Edited by author 11-25-2009 10:56 AM
/m5402 Last week I found out by calling home office for PM that she had a new PMR only because PMR was working.
 This week I thought I better go see PM since my assignment ended last week.
Thought she might let me see if I had any access to her computer..... but no.
Told her I hoped I still had access and she said I didn't need most of it.

Found out yesterday when I worked at OIC office that she requested eAccess changes on me about a week ago and just got them approved.
 
Now she is my approver and with the new eAccess changes I would have to go through her to have my approver changed.

All I can do at this point to get out from under her thumb is to hope for another assignment or wait on a PM position to apply for.

PM at OIC office wants to help me. Keep me in the know.

When I first took the new assignment home office PM laughed and said"do you even have an inkling of how to order stamps ?"
Subscribers check your email for the conclusion.

Ha, like ordering stamps is some big difficult mystery.

Most everything is a secret in my home office.
First it does tick me off but now,especially since my assignment, all this secrecy in my home office is somewhat humorous.
Glad I got out long enough to speak with other PMs.
I'm thankful for all the posters on this forum too.

What kind of things is she taking away your access for?

/m5406 COARS,EDW,WebEES and a few others.

What bothered me more was the fact that she requested my access be removed before she even knew an exact date that my assignment would be over.

What bothered me the most was that she changed my approver from an MPOO to herself thereby cutting off my contact with any MPOO.

OK, Webees you can get along without. EDW, interesting, but you can get along without it. But COARS, that's kind of stupid of her. What if you get an Express that has to be forwarded? Don't tell me, let me guess: She still writes all the changes down that come in on the white cards. Fine, unless your office never sees the white card. I don't think I much care for your PM.

Edited by author 11-25-2009 07:05 PM
I even specifically mentioned COARS to her and she said I have no right to that access.
She keeps an old COARS printout.
Heck, the information is more protected on the computer with me having access to it than just floating around the office on a printout.
Oh yes,your right,we do wright all the forwards we catch in an old book too:)
Guess I am still supposed to call her at home or guess at it like I have in the past with an Express to be forwarded.

I'll have to explore around in eAccess some more and talk with OIC office PM.
OIC office PM wants me to keep my COARS access for his office.
There has got to be a solution to this.

I know its got to be frustrating. You are trying to learn and someone has deemed it their point to not let you do that.
And most of the stuff is pretty easy once you get on, but certainly the unknown and magnitude of what to learn if you did get an office and never looked at this stuff would be daunting.
Hang in there. And a followup conversation with MPOO wouldn't be wrong if you kept it to the point that you want an office (keeping away from home office PM and her attitude with eAccess)
Wouldn't mention that, unless MPOO brought that up.

Good day with new OIC. She even brought up that she noticed a problem between old PM and myself. I just said we have a communication problem, didn't give details. She said she noticed a definite look and a huff yesterday when she (the new OIC) asked me my opinion of getting a particular clerk to help us out. Her question was that she didn't think we needed her and then she asked what I thought. I said no, thought we could handle the work. I missed the look, but the OIC said she picked up a definite attitude. She then added that some people run their offices by telling everyone their the boss (referring to my PM) . . . FWD, I would say your home office PM is that way too.
Its a defiency with those types, and nothing you can fix.
Your energy is best spent for the benefit of you. Might sound selfish but when it gets down to it, if you want an office thats the only way you'll get it . . . via YOU. I've got a feeling with the way things are going, you'll have things go your way.

For at least 5 months I did get to learn plenty and that cannot be taken away from me.
I have notes to look back on too.
Yes Southernclerk I needed to get familiar with the unknown and I thanked my MPOO for giving me that chance.
I proved I could do the assignment and do it well.
I did email the MPOO. Do you really think it's necessary to call too ?
I don't want to be a pest. A PM did call and leave a message with the MPOO on my behalf.
Even though the OIC office is over an hour away it would be in my best interest to continue working there until I get another assignment or an office. Yes I would have to work much harder and travel too but for now that works because the PM does not have a PMR and he is not threatened by my learning. In fact he encourages it. The office is a lot more demanding than my home office and makes so much more (6x).I can't figure out how in the world both offices are considered equal.

Looks promising with your new OIC Southernclerk.
Your right, your PM does seem a lot like mine. Controlling.
Do you know how long you will have the OIC ?

mmmmmmm. Turkey.

Edited by author 11-26-2009 01:37 PM
I only suggested calling MPOO - in the sense of maybe a few weeks from now. Kind of a followup . . . hey I'm interested. Maybe the others on the board can give their thoughts.

Offices are broke down even further. So your office and the other are probably categorized much differently although the level is the same.
We're in a L18 that the next level up would be a L20.(A, B, C, etc) But the next town is L18 and I think PM said he was on the bottom of the L18's. Its been a while that one of my old PM's explained this to me, as he was speculating the growth of our office so he could make a career decision. We didn't grow fast enough and he moved on to a L20.

OIC said it could be a few months to a year. She did advise if an office came up that she wanted, she would try to get it. I must admit I appreciated her honesty, and hey, don't blame her.

Edited by author 11-26-2009 03:10 PM
Well, I would always call and email. I spent most of my 6 years as a PMR as an OIC in some office. I was the "go to" person for all L15s and under needing an OIC while I was a PMR.

The crap I have endured has been while I was a career clerk. But, when the job that I wanted and worked for all those years came open, this same POOM said all that did not count and went with an 18 year clerk with 1 OIC.

When I left my last & home OIC office, I left an office where I'd built up business and had relationships with most everyone, we were ranked consistently as a top performer in the state. They lost all that when I left, that office has not been a top performer since. This does not reflect upon the new PM well, but really was not the new PMs fault. And, I am not saying it was all because of me but....I built relationships in a small office; new PM came from larger offices where that was not done. Business fell off, in general, but alot of that business was lost to FedEx ground...because the relationship was not there.

The new PM dots the "i" and crosses the "t" which is what they want. She is making a good PM, but just not for that office and situation financially. But, they were not concerned with finances, just towing the line.

 Frankly, I am better educated (more so than the POOM, even) and had more outside management experience (more so than the majority of postal managers).I made a point of learning the postal way of thing though and how things work, such as FWD has. I just was not a career postal person for enough years. It has left me bitter, and, coupled with the extremely poor office environment I was left to return to as a career clerk, it is why I am taking the early out and getting out. I guess I am saying this as a warning, which we have discussed before via email, that no matter how much you know, what your background, what your experience level is, careers come first regardless.

All that said, all the OIC experience will be good experience, even if you do not use it in the postal service. [I will not be using what I learned in the postal environment, but I will be using it in the future.]

Go for it, sounds like your PM is not an advocate for you, so you will do it yourself. In the end, whether you ever get an office or not, you will at least know that you did everything possible to advance within the system and get your own office.

Just my 2 cents worth.............

I'm so sorry that it came to that for you PMR. But certainly can understand. Is it getting hard now to go in? I think you said you have till end of year?

What you speak of is a great percentage of why I will not and have not attempted to move up into a PM position (since I hired in as career and didn't have to go through that extra challenge of getting to career position). The games are played even moreso with the PM's now (very evident with what is going on with our area right now)

I am fortunate that my hubby is my reminder to be satisfied with the clerk position. Age and desire to keep my sanity are big factors for me. And in turn life is easier for my hubby if I am happy with my job.
But certainly cannot fault anyone in wanting to move up, improve the paycheck and/or reach goals they set for themselves.

PMR I do wish the best for you. Sometimes the best move, is exactly what you are doing. One door closes, another should open.

Dec 31st, I am out. Five more weeks! New years eve will have a new meaning for us this year! And, yes, my husband will be much happier to have a happy wife at home. At least, my family will not have to listen to the perils of the hellhole (my affectionate name for my office).

I do believe everything happens for a reason and turns out the way God intended. Just this week, I've had that realization twice regarding the job.

For the first time in nearly two years, I am looking forward to the some challenges and opportunities....not to mention, freedom from the oppressive situation and environment!

My before USPS job was with a Fortune 500 company (15 yrs). Great pay and enjoyed the actual work. But work environment was noisy and not the best physically for me(I took a cut to come to USPS). And yes, humans are human, we had the same type of people there too . . . we had jerks and we had good people.
I did a mid-life career change and took the clerk job I have now. My friends and family commented within the first few weeks of leaving the other company I appeared so notably happier. And in retrospect, it was the best thing I did for myself. I really didn't realize how much the stress factor was getting to me, because ALOT OF PEOPLE commented how happy
I seemed after I left the other company.
And in retrospect, I was uneasy about my decision. But wow, you are correct, everything happens for a reason.
Still must admit I wasn't good with my two week notice. After a week, I just wasn't engaged with my work. Glad to hear the count down is going well with you.