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bill sargent  1974
07-03-2009 08:37 PM ET (US)
Tonight's high tide 10:31 PM will be 4.8 feet. PM high tides will continue to rise to 4.9 feet just after the full moon on July 7, then drop slowly to below 4.5 feet on July 13th. By then we should be able to take a little breather until the 5 foot tides start to return on July 17th.

Another good sea level rise book is "Against the Tide" by the NY Times science editor Cornelia Dean who lives on the Vineyard.
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bill sargent  1973
07-03-2009 02:40 PM ET (US)
I want to thank all of you, but especially CWR, for educating me about how frustrating the plover regs are.

TONIGHT: The new director of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Susan Avery is speaking about Sea level Rise at th MBL's Friday Evening Lecture Series at 8PM at the Lille Auditorium. Some of the top sea level researchers should be there. Get there early since it is difficult to get parking and about 600 of the country's leading scientists attend these meetings which are free and open to the public. There will also be a podcast of this talk. Trust all is calm on the beach today.
bill sargent  1972
07-02-2009 06:40 PM ET (US)
Hi CWR, Thank you very much! Yes, getting older suc...! Actually I had my first back operation when were filming the NOVA film about Pleasant Bay many, many moons ago. Perhaps OH and Nan have taught us guys something. Thanks again and have a great 4th of July! Pilkey's book really is good reading. Best, Bill.
cw rice  1971
07-02-2009 05:58 PM ET (US)
Bill S. Now you know what upset me about the story. On your back a good position to watch fireworks from. Do hope your better soon. It not good to get old.
bill sargent  1970
07-02-2009 05:36 PM ET (US)
I just read the article and it ticks me off because it seems like kicking someone when they are down. Perhaps this forum can refrain from some such.
bill sargent  1969
07-02-2009 05:00 PM ET (US)
I'm not the demonstrator type, and have been flat on my back trying to nurse a possible herniated disc. I do think all the camps were going to be undermined by the ten days of high course tides with or without a storm. You might want to read Orrin Pilkey's classic book, "The Beaches Are Moving."
C. W. Rice  1968
07-02-2009 04:30 PM ET (US)
Interesting story over at Cape Cod Today
http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/index.ph...e-in-chatha?blog=53

The story is about a bunch of demonstrators that chose today to espouse their points of view about global warming (climate change). I wonder if Bill S was with them as the story mentions some of the demonstrators coming from tony Beverly Farms (Bill S'.s backyard).

At the same time the pictures show them trampling over beach grass and so forth, or as I would say they were pimping off of the current state of affairs that has caused the removal of four camps. Shameless to say the least.

Last time I checked nor'easters were a weather event, and not truly tied to sea level rise or global warming low and high pressure systems (weather makers) have been around since the when earth first had an atmosphere.
C. W. Rice  1967
07-02-2009 03:28 PM ET (US)
From Orleans P&B RE: Nauset Spit

Current Conditions in regards to Orleans Resident Off Road Vehicle Travel of Nauset Spit 7/2/09

We continue to have two unfledged piping plover chicks in the 1/3 mile that was open for Off Road Vehicles.

As soon as these chicks fledge we will be able to open 4/10 of a mile to ORV travel.

Additional openings would not occur until after 7/25/09.

Pedestrians and boaters will still be able to access this area but are required to stay out of symbolically fenced habitat areas.

Reminder that NO DOGS are allowed on Nauset Spit from April 15th – September 15th.
        
For updated information please visit www.town.orleans.ma.us .
C. W. Rice  1966
07-02-2009 03:27 PM ET (US)
From Orleans P&B RE: South Beach, Orleans & North Beach, Chatham

Current conditions in regards to Off Road Vehicle travel South of the Nauset Beach Parking Lot
7/2/09

Nauset Beach ORV trails south of the Nauset Beach Parking lot continue to be closed to Off Road Vehicle Travel.

Currently there are four active piping plover broods with a total of 11 unfledged piping plover chicks in the Pochet Washover area.

We lost one unhatched piping plover nest in the Washover area which could re-nest causing further closures beyond the estimated open date.

We could reopen between July 15th & 20th depending on when the piping plover chicks fledge or if we have a re-nest of the lost piping plover nest that was in the Pochet Washover area.

We cannot predict the full length of the closure as storms, weather, and predators can affect whether eggs actually hatch or piping plover chicks survive after they hatch.

The Town’s bathing beach at Nauset Beach remains open and unaffected by the piping plover situation that affects the Off Road Vehicle Trails south of the Nauset Beach Parking lot. Pedestrians can still walk, fish, surf, and swim or sunbathe in the area South of the Nauset Beach Parking Lot providing they stay out of symbolically fenced Piping Plover Habitat.

There is plenty of parking available in the 900 car parking lot and vehicles with current 2009 Off Road Vehicle stickers will be permitted to park in the main parking lot free of charge during the period that the Off Road Vehicle Trail remains closed.

For updated information please visit www.town.orleans.ma.us .
bill sargent  1965
07-02-2009 12:27 PM ET (US)
Condolences to all who lost so much.
C. W. Rice  1964
07-02-2009 08:05 AM ET (US)
Thanks Bill H. for the update, is truly a sad occasion in many ways It must be a scary period on the beach with the intense thunder & lighting storms crossing over the beach and over Pleasant Bay.

Our condolences go out to the love ones of the waterman that was killed by a lighting strike in Little Pleasant Bay yesterday afternoon.

I hope Mary and you will be able to get a fair summer out of the beach and who knows maybe the fates will change and allow for use into the next seasons.
Bill Hammatt  1963
07-02-2009 06:01 AM ET (US)
The Thayer camp was dismantled and put in a couple of dumpsters yesterday. I came off the beach just before the rain but the Winkler crew was caught in it. Not sure if the barge got off last night. They are only transporting two full containers at a time. Trouble getting the barge close enough to load and unload.
The windows were out of the Kelley camp last night so it should be in a container sometime today. I expect we won't see the crane heading off the beach before Tuesday. Good news there is that perhaps more of the plovers will be gone by then so less chance of hurting them.
Shure would like to see a few weeks of SW winds and sun!
Tom O.  1962
07-01-2009 01:28 PM ET (US)
C.W. Larry,, I guess the key to when we can drive the beach again will be what happens with this #5 nest...as for driveablity, we know the beach can build up very fast, in a matter of a few days with small waves and southerly winds..Let's all hope for the best, including the PP's.
Larry S.  1961
07-01-2009 01:08 PM ET (US)
Thanks, CW. I thought those pictures looked old.

Curious how the rest of the beach fared as a result of the storm. Other east facing baaches were pretty beaten up by it. Once the ORV's re-open, I'm wondering how driveable the beach will be.
C. W. Rice  1960
07-01-2009 12:49 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 07-01-2009 12:53 PM
Larry, the date is correct, as being 2008 pictures taken May 14th. Town Hall is still standing for example. There are still dunes and grass around Hammatt's Hanger.

The CCT has had that photo gallery up for over a year. Newspaper copy editors, love using file photos etc. to make a current story more attractive. Along with old quotes and other facts drizzled into a new story like EVOO to make the story more slick.
Tim Wood  1959
07-01-2009 12:46 PM ET (US)
Don't usually kick the competition but that CCT photo album is from last year. The only photo from yesterday is the one with the story.
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