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Huh?  38784
11-20-2009 08:18 PM ET (US)
Prove you told me that. C'mon, you know the rule.... Deny, deny, deny....
JoeRR2  38783
11-20-2009 10:10 AM ET (US)
According to the ELM, which of course we all have a copy and training on, and all are expected by USPS and the OIG to live by and have memorized, anyone havang any knowledge of any violations is obligated to bring it to the attention of the appropriate levels..

Then again, A reg was TOLD by someone, then the reg doesn't have first hand knowledge, as in hearsay.

I would hate to take that report to management and be wrong about the individual, but I would hate to have the sub involved in an accident, then have that Administrator call management and say "I told so n so about it last week"

Would be best for the Administrator to report it.

Sorry, but I don't have a "correct" answer to give you
stavanger34  38782
11-19-2009 07:47 PM ET (US)
Thanks to all for info......Have another situation.....another Reg was told by Administrator of nursing home she delivers to that her RCA smelled like liquor and acted drunk last time she was sub on her route......Does she have responsibility to report this?
pabakPerson was signed in when posted  38781
11-19-2009 02:57 PM ET (US)
And..I might add, if the next route to be consolidated butts up against the pissed off carrier's routes, THEY'LL be the one's gaining territory.
pabakPerson was signed in when posted  38780
11-19-2009 02:55 PM ET (US)
I read it wrong. I thought "stavanger34" was referring to the Christmas guaranteed-your-not-going-to-get-any-overtime period... not the "guaranteed period."
My mistake. 25 slashes with a wet noodle.

"hojo" ... from what I've witnessed, management can (and will) do whatever it feels like when consolidating a route, with the district prick's blessing of course.
Instead of posting our last retiree's route (which was one of our largest) it was split up among 5 other routes. Four of those routes went from H's and J's to 43 K's while the other went from a low H to a 41 K. That carrier has no high/low option.

The supervisor had to prove to the district that the restructuring made sense from an office stand point. He did take suggestions from the routes affected and all were quite pleased. All 5 of these routes had touched up against the route being split.

Of course it pissed off other carriers, but its not an issue of seniority or even favoritism. It was all about "operational standpoint."
hojo  38779
11-19-2009 11:26 AM ET (US)
old timer----you are right. I was thinking about xmas overtime. Could I ask you this question? We had a vacant route in our office and the postmaster readjusted territory on several routes, mine included. I thought that every route involved had to come back what they were, example: 42k stays a 42k. However, 2 routes in our office went up in evaluation because of the adjustment. Postmaster says they had enough time already to go up without the adjustment, but I know for a fact that one of the routes only had 24minutes in the bank and some boxes was taken off of my route to his route and made him go up. My route stayed the same evaluation except now instead of being hour away from going up I'm 2minutes from going down. I have filed a grievance. Any input from you or anyone else would be helpful. thanks!
old timer  38778
11-19-2009 10:28 AM ET (US)
Been working for the postal service almost 29 years, The guarantee period has started the end of Oct. for as long as I can remember. But the Christmas overtime period starts the first of December, and runs three weeks. This year it starts Dec. 5th and ends Dec. 25th.
hojo  38777
11-19-2009 07:18 AM ET (US)
 The guaranteed period started Oct. 24. It use to be in december but not anymore. Talked to state stewart about this and she confirmed.
pabakPerson was signed in when posted  38776
11-18-2009 11:17 PM ET (US)
Typically the first Saturday in December.
stavanger34Person was signed in when posted  38775
11-18-2009 10:31 PM ET (US)
When exactly does the guarantee period start?....
JoeRR2  38774
11-18-2009 10:17 PM ET (US)
after the start of the guarantee period, but before xmas, X day usage is done differently than the rest of the year
stavanger34Person was signed in when posted  38773
11-18-2009 09:34 PM ET (US)
A carrier in my office took a sick day two weeks ago.....he had an X day banked and he lost that X day instead of a sick day....and he was told it was because in holiday period.....how can this be?
John Wayne  38772
11-18-2009 06:54 PM ET (US)
2nd chime: I knew a carrier here in Connecticut that got DUI, loss licence and the father drove the carrier around each day for years until he could drive again! Unbelieveable
mm..mmm good  38771
11-17-2009 08:59 PM ET (US)
a fistful of cold Ramen and a 16 ouncer down your shirt, plus drool. sitting on the floor, too. man, how come granny didn't know about cell phone video?
cool breeze  38770
11-17-2009 06:38 PM ET (US)
a carrier got fired 3 years ago cause guy on his route said come out by the pool anytime and have beer from the cooler. trouble was by time carrier got back on that route, wife had tossed guy out. carrier drank all the beer and hit on teenage girls who called police. didn't help he split and totaled LLV.
gonzo  38769
11-17-2009 06:32 PM ET (US)
Back in the day, boss grabbed several clerks and said take a truck to water side Ritz Carlton. Carrier passed out face up, dead drunk, noon. From then all we called ourselves Rescue 8. Carriers BS cause back then, they weren't going to be paid for it. And he hadn't even made it first hit so the whole route had to be delivered.
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