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| Jerry
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02-17-2009 02:17 AM ET (US)
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Its funny/sad reading all the postings about the 2010 games now that we are getting close to the event... Didn't we learn from the Montreal rip-off, promises of 250 million eventually costing over a billion and causing the government to legalise gambling to pay it off . Calgary was a real estate scam with Lougheed and his cronies owning Kananaskis. Salt Lake city was a pretty good example of the corruption of what at one time was a noble ideal, amateur atheletes competing for their countries. The Olympic industry is a well oiled machine that has run its scam pretty well the same way in all the cities that have hosted the games since the 60's . They get in bed with local developers and politicians who put togeather a bid and promise the moon to everyone , example " the atheletes village will be used for low income housing after the games" , promised in every city but never once materialised. "The Games will make money and leave a legacy" ....only if you use shady accounting practises like putting all the indirect spin offs (increased tourism ect ) on the profit side with exaggerated numbers and don't put all the indirect costs ( The sea to sky highway and security) on the debit side. Ask any city that has gone through this and is still paying The organisation behind the Olympics is brilliant at anticipating the reaction and opposition they will ecounter , after all they do it all the time but for the locals trying to stop them its a learning curve as they figure things out. Remember how they bought off Jim Green with the Woodwards building promises , if DERA and Mr Green hadn't endorsed the bid or if people had known what the real costs would be do you think the refferendum would have passed??? Are you still in favour Mr Green??? Is anyone? Remember the day we won the bid with all the boosters watching live at GM place waving little flags and jumping for joy , Since then the process has been tinkered with, re-arranged piece by piece until what we will be having doesn't resemble that bid proposal very much at all . The costs will be over 8 billion according to critics. Meanwhile the Olympic industry has moved on to it's next target/victim. leaving the people of Vancouver to deal with the consequences .Which with the state of the worlds economy will be enormous, they never figured on that possibility ........ It scares me when I see the snarl on John Furlongs face when a reporter asks a question that doesn't please him .The arrogance he displays when when he asks businesses and school's ( and thereby the cities populace) to change their daily lives to accomodate the Holy Games. I think if he had his way there would be fines and jail time for not showing proper Olympic spirit. I shudder to think of what they might dream up to "clean up the streets" for the games , in Mexico city they built a giant fence to hide the slums along the train line from the airport to downtown that's after killing close to 50 student protesters . The pattern is the same to various degrees in all the cities that have hosted the games . Speaking of which why was Whistler chosen , ???? so it could become a world calss ski resort and have lots of toursits visit DUH .....at least Kananaskis created a new destination . The Olympics would serve the province much better if they were to be held in the Okanagan . Think about it ... two great mountains , better snow, more reliable weather conditions, thousands of empty motel and hotel rooms that don't get used in the winter , Closer for all of BC and Alberta visitors ......the highway which was built for Expo is already there An area that would benefit from new facilities and exposure to the world tourist market. AND maybe the rest of BC wouldn't feel so left out and ripped off if they could see it benifit somewhere other than the lower mainland . after all they will be paying for it too. I guess it would have made too much sense to develope and promote a new winter destination instead of an already over crowded and over exposed one likeWhistler ........Anyway I am ranting now but thats the name of this section isn't it. Cheers and I sure hope it snows and that some whack job doesn't screw up the whole party with a simple encouraged rockslide on the Sea to Sky highway (whoops don't give em ideas)
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| Piss-Off Citizen
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02-19-2009 07:50 PM ET (US)
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Just the security for the two week event, works out to $225 for every man ,woman, and child in British Columbia.RCMP,and other parties to this, kept thier mouths shut on the original figure/farce brought fourth to the public.Maybe these groups who conspired to screw us ,should pay for thier sleezy attempt to decieve the tax payers of British Columbia?An independent criminal/civil investigation needs to take place in regards to all areas of the 2010 legacy/farce!Lawyers,federal government,current provincal government,all need to be looked at!!!!Legacy my ass!
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| B DeVenne
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02-19-2009 09:04 PM ET (US)
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Where are all the people who were out marching in support of the Olympics?? It seems everybody learned the same lesson too late. remember to call your mayor and tell him how you feel
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| hossein
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02-19-2009 11:16 PM ET (US)
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I add your page link on http://www.iranian-information.combecause I thinks we need to talk about all this corruption and what happening in BC, are human life became worst like this , homeless die, people displaced by government, for only 14 days game? I learn some things from Canadian government as Iranian after I land here do not trust the British regime.
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| hossein
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02-19-2009 11:32 PM ET (US)
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I thinks you are have right to know , in 1995 i made mistake as journalist and artist left Iran to Istanbul and US embassy visa me to move in west, in Los Angeles was every things fine, after some one told me go in Canada in best place in world, where i was be homeless, and include five times more in others city in Canada , now soon I am moving out from Victoria, but some things rung with canada, corruption is worst as Iran and democrcay or justice like Taliban's regime, most of y0u are may do not have information about Iran and why i lunch Iranian magazine, where in Iran we have free university.....but Iran is third country and canada? having nice tall building can not be pride , have happy people and healthy yes, when in Victoria canadian are stolen food and apple from grocery shop, they can not buy food starving not happy faces , where is the RCMP or justice corrupted all of them, canada is militarism regime justice do not go far as complain and more people became victems, then we complain about china or Iran before we look after own backyard,
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| Paul
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02-20-2009 10:16 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 02-20-2009 11:19 PM
It's just too damned bad that Salzburg, Austria or Pyeongchang, Korea didn't win the 2010 Olympic bid instead of Vancouver.
Vancouver may have "won", but it's very clear now we really lost. Almost $1 BILLION dollars just for the security buget aspect....what a sad and pathetic joke. And, the joke is on us.This our Legacy of Debt!
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| Teddyboy
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02-21-2009 05:15 AM ET (US)
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The Olympics is worth ANY cost. Think of the parents of all the atheletes, and their hopes and dreams are realized as their children are about to become Olympians. Oh, I know it's just an achievement, but for the athletes, and their parents, their coaches, their relatives, etc. they have elevated themselves to something they will all never forget in their lifetimes.
That is above and beyond the crass commercialism and what ever measurements and testing being done by the ones who really want the Olympics to occur.
This is a PERSONAL event for PEOPLE to feel GOOD about.
It occurs in the HEARTS and MINDS of humans, and THAT'S what's important here. If the powers that be want to spend billions and billions of dollars to make a difference to ordinary people, that is OK. There are many many ways they can take money from us, and will now and in the future. Anytime it makes good feelings in the hearts of people, I can support that.
Recently, the powers that be, picked the pockets of everyone in the FREE world, and will soon affect the jobs of all people, worldwide. Spending billions on the Olympics is small change compared to the trillions needed to 'BAIL OUT' the rich.
Let us take advantage of this opportunity to stage the 2010 games, and make them the best we can.
Carpe diem, seize the day. Live for the day, cuz tomorrow we may indeed die. Hope not. Anyway, I won't be at the games, far from it. But I can imagine the good feelings of the athletes, moms and dads, grandparents, sisters, brothers, cousins, uncles, everyone on down in the family trees, relatives, coaches, etc. and I know it's worth it.
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| B DeVenne
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02-21-2009 02:08 PM ET (US)
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Worth it an any cost? If they win every gold medal will it cure one person of cancer? Add one hospital or school to the system? Build one affordable house? Add on cop to the force to fight crime? No in fact the billions squandered on this event and the money needed year in and year out to maintain the facilities will have just the opposite effect. Another Canadian with poor priorities.
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| Teddyboy
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02-21-2009 10:27 PM ET (US)
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If you really want something to whine about how about the biggest waste of tax payer dollars, the DTES. Over the past 15 years there has been so much money poured into that shithole that nobody even knows how much, some say over a couple of billion. The money never hits the streets and helps those in need but instead goes to pay the salaries of the hundreds of redundant social service agencies and non profits. The DTES advocates are pulling off the most brilliant con job of our time, they make tons of money while pretending to do good for the community. The government should step in and audit every non profit group and social servies agency and determine what they actually do and where the money that they get ends up. I bet they will find that these groups work only to maintain the status quo in order to keep the cash flowing.
The only people better off in that hell hole are people like Libby Davies, Jenny Kwan and the other non profit poverty pimps who are determined to maintain their status and income by keeping the poor and destitute beneath them. The way things are done down there must change because it is not working and to keep throwing money and following the same policies is not only fiscally irresponsible but it is killing people. In Jim Chu's report on the DTES he noted that one homeless person comes in contact with 5 social services or non profit groups every day but still his lot in life is shit. That is all you need to know about the redundancy and the waste of taxpayers money that occurs down there.
So you boring Olympic whiners, if you want to whine about Olympic cost over runs that may not even happen go ahead but the real scam, the real waste of tax payers dollars and the real cause of human suffering is happening right now every day right in front of you.
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| Larry01
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02-22-2009 07:35 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 02-22-2009 07:36 PM
An Undying Call for Olympic Fanatics? By Concerned Citizen of Canada
Let your mind be freed from queries. Let your voice be heard everywhere. Arent you sick and tired of whats happening to our surroundings regarding the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics? Lobbying, rallying and boycotts may not be enough to get the attention of the VANOC officials and its elite groups and the greedy and unethical government officials of British Columbia. We have been continuously fooled by these people with their non-reliable and non-existing figures that they used to published in every corners of the mass media. If you people of Canada are more concern of what will and may happen in the future. On what will and may be the effect to the majority, not only for those people living in the skidrow area of East Vancouver but also for those average families. We are asking you to voluntarily participate in a MASS CONSCIOUSNESS BRIGADE, the power of our mind is very effective to use as our weapon to fight this elite group back. The power of intent is a powerful tool to change the weather on 2010. Yes, Vancouver Olympics may happen but if we will join together by using our mind there maybe a huge mass disruption in the outdoor events. We will be having a mild weather in the Whistler area. With these, it will be a great failure to the VANOCs and its allies and a big humiliation to the whole world. It is effective! This power of the mind has been proved in the year 1998 of July at Northeast of Florida when they were hit by a drought conditions. Upon using the Mass Consciousness they were able to have a downfall of rains. And it was a success! So people of Canada, lets give ourselves a chance. We can prove this to everybody. We can make a difference! We can do it!
''Needed is Angry Citizens Against 2010 Olympic Hippocracy''
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| Jim
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03-08-2009 07:35 PM ET (US)
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Construction is booming down here... Davie Street is getting re-done and Granville is a mess.... I expect it will happen all summer and I do expect "someone" will "save the day" and the fireworks will proceed.
There is a little park at Burnaby and Cardero Street that hold the resident bums... With a McDonald's and Safeway less than a block away as well as a liquor store and London Drugs the people obtain everything needed to spend their day eating, drinking, peeing, fighting, and partying in this park.
The park is only 3 blocks from Inukshuk and I wonder what will happen to our bums in the next 12 months. Nothing happens now except an ambulance every few days.... If Gergor will do something for them then great but no one else has... they don't live in the area it is just (was) a nice little park. If it is just olympic bullshit that moves them it will only be one more superficial thing this city and province does.
Kinda like the taser thing... you listen to politicians say something even though you see a completely different picture. I am not saying to move them or even all the people begging on Davie Street - It is part of the neighbourhood now and it is part of Vancouver. But I bet they will be gone in the next 12 months.
I would rather show my true face to the world than what I see happening. Who is the fool?
Just a thought.
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| Sammy
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03-09-2009 06:37 PM ET (US)
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So here is the plan if Gordo is elected! Since the forest industry is dead due to economic down turns world wide the trees will have many extra branches. All homeless will be given branches from the common spieces of B.C. Trees. Fir, Cedar, Spruce, Pine branches will be given to the homeless and they then are to hold those branches and disguise themselves as trees throughout the DTES. Thus solving the homeless problem with gianful employment and beautifing the streets. The Mascots Sqishy, Itchy and Smoochie will then romp around the forest of human trees for the delight of tourists and children.
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| Walter
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03-11-2009 05:15 AM ET (US)
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getting sick and tired of all the backroom stealings from honest taxpayers! when the guests arrive I`m not gonna be nice!! that way they will go back and tell everyone what a Stink hole gordon cambell turned Vancouver into! when anybody asks me for directions i will tell them to go F--- themselves,or better yet stick out my hand and beg for cash!!isn`t that what cambell wants us to do-2010 is a time to make money!!begging and panhandling!!that will teach the guests!!what a wanking country!!cant beat them join them!
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| tmore
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03-11-2009 09:12 PM ET (US)
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Boycott Vancouver Olympics 2010 . On October 14, 2007 , at the Vancouver international airport, Robert Dziekanski was shot several times with a taser by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP). He DIED within several minutes. Do you want to come to the Vancouver winter olympics with limited english and get tasered by the Nazi RCMP http://www.freewebs.com/boycottvancouverolympics/
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| steve
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03-12-2009 04:00 AM ET (US)
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Have you people seen the news tonight? What a bloody joke. 17 days of misery. I would like to personally tell every single parasite working for VANOC to shove the Olympics up their collective asses. I can't even use my own parking spot. I sincerely wish either of the two other cities had won the bid and the resulting obscene debt we're going to be saddled with. The store owners downtown are already saying how they're going to lose business.
The only winners in this whole Olympic fiasco are the VANOC parasites like John Furlong, Terry Wright and the rest of his toadies that the taxpayers are paying outrageous salaries to. Did you all know there is a huge pile of money set aside to pay them "bonuses" after the games are over? All we get is pumped up the rear end without even a kiss or dinner first.
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| Leftie Basher!!
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03-22-2009 04:31 PM ET (US)
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Wow! Only 326 days to go!!
Vancouver 2010 - The Sea To Sky Games
See you there!!
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