The BNP on the Rocks as the Anti-Europeans Scrap Among Themselves

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ON ISLAM: "WE SHALL COME TO POWER ON THIS ISSUE ALONE", SAYS NICK GRIFFIN, THE LEADER OF THE BNP.
BEREFT OF ANY CONSTRUCTIVE POLICIES, GRIFFIN RELIES ENTIRELY ON ISLAMOPHOBIA.
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europeanPerson was signed in when posted  149
27-09-2008 11:35 GMT
The BNP's Jewish councillor for Epping, Patricia Richardson has boasted that "My uncles fought against Mosley's fascist Union Movement". I wonder if they were 43 Group, 62 Group or Yellow Star Movement? In the BNP's 'Londoner' May 2008 London Assembly and Mayoral elections leaflet Richardson expressed her anti-Muslim views. Several BNP members resigned over her anti-Mosley stance and promotion by the party leadership.
Ben WaterhousePerson was signed in when posted  150
01-10-2008 10:51 GMT
Obviously a pro-Zionist BNP will attract Zionist support, "friend of my friend, enemy of my enemy" springs to mind...
Robert EdwardsPerson was signed in when posted  151
02-10-2008 12:27 GMT
I have a copy of Griffin's Rune magazine, published before he ousted Tyndall, in which he includes an interview with the late John Creasey who was a long-standing Mosley supporter. Later, Griffin was to ask me how he was keeping (he had died a few years previous) and how he liked Creasey and thought him "a wonderful chap".
This latest anti-Mosley position, adopted by the BNP's party leadership, is just another example of the Griffinite lack of consistency and how they will now do anything in order to ingratiate themselves with the leaders of Britain's Jewish community. Anything for a vote, no matter the cost to truth and loyalty.
The fools do not realise that having someone like Richardson within their ranks does not convince anyone that Jewish people will now engage in a love affair with the BNP.
They are not only hypocrites but also the worst kind of humbug.
europeanPerson was signed in when posted  152
03-11-2008 13:04 GMT
From the horse's mouth: "We in the BNP support the rights of the State of Israel". - Nick Griffin
What are supposed British patriots doing supporting the brutal Zionist State built on the blood of oppressed native Palestinian Arabs, who had their country of Palestine stolen from them by Zionist terror gangs? There are even a few Jews who are anti-Zionist such as Neturei Karta, Jews Against Zionism and Jews for Justice for the Palestinians, who say Jews should be loyal to the countries in which they live, including Britain. Unfortunately, they are a tiny fringe minority. 40,000 'British' Jews recently rallied in Trafalgar Square to pledge their allegiance to Israel.
There are prominent BNP members such as Richard Edmonds and Derek Beackon who oppose Zionism but they are marginalised.
Robert EdwardsPerson was signed in when posted  153
03-11-2008 14:27 GMT
Thanks for that, European.
I have been asked recently by one BNP member why do I always look for what divides instead of what should unite us.
There is the answer in your Griffin quote. Total, unprincipled opportunism.
Ben WaterhousePerson was signed in when posted  154
04-11-2008 10:46 GMT
I see there is an interesting bust(er) up between the BNP and UKIP over a proposed electoral alliance. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7706857.stm
Robert EdwardsPerson was signed in when posted  155
04-11-2008 13:29 GMT
Griffin and Farage? So desperate for power they will try anything.
From the same mould, they hate their mirror images and are both in denial regarding their essential racism. Tweedle-dum and Tweedle-dee trying to herd together on the same patch.
Didn't Farange once refer to 'nig-nogs'? And Griffin's anti-Muslim rhetoric is just a thinly disguised all-out attack upon brown people.
europeanPerson was signed in when posted  156
19-11-2008 12:26 GMT
The BNP's entire membership list of 13,500 individuals has been posted online which includes police officers, teachers, prison officers, trade unionists, children and serving soldiers. Griffin called it "A disgracefull act of treachery by former members". The BNP cannot be trusted to keep members details confidential. BNP 'Security' is non-existent. The BNP is a laughing stock and the Government, Searchlies and the Far-Left are having a field day. Female BNP members have received late night threatening phone calls. Griffin is to blame by allowing so many members access to the list. He was reported as saying he "welcomed the publicity" and that it showed BNP members were "not skinhead oiks"! It proves he doesn't care about the welfare of his members and should be forced to resign.
Robert EdwardsPerson was signed in when posted  157
19-11-2008 14:06 GMT
Now you know why the mailing list of European Action is known only to me and that is how it will remain. Neither will we have 'dissidents' or 'rebels'. Together into the future, one and all.
We reject open membership precisely for the reasons that the BNP's latest 'security' disaster reveal. Glad to see you are NOT a member of the BNP ... but a true European.
Interestingly, the name of Simon Thurlow appears on the BNP membership list. He always insisted he was never a member. Why all this denial?
Perhaps he can explain on this forum.
Peter KendallPerson was signed in when posted  158
19-11-2008 14:52 GMT
The BNP damages any meaningful argument and their activities help the Communists to tighten their grip on political thought, consequently further damaging democracy in Britain. They are the individuals that help to maintain the untrue myths of Cable Street and demonstrate the crudeness regretably to be found in the British population. Of course we should have nothing to do with them. My message here does not in any way support or seek to justify their rude behaviour. However, the latest scandal shows a deeper more sinister attribute to be found in modern Britain. How can people be thrown out of their jobs simply because they joined a political organisation? How can the authorities bang on about so-called Racism when Trevor Phillips continually moans about having too many Europeans on BBC Television? When a BBC announcer can be dismissed by making a telephone call to a taxi firm, requesting a 'white' driver for her daughter? What possible credence can be placed in Parliament that admits former IRA terrorists while banning a stupid race organistion? Recently, Police officers have been allowed to remain in the ranks despite their having criminal convictions. Of course that is an undesirable state of affairs, but how can the authorities ban membership of political parties when they open doors to police with past convictions (i.e former criminals)? If traditional freedoms were ever restored to the British people, e.g freedom of speech, there would be no chance for the BNP to prosper. Evil is best routed by destroying its roots. Restore democratic debate in Britain and finish the likes of the BNP by giving the British people genuine representation!
Robert EdwardsPerson was signed in when posted  159
19-11-2008 15:40 GMT
I take your point concerning police officers. Personally, I think we have the worst police force in Europe and corruption pervades it from the top down to the bottom. Look at that rotter, Ian Blair. He should have stood trial for the murder of De Mendezes in Stockwell Underground Station.
But then why would a police officer want to join the BNP when it is proscribed to members of the force? I was discharged from the British Army many years ago for my memberships of both Mosley's Union Movement and the Anglo-Rhodesia Society. Considering the climate of tension at the time, I can honestly understand that decision. The zealotry of youth!
Ever since then, I have been an enemy of the state.
Police officers should ideally be apolitical. What would a 'BNP policeman' do if he is compromised at a BNP demo where rival factions confront each other. He should not take sides ... but his political comrades will expect something else of him.
It is all very well talking of injustice and freedom of speech but I do not think that should apply to the police ... nor the judiciary ... nor to the Civil Service. These are sensitive areas where strictest impartiality is expected.
Imagine a BNP judge (as daft as it sounds) presiding over a case concerning racial discrimination. You can forget a fair trial.
Oh, yes, it works the other way round too with communist or other far-Left judges. The answer is a complete proscription from all political groups.
The leaking of this list could have a positive side to it.
Peter KendallPerson was signed in when posted  160
20-11-2008 10:49 GMT
I also take your point about vital national organisations being barred from radical infiltration. Of course there is a line of reality to be drawn between national security and freedom. However, we seem to have lost the plot: politicians have never ever been held in lower regard. How can we proscribe 'dodgy' organisations when the Prime Minister thinks nothing of standing up in public to sing The Red Flag and when politicians sing the same anthem folowing nationalisation of Northern Rock? Things have not changed since the 1930s when Mosley had wider vision than most: Westminster is still inundated by tired old men and there are still institutions against Britain's interest, and sinister forces that protect these dark forces, making certain that our lips remain sealed. The protocols are total nonsense and don't ever trying to argue! Reds under the beds? don't ever say there were, and never even suggest that they caused untold damage to Britain. Those who protest against excessive immigration egged on by a Government who merely want statistics from the Immigration Authorities can find no support in the main political parties. These could not care less about the young honest family surrounded by drug dealers, pimps and gangs ruled by knives and guns - that's why the likes of the BNP grow like cancers, playing on peoples' fears and prejudices. Give us true Parliamentary democracy and the likes of Griffin will be blinded by the light or reasonable truth. Mosley's words still ring true today - you get out of bed in the morning and see politicians of all parties sitting together, arms around each others' shoulders - good old pals! Never mind the children who have to face twenty languages at school or the aliens waiting to entice them into drugs or sexual misuse.
Never mind the PM who sings the anthem of the most inhuman regime ever - who murdered 20 million of its own people. Britain mother of the free - I don't think so any more.
Robert EdwardsPerson was signed in when posted  161
20-11-2008 11:23 GMT
Well put, Peter. I agree with you entirely. We continue with the Mosley message, which is light years in advance of the reactionary BNP, for the reasons you point out so lucidly here.
europeanPerson was signed in when posted  162
21-11-2008 16:54 GMT
Griffin blames the 2007 rebels for the list leak, yet donations made in 2008 were on the list so it cannot be the same 2007 list they used to send out a bulletin attacking Griffin's leadership. The rebels on their 'Enough is Enough Nick-Voice for Change' site deny that they were responsible for the leak. Griffin claims he reported the leak to his local Police in Powys, Wales yet they deny any such thing. Members of the public with no connections to the BNP have had their cars firebombed. What has Griffin got to hide?
Robert EdwardsPerson was signed in when posted  163
21-11-2008 17:44 GMT
The plot thickens ...
europeanPerson was signed in when posted  164
08-12-2008 12:37 GMT
According to comments made on the North West Nationalists blog the two Nottinghamshire BNP rebels who were arrested were released without charge, so it could be a BNP inspired excuse for a police trawl. Another theory put forward by the Final Conflict blog and at least one national newspaper is that MI5 Agents in the party leaked the list. Whether true or not it all benefits Griffin in his court case against the rebels.
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