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| JoeRR2
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11-07-2009 10:54 PM ET (US)
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RIF, I wouldn't count my contracts before they are rejected. I know what I think will happen, as well as what I would like to see happen, and know there is a vast difference between the two. I don't believe the no layoff policy will be dropped, unless we get the right to strike, and I sure don't see that happening.
I believe whatever negotiated contract comes to the table, it is bound for arbitration. I only hope National and our law reps are a bit better prepared for the showdown this time. Making them get prepared is up to us.
The next convention will be too late to get issues addressed. The attention must be drawn beginning NOW!!!! Talking amongst ourselves is not going to get it done. We need to move our voices outside this small circle we have here, and be heard at higher levels. It can wait no longer.
Congressional involvement, contacting our bretheren in other unions for support, even discussions with local news reporting agencies to demonstrate how the USPS is systematically eroding our agreed upon compensation for a fair days work for a fair days pay by ignoring those agreements is now the only way we have to go.
Donnie and the gang aren't going to do us any good unless a great amount of pressure is applied to them, and the USPS. Since National won't even put a "contact us" tab on the website to even accept our input, we need to make those inputs through any means possible, and I think that is going to be through public outlets and forums.
We can all hope and pray for the best, or we can start WORKING to make it better. Which way do you think holds the best chance for success? | | |
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| rcaforever
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11-07-2009 07:34 PM ET (US)
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So.....if a 40H route lost enough deliveries an became a 39H, they would still receive 40H pay until the next Guarantee period or count........right ?
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11-07-2009 04:53 PM ET (US)
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| RIF
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11-07-2009 03:20 PM ET (US)
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After the next union contract is in place the usps will be free to do as they please since the no lay off clause will be gone.It is much cheaper to pay a route a few hours overtime (K's) than have a bunch of substandard routes. So be prepared to see some of us off to new adventures.
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| maildoll
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11-07-2009 09:50 AM ET (US)
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/21347 I'm curious about that as well. I've always been told a regular carrier must be paid 40 hrs a week regardless of how substandard his route becomes but the way the PO is going...We have a route in our office less than 40 now. Could they start combining & excessing regulars?
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| NorEaster
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11-07-2009 07:19 AM ET (US)
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Looking for a little info. regarding "sub 40" routes and the upcoming Mail Count in 2010. This is what I have been told:
After the next Mail Count your route evaluates to let's say 31 hours.
You will be paid 40H pay "up to" the end of the Guarantee period(end of October 2010).
After that- Your pay will revert back to "31 hour" pay until the next Guarantee, or Mail Count.
Looking for some "clarification" on this scenario or anything people may be able to help me with on this.
Thanks:)
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| Postaltexan2
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11-06-2009 05:57 PM ET (US)
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| SUPERsub
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11-06-2009 12:06 AM ET (US)
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/m21343 a Aux sub SHOULD NEVER not have a position to fall back to tho...they are not excessed..they just get whats left...and they are SUPPOSED to leave something for them to fall back too..thats my point..I want them aux subs to STOP AND LOOK at what that would be!!! IM sure they wont get every aux route in every office..but they are going to get the ones they can...I live in PODUNK USA...and they got it here...is yours next? and NO!! i dont personally run one...im just trying to make people THINK about what will happen if yours is one they get!
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| Va Carrier
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11-05-2009 07:41 PM ET (US)
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Surprise
The Postal Service isnt going to pay a deacent wage in the near future, here below 40 hour FSS routes are told no building back up, your stuck with what you have aux routes gone, only area you will get rebuilt from, so find a bigger route or suck it up!
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11-05-2009 06:36 PM ET (US)
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SUPERsub that applies to any route absorbed not only auxes. If every route has a sub ,the sub from the absorbed route is displaced there is no bumping in subs
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11-05-2009 01:27 PM ET (US)
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For those of you serving AUx routes::::
Heres a warning you should heed!!!! Take a look around your office...if you have substandard routes....or lots of H or J routes...you better take a hard look at what would happen should they suddenly decide to reabsorb your Auxies!!!!!
What route is available for you to go back to if you have chosen the 6 day assignment? Are there openings on the matrix for you to take to make up some lost days? Just because they havent said they are lookin at the cost savings of keeping an Aux..DOES NOT mean they arent!!! Just cause your a SENIOR SUB...does not mean you will get your choice of things...if they take away the choice of the aux....ThINK ABOUT IT!!
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| WVruralgirl
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11-04-2009 09:36 PM ET (US)
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For real, PT, no cell service. Area has been promising service since I came here several years ago. I get nervous sometimes when I am out on the route, very desolate and no service for the whole 90 miles. Is one of the reasons I broke down and bought the 08 jeep. Not that that guarantees anything but so far so good. If I was any good at math I would be able to figure out my new salary but alas, I stink at math. The only math I know is the multiplication table for 44cents. lol. I didn't realize until my pay stub came that I was due a step increase. And no letter came about that either. I think I usually get one of those "action" letters. I got my employee survey yesterday, I am debating whether to do it or not. I have always done it before.
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| Postaltexan2
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11-04-2009 05:37 PM ET (US)
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WV, /m21339, I got mine yesterday, and it does not have the pay schedule, but it does have the EMA chart.. No cell service?? for real?? No way I could live without my cell phone.. lol |
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11-04-2009 04:44 PM ET (US)
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Hey, I just wanted to tell you that it is Wed. and I still don't have my November union magazine, I projected that I would get it today. When you live as far in the sticks as I do, I feel lucky to get any mail. We don't even have cell phone service arouond here. Maybe the magazine will get here this week. Is the new pay schedule in there?
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11-04-2009 11:01 AM ET (US)
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/m21336 knew it was something like that..but the paper i got says 1.2% LMAO..it was put out by they union....soooo....I had to look after you said 1.5%.... LOL mano..we will just rely on you for the numbers data...you a good man to have around!!
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11-04-2009 10:23 AM ET (US)
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1) If we have DPS flat sorters
2) If the Postal Service goes to a 5 day work week.
3) If work hours are reduced anywhere near what the Postal Service estimates.
Will the Postal Service have the money to pay the remaining carriers a good wage?
If the above is true.
1) Should we try to get the surviving carriers a good wage in 2010 contract negotiations.
or
2) Should we try to get training for carriers with less seniority so that they may have a chance to find other jobs?
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