Dal,
I have to say, it does fit in-line with what you have been saying...incredible...I can totally understand why the Popes have determined to keep things from the faithful...the underlying point to me is the prediction for WWIII...with the Pope being assassinated. So you think it will be Pope Benedict? I hope and pray not...that would mean that we are close to these events from happening. Do you think war will break out in 2008? I'm curious as I am in the army reserves. I often wonder if my destiny is to go to war. Not to sound fatalistic, but I have 5 months to decide whether I want to get out or not, something tells me that I may not have the choice by then. I think God has a purpose for us all...I don't know, it could be just my nerves. Anyway, take care, thank you and God bless.


Mike

Mike:

I believe the official release of Third Secret. The Holy Father in the vision gunned down is Pope Benedict XVI. The soldiers are Muslims. The mount is the ruined Rome. Many priests and bishops will be slaughtered in Europe. Above them all, an angel was calling out, "Penence, penance!" Now I can see why pope after pope were reluctant to release this vision. It is very descriptive and fit perfectly with what I have been saying.

I respect Fahter Kramer on his effort to spread the message of Fatima, but I cant agree with his public negative criticism on JP II and now Benedict XVI.

Thanks,

Dal

Interesting thread...here is the begining and the rest is the hyperlink.

God Bless,
Mike

Third Secret of Fatima-World War III and Worse?
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Here is an interview with Father Paul Kramer. He talks about Father Malachi Martin, The Third Secret, The apostasy in the Church, World War III and he speaks of past and present
prophetic revelations from Heaven which are trying to warn and prepare us for what is coming.

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The Third Secret Predicts:
World War III and Worse?
The Fatima Crusader Interviews Father Paul Kramer

http://www.fatimacrusader.com/cr82/cr82pg11.asp?printer
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Introduction

Many Catholics remember the startlingly candid remarks of Mother Angelica on the Eternal Word Television Network concerning the vision of the Third Secret disclosed by the Vatican on June 26, 2000. Mother Angelica said to her national television audience on May 16, 2001:

As for the Secret, I happen to be one of those individuals who thinks we didn’t get the whole thing … Because I think it’s scary ...

Mother Angelica, like millions of Catholics the world over, found it hard to believe that an obscure vision of a “bishop dressed in white” hobbling past the dead bodies of bishops, priests and laity outside a half-ruined city, and then being executed by a band of soldiers, is all there is to a Secret that had been kept under lock and key by the Vatican for more than forty years. For one thing, where are the “words of the Virgin” — mentioned by the Vatican itself in its 1960 announcement suppressing the Secret — which would explain this vision? How did the Pope and his bishops end up in a situation where they were slaughtered? Is the half-ruined city none other than the devastated city of Rome from which the Pope flees over the dead bodies of his subjects, as Pius X is said to have foreseen in his own prophetic vision?

Father Paul Kramer, who has studied the facts and circumstances of the Third Secret for some thirty-five years, agrees with Mother Angelica that the Third Secret is indeed scary — and far scarier than Catholics have generally understood.

Father Kramer has concluded from his research that the Third Secret foretells much more than the apostasy in the Church that begins “at the top,” as revealed by Cardinal Ciappi, the papal theologian to five consecutive Popes, (from Pius XII to John Paul II) who read the Secret. That much was indicated clearly by what Fatima scholars unanimously agree is the beginning of the Third Secret starting with the “words of the Virgin”: “In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved” to which Sister Lucy added “etc.” to indicate that more words of Our Lady would follow in the Third Secret.

Beyond this, says Father Kramer, the “words of the Virgin” suppressed by the Vatican in 1960 do indeed explain how the Pope comes to be executed outside the half-ruined city. That event is the culmination of a series of catastrophic events, including not only the calling of Vatican II and its being hijacked by modernist liberals within the Church structures. The Third Secret also foretold what we are now living through, namely the aftermath of Vatican II. It also foretells that World War III will possibly leave Rome in ruins. In this interview for The Fatima Crusader, Father Kramer shows how the missing words of the Virgin must complete a puzzle whose pieces are already available to us from reliable sources, including the late Pope John Paul II himself. Let the reader prayerfully consider in his heart, Father Kramer’s research into the voices of Catholic prophecy that foretell our immediate future.

http://prophecies.us/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1198722463

THEY USE SPEED-BOAT JUST AS I HAD SAID...

http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/mi.../article3147217.ece

TIME IS NEAR.

Dal

THE SOLEMNITY OF MOTHER OF GOD:

Mother of God, help us to know, to love, and to serve the Lord.
Mother of Heavenly Bliss, teach us to give thanks and praise.
Mother of sorrows, may we bring you joy by constantly imploring your help.
Mother of joy, help us to be sorrowful to sin.
Mother of our Advocate, be ready to guide and assist your children.
Mother of Grace, intercede for us heavenly favors, teach us the great Prayer of Mass.
Mother of clemency, implore the Almighty for mercies and pardons for our sins.
Mother of Glory, magnify the Lord our Creator and Savior on our behalf.
Mother of Intercessory Power, protect us with your maternal love.
Mother of miracles, grant us the miracle of transformation by selfless charity.
Mother of assistance, ready to heed us whenever we call your glorious and blessed name MARY.
Mother of the Most High, may we greatly revere you simply for your most sublime and highest Title.
Mother of the Church, favor us generously, help us liberally to conform to the teachings of the Church and in propagation of Faith.
Mother of families, be the patroness of all our families, encourage us how to love and pray together.
Mother of souls, bring us to the everlasting friendship and sonship with God.

Amen.

PROPHETIC COMMENTARY:

According to the ancient prophecies including the ones derived from the Sacred Scriture, Iran-led Muslims will attack Europe with nuclear weapons.

Now Iran is left alone to develope nuclear weapons, Muslim extremists on the rise, and weather devastation in the West, economic disaster looming in horizon, we can see that we now enter the final stage before the FINAL CONFLICT.

Dal

The whole Western world celebrate Christ's Birth in the shopping malls, the poor third-world countries with families and churches, the Christians in North Korea, China, Vietnam anticipated an annual crack-down from their atheistic governments as the Devil is raging during this time of the year.

Depressing and sadden times.

Dal

INSPIRATION:

"Offer Me love for the gift of gold, continual prayers for incense, sacrifices and mortifications for myrrh. And then take care the least of My brothers."


(Adapted from the City of God by Mary Agreda. I have a link for a free eBook somewhere below or you can get it from amazon.com or Tan Bookstore. I learn so much from this book. Dal)

My dear Lord Jesus,

You are my God Who condescended to become man, humiliated with poverty, despised, unwelcome and unknown, born in a cave, laid in a manger, surrounded by brute animals, nursed by the poverty-stricken Mother, guardianed by the righteous carpenter, cast off by the foolish arrogance of the world.

May my heart be disengaged, free of all earthly affections and wants, to be ready to celebrate the mystery of Your incarnation and nativity with the holy poverty, pure simplicity, and the divine love of the Incarnate God.

(Adapted from the City of God by Mary Agreda)

All my reader friends, may you and your family have a blessed CHRISTMAS. May you live Christmas in every Holy Mass when you receive our Blessed Lord into your heart.

Dal

Dal,
Continue to do great things and to keep us all enlightened...you have a purpose set by God...many blessings and Merry Christmas to you a your Family!

Mike

THE INTERPRETATION OF OUR FATHER PRAYER
Dear Lord,
By the inspiration and intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mother, may I feel obliged at all times to care for all Your children as all my brothers and sisters of the same eternal Father. May I more willing to assist in their salvations by my unceasing prayers and supplications. May I myself who is nourished by the Christian Faith and benefited by Your liberal Hand, be more generous in helping my less fortunate brethrens to know and to love You, to intercede for them the same divine Grace and Mercy that You have liberally bestowed upon this ungrateful creature. May I follow the law of our Lord Jesus Christ in sharing all my temporal advantages to my unfortunate brothers. May I seek not the life of ease, but the life of cares and true earnest labor to further Your Kingdom on earth, to ease others’ sufferings, and to save souls. May I be more concerned with the ruin of the flock of Christ who are deserted and wandering without their shepherds. May I be motivated in defeating our infernal enemies with no regard of my own well-being or carnal interests. May serving You and Your glory be the constant praises upon my lips, seen through my actions and labor. May Your cause presently neglected be carried out with more fervent dedication. May I receive Your grace and strength to bring souls back to Your possession. May I disregard my own interest and preservation but rely totally on You and live for You alone. May my heart be broken while witnessing the Truth being obscured, avarice unbridled, the Blood of Christ trodden under foot, the fruits of Redemption held in contempt. May I plunge my whole being and my existence into Your service while realizing that not many wishe to risk their own comfort and interest in order to save what has cost our Savior His Blood and His Life. May I make use of the holy charity and my free will, with my utmost capability for the sake of souls and for the sake of the Lord’s and Blessed Mother’s Passion. May I turn the Lord’s agony into joy with my sacrifices. May I bring Him comfort in my laboring. May I adore my Lord and King in following Him to glean some remaining grapes and grains in His Field of harvest. May I always hear Blessed Mother’s words echoed in my soul, “ How it is possible, my child, to have a true love for my divine Son and for me if you find consolation and rest in your heart at the sight of the loss of souls, which He redeemed by His Blood and I have sought with blood-mingled tears? “ May I weep instead over the great loss of souls and the calamities threatening the Church. May I become sorrowful to merit Your merciful inclination upon us. May my lamentation becomes so deep that I find no relief except in afflictions for the sake of the Lord Whom I love above all and Who still carries His Cross alone. May I find strength to pray without ceasing for Blessed Mother’s intercession for the salvation of my brothers. May the labors and tribulations sent to me be not obstacles but the manifestations of His divine Will for me to help my brothers acquiring the possession of Christ. May I persevere in holiness and purity to recompense some the injuries caused by the others’ sins. and my own. May I defend the souls in peril in purity and Faith, for the honor and Glory of God and for His Heavenly kingdom. Dearest Mother, please bless me. Amen.

Edited by author 11-30-2007 09:30 PM
You claim to be a man of god but really you are a man of fear and hatred. You have no love for humanity, just your (christian/muslim) religion. Shame on you.

Disapointed surfer Gus.

GUERILLA WAR IN FRANCE:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/11/27/europe/riots.php

Edited by author 11-22-2007 08:12 AM
Tension building-up:

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvFYh6UrA3KiWQzWZJbt-334mKaw


PUTIN FEARS THE WEST:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bafb99b6-983c-11...7-0000779fd2ac.html


sTRIKES IN FRANCE UPDATES:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071121/wl_nm/france_strike_dc_14

CHAOS IN FRANCE:

Strikes in France escalate:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=07...ysmv&show_article=1

CIVIL WAR-LIKE CHAOS IN WESTERN EUROPE RIGHT BEFORE WW III PREDICTED:

Is this the beginning of civil unrests in Europe?

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=07...crm0&show_article=1

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=07...e52q&show_article=1



HOLMES COMET, A CELESTIAL SIGN:

The comet is exploding and its coma, a cloud of gas and dust illuminated by the sun, has grown to be bigger than the planet Jupiter. The comet lacks the tail usually associated with such celestial bodies but can be seen in the northern sky, in the constellation Perseus, as a fuzzy spot of light about as bright as the stars in the Big Dipper. "This is truly a celestial surprise," Lewis said. "Absolutely amazing." Until Oct. 23, the comet had been visible to modern astronomers only with a telescope, but that night it suddenly erupted and expanded.
Read more ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21636369/

MOST RECENT MESSAGE FROM SADIE, THE VISIONARY IN CALIFORNIA:

......... I then could see Jesus pointing to a clock in the heavens and the 2 hands were at the 12. Then Jesus said:
The floodgates of Gods justice will burst open on humanity.”

 Suddenly, I could still see the image of Jesus as I had seen Him years ago, when He was walking very fast and there were many people walking with Him; that was when He first pointed to a clock. So this time, I am seeing Jesus again, dressed in exactly the same, white gown, but this time He is standing still and His gown and hair are blowing as if a great wind is causing this. Jesus then says:

“As I blew new life into you, as I poured upon you my love, so too you will see this wind of My Holy Spirit blowing, so that this mighty outpouring of the Holy Spirit will come to regenerate, purify, and renew the hearts of my followers.

The Holy Spirit will come with force and might and purify that which needs to be purified; cleanse that which needs to be cleansed; renew all the hearts created by the Father to love Him, to know Him, and to serve Him, now before the moment known to heaven alone, which all men must pass. Permitting to man free will to choose Me; to choose life; to choose love. Most have chosen not to do so.

This moment (of decision) will come to catch many unaware and unprepared. It will be to their own folly, for I have permitted much time of mercy to be given through the pleading of My Most Holy Mother. Time that mankind has had to convert and come back to the Fathers heart of love and live that love in this world. Most have chosen not to do so.

For those who live now with me; for those who did not get to see what you shall see; they pray with and for you and are united with you in prayer, as you enter into the most bloody and painful part of the chastisement which is most near. Some would choose not to believe this is so. Again, to their own folly.
 
The floodgates of Gods justice will burst forth on humanity.”
 
Now the vision has “expanded and I can see off to the right hand side a great ball of light, spinning and looking very much like the pinwheels you pin to a post for the 4th of July that make it look like an orb with a tail. This I see very clearly. Large, and bright, and little by little a tail begins to form. Jesus then says:

“The passing of the comet is very near.” “Do not fear, but TRUST IN ME.”