Edited by author 30-08-2007 06:55

Joe108

This was posted by myself on another board in response to a member who said they had difficulty understanding the School Lies exposure (/m20), so I clarified the concepts and have slightly edited it for posting here:

Anyway, as per your question, I appreciate that you find it hard to understand the latest School Lies exposure because it is rather complicated, at least with all the new information that has turned up. Basically the situation is like this; every Sai devotee has been taught from the beginning that Sai Baba was born on November 23rd 1926. Because Sai Baba is revered as an incarnation of God on earth, his birthday has premier status and it is the most-attended festival in his ashram drawing crowds of several million. The birthday is actually a holy day (being the "birthday" of "God" and consequently the lives of every devotee revolves around it. Here in the UK, I have already seen posters at street stores advertising the upcoming birthday festivals where they're all gearing up to celebrate it.

New information has turned up that strongly suggests that Sai Baba's real birthdate is Ocotber 4th, 1929. This idea was first mooted in 2002 with the discovery of Sai Baba's school record when he attended school at Bukkapatnam (a village opposite his home town of Puttaparthi). Several objections have been made against the authenticity of this school record by several people. However, even newer information (released for the first time on the Internet by yours truly) corroborate the 1929 birthdate as true and authentic, mainly by the production of Sai Baba's transfer certificate from the Kamalapuram school to the Bukkapatnam school, and also by the school record from his school at Uravakonda. Sai Baba's education was frequently disrupted because he was in the charge of his elder brother, a teacher, who was himself frequently transferred to work at different schools. So Sai Baba attended four schools in all - Puttaparthi, Kamalapuram, Bukkapatnam, Uravakonda.

Naturally I can't just post this evidence without checking out first, and so I did my own investigation by researching the "official biographies" (sloppy writing as they are) as well as the unofficial ones, and I have found that there are several great reasons for why the 1929 birthdate is the correct one. The objections against the 1929 birthdate have been thoroughly discounted as being unfeasible.

I appreciate that this issue is not as "exciting" as Sai Baba's homosexual paedophila and murders etc., but as I have been saying for a long time the Sai Exposé is multi-faceted and it is not always about sex. For example, my personal taste is to discover and comment on the Baba's philosophical and theological discrepancies. Originally my blog was meant for this purpose as well as to work out some of my own trauma processing, but it has not grown into a big tree where everything is discovered and reported. The importance of this School Lies issue was necessary because of the earlier Shirdi Lies exposé, where Sathya Sai Baba's claims to be the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba have been proven to be false using many new evidences and new information from Shirdi sources. That Shirdi Lies exposure already turned up the information that the "declaration" took place in 1943 instead of the official line of 1940. That's why the point behind the School Lies was to show how Sai Baba was in school in 1940 and thus could not have declared himself as Shirdi Sai reborn until 1943. As far as I am concerned it is a done deal; there is already a large body of evidence that proves that Sathya Sai's history is fraudulent and contrived, and there is much more to come. This is very powerful and I am encouraged when I think that the exposure of these issues will break the backbone of the Sai Organisation, at least philosophically.

Edited by author 24-10-2006 05:41
A Full Exposure of Sathya Sai Baba's date of birth and related issues and featuring never before released evidence of the Baba's school records. Complete re-evaluation of the facts in the light of new research that blows apart unquestioned and accepted histories related to the birth and school education of Sathyanarayana Raju aka Sathya Sai Baba.


A New Light - | Introduction | Bukkapatnam school record discussion | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1929 | Discussion of Sri Aurobindo's cryptic remark | Aurobindo hijacked by Sai colluders | Gerald Moreno's criticisms ridiculed |


A New Light 2 - | Criticisms continued | Inconsistent entries on Bukkapatnam record | Bukkapatnam record is not fraudulent | Apologetic explanations for 1929 birthdate | Passports are not evidence of true birthdates | Explanation for Bukkapatnam inconsistent entries | 8th Standard is equal to 'Form One' | Indian education dissimilar to Western education |


A New Light 3 - | Actual sequence of Raju's education different from 'official' sources | Seshama Raju's frequent job transfers | First-time release of Kamalapuram transfer record | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1929 (spelled out) | Transfer form filed after the fact | Raju transferred to Uravakonda | First-time release of Uravakonda school record | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1939 (later corrected year to 1929) | Existence of all three independent evidences confirms 1929 birthdate |


A New Light 4 - | Recap of topic | Recap of apologetic explanations | Facilitation of Raju's career prospects is laughable | Vijayamma Hemchand appears to confirm 1929 birthdate | Problematic 'Declaration' date resolved with 1929 birthdate | First November 23rd Birthday celebration in 1950 | Discussion in light of Shirdi Lies | 1926 and 1940 dates declared an impossibility | Kasturi's sloppy research | Consideration of correct 'Avatar' birthday | Decades of systematic deception | Conclusion |

No more arguments.

Sathya Sai Baba was born on

October 4th 1929.

Whatever way one looks at it, Sai Baba is internationally acknowledged as a homosexual predator with involvement in murders, financial scandals, grandiose self-importance and many other disturbing things. He has been the subject of numerous news paper articles and television documentaries that report on all of these things. Even academics are now beginning to sit up and take note because this is now in the 'mainstream' perception of Sai Baba.

It doesn't matter what devotees think and what they think of the controversy. We know very well how politics works; the slightest hint of dirt in someone's background is enough to discredit them. Nothing to do with his competency, he may have been very good at the job. Even apart from that, there were seveal political reasons why he could not have attained the position. One of them is that India is an up-and-coming superpower that is breaking new fields; the appointment of Tharoor - an Indian - would bring concerns about geopolitical nepotism.

As a political diplomat who was vying for a position that would have brought him international renown and which would have merited his attention on matters of delicate international issues, his openly declared connections to a disturbing religious leader would work against him at the very least.

No matter how much people may try to spin it, the fact remains is that for every 'positive' there is with Sai Baba, there are an equal amount (if not more) of 'negatives' too.

Thankfully some of us live in democratic countries that guarantee the right of Freedom of Speech. Similarly the Internet is largely uncensored and allows people a platform on which to make their views. As I said in a few messages back, the fact remains that Sai Baba is a public figure who has announced himself as being worthy of attention. Consequently he is going to get it whether he likes it or not, or whether his devotees like it or not. This goes for both positive and negative information.

People should learn to open their eyes. There are many sides to a story just as there are many sides to Sai Baba. It's about time people got used to the fact that Sai Baba is not liked and admired by everyone and that, no matter what, people are going to criticise him whether they know what they are talking about or not.

People should also learn to be intelligent. There is a vast amount of difference between blind critics and former devotees. The obvious advantage is that the latter group clearly know what they are talking about, having spent significant amounts of time in his following, visiting him, etc. It is upto people to exercise their discrimination in discerning the facts, and what we are doing is simply presenting the true facts as they are.

To repeat, people are just going to have to get used to the fact that not everyone will have a favourable view of Sai Baba and that no amount of yapping is going to convince them otherwise, which is especially true of former devotees. It is impossible to refute the claims of former devotees, they know what they are talking about. They have experiences, and they have stories to tell. Open your eyes and your ears. See and listen. And understand. Use your brains and think critically, don't accept blindly.

By the way, I was wrong! :-)

Kasturi's 'Sathyam Sivam Sundaram' (Volume 1) was not released in 1960.

It was, in fact, released on 23rd November 1961. :-)

This means that he had no less than three years to correct his text about the alleged scorpion bite, even after Puttaparthi Raju publicly denied the event of a scorpion bite in a discourse in 1958. Oh dearie me! :-)

And just for a laugh, here is the reference:

"Baba's Presence at Kampala was utilised by many for receiving Blessings and Counsel. The High Commissioner of India, Shri K.P.R. Singh, the Chief of Staff of the Uganda Army, General Idi Amin, the Minister of Defence, Mr. Onama, the Minister for Information and Broadcasting, Mr. Ojira, the Minister of Internal Affairs, Mr. Bataringaya, the Inspector of Police, Mr. Oryema, and other African leaders met Him at Dr. Patel's residence and obtained a glimpse of the Glory of Baba." - SSS Vol 3, 'The Awakening Continent'

Edited by author 14-10-2006 02:44
Contrary to what some devotees assert, Sathya Sai Baba did meet with Idi Amin during the former's one and only trip abroad to Africa in 1968. Amin later seized power in a bloody coup and is believed to have ordered the murder of an estimated 300,000 Ugandan citizens and expelling thousands of Asians (Indians) out of Uganda. That is, when he was not openly indulging in his cannibalistic habit of gorging on human headskins and raw brains which he had declared to be his favourite food!

Proof? They posed for a photo. :-)

In 1968, Amin was a Chief of Staff and had not yet seized power. He met Sathya Sai baba and posed for a photo along with two (or more) of his wives.

I need to find that book with the picture in it, just so I can scan it and put it on my blog. :-) It's not looking good, ya know! :-)

Here is the reference for Sai Baba's authorising Kasturi:

"He placed his hand on my shoulder. He stood facing me. I could see my image in those eyes. 'Have the wedding at Puttaparthi. Come and tell me whatever you need. And.... after retiring from the University, stay with me. You can write my Jiva Charithra, Biography,' He said. 'Me?' I ejaculated.
"'Yes I shall tell you whom to consult for details - parents, brothers, kinsmen, neighbours, teachers etc. I shall also help.'" - Loving God, p. 89. (Kasturi's own autobiography)

Here is the reference where Sai Baba stated in public that there was no scorpion bite:

"You might have heard some people say that I became Sai Baba when a scorpion stung me! Well, I challenge any one of you to get stung by scorpions and transform yourself into Sai Baba. No, the scorpion had nothing to do with it! In fact, there was no scorpion at all!" - 23 February 1958

And here is Kasturi dozily writing about the "scorpion bite" in the first volume of Sathyam Sivam Sundaram, published a mere two years later in 1960:

"On March 8th, 1940, the whole town was shocked to hear that a big black scorpion had stung Sathya. There is a belief current in Uravakonda and the surrounding country that no one will survive a snakebite or scorpion sting in the place, because of the many-hooded serpent stone that has given the name to the place. The rock looks as if a serpent has raised its head to strike its poison fangs and hence, the dread superstition has gained currency. It was about seven o'clock, at dusk, and Sathya leaped with a shriek, holding the right toe!"

In 1948, Puttaparthi Raju fully authorised Narayana Kasturi to write his biography. Raju specifically granted Kasturi exclusive access to himself, his parents, friends, kinsfolk, villagers and so on to garner material. Kasturi published the first volume of 'Sathyam Sivam Sundaram' in 1960, a full twelve years after the project was inaugurated.

Kasturi would doubtless have heard about the "scorpion bite" incident and may well have been exposed to the peoples' theories and speculations about how the scorpion bite caused Raju to become "Sai Baba".

Not to worry! In a public discourse in 1958, Raju confirmed that there was no scorpion at all, and even challenged people to be bitten by scorpions and become Sai Babas of their own.

That should clear up everything, right?

WRONG!

Two years later in 1960, Kasturi published the book that continues to mislead people into thinking that Puttaparthi Raju was bitten by a scorpion on the night of 4th March 1943, not 8th March 1940 as Kasturi couldn't even get his facts right on that one either. Sai Baba told his own sister that he was bitten by a socrpion, who wrote it down in her own diary.

Think about that one before you go to sleep tonight, dumbloons. :-) And check under your pillow for scorpions and spiders and snakes. We wouldn't want to start off another serpentine rumour, would we? ;-)

According to this, it was the United States of America that vetoed Shashi Tharoor for the job, ha ha ha ha ha ha. G Parthasarathy lets us know his opinion about that:

"Professional diplomats in South Block with years of experience of the UN had, from the very outset, warned that Tharoor's candidature was doomed to failure. The candidature was announced with no prior consultations with our permanent mission to the UN and without consultations with even a single permanent member of the UN Security Council."

Tharoor himself ran crying into the arms of Indian PM, Manmohan Singh while forgetting to inform people about his withdrawal. Ban Ki Moon (South Korean candidate) is due to be formally appointed this Friday (Friday 13th October 2006).

What Gerald Moreno cannot understand (or rather, cannot get into his thick head) is that since all of these people are dead (except for Raju the fraud), it is well nigh impossible to get at the truth and to interview all of them. What we are left with is a set of glaring contradictions and inconsistencies. I see no harm in highlighting all of these problems so that dumbloons like Moreno and De Witt can try and explain it all away, driving themselves up the wall in the process. :-)

You have to consider: why did "Sathya" Sai Baba tell his sister that he was bitten by a scorpion and then publicly deny years later? Why do all of the official biographies talk so much about a scorpion incident when there was no scorpion at all (according to Raju)? If there was no scorpion at all as Raju said in 1958, then why was it published in 'Sathyam Sivam Sundaram' in 1960??

[Text: "On March 8th, 1940, the whole town was shocked to hear that a big black scorpion had stung Sathya. There is a belief current in Uravakonda and the surrounding country that no one will survive a snakebite or scorpion sting in the place, because of the many-hooded serpent stone that has given the name to the place. The rock looks as if a serpent has raised its head to strike its poison fangs and hence, the dread superstition has gained currency. It was about seven o'clock, at dusk, and Sathya leaped with a shriek, holding the right toe!"]

Gerald Moreno is clueless. There is no use in asking for his opinion on these matters because he doesn't know. All he can do is avoid the issues, make ad-hominem attacks and twist himself into a conundrum.

"According to Narasimha's biography, Narasimha did not even know about Shirdi Sai Baba until 1936 Sanjay! It also states in his biography that VERY few people knew about Shirdi in the late 1930s. Even then, Narasimha had language barriers to deal with because he spoke only a little Marathi. So, unless one spoke Marathi, one was very unlikey to have heard about Shirdi Sai Baba at that time."

Yet again, this proves nothing. I have already mentioned that Narasimha Swamiji did not know about Shirdi Sai Baba, and that he became a devotee of Shirdi Baba after the latter's passing. Get with the program and know what people are saying before you spout off. The fact is irrelevant anyway; what does matter is that Narasimha Swami travelled widely around India personally meeting with the devotees of Shirdi Sai Baba who had personally met and experienced the miracles/knowledge/wisdom/love of the saint in order to compile his famous four-volume biography of Shirdi Sai as well as his three-volume compilation of devotee experiences. Not to mention countless other literatures and formulations of worship that were eventually for permanent use by the Shirdi Sansthan.

What are language barriers supposed to prove, if they even existed? The simple fact is that Narasimha Swamiji personally went around constructing temples and investigating people who made claims of reincarnation. Funnily enough, Narasimha Swami published his four-volume biography in 1956 and Puttaparthi Raju declared himself in 1943 (not 1940 as wacko hagiographers erroneously contended). Narasimha Swami apparently witnessed Raju materialising trinkets and claiming to be Shirdi Sai reborn after his declaration to be so. Still he was not impressed and didn't even bother mentioning Raju in his treatment of the subject. LOL.

He found time to mention a boy from Karur and a girl from Bangalore (whom he personally exposed as frauds) but had no time in thirteen years (1943-1956) to include fraud-boy Puttaparthi Raju in his magnum opus. Ha ha ha ha ha, that says it all doesn't it? :-)

Shashi Tharoor's nomination for the UN Secretary-General position has comprehensively failed. :-)

Despite his questionable devotion to Sathya Sai Baba, Tharoor's nomination has proven unsuccessful and this yet another occasion where the goons of Puttaparthi will tear out their hair and scream in frustration, having lost yet another opportunity to publicise and boast of their attainments as well as the expected pride and preening about the man from Kerala rising to a position of global power.

Politicians and rising stars take note: Sai Baba brings bad luck. The last great politician who was claimed to be in receipt of the Baba's blessings was a certain Mr. Gore in the year 2000. And we all know what happened there...

One must also consider Puttaparthi Raju's public lie about not being bitten by a scorpion as he stated in a public discourse. How likely is this when a scorpion bite was the most likely cause in a town (Uravakonda) that was known for it's poisonous snakes and scorpions?

Titter ye not, for Raju was in the bathroom when he was bitten and himself said that he was bitten by a scorpion, according to his own sister Venkamma.

Is this important, to be bitten or not by a scorpion? Maybe, maybe not, but we all know that Puttaparthi Raju is full of lies, lies, and more lies. :-)

Please remember that N. Kasturi, Puttaparthi Raju's authorised biographer, was personally charged with the task of investigating Raju's life details through interviews with Raju himself, his family, kinsmen, classmates, villages, and so on, with the full approval of Raju.

Kasturi was charged with this fantastic responsibility in July 1948, and the first part of Sathyam Sivam Sundaram was published in 1960. In the twelve years that it took to complete this project, Kasturi couldn't even get one fact right, namely that the declaration happened in 1943 and not 1940 as the biographies suggest. LOL!

Mind you, he didn't even get the date right either. Sai Baba was bitten by a scorpion on 8th March (1940) according to Kasturi, but he was actually bitten on the 4th March (1943) according to the facts. You may ask, and rightly so, what does it matter?

It matters because this is another example of Kasturi's poor research skills. Sai Baba was bitten by the scorpion on Sivaratri night of that year, which means Kasturi couldn't even be bothered to check the almanac and figure out which date was Sivaratri even if he did get the year wrong too! :-) Maybe he did if he thought it was 1940 but who cares, he is still wrong. :-)

Think about that. :-)

How could Sai Baba be bitten by a scorpion in 1940 and then declare himself as (Shirdi) Sai Baba a couple of months later, when he was attending school and worshipping a small picture of Shirdi Baba in 1941? How could no one in Puttaparthi know anything about Shirdi Sai Baba, when two of Raju's (Sathya Sai's) uncles were open devotees of Shirdi Baba, not to mention that Raju himself regularly attended Shirdi bhajans? Even when the host of these bhajans was personally trained by Narasimha Swamiji? Even his own classmates testify that he used to worship Shirdi Sai Baba, so how couldn't anyone know who he was?

Raju was such a small fry that he didn't even merit a place in Narasimha Swamiji's four-volume Shirdi epic, especially in the section where possible reincarnations are discussed. On the contrary, Narasimha Swamiji specifically discussed just two people, a boy from Karur and a girl from Bangalore, whom he personally exposed as frauds. Raju did not even make a mention, despite the book being first published well over a decade after their supposed meeting (Narasimha and Raju's). There is only a vague hint about materialisations that could have referred to anybody. :-)

And we know exactly why the year was changed from 1943 to 1940, don't we? :-)

Hmmmm... sounds like a new expose coming up. ;-)

Sai Baba the Liar told the media that he knew that he was Shirdi Sai Baba because the fact that only he knew and nobody else knew was proof of the fact, declaring it so in 1940, which we now know to be 1943.

However, he himself was actively worshipping Shirdi Sai Baba in 1941, attending bhajans and satsangs to a guru who apparently no one knew about, and correcting readings from the life-story of a saint who nobody knew about, not least having two uncles who were openly devotees of Shirdi Sai Baba. So much for only him knowing about Shirdi Sai Baba. He is a liar, plain and simple. :-)

If this is not devastating then I don't know what is! :-)

Rege Rebuffs Sai Baba

Notable Shirdi devotees like Justice M.B. Rege who were alive at the time Sathya Sai was actively promoting himself as the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai, never authenticated him as a reincarnation. Ditto for other Shirdi stalwarts such as B.V. Narasimha Swamiji.

The Shirdi snowball rolling down the hill gains increasing speed and momentum. :-)

A Full Exposure of Sathya Sai Baba's claims to be the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba (d. 1918). Complete re-evaluation of the facts in the light of new evidence that blows apart unquestioned and accepted histories in the hagiographic milieu of Puttaparthi.


Sai Baba's Shirdi LIES - | Introduction | Kasturi's storytelling | Shirdi Sai Baba unknown in Puttaparthi | Sathya Sai Baba interviewed declaring his identity with Shirdi Sai |


Sai Baba's Shirdi LIES 2 - | Sathyanarayana Raju worshipping Shirdi Sai in 1941 | Raju attending Shirdi Sai bhajan sessions | Puttaparthi villagers "trained" under Narasimha Swamiji | Raju's two uncles openly worshipping Shirdi Baba | Classmates testify Raju's worship of Shirdi Baba | A strong culture of Shirdi worship in Puttaparthi |


Sai Baba's Shirdi LIES 3 - | Raju bitten by a scorpion in 1940 | A turning-point in Raju's life | Sathya Sai Baba denies scorpion bite | Raju's sister confirms scorpion bite in 1943 | Raju's suffering and epileptic seizures | Raju taken for exorcisms | Raju affirms he is under Sai Baba's protection |


Sai Baba's Shirdi LIES 4 - | Raju's brother muses on Shirdi Sai possession | Ra. Ganapati muses further on possession | H.S. Dixit on Shirdi Sai's return after 8 years (or not) | Sathya Sai claims Dixit misreportage | Ganapati musing unacceptable due to self-serving convenience | Sathya Sai devotees' ignorance of Shirdi culture and practice | January 2006 punitive legal action |


Sai Baba's Shirdi LIES 5 - | Shocking discovery of Shirdi name misused | Raju's brother & sister claim Narasimha Swami visit | Brief description of Narasimha Swami's activities | Narayana Baba says Shirdi Baba not reincarnated | Brief recap of last four articles | Sathya Sai's empire foundations to crumble | Narasimha Swami on Shirdi succession | Narasimha Swami indicates Raju not a reincarnation | Narasimha Swami discusses Dixit's 8-year claim | Narasimha Swami regards posthumous Shirdi miracles as evidence of Shirdi Sai's ever-living presence | Narasimha Swami concludes no successor for Shirdi Sai Baba |

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