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11-21-2009 07:32 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 11-21-2009 07:33 AM
"Third, the revote has once again caused divisiveness in the district; East Islip TaxPac views the second balloting as a push by the Concerned Citizens group, which supposedly supports the teachers union. Though diverse views are a part of our system, this discord just seems to continue a separation of parties that need to work together."
Tax Pac views the second balloting as a push by concerned citizens group which supposedly supports the teachers Union ? What the hell would that have to do with bussing ?????????? What benefit would passing a transportation bill have on the teachers union ?????? It makes absolutley no sense. Where could one find this editorial in print ?
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11-21-2009 08:46 AM ET (US)
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ask the bus drivers about the EI bus contract, they all know the deal, what we pay for is not what we get. is someone getting kickbacks???????????? influence peddling?????????
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11-21-2009 09:19 AM ET (US)
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"Concerned Parents" is not a concerned citizens group. They were outed long ago as members of the East Islip Teachers' Association, most of whom don't even live in the district. Oh sure there were a few "real" parents: some were jock parents who thought more funds would be diverted from education to sports if they joined this group and then there is the skanky bus driver who'll join anything to get attention.
For those of you who are still uneducated after all these years, teacher contracts are negotiated by comparing themselves to other districts in the area. That is why the teachers' union want to keep all the area wages/benefits high. Comparisons are also made concerning length of school day, athletic fields (grass vs. astroturf), busing, etc.
Unfortunately, "Concerned Parents" duped the community into believing the mailings and phone calls they received at vote time were from fellow community members. The truth is 99.9% of "Concerned Parents" are teachers who actually live in other districts.
How many times does this community have to vote NO on the busing issue? When will the trashy parents finally step up and do their own parenting?
VOTE NO!
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11-21-2009 09:22 AM ET (US)
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I have spoke to a few of the bus drivers. Most of them live within the district and their own kids are grown. They have to pay the same tax bill as the rest of the EI residents and the teachers that live in the district also pay the same tax bill as the rest of the community. Extra buses will not benefit them in anyway at all.It will not benefit the teachers union in anyway either. They already have their jobs and will continue to have them regardless of whether this bill passes or not. As usual you post nonsense.
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11-21-2009 09:53 AM ET (US)
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if you did speak to a few of the bus drivers, you know the truth. noone is pointing fingers at the drivers a closer look needs to be taken at the bus company.
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11-21-2009 10:07 AM ET (US)
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Bus Company??
Who is friends with who????
Improprieties?????
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11-21-2009 10:48 AM ET (US)
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Take a close look at the bus company ? What exactly are you implying. Please stick to actual facts that can be backed up. Please refrain from posting baseless rumors and hearsay.
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11-21-2009 02:41 PM ET (US)
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VOTE NO!
Polling the buses won't matter. There is a legal obligation to supply a seat to every eligible student whether they chose to sit in the seat(ever) or not. There is some logic to this; If they need to get all the eligible bus kids home due to some emergency there must be the seats available. Eligibility is based upon the current distance policy in place for many years.
The past practice has been the unreserved seats where given out on temporary passes. This all come to be an issue because one bus was dropped due to enrollment - I believe the route was over by St. Mary's. Those parents wanted temporary passes and none were available (or not enough for all the requests). They made a case to the district that can be summed up as: "If we can't have temporary passes why should others get them". This of course become the EISD current policy - "we can't pick and choose" - fair is fair right?. So here we go - we will have another vote (at a cost to he taxpayers = approx $16K). - to change the distance guidelines and add three buses at cost of about $170k per year , every year, of course this is not including cost increase, gas, insurance, etc. This is a case of some members of the community not considering the impact their case may have on the other members of community - maybe they didn't know , maybe they didn't care, doesn't matter - the result is the same.
Here are a few facts:
The NYS limit a child in a HS can walk is 3 miles. We currently have 1 1/2.
The current policy has been in place since the '70's.
How many of the current parents bought their house's ( hopefully informed about the bus policies in place) after the 70's - under the current rules?Most current parents did not own a home in the community 30 years ago - I would even venture to say < 97% did not.
The point is that we chose the house we bought and if due diligence was done - we knew where the schools were - we still chose our properties based upon where in town we wanted to live, regardless of our "bus eligibility".
Bottom line - our costs are always going up - we accelerate the rate of increase by demanding more from the District.
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SO both parents have to work to pay the taxes that fund the schools -
SO no one can be home to walk with their kids if they feel they are not safe walking to school - Grandma cant' do it, she had to move of NY because she couldn't afford the taxes-
SO maybe they drive their kids to school which increases costs to the family: gas, time from work-
SO some employ morning sitters or go to work late -
SO maybe they have to use the afterschool program which costs $-
It is a perpetual circle that keeps growing in scale.
SO - How much harder or longer do you want to work to support an issue that personally effects you for a few years (4th-12th grade maximum for many families much less) but financially effects you for as long as you live in this community.
Its up to District residents to make a personal decision and vote in November for community impact.
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11-21-2009 03:21 PM ET (US)
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If we get 400 people on a petition next year can we get the distances pushed back to the state minimums?
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11-21-2009 04:01 PM ET (US)
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HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO..How about answering the question ???? Or can't you ? Because you don't have truthful factual information as usual.....Stop the shit Deabold. Get a job you freaking retard and stop posting your bullshit lies. LOSER
Take a close look at the bus company ? What exactly are you implying. Please stick to actual facts that can be backed up. Please refrain from posting baseless rumors and hearsay.
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11-21-2009 07:18 PM ET (US)
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Hey "bus drivers......"
Why don't you and the rest of your little loser friends go back to kissing the union's butt. After all, it's what you do best. You're too stupid to understand anything else. Your most likely the same brainless asshole poster from earlier. I'm still waiting for you to get a brain....ticktockticktock
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11-21-2009 09:45 PM ET (US)
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Just like I thought. You have nothing as usual. Just rumors lies and bullshit. For once in your pitiful life tell the truth. You are a useless freaking retard. You are a piss poor excuse for a father, husband and human being. Your kids are drop out losers just like you. You are all freaking retards. Stop lying, cheating and manipulating. Man up and get a job. Take responsibility.
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11-22-2009 05:51 AM ET (US)
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And just like I thought.....
You are still obsessed with one man, blinded by your own stupidity to realize that there are many, many people in this community who are sick of the "concerned parent's" bullshit.
You are the loser, the freaking retard who lies, cheats and manipulates. In your blind devotion to the school district, you refuse to see the abuse and dirty dealings going on right under your nose. You will sacrifice your neighbor, the community's children, and the elderly in order to satisfy your own agenda.
You are not wanted here. Go back to posting your bullshit over on the schwartz.
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11-23-2009 06:36 AM ET (US)
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TOMORROW IS THE TRANSPORTATION VOTE.
GRAB YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND VOTE NO!!
ISN'T IT TIME PARENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN KIDS??
VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO
The Transportation Proposition vote will be held on November 24th, 2009, between the hours of 8AM and 9PM.
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11-23-2009 07:45 AM ET (US)
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You should vote on Tuesday against the Transportation Proposition because this is just another reason to increase your taxes....another line item to increase when they do not have to. The district had an additional 3,000,000 from last year to increase the reserves...when will enough be enough. The reserves are now 10,000,000.
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11-23-2009 08:47 AM ET (US)
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"Gov. David A. Paterson, speaking in Great Neck Sunday morning, repeated his call for state legislators to pass midyear budget cuts to health care and school aid, saying failure to do so would be "penny-wise and pound-foolish.""
But our school district wants to INCREASE TAXES by expanding transportation because a mere 2% of the population signed a petition. Way to go East Islip!
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