Today's little tidbit of information, taken from analysis of contract changes....

This one deals with "Borrowing" subs from outside units to cover a route. Sometimes why something was put in the contract is only reflected in these analysis docs, and then forgotten.

Article 30.2.D.4. indicates that if management has exhausted the matrix and attempted to use a qualified RCA in the delivery unit in order to cover a route, "...the Employer may designate any other leave replacement prior to selecting a regular rural carrier to work in accordance with Article 8 Section 5." The other leave replacements referred to would be
unqualified substitutes, RCAs, or RCRs in the delivery unit; TRCs in the delivery unit; or qualified or unqualified substitutes, RCAs, RCRs, or TRCs in other delivery units within the office. A leave replacement may not be borrowed from another office until all available regular rural carriers (on and off the relief day work list) have been assigned to work the relief day.


Have fun with this one!

This is what you sign when you accept the aux on a 6 day assignment..you tell me that they couldnt use that to justify the fact..that your relinquished your right to serve as a primary on any OTHer route..I am not saying THEY WILL...im saying...do you really trust your ASSOCIATION to fight it out for you? Im not sure I would.

OPTION B
Or I
(date) ’
91 , elect to
serve Auxi\iery rural route #
(name of carrier)
SIX (6) DAYS each week. I
understand all rights to be a leave replacement (primary, second or third) for any
other regular route in the office will be relinquished.
Additionally, I acknowledge that I may relinquish

hey joe..a PTF trumps an RCA everytime...!!!

TRcs...your right...but a PTF is a different colored horse!

something to think about also!!! In event of excess...regular carriers who are excessed can revert to PTF status..and really move and shake that releif day leave replacement consideration. IF they excessed enough regulars...it aint gonna matter if your senior sub or not...how many K routes does it take to warrant a PTF position? LOL!!! how many K routes left in your office? think about it!!!

Im not trying to be the profit of doom here...But that latest financial report, how many have read it? If you actually believe they aint coming with the hatchet...your nuts!! LMAO...

and NO ...i really dont expect anyone to sue the PO...I was thinking more along the lines of them going for the union...perhaps because they pay dues to a ASS that contradicts itself at every turn..once again a rebid is one thing...a bump is another.

Im not a junior sub..so I am not worried..Im not an AUX sub either ..so Im definately not worried.
The point I was trying to make...was this:
IF the only VACANT route for you to retreat TO is an H route...THAT is what you will get if you are an AUX sub.

The only situation in which that would NOT apply...is if your office has consolidations..and ROUTES went up for rebid.!!!

If all the other subs are sitting on nice cushy K routes..and your aux route is reabsorbed...there are still subs out there thinking they can BUMP the juniors off their primaries...cause they want a better route. IT DOES NOT WORK that way!!

Athough count does determine the amount of office time and streettime, departure time is still determined by your start time, which of course, is set by management.

Standard mail... the 3 day crap is just that, crap, because you cannot leave the mail without management approval. Dated mail being an exception.

I would like to see a settled grievance on someone winning that 3 day rule on standard mail.

The point in bringing up what it used to say about aux and sub, if before this would happen, if there is a trc or ptf, you are aware that they should go before you, and make sure your manager knows it.

Obviously it is more important to cut n paste quotes back n forth about things that management is going to do their way anyhow than to look at ways to prevent it from happening. IF you can be aware, you may be able to avoid a problem through communication with your manager, which is all that was recommended.

The final steps on consolidation are still up in the air, we haven't even seen the beginning of it. With that being said, removals and excessing quidance is right there with it. All it takes is an MOU, and all we THINK is right and proper is gone. When was the last time Management or NRLCA asked for your input on an MOU, like #21 for example?

their position, not their assignment

Re: RCA serving aux 6 days per week

In article 30 under "excess substitute, RCA, and RCR determination"

Here it deals with the issue of too many RCA's.

"the RCA with the shortest period of continuous service in their position in the office shall be terminated."

There were regulars at the state convention saying that they were scaring their subs against taking the Aux route 6 days a week by telling them that even though they were the senior RCA they would be laid off if they got rid of the aux route.

If you are the Junior sub then you should be worried....period. It doesn't matter if you're doing an Aux or not. That's what I was getting at. The only thing the RCA on an Aux loses is their matrix spots. That's a big deal if you get a lot of hours that way.

/m21506 SUPERsub
Who are they going to sue? The Post Office? I am sure that would fly. Either seniority works, or it does not. Seems to me that seniority is a key component in our contract and it appears to be a pretty simple process. You are either the next carrier in line or you are not. Retrieval rights are based on seniority as well. Last person hired is the first person gone; TRC's first and then RCA's by juniority. I don't wish it on anybody, but how would you design it to come down when the craft needs fewer folks? It is going to happen sooner than we like.

Edited by author 11-20-2009 12:11 AM
hmm..what happens if the AUx sub IS the junior RCA? BINGO bango..see ya!!!

some of us more senior subs...are smart enough to realize..you can make WAYY more money if you got good matrix pics..who gives a whooop about vacation days...that you might get to use..or might not? Not all aux subs are the most senior..

and that is a VIOLATION of their own CONTRACT...so I will wait to see that for myself...I dont see it happening that way...no matter what cliffy says. It specifically reads...NO BUMPING EVER!!! I would think any sub that was bumped as a result..would have ONE hell of a lawsuit...

Va Carrier,

Dreading the day we get FSS. We're on the "list", and as I have been told, all you need is a 30 day window before a Mail Count, for FSS to be implemented.

From your figures, you have a TON of mail compared to my office. Even on the heaviest of days, I will take (9) Trays of mail to my LLV. That is it, Letters and Flats combined.

If FSS does come for this 2010 count, I will be treading water at the 40-41H category:)

 Appreciate your input on the FSS issue Va Carrier. Doesn't seem to be a lot of people out there who are on line. Thanks.

Edited by author 11-19-2009 11:14 PM
Leaving Schedule or Dispatch Time: Is on your 4240 and is predetermined by your previous mail count. It is not determined by your local manager.

Standard Mail: per your contract, you have 3 days from office receipt to deliver....(if your manager is telling you standard mail has gotta go everyday, well, you can obey that order and you can also grieve it based on the contract and the 603). That, is your option. Standard mail is standard mail. Did the mailer pay 1st Class postage? Of course not, that's why it's standard mail.

Seems to me, casing all that standard mail until noon or 1pm might be considered delaying 1st and 2nd class mail being delivered on a regular timely basis.....

Every office is obviously different...but in our office, standard mail is not treated as 1st class mail (except special circumstances). And, it's important to deliver to customers on a consistent & timely basis, day by day.

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