JASNM, /m22802, Not sure about that situation, you could work it from the full day of relief angle and see where it goes

I don't know why, but it is there in black and white. PO 603 section 142.11. I was there all ready to go, not my fault. (<:

I don't understand why you would get EMA if you didn't go out on your route? The EMA is for using your own car. I can see the 8 hours pay, and if you started delivery of your mail, you should get EMA, but not if you didn't go out on the route.

reference M-38 526.624.....A couple of years ago, I copied and sent the information to the NC State steward.I never received any reply. If anyone learns anything, I would like to know.

Back to the storms....If your sub cannot finish the route due to road conditions, returns to the office and cases the mail not delivered, does the regular get any compensation for delivering that mail the next day?

???? And, where did that info come from?

very cold I got act of god pay here in Texas for a hurricane. We were told to come to work in the middle of the storm. We were over 100 miles from it but were getting the winds and storms from it. My husband drove me to work he wouldn't let me go alone so did some of the other carrier's spouses to. It was really bad. It was rediculous (misspelled) they made us go because when we got there we lost electricity after being there 30 minutes and hardly no flashlights to be had in a level 22 office that processes mail haha. they finally told us to go home. They said we would get paid for our time. I told the supervisor we would get paid for the day plus ema she said she didn't know about that. well guess what we did(only the ones that came in got ema). it ended up all the employees got paid except rcas i believe unless they came in and then they only got 2 hours. That was act of God pay it is on the back of leave slips look for it. You can also get leave to donate blood.(a lot of people don't know about that either) just read the back of a leave slip

WVruralgirl, /m22797, This from the ELM

519.215 Employees Prevented From Reporting
Employees scheduled to report who are prevented from reporting or, who
after reporting, are prevented from working by an act of God may be
excused as follows:
a. Full-time and part-time regular employees receive administrative leave
to cover their scheduled tour of duty not to exceed 8 hours.
b. Part-time flexible employees receive administrative leave, subject to
the 8-hour limitation, for their scheduled workhours, as provided in
519.214c.

and this for early dismissal

519.214 Early Dismissal Due to Acts of God
When employees are dismissed from duty before the normal completion of
their duty due to an act of God, the following applies:
a. Full-time employees are entitled to credit for hours worked plus
enough administrative leave to complete their tour of duty. This
combination of work and leave is not to exceed 8 hours in any one day.

Please do not use your leave. These storms have shut down the USPS in some places, and you can be sure that clerks, city carriers, and PM's, and of course district personnel will be collecting on their administrative leave. Do not let them take advantage of you over this..

Not so much as directly to you WVgirl, but to all.

the posting on boxholders , that is a management tracking system and nothing more they are allowed to track your mail whenever how ever they want to . it doesnt appear anywhere else because its only to be used by management when and if they chose to . if they ask you to have any part of it then they should pay you for your time

PT, The way I read the references is that you have to report to the post office in order to get the Administrative leave and the EMA. Could be why the poster, Very Cold, did not get the pay and had to take annual. I was there, however, so I hope there won't be a problem. Esp;ecially since I am using it as an R day (or X or whatever we call it). I am not scared to fight, it has been a long time, though. Maybe I had better sharpen my claws as all involved are women and there might be a cat fight. lol

very cold, /m22795, Then you need to be going over the SS's head, because there is clear guidance in the USPS ELM, and the clause is still there and covers ALL employees of the USPS.

This type of thing is exactly why I started this site. There are PM's, POOM's, Sups out there dictating their own rules and disregarding the rules that come out of USPS Headquarter's..

POOM's and PMs do NOT make the rules, they must follow them just like the rest of us. Next time fight for it and make them follow the guidelines the USPS set forth..

I have HAD to take vacation time for the 3 storms that prevented me from getting to the office. I was told that the mpoo told postmaster that there is no longer an "act of God" clause. I called ss and he said that it would be like pulling teeth to get a grievance won

/m22792 I was the customer, In our office the clerks do the weighing etc. It worked for me.
I have had my Prius on a 60 mile K rural, rural route as a sub for three years now. It is holding up well, with the only issue so far is the low front bumper here in the Great White North. Tape, aluminum panels and screws are holding it together. Does great in the snow, only a few days where it wasn't the right vehicle. It will hold about the contents of a pipe filled to the top bar but you are glad to get some parcels out so you can see. I only removed the console and put a angled block on the throttle pedal to make it route ready. You just have to realize it is not a snow plow, about 6" of heavy wet snow is the max on unplowed roads. Have not found many using a FEH on the route. The few reports I saw were positive. It sounds like the tranny on normal Escapes may not be up to route duty.

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/22688 Older not Wiser. A blank check is not the same thing as stamps on a 13 oz parcel. Yes, you can accept a check for postage of a 13 oz or over parcel. This is the one exception to the Aviation Security rules. Rural carriers can not accept a parcel with stamps as postage, but can accept a parcel with no postage affixed and the customer providing payment. The one thing that would stop me from taking the parcel would be the "blank check" they left. I would only take it if the check was filled out properly. What would happen if you lost the check somehow? Or the postage was for more than they thought it was and they accuse you of ripping them off? There is no way I would fill out someone's check for them.

We have 2 carriers in our office that drive a prius on the route!they are small cars but they are both small men!they rave about the gas savings.We also have a carrier that drives a hybrid escape he converted the pedals himself.I once contacted a company that advertises in the back of our union mag and he said he could supply a ford escape hybrid to me with right hand drive,but i never followed thru!I drive an escape for a route vehicle but not a big fan of fords