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rocker  218
11-06-2009 06:54 PM ET (US)
I never knew marbles could do that to horses until I read it in the paper - kinda sad poor things I bet they feel like those dolphins trained to put mines on enemy ships :-)
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Mary in Calgary  217
11-05-2009 03:40 AM ET (US)
Thanks, Bruce. I'll check it out.
49er  216
11-04-2009 10:38 PM ET (US)
So now I wonder if Chris Shaw and his buddies will be buying up the local supply of marbles to continue harassing police horses?
Bruce DeVenne  215
11-04-2009 12:45 PM ET (US)
Biggest surprise was the news the other night when they talked about the "Olympic Police" They have their own police force now???
Bruce DeVenne


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jlcharger  214
11-04-2009 11:42 AM ET (US)
funny story from a co-worker..."my son and i where watching the news,and we watched the olympic torch being run.my son says to me,hey dad,that torch looks like a giant dubbie!(marijuana cigarette)" after a few laughs i checked it out a little closer and what do you know...the autistic son was right! how ironic! maybe Ross Nicklebaglioti should be a torch runner...question?...when passing the torch to another runner, does the word "ear!" get a mention!.....instead of calling it the torch run, maybe it should be called the "Dubbie Run"
Wendybaby....  213
11-01-2009 07:39 PM ET (US)
2010 Olympic Prevarications!


Vexing over Olympic cost overruns and political lies, deception and manipulation by the B.C. Government plus cover-ups in the political system to push the elite interests of corporations and Olympic economic of interests.

To be perfectly ‘’honest’’ wait until party is over. Its will leave a legacy of debt loads, human misery by lack of funding for much needed social programs, health care and education not to mention a major erosion of environmental policies.

Curtailing free of speech and interference with peaceful protest. These security measures including security zones are violations of the ‘’People’s Charter of Rights’’.A police state is definitely happening in Vancouver, B.C. The civil liberties of Canadians are being eroded.

Just a friendly reminder of last spring 2009 election that the B.C. Government and official oppositions agreed before campaigning that they would not debate any related 2010 Olympic issues. This is not how a democracy works.

Vancouver and Whistler area could possibly be dealing with ‘’Flu- Pandemic’’ visitors from around the world would be spread man-made human infections.

Power of the mind your thoughts or prayer-whatever works for you? Yes ‘’Mass Consciousness’’ of the mind could change weather patterns to mildly warm conditions in southern B.C. rain, fog and windstorms could occur. Instead of complaining about 2010 Olympic Games we should direct our anger and frustration by focusing our intent on ‘’Mass Consciousness’’ for unfavorable weather conditions.

2010 Winter Olympic Games Legacy of debt occurring burden to working tax payers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5NOSaZDPDo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxD9cVMUoU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqpOlbPuV0k
Ball Buster  212
11-01-2009 04:30 PM ET (US)
Hey Ziggy I can see how upset you are about Vancouver 2010. I can feel the seething rage coming through in your post. I just wanted you to know that I'm laughing in your face!

Haha! Buddy-boy, you're gonna want to hide in a cave with fingers in both of your ears because come February we'll all be eatin', shittin', living, lovin' 20 freakin' 10!

Have a great time!! lol!
Ziggy  211
10-31-2009 08:16 PM ET (US)
And the fucking media that trumpets how wonderful it is to be Canadian!!

Yeah, right, you assholes. How about reporting on the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) that destroys Canadian sovereignty? This country has been sold and you fucking assholes tell me I should be proud? Go fuck yourselves!

I hope the Olympics is a fucking disaster.

And yes, I pray there will be torrential rains for the entire fucking thing.

And anyone looking forward to it.....don't you care about your community? The education system sucks, our health care sucks, new taxes every year, and our standard of living decreases weekly...and you're happy our tax dollars are paying for two weeks of fucking BS that will make the rich richer and you poorer? Stupid fucking sheep. WAKE THE FUCK UP!
Pissoff Taxpayer!  210
10-31-2009 07:40 PM ET (US)


I see a lot of postings on here about how the RICH are getting richer blah, blah, blah. Half of you people have NOTHING to bitch about. You need to consider the IMPACT this has had on those businesses that had to suffer through the construction and who are now going to suffer because they are in the 'SECURE ZONE'.

What about those communities that exist between Whistler and Vancouver? Did you even stop for a second to think of the impact this is having on US???

Squamish got FUCKED out of building that Oval rink by WHISTLER. Now with this lame ass transportation plan, the buses leave Vancouver and DO NOT STOP in any of the communities along the Sea to Sky Highway. Where is the benefit of having supposedly MILLIONS of people come into the area if they turned the Sea to Sky into a fucking BY PASS???? Not ONE...NONE...ZERO....business along the Sea to Sky corridor is going to see 1 fricken penny from this Olympic Ass Clown Show. That is why most of Squamish told the IOC to stuff their 'Home Stay program" Why the fuck should we open our homes to complete strangers who are going to contribute NOTHING to the local economy.

"What about that fancy new highway you guys got?" Ive heard this a million times already. WE didn't ask for it! The project was in the planning stages when Van/Whist decided to ADD it as part of the incentive to get the Olympics. That project was FORCED into action by those that wanted this Olympic Money Vacuum. NOW we are being told WHEN WE CAN AND CANNOT DRIVE THE HIGHWAY!!! WTF IS THAT!! For those of us the WORK in Whistler....we have to have a pass to drive to our lively hood....and on top of that...THEY ARE MAKING US BUY THE FUCKING PASSES!. That's right....we have to BUY A PASS to GET TO WORK!!!

SO you bunch of whiney buttercups. You better look at the bigger picture of how this AFFECTING your little lives besides having foot the bill in the NEAR FUTURE for this 5 ringed circus and look at the effect its having on those that LIVE/WORK IN THE AREA!

P.S You notice how I didn't say anything about the homeless...well that issue doesn't impact us that much along the Sea to Sky and my knowledge is limited. So I'll leave that argument to those that know.
Sammy  209
10-31-2009 07:31 PM ET (US)
The Olympics is all about funneling huge amounts of money into the pockets of the members of the IOC. Ever wonder why the proceeds from sale of broadcast rights aren't used to defray the costs of building facilities? It's because the members of the IOC won't tolerate a lifestyle below "better than kings".

Just why any politician falls for the Olympic scam is beyond my comprehension: the host city/province/state/country is invariably left holding the bag for enormous cost over runs, and the purported long term benefits are simply pipe dreams that don't come true.

Don't believe me? Remember the Commonwealth Games? Supposed to turn Victoria into "an international tourist destination." Yeah, sure. Tell me another one.

I'm all in favor of giving the best athletes a venue to strut their stuff, but the entire Olympic movement has been pre-empted by the greedy sons of bitches on the iOC. (And, quite likely, national Olympic committees as well)

I'll become less cynical when the members of the IOC and national Olympic committees serve without remuneration, without even reimbursement of expenses, and the income from the Olympics goes to pay the costs. Until then? It's a simple scam.
Bruce DeVenne  208
10-31-2009 03:06 PM ET (US)
Locally college games are being cancelled because of the flu. Schools are reporting 25% plus absenteeism New Brunswick has already closed some schools and Other provinces may soon follow. Emergency rooms are swamped and arrangements to use hotels as treatment centres are being made. These Olympics may not take place at all if the swine flu hits like it is expected and it seems to be doing just that. .
Bruce D
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Bruce DeVenne  207
10-31-2009 01:05 PM ET (US)
Here's the study. Not that fudging the facts.figures and impact of big games on tourism are fudged to the point it is SOP.
On 6th July 2006, ETOA, the European Tour Operators Association, released a discussion paper on the Olympic Games and its effect on tourism in the host nation. The study looked at sporting events and tourism, the television audience and the impact of hosting Olympic Games on a city'stourism infrastructure. It ended with case studies of Barcelona and Sydney - cities that have had ostensibly "good" games for tourism. The study found that there is no strong link between hosting sporting events and increased tourism. The audiences regularly cited for such events as the Olympics are exaggerated. Attendees at the Games displace normal visitors and scare tourists away for some time. Both Sydney and Barcelona had "excellent" Olympic Games, but their tourism industries have not significantly benefited. Thus there appears to be little evidence of any benefit to tourism of hosting an Olympic Games, and considerable evidence of damage. For ETOA, it is vital that the problems experienced by the host cities of past Games be acknowledged and addressed in order to avoid them reoccurring.
In the meantime, VisitBritain issued a response to this report, according to which benefits of hosting Olympic Games include a long-term investment in the future of Britain's visitor economy. The UK inbound visitor economy is forecast (precisely this kind of pre-event forecasts are actually criticised by ETOA) to benefit by almost GBP 2 billion over the period 2008-2017, the majority of this economic benefit will not come during the six weeks of the Games themselves, but in the window of opportunity that will be created before and after the Olympics. For VisitBritain, realising the tangible tourism benefits of the Olympics will require a properly researched strategy and investment and work on this has already started
http://www.iru.org/index/en_eu_newsletter/id.4

Bruce D



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Bruce DeVenne  206
10-31-2009 12:42 PM ET (US)
I had the full study posted on my site stopthehrmgames.com when it was up and running and successfully used to get Halifax out of the bidding for the Commonwealth Games. Also up was the article from the Toronto Star about Calgary fudging the numbers of the cost of the games where a profit turned into a debt when an independent audit of the books was done Government and their agebcies fudge the facts and figures to make themselves look good? They do it every day
Bruce


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Mary in Calgary  205
10-31-2009 04:55 AM ET (US)
Bruce, I would imagine that Calgary has direct and accurate access to its own tourist numbers, one source already provided below, before 'some study in Europe.' Please provide link to that nebulous study. I have several other sources besides the one I provided. Number fudging after the games were done would have been unecessary and counterproductive, as tourism people wanted to know whether hosting actually helped the numbers. Calgary is not a city that pretends. If something doesn't work, they want to know, and they scrap it. If it does work, they repeat it. Calgarians are not keen nor known at operating at a loss; but those were not recessionary times. Should these games suffer a loss, there are legacies, both tangible and intangible. Anyway, it's a done deal now, isn't it?
Bruce DeVenne  204
10-29-2009 09:33 PM ET (US)
Opposition to events such as the Olympics and the Commonwealth Games is based on reality, history and facts: Support is mainly due to hype and highly paid PR bull
Bruce D
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Ball Buster  203
10-29-2009 03:05 PM ET (US)
I support 2010 mainly because I know it upsets all the loser groups out there hahaahahah!

That is, Loser groups such as APC, DERA, etc. lol!
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