http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/...-fix-postal-budget/

Fewer days of mail delivery to fix postal budget?



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http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/ind...office_go_to_f.html

Should the Post Office go to five-day mail delivery?

ray...of course, just pointing out that 100 boxes at the minimum credit, 1 minute and a few miles would be over 2 hours a week. Sorry about the NDCBUs...I still don't think it's fair that they count towards density for L routes. 2 Hours is quite a hit to take, on top of the volumn hits our craft has taken the last few years

flgirl
And don't forget the volume factor, unless they are "new" deliveries.
When I gained 100 boxes, they were "NEW" NCBU boxes, a new apartment complex and a new nursing home.

RCAForever...you only have to meet 1 of the criteria for a special Sept count to be held. 2 hour change or an L change. You must have a very high milage route for 100 boxes and only a few miles to not change you to an L route. Remember, it doesn't matter what type of box it is, even NDCBUs count towards your box density. 100 NDCBU and 3 miles would give you 136 minutes per week, that is over a 2 hour change. Unless you are playing devils advocate....it's 4th of July, not April Fools Day...lol

Happy 4th everyone. Hope you will be able to watch fireworks this evening, apparently some towns have canceled their displays because of the economy. Too bad most areas have made it illegal for us to set off our own. Have a great day

Edited by author 07-04-2009 12:57 PM
/m37492 barebull98

Happy Fourth, Why is Palin resigning? For the same reason we have highly qualified and well respected rural carriers early retiring and just plain quitting after years of hard work. Because every time you turn around something you have no control over is thrown in your face. Everyone is scared to make decisions or make a mistake or even get noticed by management for fear they become a target. She is just plain tired of being a punching bag for the socialist media and partisian hacks who know she doing the job but could care less. Just like we are and no one cares because it is all about the money.

/m37494 rcaforever

How about this novel idea...you have all the information in front of you, provided of course by other people, how about YOU actually figuring something out for yourself this time???

My money is still on a national count in September for ALL routes.

rcaforever
I thought you were smarter then that, your figures are flawed.
First if you add 100 deliveries to the route you will get either 100 minutes (1 minute boxes) or 200 minutes (regular boxes) plus the "volume factor" which could be from 1 1/2 minutes to maybe 3 minutes per box plus 12 minutes per mile.

Now as to the "L" route not being much of a change?? I gained 100 (1 minute) boxes, no miles and I lost about 2 hours pay per week because I went from non "L" to an "L" route.

Nice system, gain 100 more customere and lose 2 hours pay per week.....

SO, when they dissolve the aux. route and add 100 deliveries to my route and maybe a couple miles........as long as I don't meet BOTH criteria for a special count, they can't count me.......

Will probably have an 120 minute change, but WON'T go to an "L" route. Two of the other route getting deliveries added to their route will be going to an "L"........but may not add 120 minutes, so none of us will be counted.........

Edited by author 07-04-2009 09:28 AM
That was the Oil Companies plan from the start, when the picked her to run for VP........nice plan huh??? They wanted her out of Alaska......BAD.....

Happy fourth,
  Why is Palin resigning?Strange.

Edited by author 07-04-2009 07:43 AM
/m37490

You are correct, that is another provision but there are seldom counts under this article as very few routes qualify and it is NOT an optional count, as in the carrier requesting a count. To be counted under the article you cited, a route must MEET certain criteria, it is not a matter of a PM, a supervisor or a 204-B requesting a count. It has been discussed on here that certain managers and/or carriers are going to count routes. There has to be a basis for such a count, otherwise the artice I have referred to would come into play and then it would be ALL routes.

I do commend your effort in looking this up.

Article 9.2.C.a.9(4)

(4) The Employer reserves the right to conduct
a national count of mail for all rural
routes during the last twelve (12) working
days in September of any year. The
Employer agrees to notify the Union at the
national level at least thirty (30) days in
advance of the commencement of the
count.

Edited by author 07-04-2009 12:54 AM
bob1 /m37479 Your right "Some of you people should take a few minutes and actually open your contract, read it and comprehend it."

Because from what I read in the contract, there are special count that are in sept that are not national counts.

ART 9.2.c.11. Special Counts

a. Special counts are conducted under the following
three (3) circumstances:

(1) When circumstances have negated the
validity of the latest count and evaluation.
No salary adjustments will be made as a
result of the count unless the evaluation of
the route is changed by 120 minutes (2
hours) or more.
(2) When an auxiliary route evaluates thirtynine
(39:00) standard hours or more.

(3) Whenever a 120 minute (2 hours) or more
salary adjustment is made on a route,
whether due to a substantial service
change or a route adjustment, and the density
of the route after the change has been
increased to twelve (12) boxes per mile or
more or has been decreased to less than
twelve (12) boxes per mile.
b. Special mail counts must be made during the
last twelve (12) working days in September.
Salary adjustments will be made pursuant to
Article 9.2.C.9.

Did that say the last twelve (12) working days in September and not ALL the routes?

new sub - just do your job correctly, don't worry so much about making evaluation. We just had a PTF walked off the floor for dumpster ditching. His excuse - "trying to make evaluation" You always hear about these idiots, but it's weird working with one...