I fished the back lake on saturday evening to sunday afternoon after 10 mins 8lb 4onz common then 12lb 6onz mirror then a nice 15lb common and a 5lb bream all from same spot. Swim 17 u ave a clear cast to the back of the island in 16. well worth ago, I had them all on the method with poridge around feeder and single 8mm bolie tuna or fishy smell with size 12 hook hair rig nothing on corn or pellet gd luck just go to far in coz under water snag that loves tackle lol