The BNP on the Rocks as the Anti-Europeans Scrap Among Themselves

Edited by author 01-03-2009 22:30
This is another example of how much the BNP is out of date with its misbegotten ideas of good old British imperialist patriotism. Well, Britain no longer rules the waves and this is no longer a land of hope and glory. Will they ever come to terms with these facts?
The more militant Protestant Ulsterman also still holds a very anachronistic idea of loyalty dear to his heart ... but it has always been conditional. Today, both North and South look towards the European Union for representation and a federal Ireland looks more realistic as a consequence. The extremists from both sides of what was once a divide need to rethink their positions within Europe and thereby discover reconciliation that way.
If the BNP thinks it has gained a foothold in Northern Ireland then it would not be one that is at all permanent. After all, its policy consists exclusively of Muslim-bashing. It has nothing else to offer.
I think Northern Ireland has already had a belly-full of religion hatred over the years ... which is, in this case, barely concealed racial hatred.
It was T. P. O'Connor who described Mosley as "the greatest friend of Ireland". That was over the Black and Tan outrages.

Thank you, Robert. The intention of the BNP to become more active in Northern Ireland is a real concern. While they may represent a joke party on the mainland UK, I believe they will be a real poisonous presence in Northern Irish politics. In recent years, far right groups have been associated with Loyalist Paramilitaries and criminal thugs in the region. We live in a time when people are at last talking together and trying to work for a better future. The last thing the people of Northern Ireland , Southern Ireland and the UK need, is a bunch of flag waving loudmouths, with ideas that date from the mid-seventies. Some of these people would learn something by reading about Mosley and the Union Movement, in regard to the Irish situation.

Welcome, David, to this QuickTopic forum. Your appraisal of the BNP is spot on.

First of all I would like to say hello to all those working for and supporting European Action. The concept of Europe a Nation is one I have always supported. What a contrast to the narrow nationalism of the BNP.
They are indeed a disgrace. As has been pointed out, their website consists of little Englanders, moaning endlessly about political correctness or lifting stories from the tabloid press, which usually consist of attacks on Muslims.
They have no vision, no policies (of any worth) and thankfully, no chance of ever forming a government.

Seems it is still activated.

So now we all know ... the BNP is the enemy.

In an online article 'Israel's Gaza Affair' Griffin disgracefully writes that Britain should ignore the oppressed Palestinians plight and supports the illegal bandit state's right to exist. What a turnaround from his incarnation as a NF Political Soildier when he supported the Palestinian fight for freedom and Black Muslim seperatists. In an interview with Israeli newspaper 'Ma'ariv' Griffin says he would welcome millions of Jewish immigrants to Britain. What a traitor and sell out! Some BNP members posted comments supporting the indigenous Palestinians but most supported Israel.

I remind you of Nick Griffin's words in IDENTITY (edited by John Bean): "We shall come to power on this issue alone" ... meaning opposition to Islam.
The few Muslims that are quoted here are a disgrace to their community, just as much as those Palestinians who have worked for the Israelis.
It looks very much like fictional propaganda on the part of the BNP. When you consider that former South African 'spooks' run the site, that is not surprising. Who is this BNP supporter on the website?
Does this 'prominent Muslim community leader', quoted in FREEDOM, realise that the BNP would have him out of this country at the first opportunity?
The quote from OM is apposite and reflects the position of European Action.

The January issue of the BNP's 'Freedom' newspaper features a prominent article on a Muslim community Leader in Basildon, Essex who has urged Muslims to vote BNP, because of their opposition to the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. A BNP supporter on the website also commented that a Pakistani Muslim shopkeeper where he lives told him he supported the BNP because "immigration is too high", and that his children who were born here wear England football shirts. What a pity such positive reports are outnumbered by the BNP leadership's hysterical anti-Islamic propoganda. Mosley wrote that "None of the great religions preach subversion of the State and therefore they have no conflict with our Movement." The BNP would do well to heed his words.

The real trgedy of this whoole sordid affair is that Britain needs alternative political parties to voice opinions about the genuine issues of immigration. A person does not have to be in the least zenophobic to think that immigration is out of control or that entitlement to social welfare (housing, payment of benefits)is not correctly balanced. Move over, BNP. Go and make way for alternative, civilised response to the unholy mess that our politicians are making! Hooligans will not change the course of history in Britain - new parties with genuine agenda will

Absolutely right, Ben. It is this constant whinging and claimed white victimhood that reduces everything to negativity. What else can you expect from a party with no constructive policies at all?

Edited by author 02-01-2009 23:53
The BNP don't know who they are anymore. The calibre of leadership is painful to behold, the website is a dog's breakfast, full of whinging articles about how one set or another of the poor Brits are done by.

No vision, no policies except lets bash the muzzies of course, that will go down well at White Hart Lane

Edited by author 02-01-2009 16:44
It is a smokescreen for their real anti-Muslim agenda. The BNP wants to remove the religion completely from these shores. The fact is, Islam is now established here and nothing the BNP says can change that. Do you really believe the Muslim community would take any notice of these unpleasant bigots?
Then there is the question of what constitutes the 'Muslim world'. This is composed of many strands of Islam in many different countries. You can only deal with governments.
Who is responsible for the conflict in the world? Not the Muslims. It is the foreign policy of the United States that is responsible for mass murder in the Middle East, along with Israel and their war crimes over sixty years.
The BNP has got everything wrong again. It is not the British government per se that interferes with the internal affairs of other countries. It is the United States that does this with British soldiers being supplied as mercenaries for the Yanks. The British have always been the junior partners.
The idea of a BNP government is too absurd to contemplate. Look at the people who compose its 'top table'. They could not run a knocking shop never mind running the country.
I believe that the BNP has peaked and is now in terminal decline. It is a throw-back to Empire Loyalism.

"A BNP Government would seek an understanding with the Muslim world and not conflict. The basis of this understanding would be that they agree to keep their surplus populations to themselves and the British government would agree to never again interfere in the internal affairs of their nations. It is a pact which is the only way to guarantee peace". -BNP website. Is this progress? The BNP should stop attacking Islam per se.

Theories, rumours, speculation ... none of it is evidence and is of no value in a court.
Police always have to act on a complaint (I write from personal experience of this) but if there is no charge as a consequence then there is no stain upon the subject's character. certainly, nothing to answer.
The only way we are going to find out who leaked the list is when someone grasses on a colleague.
As it stands, Sadie Graham has been done a favour by the Griffin gang. They will not be able to try that stunt again without some real, hard evidence.
Sadie Graham is no longer regarded by the police as a suspect ... as a result.