WV, /m21339, I got mine yesterday, and it does not have the pay schedule, but it does have the EMA chart.. No cell service?? for real?? No way I could live without my cell phone.. lol

For real, PT, no cell service. Area has been promising service since I came here several years ago. I get nervous sometimes when I am out on the route, very desolate and no service for the whole 90 miles. Is one of the reasons I broke down and bought the 08 jeep. Not that that guarantees anything but so far so good. If I was any good at math I would be able to figure out my new salary but alas, I stink at math. The only math I know is the multiplication table for 44cents. lol. I didn't realize until my pay stub came that I was due a step increase. And no letter came about that either. I think I usually get one of those "action" letters. I got my employee survey yesterday, I am debating whether to do it or not. I have always done it before.

For those of you serving AUx routes::::

Heres a warning you should heed!!!! Take a look around your office...if you have substandard routes....or lots of H or J routes...you better take a hard look at what would happen should they suddenly decide to reabsorb your Auxies!!!!!

What route is available for you to go back to if you have chosen the 6 day assignment? Are there openings on the matrix for you to take to make up some lost days? Just because they havent said they are lookin at the cost savings of keeping an Aux..DOES NOT mean they arent!!! Just cause your a SENIOR SUB...does not mean you will get your choice of things...if they take away the choice of the aux....ThINK ABOUT IT!!

SUPERsub that applies to any route absorbed not only auxes. If every route has a sub ,the sub from the absorbed route is displaced there is no bumping in subs

   Surprise

   The Postal Service isnt going to pay a deacent wage in the near future, here below 40 hour FSS routes are told no building back up, your stuck with what you have aux routes gone, only area you will get rebuilt from, so find a bigger route or suck it up!

/m21343 a Aux sub SHOULD NEVER not have a position to fall back to tho...they are not excessed..they just get whats left...and they are SUPPOSED to leave something for them to fall back too..thats my point..I want them aux subs to STOP AND LOOK at what that would be!!!

IM sure they wont get every aux route in every office..but they are going to get the ones they can...I live in PODUNK USA...and they got it here...is yours next? and NO!! i dont personally run one...im just trying to make people THINK about what will happen if yours is one they get!

2009 Christmas OT dates have been released

http://ruralupdates.blogspot.com/2009/11/2...ures-for-rural.html

Looking for a little info. regarding "sub 40" routes and the upcoming Mail Count in 2010. This is what I have been told:

After the next Mail Count your route evaluates to let's say 31 hours.

You will be paid 40H pay "up to" the end of the Guarantee period(end of October 2010).

After that- Your pay will revert back to "31 hour" pay until the next Guarantee, or Mail Count.

Looking for some "clarification" on this scenario or anything people may be able to help me with on this.

Thanks:)

/21347 I'm curious about that as well. I've always been told a regular carrier must be paid 40 hrs a week regardless of how substandard his route becomes but the way the PO is going...We have a route in our office less than 40 now. Could they start combining & excessing regulars?

After the next union contract is in place the usps will be free to do as they please since the no lay off clause will be gone.It is much cheaper to pay a route a few hours overtime (K's) than have a bunch of substandard routes. So be prepared to see some of us off to new adventures.

This should answer your questions on the guarantees for sub standard routes and such..

http://www.divshare.com/direct/4203279-5b4.pdf

So.....if a 40H route lost enough deliveries an became a 39H, they would still receive 40H pay until the next Guarantee period or count........right ?

RIF, I wouldn't count my contracts before they are rejected. I know what I think will happen, as well as what I would like to see happen, and know there is a vast difference between the two. I don't believe the no layoff policy will be dropped, unless we get the right to strike, and I sure don't see that happening.

I believe whatever negotiated contract comes to the table, it is bound for arbitration. I only hope National and our law reps are a bit better prepared for the showdown this time. Making them get prepared is up to us.

The next convention will be too late to get issues addressed. The attention must be drawn beginning NOW!!!! Talking amongst ourselves is not going to get it done. We need to move our voices outside this small circle we have here, and be heard at higher levels. It can wait no longer.

Congressional involvement, contacting our bretheren in other unions for support, even discussions with local news reporting agencies to demonstrate how the USPS is systematically eroding our agreed upon compensation for a fair days work for a fair days pay by ignoring those agreements is now the only way we have to go.

Donnie and the gang aren't going to do us any good unless a great amount of pressure is applied to them, and the USPS. Since National won't even put a "contact us" tab on the website to even accept our input, we need to make those inputs through any means possible, and I think that is going to be through public outlets and forums.

We can all hope and pray for the best, or we can start WORKING to make it better. Which way do you think holds the best chance for success?

So PT2,

After reading about the "guarantee 40" for rural carriers, do I understand that my post was correct??

After any Mail Count with an evaluation of "less than" 40, we are guaranteed the 40 hour pay to the end of that guarantee period.

When the "next" guarantee period begins, whatever your route evaluation "under 40", this is what you will be paid.

I thought that there was a "minimum" hourly route evaluation for a regular route- 25 hours?? Something like that.

Sometimes reading between the lines PT can be difficult. Just wanted to make sure I understood the language correctly on this.

Thank you:)

Edited by author 11-08-2009 10:55 AM
  i was told that the days i earned when i was a sub would be on my first paycheck as a regular.i will receive my first check as a regular on november 13.will my 7 days i earned as a sub be on that check?

/m21354 i became regular
First of all, congratulations on making regular!
In 1992, when I went from a 79 back to a 78, I was paid for all my earned leave as a 79 on a regular paycheck. I then converted directly to a 71 (one pay period).I would have rather carried over the leave, but they paid it and I started earning leave from point zero.