don't know anyone in New England. Thanks! Don Smith smithde@milwaukee.k12.wi.us
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I need a ride down. Having never run this before, I bracketed times of runners who ran faster and slower than me on Whiteface last year. Somewhere between 1:25 and 1:44. my guess on my time is around 1:30. I hope to be on this mountain 3 other times this season: a traverse of the Presidential Range, the bicycle hillclimb in August and the prior practice ride. All 4 events means about 3000 driving miles from and back to NYC where I live for perhaps 40 total miles of running, hiking and cycling. That's not counting all the other hillclimbs this season in other states...

Let me know if you have room for me on a ride down: hschiffman1@nyc.rr.com

/m58 In response to Chris (post#58)-- I used to live in Amherst, MA and found Mt. Sugarloaf (in Sunderland, MA) to be a pretty good way to train for this-- its a short paved road (~1mi), but plenty steep! (a few up-downs was tough on the legs and helped me get in shape for my first try at Mt. Washington in 2004)
Living in Delaware now and wishing I had a good, steep hill like this one to train on!

Re (# message 63)

It looks like we are full for the ride down. If I get any cancellations I will repost a new message.

This is my first go at the Mt. Washington Road Race, and I am
scared, very scared. I have a mini-van available and I'm looking
to pick up more runners. Please e-mail me if you need a ride down
the 'big hill'. I live and will be leaving for the race, early
that morning, from the Southern Maine area. Contact me at
'woolyacresfarm@earthlink.net' Thanks and good luck to all.

/m72 you won't be alone. It is my first try as well and I'm just getting started on prep. I ran a very slow 2.5 miles on the treadmill at 25% incline the other day. I was fairly comfortable, but I can sense that this is going to be a race where muscle cramping/strain/snap is a very real possibility so I will be doing lots of stretching as part of my training.

/m73 I'm beginning to think that treadmill training may be my best option for preparing for the race. I'm curious, will you continue to add mileage for your treadmill runs? Also, do you do this workout weekly or bi-weekly?

Edited by author 04-04-2008 08:57 AM
/m74 That was my first treadmill workout at a sustained 12% grade. I run almost all of my miles outside, regardless of weather. I am semi-tapering this week to get ready for a 15K this Sunday. After that I will be dedicating probably 2 days a week to incline treadmill work and try to get longer runs outside for endurance. My goal would be to try and add half a mile to the treadmill workouts each week for the next 8 weeks. That would put me at around 6.5 or 7 miles TM runs at 12% right before the race. I'm hoping that will get me up the mountain. I think it is the best way to train for this race since there is no downhill, so running rollers outside will not give you the relentless uphill that this race calls for.

Like many others, I am looking for a ride down. If anyone has any room in their vehicle, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Rand.Monteleone@verizon.net

Edited by author 04-05-2008 10:03 AM
To those needing a ride down:

I will have one, or two cars going to the summit on race day.
Staying near the mountain Friday night, and hope to finish
(under 2:00) - if those details help. 8^)

Based on the types of vehicles, I should have need for
between 1 and 3 racers - and may be able to accommodate 1 more.

I'm not looking to make this difficult; my details are not yet
firm, I want to care for those with particular needs
(e.g. international runners, outside-NE runners, couples) -
so I'm going to ask you to come to me first.

*If your details are firm* and you can wait abit before knowing -
please send them to: breathing.in@gmail.com

I'm hoping to wrap up my planning in 2 weeks time...
let's say by Patriots' Day... 4/21.

I'll try to acknowledge your initial email, and though it may
be a generic followup - promise to tell you if we can't help
each other, and will post a notice here.

Thanks y'all ...being on the start line with each of you
will be an honor - training willing....hoping to finish with you too.
Wishing you lots of happy hillclimbs in our ever-dwindling 77 days.
Yikes.

In Lak'ech

Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry for runners
needing a ride down the mountain. My van is now full.
Good luck to all and have a great race.

First time runner and I'm in need of a ride down. (I can't imagine having to trek down after the race...)

Using the estimated time calculater, I'm anticipating a finish time between 1:30 - 1:40.

I'll be coming from the Central Maine area (Oakland). Unsure at this time if I'll be staying overnight on Friday or driving out early on race day.

I can be reached via e-mail violette04963@yahoo.com

Thanks in advance!

I am looking for a ride down after the race, if anybody has room or knows of anybody looking to fill their car can you let me know, it will be greatly appreciated. You can reach me at lkitsock@metlife.com. Thanks!!! Jim

I have a Suburban and can seat six comfortably, meaning that I can take 4 runners down the mountain. Please e-mail me at kteosherman@comcast.net if interested in a ride. If you do not get a return e-mail from me within one day of your e-mail, that means the spots are taken. I anticipate finishing the race around 1:40. I can't wait, this will be my first MWRR.

Keith

Does anyone have experience either running down the auto road or hiking down one of the trails?

After my one previous MWRR, I saw a fair number of people running down the auto road after finishing. I'd like to give that a shot, but given the heavy traffic, both up and down, it seems like it might not be the safest thing in the world. Is it possible to avoid most of the traffic by heading down soon enough?

Hiking down also appeals to me, but that's not something that I care to try on my own without some company.

If anybody has any thoughts or relevant experience, I'd be grateful to hear.

With regards to post 81, all spots have been taken in my car for the ride down.

Keith

Looking for a ride for 2 runners down after the race. If you have any space available email me at gorunn@comcast.net Much appreciated!

I haven't heard mention of the cog but is that not an option to get off the mt on race day? http://www.thecog.com/

I have room for one more runner in our vehicle. Ideally someone that will be runnning close the same time as me (I ran a 1:52 last year).

Email me at: dironstarr@aol.com

Hi, Folks,

I need a ride down. I anticipate finishing in about 1:45 or so. Let me know if you can take me. Thanks,

david dorman

dorman@middlebury.edu

Hi,

I need a ride down. I'm looking to run around 1:30.

Thanks

John Gorman

email me jjgorman@comcast.net

Hello,

I'm looking for a ride down the mountain, this is of course assuming I can make it to the top. This is my first MWRR, but I hope to finish under 2 hours.
I will be traveling from Maine that morning.

I can be reached at cjgott@suscom-maine.net

Thanks, Jim

Edited by author 04-11-2008 09:31 AM
/m85 Not sure the Cog would be the greatest choice for a way down -- not only is it pretty pricey for tix, but I think the railway takes you to the complete opposite side of the mountain (someone please correct me if I'm wrong!); so logistically I think you'd need to leave a car at the railway lot and get a lift to the race start (which i don't think is a quick trip!). Seems like it might be easier to try and find lift down than arrange that... (man, it might even be easier just to hoof it back down the auto road than arrange that!)

Sure shows what I know. I'm following the ignorance is bliss ideology as the farthest north I have been that direction is NYC! A ride down would be great however. Anyone looking for riders feel free to contact me at huck94@bellsouth.net

Hello my friends :)
;)

Looking for a ride down; anybody out there that could squeeze me in?
If you need another runner please contact me at conniejliz@yahoo.com.

First timer.... have heard stories....more then a little scared :-) Looking for a ride down...hope to finish in 2:20...actually I just want to finish. please let me know if you can provide a ride down...Thanks Burnsj@link75.org

I am looking for a ride down. If anyone has room please email me at sbanks@davis-standard.com. In reference to Buck post 82. I decided to hike down after my first MWRR. HUGE mistake. I felt great until about half-way down. My legs started to cramp up and the rest of the way was total misery. I ruined what should have been a great day.

I am looking for a ride down the mountain after the race. Anticipate 2 hour finish time. I can be reached at james.demosthenes@cigna.com

Thanks

If anyone is need of a ride down, I will have room in my car for one additional runner. If interested email me at mgrymek@gmail.com. Thanks and good luck to everyone!

I have a room with two beds reserved at the Eagle Mountain house if anyone is still without a reservation and doesn't mind bunking with a newbie stranger from Western NY.

How are the preparations for all of you going? I've been working more hills into my runs and I have also done several extended sessions on the treadmill at 12%. At this point I am just acclimating myself to the grade without any attempt at speed. I'm setting it at 3.4 MPH right, now but was able to get 3 miles at my last crack without exceeding my zone 3 HR, so I will take that as a success. I'll add another half mile next week. Right now I should be able to make it almost half way up the mountain :)

Hi all-- also have room for 1 more runner looking for a ride down. We're figuring to finish somewhere around 1:30 to 1:45, so if you predict you'll be in that range and need a lift, give me a shout:
namersb@yahoo.com

Good luck training!

Couple from Maine looking for a ride down. We haven't run this before, but we are guessing we will finish somewhere between 1:45 and 2:15. Please email us at: emacomber@avestahousing.com if you can accomodate.

/m99
Hi again- my car is now full-- thanks to all those who contacted me. See you all in June!

need ride down; 6th race up ONE HILL; 75yo avg time 2:30; last year 2:31 Ben e-mail- izabel97@comcast.net

Hi All, Have room in my car for 2 runners coming down after the run. I should complete 2:15/2:30. My first time, working hard to be ready. Let me know if you can help me fill out the car. dbd1098@aol.com

Hi Ben (102) and Ethan and Lauri (100) ,
I am looking foward to meeting you all at race time. I have e-mailed you both and hope to hear from you soon. We will make more formal arrangements on how to meet soon.

To all else, my car is now full.
Thanks and best luck in the race.

Edited by author 04-27-2008 09:45 PM
We have room for 2 runners. Estimated finish time is 2:00 - 2:15. Please let me know if you are interested in a ride down. kauerback@gmail.com. Thanks.

Edited by author 04-28-2008 03:37 PM
Hi. We need one more runner but have room for two. Estimated finish time ~ 1:30.

UPDATE: THE CAR IS FULL. Sorry....good luck, racers!

Dave
djcahill@gmail.com

Edited by author 04-28-2008 08:41 PM
I need a ride down.I'am comming alone.Ran 2:00 at whiteface a couple years back.THANKS gwerle1@nycap.rr.com

Update -- We have two riders now. Thanks!

I have room for two runners. Estimated finish time 1:40. Give me your phone # so we can confirm arrangements.

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That last post didn't seem to make much sense but then again neither does paying money to run up a really steep mountain in New Hampshire.

still looking for a ride down... time around 2:00. Anyone with any room?

guzmanbr1@yahoo.com

I too am still looking for a ride back down. I estimate my time 1:30 to 1:45 based on Whiteface, never having run Mt Washington before.
Thanks,
hschiffman1@nyc.rr.com

I have room in my friends vehicle for two more riders. I can be reached at wnlblood@roadrunner.com

I have gotten my ride down.
Thanks and good luck to all who will do this event,
Hank

We have our riders. Thanks.

Looking for a ride down. First try at Mt. Washington. Hope to break 2:30.
jsalcius@cox.net

I am looking for a ride down. I am a first timer guessing around a 2:10 finish. dipallina@excite.com

Still looking for a ride down.Anyone out there ??
        gwerle1@nycap.rr.com

Morning

Still looking for a ride up...no, actually down the mt. if you can help please email me at burnsj@link75.org Thanks :-)

jeffrey burns

George Kral....or anyone else, we are looking for a ride down the mountain. Should finish just after you. This is for myslef and Todd Sleeman. Please call 860-214-5344 if you want to arrange. I got to big bottles of home brewed beer for the taker :-)

I have room for two - janickimike@yahoo.com

Edited by author 05-06-2008 09:40 AM
Sorry - filled up within hours.

I'm also looking for a ride down if anybody has any room. It is my first time and I'm predicting a finish time of around 2 hours. Please send me an email if you have room. Thanks. A_Childs@hotmail.com

I have my ride!!! Good Luck to everyone!!!

Need two runners to ride down.
jsalcius@cox.net

Edited by author 05-07-2008 01:45 PM
Need a ride down - target 1:30
cyktrussell at yahoo.com

What are your ideas on a training plan?
I've been doing a 3 week cycle of 1 = 40 minute 14% grind on treadmill, 2 = Find a 200M hill and run up and down it for 40 minutes and 3 = Find some other hill to run up-up-up. I'm a veteran of the mt goat series last year - so I realize that speed work, hill charges and other standard fair are fairly useless for the long grind. What are you guys/gals doing for specificity?
C-,

Car is full. Good luck to everyone.

Chris, I'm running normal outdoor miles 4 days, about 25 - 30 per week with some light hills, plus twice a week grinders at 13% on the TM. I did 68 mins Monday and 75 mins yesterday. I agree that speedwork seems somewhat pointless when I'll be lucky to hold a 14 or 15 minute pace. Currently training at 3.6MPH on the TM, and not expecting to increase my TM speed before the race. Running high 8 to low 9 pace outside. Looking forward to meeting some of you at the race.

Edited by author 05-08-2008 04:30 PM
Yup - I set the TM at 14% and go. See how long I can hold on at 5 mph then shift down to a pwr walk at 3.5

Hi! I'm looking for either a ride down or someone who might need a ride. I am anticipating about a 2hr finish based on previous half marathon times. Thanks!! Runningdietitian@hotmail.com

I agree that long treadmill hill slogs are a necessary evil for this race. But I wouldn't recommend much other hill running outside of that. I think the key is ability to be at high heart rates for a long time. Long tempo workouts are very important, and intervals are still recommended for building aerobic fitness, if not for increasing speed. I don't think it's that important that the hard workouts necessarily have to be running either. Heck, you're barely running during the race. I see it as an extreme aerobic fitness test.

My $0.02.

I wouldn't call my usual terrain very hilly. I think there is maybe 700 feet of vertical gain over a 14+ mile loop. My road running now is strictly for endurance. I'm less worried about my heart and lungs than my legs.

John B. - Have you done this race before? The first time I ran it, I was also more worried about my legs, but found that my legs were fine and that I was constantly red-lining my heart rate. I'm sure it's different for different people. Good luck!

Edited by author 05-14-2008 12:43 PM
jack, I am a first timer. Ideally I'd like to keep my HR under 170 through the half way point. Not sure if that is realistic or not. My hope would be to finish under 1:45 but I would ideally like to get it done faster. We'll see what happens on the 21st.

I'm looking for a ride down. My target time is around 1:30. Please email me at 09sck@williams.edu if you can help me out! Thanks!

Looking for a ride down, finishing around 2 h. jiclyman@comcast.net

Yes I am also looking for a ride down the mountain. If anyone is offering a ride up the mountain I'll take one of those too (just kidding). I will be runing up Wacussett Mt next week and also doing the Northfield trail run June 7, if anyone wants to meet up at any of those races. Lou@amorati.com

I was able to find a ride down thank!! Good Luck

Edited by author 05-18-2008 08:17 PM
Looking for a ride down. Hoping for about 2 hours.....my first time so not too sure. aquintal@cox.net

Looking to give 2 rides down. I'm expecting to run a fairly quick time.

I Would really appreciate a ride down. Hope to do around 2:15. [Based on my last two M.W.Races] kmcburney@twcny.rr.com