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Robert Edwards
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26-07-2008 17:43 GMT
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It is obvious this reptile was inspired by the BNP's odious anti-Muslim propaganda. I wonder how many more that Messrs Griffin, Darby and Kemp will spawn before a lot of innocent people are murdered. Then they will have blood on their hands as if they had actually planted the bombs. Terrorism comes in all shades and forms.
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26-07-2008 14:24 GMT
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A BNP supporter has been imprisoned for planning a 'race war' against Muslims. When Police raided Martyn Gilleard's flat in Goole, Yorkshire they found nail bombs, paedophile child pornography and BNP literature. Gilleard also attended a BNP demonstration in Glasgow. Is this the type of sick creature the BNP attracts?
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24-07-2008 10:28 GMT
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I wonder how long it will be before Griffin visits Israel in solidarity with their repression of the indigenous Palestinian Arab Muslims and Christians, like Gianfranco Fini of the Italian National Alliance who gutted the former Movimento Sociale Italiano of real patriots?
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22-07-2008 20:55 GMT
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I was not aware that he did. Even so, nothing is set in stone.
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22-07-2008 19:36 GMT
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Can you tell us then why Thiriart, who you admire, saw Turkey within a Europe from Reykjavik to Vladivostok?
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22-07-2008 19:02 GMT
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I doubt that Rustem is a practicing Muslim. Who would have that reptile in his mosque? The Grey Wolves were supporters of Kemal Ataturk who created a secular Turkish state in the 1930s and did away with the veil and the fez. He forced Turks to adopt Roman script as opposed to the old script. So, basically, it was anti-Islamic. The BNP wants to blame most of our problems on Muslims and Islam. If Rustem gave his support to an Islamic party in Turkey then that would be another matter with Griffin giving him the boot, of course. Turkey is part of Central Asia and not Europe.
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22-07-2008 18:23 GMT
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Luc Michel and the Party based on Thiriart's ideas PCN-NCP would have Turkey as part of the European state.
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22-07-2008 05:25 GMT
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The BNP has a coucillor of Turkish Cypriot Muslim descent Lawrence Rustem. I wonder how that squares with their anti-Islamic agenda? In an interview with the Turkish press he gave his support to the Turkish National Action Party/Grey Wolves.
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14-07-2008 19:39 GMT
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Which places them in roughly the same position as the Hungarians- essentially Caucasians speaking a Uralic language.
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14-07-2008 19:10 GMT
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You're right about the Arabs, however most Turks from the country we now know as Turkey are Caucasian also, but their language is Ural-Altaic in origin, yes central-Asian.
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14-07-2008 01:51 GMT
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Turkey belongs to Central Asia, historically and culturally.
The Arabs, by the way, are mainly Caucasian of the sub-group Mediterranean Proper. Very similar to the Portuguese, for example.
There is no such thing as a 'clash of civilisations' and you are right to point out the commercial links with Turkey.
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13-07-2008 23:26 GMT
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An excellent appraisal Robert of the relationship between Europe and the Middle -east. Could I raise the issue of Turkey, a Muslim country but far from Saudi Arabia politically, socially and culturally. A strong and forceful army stands sentinel on a fiercely secular constitution, a fact silly liberal Europeans recoil from, but they would argue they stand at the gates while these liberals criticise from the comfort of the drawing room. Are they European, Middle-eastern or Eurasian?. I ask because I'm not sure they know. Many people, usually the better educated, in western Turkey, particularly Istanbul are of European appearance (not that I think that's important), but crucially hold European values. Others you can meet from the east are the opposite. Despite the historical folk European image of the marauding Turk, more recent history points to the critical role Turkey followed as a conduit through which flowed European goods, particularly German goods to the Balkans and the Middle-east. They were the interface between Europe and the Middle-east that functioned well until the first of the resource wars and the Great European civil war.
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27-06-2008 10:23 GMT
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The BNP website proclaims: ELECTION SHOCK - BNP BEATS LABOUR.
Another headline for the same election result could read: ELECTION SHOCK - GREEN PARTY BEATS BNP.
So where is the victory?
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05-06-2008 12:51 GMT
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Edited by author 05-06-2008 12:51
Surprise, surprise ... a BNP councillor attacking the Muslim call to prayer. Have they nothing better to do than to stir up religious hatred for political purposes? Doesn't the BNP's obsession with Islamophobia distract them from the real issues facing the British people? At least, on this occasion, the BNP councillor is not objecting to the existence of a mosque but acknowledges it as a house of God. That is progess. I agree that the call to prayer is no more of an annoyance than church bells clanging away on a Sunday or special holidays. People get used to it as they will get use to the Muslim call to prayer. Where I live on the South East coast, we have large aircraft flying over our town, landing at Manston. Busybodies formed an 'action group' to oppose the noise of these aircraft. What age do they think they live in? Aircraft are part of the modern world and we have to co-exist. I got use to aircraft flying over my town since my schoolboy days in the ATC at RAF Manston. Now, during the Summer we get regular firework displays from the harbour at around 10.00pm. They are noisy and can interrupt an evening. But, for heaven's sake, they are part of life down here ... and we just get use to it. Coming back to the Muslim call to prayer at a local mosque, I am sure the sound of 'Allah Akbar' will be melodiously in tune and relatively short. A lot shorter than the engines of large aircraft or half an hour of fireworkers exploding nearby. Religious tolerance is the mark of an enlightened man.
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05-06-2008 09:31 GMT
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03-06-2008 13:40 GMT
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It's interesting to note that the British National Front stands for a 'European Family of Nations'and cultural and sporting links between European nations, although like the BNP they are opposed to the Union of Europe. The NF's immigration policy is to stop all non-European immigration and to control white immigration. (This was Union Movement immigration policy as stated in the article 'Why Europe Needs Common Government' in 'Action' July 1st 1961). The NF polled 34,840 votes in five constituencies in the London Assembly elections in May and saved two deposits by polling more than 5% beating UKIP, Left List and the English Democrats, their best election results for 30 years, which was higher than the BNP percentage in the mayoral contest for the same constituencies (Bexley and Bromley, Greenwich and Lewisham, Ealing and Hillingdon, Hounslow, Richmond and Kingston, City and East). The England First Party also beat the BNP in Burnley, Lancashire with 12.5% to the BNP's 7.4%. The NF's anti-Zionist policy is a refreshing change to the BNP, which is now regarded as the most pro-Israel party in Britain. I bet if Union Movement was still in existence it would have polled double the votes of the BNP and NF combined with its full programme of constructive policies. The current political climate and mood of the public is favourable to a new pro-European, anti-immigration party entering the fray.
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