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vax  39767
02-04-2010 05:27 PM ET (US)
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    Our clerks the same , we are forced to take FSS to the street, but wait for clerks to get mail and parcels up,two of our carriers went to get their FSS instead of waiting and were forced to return FSS , can only touch as leaving, the we finger 3 spots for free, load and take to the street, no time to find it in different area every day, FSS a real screw job!
rcaforever  39768
02-04-2010 05:41 PM ET (US)
vax......you must have an LLV because they can't "force" you to take FFS to the street in a POV.........

as far as cut-off times, somewhere it states that management will have mail ready for you so that you can deliver in the time alloted dbased on the route, and then make dispatch......right ???? I know there have been some carriers on here that state that there is no way they can make dispatch based on the route size, starting times, and lunch........just by doing the math........
JoeRR2Person was signed in when posted  39769
02-04-2010 06:04 PM ET (US)
don't neglect to document your waiting time for FSS

RCA, I think you are confusing that with the statement that management must curtail mail if you are going to be a certain amount of time late in departing to service the route. Thinking it was 20 minutes or more...
JoeRR2Person was signed in when posted  39770
02-04-2010 06:07 PM ET (US)
Officially, the rural craft has no bereavement leave, but the first supervisor that deny's sick lv use for a death in the family needs to be written up for harassment as a minimum, and a good solid beating is more than deserved.
rcaforever  39771
02-05-2010 09:13 AM ET (US)
JoeRR2.......isn't that what would be happening ??? curtail mail so that the carrier can service the route with 20 minutes of the routes scheduled leave time ??? No ???

Also, the only bereavement time I have ever seen, is administrative leave if the family member was killed in the line of duty in the military........3 days........

and speaking of administrative leave, I swear that I once read, while "surfing the net", on another state union site, from the state steward of that state, in regards to Christmas overtime, that, and I quote......."if management instructs a carrier to take the whole day off Friday ( because they are at their evaluation for the week) then they have to pay the carrier administrative leave for the whole day"......where as, if they tell them to come in for an hour, they wuldn't have to.........can't locate this again, didn't print it out, and can't find it anywwhere......may have dreamt it........but while trying to find it, that is where I ran into the Admin. Leave for bereavement for family members killed in action...........
vax  39772
02-05-2010 09:01 PM ET (US)
RCA forever


   Our managers will no curtail mail, had one a number of years ago file a delayed mail report, and got his rear in a huge sling, big boys want all done every day, and dont care if the carrier kills himself getting it done
 Last big storm had Email at office from VP Lane, telling all managers carriers get paid to deliver the mail, he would except no excuse for not doing so, hours later after caseing mail DM sent Email to dangerous to go on the street, someone must have gotten hurt, never have they told us to dangerous to go out, always dump the responsibility on us deliver safely, dont deliver your in the office, have an accident, get ready for letter of removal, automatic here,stewards busy with this one!
northclerkPerson was signed in when posted  39773
02-06-2010 07:44 AM ET (US)
Hmmm. In our District SOP is to hold all bulk Mail {some offices also hold 2nd}. Carriers case it when they get back from the street.
SherK  39774
02-06-2010 03:33 PM ET (US)
What is a mcat report? Came off the route today and heard other route in the office will be counted due to the information in the mcat report. (One of the clerks showed me the e-mail) They expect to save one hour. This sucks, because we didn't think the office was being counted, so we didn't go to count school, and now it's too late.
Butthead  39775
02-06-2010 03:41 PM ET (US)
heh heh heh heh you can hold my "bulk" mail babae
Sue  39776
02-08-2010 04:22 PM ET (US)
does the opt-in for the count end on the 10th or the 12th?
The national paper said the 12th, the stand up said the 10th.
Hellboy  39777
02-08-2010 06:12 PM ET (US)
I see where many routes get LLV's......I can understand if it is mostly suburban delivery but how can you use those vehicles in the country?...or don't they?.....I have a Jeep 4x4 and have trouble enough making it down these miserable gravel roads....so what is up with all this replacement talk?
mimi  39778
02-08-2010 10:11 PM ET (US)
The opt in form is the 10th. The last day for pre-count conference is the 12th.
betram  39779
02-09-2010 05:44 PM ET (US)
hello to all, hey on page 15 of thecarrier mag. it says 2-12-2010 is the last day of option in period. did this change to the 10th? What happens if the regular is taking annual leave and doesn't get the opt-in form?
rsewellPerson was signed in when posted  39780
02-09-2010 05:47 PM ET (US)
Date in the Magazine was a misprint. If as long as the opt in sheet is date stamped on the 10th and in your posession when you return, it's good.
bjho14  39781
02-09-2010 08:30 PM ET (US)
what do you all think about the new FSS standards. If you drive an LLV you won't be allowed to case the flats, have to take to the street and during mail count get 27 a minute. If you drive private owned vehicle, you get 17 a minute. Sounds like to me, the ones with LLV's are getting punished! Doesn't seem fair. What are you all's thoughts on this?
betram  39782
02-09-2010 10:18 PM ET (US)
thanks rsewell, tomorrow is the 10 and I'll be there so if no paperwork on my desk when I leave then its too bad for management? or can they give it to me am on the 11?
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