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JoeRR2Person was signed in when posted  22817
02-09-2010 05:54 PM ET (US)
WVC, we can request anything, but if in conjunction with the filing and investigation of a grievance, management is SUPPOSED to honor the request for info from the filing stew. AS it is in email format, I would request it in writing beforehand, as emails are easily deleted, and state exactly those grounds in the requesting letter, it isn't that we don't trust them, it is because we KNOW them!! IF pm or sup says they hve to wait for permission, tell them to PRINT it and seal it in an envelop to prevent it from getting lost, but get the steward on it. ASAP
nellutgen  22818
02-09-2010 06:24 PM ET (US)
o boy... honesty is really all I want!!! Why did the stew ask the other reg from my office and I whether we wanted to grieve the rdwl, or drop it if they train the subs... only to find the she is scheduled to work her next 3 J days????? Seems to me, if they agreed to train subs for other routes, there would be no need for someone to work their J day in 3 weeks..... But I am just a rural carrier, what do I know?
nellutgen  22819
02-09-2010 06:27 PM ET (US)
/m22084 cause that is what the provision calls for?????
it's called a contract, follow it!!!
JoeRR2Person was signed in when posted  22820
02-09-2010 06:31 PM ET (US)
Nell, did you reference the right post??
^*^*^Person was signed in when posted  22821
02-09-2010 06:32 PM ET (US)
JoeRR2Person was signed in when posted  22822
02-09-2010 06:34 PM ET (US)
Grieve it Nell, and in your letter to the stew that will go forward with the grievance to step 2, the letter is supposed to go with the file to the next level
nellutgen  22823
02-09-2010 06:48 PM ET (US)
thank management type.. Just furious. We got moved from our office into this one to save money. Only to find they have RCAs who don't wanna work sitting at home, while they pay regulars OT. And then the stew is dishonest about the whole thing. I don't think all regulars should be treated differently....
^*^*^Person was signed in when posted  22824
02-09-2010 06:52 PM ET (US)
That is one of my pet peeves, RCA's sitting home accumulating seniority and refusing to work any but their "special" days and sometimes not even those. It's just not right.
nellutgen  22825
02-09-2010 09:13 PM ET (US)
/m22824 That's what it is. One was told when he was hired, he would only have to work Mondays. Another has a full time job during the week and only works on Saturdays. Another would perfer working as little as he can get by with.
  Then you have the girl that would learn every single route if she could. But I think she is tired of the BS too. It's been coming to a head in this office for some time, I guess.

  Joe, I got nothing in writing, just the stew asked if we wanted to grieve or drop it if they agreed to hire and train existing RCAs on other routes. All we really wanted is the contract followed. I'm in the hole on sick leave and a few relief days here and there would be nice for X days. So, we agree, just follow the contract, then we see the stew scheduled for her next 3 j days OT. Um, how about train the subs, and let us "catch up" on relief days worked too! The carriers in the other zip code (we have carriers from 3 zip codes).. I don't think they were told anything and both are on the RDWL.
shafted  22826
02-09-2010 09:32 PM ET (US)
You have a dirty stew. Seen it here in my office too. Delightful huh?
shafted  22827
02-09-2010 09:35 PM ET (US)
Geez, almost forgot to add the best part. Ours is also a state officer. How disgusting is that?
NorEasterPerson was signed in when posted  22828
02-09-2010 10:02 PM ET (US)
20 Hours left. COB- 6:00PM 2/10/2010. District still "undecided".

Will we Party, or will we Cry??:)

Pray for us.
yo-yo  22829
02-09-2010 10:18 PM ET (US)
what do you do when management cut your route that was a 48k to a 43k and build everybody up to a46k and they do this right before count. Can something be do about this sice it;s so close to mailcount. Someone please wait in on this .
NorEasterPerson was signed in when posted  22830
02-09-2010 10:37 PM ET (US)
yo-yo,

It's kind of hard for me to picture your scenario. As far as I know, a 47-48K is "pending interim adjustment". I'd count your blessings on this one.

Or better still yo-yo I'll let you decide which scenario, yours or mine, you'd like to take:

My office after last years count ended up with "one" route that went "sub 40". We had a 30 hour aux. route that we all thought was to be "held" for FSS. Not the case. Broke the Aux. route up and gave that sub 40 route extra boxes to make him a 43K, and the largest route in the office. He is the junior carrier in a 16 route office. The other route that was given extra boxes went to the second largest route in the office. This route was the next to last "junior carrier" in the office. We have multiple "H" routes in our office now with No Aux for Build Back.

48K, 46K, 43K yo-yo?? 46H, 43H, 41H yo-yo?? Take your pick!!

19 1/2 hours left. And with all of those H routes?? Nobody wants to be counted!!:)
just wondering  22831
02-09-2010 10:59 PM ET (US)
we received our opt in forms Feb. 2 but they were not round dated, any chance we could get out of the count ??
....  22832
02-10-2010 01:29 AM ET (US)
nell , so you agreed to drop it , if they followed the contract, is the steward who is working on the rdwl , and would they be the one working. if not then you still have another grievance when this occurs. or the least the person who should of worked does. and i would make sure the steward knows this too. the steward should not be violating the contract ,you need to get ahold of the area or state steward, and clue them in on the sweetheart deals the local steward is making
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