Bounce house for sale in General inflatables, both for kids and adults. If you are running an inflatable rental business, if you want to add some happiness for family daily life, if you want to make a good friendship with your neighbors, just buy some bounce houses and make a wonderful show.

This company stock (ROKE) is set to take off. Worldwide client base in the mobile communications space. See the details at
www.icoft.com/roke.html

Baseball and broadband

It's a silly little metaphor, (but then it is Monday morning) - what's the similarity between baseball and mobile broadband?

More about ePUB and the Sony reader etc. I have done a draft story for OhmyNews as a blog item. Hope to find recent stats on eBooks in Japan and Korea.

http://drupa2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/epub...fter-frankfurt.html

http://www.idpf.org/doc_library/industrystats.htm

an interesting aspect is the claim that the iPhone / iPod is now an eReader because of downloads of Stanza

http://www.forbes.com/2008/10/02/stanza-ki..._ja_1002stanza.html

Should Apple do their own reader for ePub? they seem to think their fans only like music and video, not text.

And will the iPod generation damage their eyes looking at a backlit screen. Maybe they only read for short periods.

Any clues welcome

"I don't know whether to bin the phone, or just forget about PC Suite...
Probably, best to do both."

The first versions of PC Suite that I tried maddened me to the extent that I gave up on both it and Nokia for a few years. However, when I decided to give the E61 a try, I discovered that PC Suite had also come on in leaps and bounds, and had actually become fairly good.

Since then, it's had another major release (v7) and I've acquired an E65, and the two are mostly quite well behaved. (Sometimes the USB connection dies, but it usually comes back to life if I plug the cable into a different USB port - or reboot the PC.)

Perhaps you could try downloading PC Suite 7 from the Nokia website, instead of via its own updater program? Worth a go, anyhow!

PC Suite strangles reporter...

I'm really really fed up with Nokia's PC Suite. It works exactly when it feels like working.

Today, it offered to update itself... and it can't even do that!

OhmyNews have published my story about Online Information

I have included a quote from PCW and also tried to explain why the Mouse should be there next year.

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/ar...&no=381242&rel_no=1

Pterry not well...?

How reliable is "Discworld News" as a source of "horse's mouth" quotes from our favourite comic writer? It's their letter by Pterry which says Alzheimers has struck.

I'm really annoyed. I owe Pterry at least one beer...
 

and how much does the specialist Xrio hardware cost at each end ?

There may be more than one David Tebbutt

http://www.it-director.com/blogs/Teblog/20...ccessful_wikis.html

Not sure

Edited by author 12-07-2007 06:29 AM
couldnt find any pricing information on the site but came accross another bonded adsl solution from a company called xrio - http://www.xrio.com and the spec sheet shows from 2 to 32 internet connection ports.

Sharedband - yes, its for real, as is the as yet unannounced involvement of BT Wholesale. The product is targetted at ISPs to sell to end users and BTw and BT in general could benefit from more ADSL circuits and/or more PSTN lines to carry them. BTw will also be a channel for selling the server software etc required at "the other end" of a Sharedband link.

http://www.sharedband.com/media01_07.html

Phil

Still not sure; but will try to make it. More after the weekend!

Guy,

Information Online is next week.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ah78wfp3rm6x_115g4km35
Do you plan to be there?

I have started a Google doc to become a story for OhmyNews. I hope to find an email address to invite you to edit etc.

Anyone else interested please request.

Will

sorry to hear this Guy

hope recovery continues

best

Will

apologies for taking the eye off the ball, Will; have been v ill. Seem to be back up now

"how to lose 13 lb in ten days..."

Not recommended! Seems to have been two simultaneous virus infestations.

Can't find any news about the Amazon device.

It is more or less a mobile phone. They pay the comms bill and rejected wifi because of patchy cover. You can't phone back other than to order more stuff.

The display can't be off topic surely?

Edited by author 11-18-2007 09:34 AM
David Tebbutt contributes to the IWR blog that will soon turn attention to the Online Info show

http://blog.iwr.co.uk/

Meanwhile another show has just closed

http://www.infotodayblog.com/

It the claims about online information are valid, something can continue meanwhile. As well as something in specific space early December.

I can't believe there can be two! Tebbo has several blogs, of various sorts; does a lot of "meeja training" for execs, and is a past Editor of PCW.

Edited by author 11-02-2007 03:12 PM

Tebbo...

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I first met Tebbo when he and Bruce Sawford approached me to write the news section of PCW. I needed the money: I'd just been given the sack by the new editor of New Scientist!
 

Is this the same David Tebbutt who writes for Information World Review?

http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/comment/220...-few-happy-few-band

He is starting up a coffee club for creatives. Found in Facebook as creativecoffee club, just two words. Could be a venue to start discussion now, just in cas there is something else urgent in December.

Guy thanks for this.

My take is that I should be careful when casting a spell.

For the story so far, refer to
http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/comment/219...y-did-invent-iphone

Yes, you have started in the wrong place.

Pervulsion was a word coined (not invented) as "magic technology" jargon by Jack Vance, SF writer, author of the "Dying Planet" series of books and stories.

In "The Eyes of the Overworld" he uses it to imply a sort of incantatory skill necessary to cast a spell correctly; and if you get the pervulsions misplaced, the outcome may be unsatisfactory.

In the case of Cugel the Clever, he finds himself seized in the claws of a demon, and carried thousands of miles across an impassable sea to a place where he tried to escape from earlier in the story. Very instructive!

http://michaelhalm.tripod.com/id162.htm

pervulsion: repulsive perversion


surely not


come on, give us a clue

suggested link to start from?

Forgot a link for keynote speaker Jimmy Wales

http://search.wikia.com/wiki/Search_Wikia

part of the paid for conference but the content will be widely known by Thursday.

Previously, David Weinberger

http://www.everythingismiscellaneous.com/

Guy,

The content bit is called Online Information

http://www.online-information.co.uk/index.html

The technology bit is at the back

http://www.ims-show.co.uk/

The conference people pay for

http://www.ims-show.co.uk/online07/conference.html

There are also free talks behind the IMS bit,
including a publishing panel on the Thursday, 6th Dec

That could be the best day to be there. Three years ago the panel was quite rude about bloggers in my opinion. Last year there was so much about blogging that even the free sessions clashed.

Hope the Mouse will consider attending. But Guy, to make sure you should schedule some time yourself.

By the way, do people from IT Week ever talk to people from Information World Review? They seem to come from the same premises but maybe this is an illusion nowadays.

The Mouse is about: I'll prod its lazy arse with my toe!

:-)

Got a URL for that conf?

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Guy,

I can't help asking what you think about blogging in general?

Recent writing in IT Week warned about the dangers from amateurs for proper journalism.

http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/comment/219...ser-generated-sites

Maybe there is space for all kinds of levels of authority and polish. Do you regard a blog as provisional? Do you welcome comments? Have you revised an opinion that started in a blog and then became something in print?

Similar issues will come up at Online Information in December. I have mentioned this in the Hunky Mousehole but I fear the mouse is still on holiday. Keynote speaker from the Wikipedia, something is changing.

Edited by author 08-21-2007 07:31 AM

Picking on the phone user

It's "socially unacceptable" to use your phone in public...

Why?

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Body language: don't read too much into it. You're looking at a chap who has been through the mill. He was pilloried by thousands, just because he's black; he's nervous, and we had a TV crew in the room. Goma wasn't really happy about being photographed, and the photographer was having trouble finding the button to take the picture; both of us were starting to wonder if the picture would ever be taken.

Sorry I don't have a larger picture; my web site cuts all images down to 185 pixels to save storage and traffic costs!

Your body language is not very warm in that photo of you with Guy Goma! Would it have killed you to smile or put your arm around Guy? And why can't we see it bigger? http://www.newswireless.net/index.cfm/article/3513

Husbands and Wives

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After a quarrel, a husband said to his wife, "You know, I was a fool when I married you."

She replied, " Yes, dear, but I was in love at the time and didn't notice."

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The bride, upon her engagement, went to her mother and said, "I've found a man just like father!"

Her mother replied, "So what do you want from me, sympathy ?"

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When a woman steals your husband, there is no better revenge, than to
let her keep him.

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Man is incomplete until he is married. Then he is finished.

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A little boy asked his father, "Daddy, how much does it cost to get
married?"

And the father replied, "Don't know son, I'm still paying."

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Young Son: "Is it true, Dad, I heard that in some parts of Africa, a man doesn't know his wife until he marries her?"

Dad: "That happens in every country, son."

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Then there was a man who said, "I never knew what real happiness was,
until I got married ... and then it was too late."

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A woman was telling her friend, "I made my husband a millionaire,"

"And what was he before you married him?", asked the friend.

The woman replied, "A billionaire."

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Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life, thinking they had no faults at all.

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The most effective way to remember your wife's birthday, is to forget it
once.

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Sorry. No idea what came over me...

Snotmail...

It's been weeks since Hotmail incompetence at spam filtering was exposed. Has this service got any better since then?

I don't think so, do you?

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I was on Manhunt, to discuss WiFi hacking.

:-)

To be quite candid, I didn't think the basic threat was the one I would have advised them to focus on. Yes, it's unwise to do internet banking over a public WiFi hotspot that isn't encrypted - the risk that you've logged onto a fake hotspot which is intercepting your every keystroke is real. But it's small!

The real threat is of having an un-encrypted PC without passwords connected to your home WEP or open WiFi point. You may think it silly, but there is a lot of "targeted" hacking of execs with office laptops. While in the office, they are often well protected; but at home, an open access point means a serious hacker can access hard disk contents.

And it can be far more valuable than people think...

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Afternoon Guy - you were at ITV to discuss Manhunt? How intriguing. Please tell us why...

It was not you I had in mind Guy, as a serious 'ES dismisser', and I'm sorry if you think I rant. I am an emotional guy and get deeply affected by the horror-stories I hear of wrecked lives and how others airily dismiss it as all untrue, wrong cause or 'in the mind'. It is making it difficult to get correct treatments and assistance, when yet another sufferer tells me how they were sent to a psychiatrist, even compulsorily sectioned, it does wind all of us up who try to undo the damage.

Biased?!

 Some one told me we at www.es-uk.org.uk are named in a computing magazine as ‘biased’(micro-mart). Presumably they are referring to our attitude to the science on health risks from Wifi’s and the whole microwave shebang.
 We ain’t biased, it is the reality as we experience it we rest our case on.
 I, Rod, as diretor and admimistrator meet, greet, talk to and listen to sentient, clever computer and mobile using workers, parents, business types, and teachers, all regular folks, just about every day of my life. Often they call on Saturdays and Sundays when not working. It is my job, it is what I do for hours everyday. They are all real, and all ill with an extra-sensitive reaction to not just WiFi but ALL electromagnetic fields, EMFs, 400 of them now.
Don’t take my word for it, we don’t make this up and we all wish it wasn’t happening, and you are welcome to talk to them too, just ask and I will try to fit you up with someone, perhaps nearby. Not all feel well enough to use electronic media often, or for long, others are not so bad. Visit some of them yourself please, try Troy for instance, I have never met him, he is totally independent of us, but at 17 years old has worked out for himself what is happening to his health, see him at: http://www.electrosensitivity.org/mystory.htm

Another who fell ill with EHS, and is a real creative loss wrote ‘The Passenger’ on Iggy Pop’s ‘Lust for Life’ album, some say one of the best rock songs ever, but I don’t want to start another argument, believe me I have enough of those with ‘scientists’ who will not even talk direct to those who are ill and know what is causing it. Ricky Gardiner has a website and talks about it at: http://freespace.virgin.net/ricky.gardiner/emf/emf1.htm

We have 50 personal stories like these on our website, I laboriously typed them all up and html coded them, they are all real, but not everyone wants to risk the ridicule from some ignorant quarters so do not allow real names. Others have a thicker skin. Go to
http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/personal%20stories.htm

It is very sad and emotional often, at both ends of the phone line for some ES are new to realising they will be lucky to get their lives back on track, because they were, are really, just like all of you who sniffily dismiss this ES reaction. They simply find it incredible and hard to believe, even when they have it initially. Just like you, and me three years ago when we started.
None of them wanted it, the new people sometimes cry as they realise they cannot carry on as they did before, schmoozing through life with all the fun and electronic conveniences. It hits people very hard, that is why we want to warn, urgently, and why Panorama and the BBC agree and had Sir William Stewart asking for new research if we are compulsorily exposing everyone’s children in schools to this new blast of signals.
 Most sensitives are aghast at what their reaction means in terms of making a living, we have Paul Collins just about managing to be a surveyor as long as his boss does not insist on time in the office, Jason Gleave with a transport business his lady is keeping going, Dr Rod Williams who had up to 65 employees in a computer consultancy now forced out and building an electro-sanitised house. Ricky who has serious difficulty entering a studio nowadays.
 We are only ‘biased’ against whatever science says this is not happening, simply because it has to be wrong, as it patently is happening.
Elsewhere I was criticised for making ‘mere assertions’, not so. I always point to the science, but yes it IS the science that fits with the reality as we know it is. What is the use of ‘science’ not in accord with the facts? It isn’t science, its mouthing doggerel dick-squawk not worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. I wish I could put it more strongly, these people and the sensitivity they are cursed with which is getting them down are as real as you and me. It is false and biased science which says otherwise.

COULD IT BE YOU?

Frankly, that is unlikely, only a few per cent react sensitively, in Sweden where it is officially recognised surveys show around two per cent, but some do go higher for some low level less serious reactions. Most, 80% we find, of those with ES have a previous history of environmental sensitivities of one kind or another, often to chemicals as MCS, others with sensitive dietary or skin conditions.

The fact is more and more individuals not Luddites or anti-something or other, but computer-using and geeky types too, are finding their threshold, if there is one, for resisting the accumulative health effects of EMFs, is crossed and symptoms result. Low level and non-specific at first so dismissable as temporary or 'other causes' or whatever and GPs agree with this, and indeed we are finding strong associations to do with the immune system being compromised, some of that ‘other causes’ is all in the mix. Continuing excessive exposure, and that ‘excessive’ depends on the unique tipping point of the individual, results in the symptoms all joining up day after day until you never feel fully well, and then get worse.
 Then it dawns “Halleujah! Something is wrong, I must be sensitive to something that is getting at me”. Typically then everyone flounders around for an explanation with more and more jigsaw pieces falling into place. We are getting thousands of website hits as worried types puzzle around 'could this be it?' And for some it is, a minority, a few per cent we think, and very unhappy they are: life, work, hobbies, fun, families all destabilised in a nightmare that is real. And bugger-all help coming from anywhere apart from us, and us unresourced telling the Dept of Health, George Hooker and Hilary Walker are the supposed radiation department, that we are doing their job for them, and no-one wants to take on their proper responsibility.
So now we say this ES reaction is politically incorrect, the govt took the money and no-one but an independent handful of us dare say it was reckless. We all took the industry word at face value and they turned a blind eye and worse to the health risks because they have an absolute goldrush. You may as well ask publicans or brewers if beer is a good idea, or car salesmen if we need more roads. Even knowing there will be alcoholics and traffic deaths and injuries they will still say yes. Do bears s**t in woods? Is the Pope a catholic? Did Mandy Rice-Davies say “Well they would say that, wouldn’t they” about those married rich men denying they had had a ‘bit on the side’ way back in the sixties. Will the industry deny these health effects are real or significant? Has any industry representative dared to approach us or responded positively to any health complaints with a listening ear, as they should. Have they heck?
Its enough to make you cross when you hear the suffering day after day and the silly scientific arguments from those who never try to meet and talk to the real thing, actual people, are they not evidence of the most positive kind.

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Pub? What pub?

I put it down to pre-launch nerves on Kieren's part. He was just flustered, poor lamb.

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You won't catch me!

Phishing... and how to avoid it.

Or, maybe not...

I repeat that I quite accept the possibility of "non-thermal" effects on human cells; I just don't think it's enough to say "There is an effect" before we go on to say: "Therefore these symptoms are caused by WiFi or cellphones."

Actually, I'm happy to accept that people are affected by WiFi or cellphones! - I just don't think that it's the same sort of effect as you get from (say) sunshine on skin.

Goldsworthy's treatise is worth reading, but states a lot of things as fact which don't ring true to me, and is "a new theory" which, I suggest, requires a lot of verification before it gets accepted.

We'll see.

"What I'm suggesting here is that nobody has yet come up with an explanation which actually impresses me, for WHY they have these symptoms. Panorama quoted a researcher who found that there are effects on the chromosomes. Fine! - but that damage is commonplace, and the symptoms are NOT headaches!"

Guy, how about Dr. Andrew Goldsworthy's explanation at http://www.hese-project.org/hese-uk/en/pap..._bio_weak_em_07.pdf

This starts:-
"There have been many instances of harmful effects of electromagnetic fields from such seemingly innocuous devices as mobile phones, computers, power lines and domestic wiring. They include an increased risk of cancer, loss of fertility and unpleasant physiological symptoms. The power and mobile phone companies, hoping to avoid litigation, often assert that because the energy of the fields is too low to give significant heating, they cannot have any biological effect. However, the evidence that
electromagnetic fields can have “non‐thermal” biological effects is now
overwhelming. In this article, I will explain how these effects arise. I have included key references that should enable the more inquisitive reader to delve deeper. If you do, you will often find contradictory assertions and that the reproducibility of several experiments is only mediocre. As we will see, this is almost certainly because of differences in the genetic and physiological condition of the biological material and its ability to defend itself against electromagnetic insults. Defence mechanisms have evolved by natural selection over countless millions of years of exposure to natural electromagnetic radiation, such as that from thunderstorms. They can often hide the underlying effects of man‐made fields so we do not always see them in our experiments. We therefore have to concentrate on the experiments that give positive results if we are to discover the mechanisms. In this context, negative findings (frequently published in work financed by the telecoms and power companies) have no meaning."

With plenty of referenced studies in between, summing up with:-
"In the latter part of this article, I have explained how weak electromagnetic fields can interact with cell membranes to weaken them and make them more permeable. As with all theories, it will be subject to modification and refinement as time goes by, but some facts are already inescapable. There is undeniable experimental proof that weak
electromagnetic fields can remove bound calcium ions from cell membranes. There is also no doubt that bound calcium ions are essential for the stability of these membranes. Consequently, their loss will increase temporary pore formation under the mechanical stresses from pressure differences within the cell and abrasion by its moving contents. This very simple conclusion can account for virtually all of the known biological effects of electromagnetic fields, including changes in metabolism,
the promotion of cancer, genetic damage, loss of fertility, deleterious [harmful] effects on brain function and the unpleasant symptoms experienced by electrosensitive individuals."

I believe that the above is a worthy mechanism for the health effects people are experiencing with WiFi etc.

As for Panorama, this excellent programme really speaks for itself. Credit must go to Panorama's researchers, and to Paul Kenyon, the presenter.

How anyone viewing could doubt the integrity of the presentation and the risk to health, is beyond our comprehension.

The most important fact to come out of this programme is the stance being taken by Professor Sir William Stewart, Chairman of the Health Protection Agency. It is he who states quite categorically that there may well be a problem with WiFi technology and that an immediate review is called for.

Whatever the so-called experts (see below) might think, Sir William is a past Chairman of the NRPB (National Radiological Protection Board) and his credentials give him the greatest credibility in this debate.

An associate spoke with an employee of a leading Telecoms Company the following morning and he admitted that his company had, in fact, encouraged employees to vote that the Wi Fi computer system offered no danger to health, as part of the BBC survey. No doubt they were also encouraged to write comments to ridicule the programme makers and say "how disgusted" they were.

This is typical of the tactics these companies will use to defend their business interests and win public support.

Lack of honesty and the pursuit of profit is the name of their game.

Similarly, many of the so-called experts brought in to ridicule the programme were nothing of the sort:-

Prof Malcolm Sperrin, Director of medical physics and clinical engineering, Royal Berkshire NHS Trust. He might know his X-rays (ionising radiation) but not his WiFi or microwaves (non-ionising radiation). He is linked to the notorious Science Media Centre - where the Guardian and the BBC online get their scientists from... Two of its major corporate funders are Vodafone and the Mobile Operators Association!

Prof Will J Stewart UCL and University of Southampton, Member of The Institution of Engineering and Technology, Communication Sector Panel he is also a member of the IEEE. Previously chief scientist at Marconi - a large Telecoms firm. here is a link to some of the staff he was working on at Marconi. He could probably build WiFi transmitters, but wouldn't have a clue about its biological effects.

Dr Paddy Regan, University of Surrey, Guildford Lecturer in nuclear and radiation physics. His expertise is clearly in the ionising part of the spectrum (i.e. NOT microwaves or WiFi). He isn't qualified to comment on Wi-Fi.

Prof David Coggan is a member of the Medical Research Council Epidemiology. He seems to always be wheeled out when it comes to minimising the potential health effects of any pollutant. Last year it was antimony in plastic water bottles. A few years back, it was pesticides. He was the Chairman of the Independent Advisory Committee on Pesticides. He ws also involved in at least one study financed by the MTHR in a supervisory role.

I have read the article ‘Dowsing, WiFi sensitivity and Scaremongering' by Guy Kewney.

He is wrong. The fact that people do not have a sense for environmental non-thermal non-ionising electromagnetic fields (EMF) (like eyes for light and skin cells for warmth) does not prove that no cells would ever react to EMF and cause an effect.

Recently it was found that EMF triggers the ERK cascade in cells ( http://www.biochemj.org/bj/imps/abs/BJ20061653.htm ), it was found that tomato plants react to EMF ( http://www.landesbioscience.com/journals/p...icle/vianPSB1-2.pdf ), EMF affects cognitive performance and the waking electroencephalogram
( http://www.landesbioscience.com/journals/p...icle/vianPSB1-2.pdf ), and so on.

So, there is reason to believe that the testimonies of persons connecting electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) and EMF can be true. A simple double blind provocation test does not prove the contrary.

Kewney is right about the scaremongering, but he is wrong about the impossibility of cells reacting to EMF, triggering some mechanism, causing some effect. A subtle effect followed by pain as an autonomous alarm signal. Kewney is right, actually, that physical changes in the body can cause damage. EMF could cause self-destruction of the body by its own energy.

It is false to compare this to the cells of the retina and the light of a torch. Light has been around since long ago; the present EMF have not. Retinal cells have specialized by evolution; just cells of the body have not.

Yes, there should be proper, scientific investigations, not the simple double blind or cohort studies. First of all, the testifying persons seriously suffering from EHS should be investigated.

It is not true that the WHO's official tests and official policy says there's no reason to suspect low-level radio signals of causing health problems. First of all, the WHO does not perform tests at all. Secondly, the WHO says that no scientific basis currently exists for a connection between EHS and exposure to EMF and that the cause of EHS is not known (WHO Factsheet 296). There is no scientific basis currently for any cause of EHS.

Yes, we need investigations. True, probably the call of Sir William Stewart will not be followed by proper investigations.

If it was about pollen sensitivity, the investigations would be done. Why are the industry causing the EMF environmental pollution and the State anxious? Probably the result of investigations will be that indeed, some persons can develop serious impairments caused by an autoimmune reaction to the effects of EMF.

What is the problem? Just help the persons suffering from EHS, like we do take care of road victims. Just take some preventive measures. That's all that might happen, probably, so anxious people like Guy Kewney should relax and accept the fact that EHS exists and, given the testimonies and scientific knowledge, is triggered by EMF indeed.

Jan

Rod if you can find a single message from me saying "pull yourself together" or anything like it, I'll both apologise, and reply to your rant. As far as I can tell, the only comment I've made about electro sensitive people is one which suggests that they are really ill, and suffer real pain.

What I'm suggesting here is that nobody has yet come up with an explanation which actually impresses me, for WHY they have these symptoms. Panorama quoted a researcher who found that there are effects on the chromosomes. Fine! - but that damage is commonplace, and the symptoms are NOT headaches!

Sorry, but water's actual resonances are at much higher frequencies, and microwave ovens work by dielectric heating. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven

More of Mr Read's (/m44) charmingly sesquipedalian yet oddly ungrammatical ramblings can be read at http://www.badscience.net/?p=241#comment-5995

While nobody is denying these symptoms occur, sensible people will reserve judgement until there is more than anecdote to back up the link to EM (even anecdotes with multiple exclamation marks are not sufficient). Much like MMR, this issue has created a bunch of ever more shrill patient advocacy groups, whose, possibly legitimate, dissatisfaction with people who don't believe them has caused them too see every contrary or even neutral opinion as part of a vast conspiracy. One cannot do better than to point to xkcd's response: http://www.xckd.com/c258.html

Mr. Kewney: Since I was briefly mentioned in the "ES" matter, I offer an observation: Though I'm unable to declare on the possible damage that might be caused by EM radiation such as that used by cellphones, a test of those who claim ES, can be easily and definitively carried out. I've received all sorts of mail from those who say they can immediately detect the presence of a switched-on cell phone, and yet not one of them has agreed to take a simple test for this ability. Such folks as Debbie Bird -- see tinyurl.com/ysz4fx - seem unwilling to prove their claim, but it was ever thus.

One hesitates to be thought rude, but really, has common sense gone out of the window? This ES issue really is an 'idiot magnet' and the idiots throw scientific requirements and methodological paraphernalia around as if they were the psychologists at Essex or Kings doing the 'Travesty of Science' ES studies.
Yes, as someone here says, until you get EHS or know someone very well who does, it is a strange concept to get your head around, almost unbelievable.
We at ES-UK find the pain of disbelief and isolation, the rupturing of the stability of work, important relationships, even your home, is as bad as the physical EHS reaction itself.
Simply, you do not look ill, maybe some rash or reddening is all. As it is mostly a collection low-level, non-specific symptoms others suffer from time to time, the 'pull yourself together brigade' make absolute hay. It is this unsympathetic response which the sneerers and naysayers, often with vested interest behind them, have found easy to encourage. Dogmatic GPs have caused a lot of unecessary anguish accidentally, but some try really hard to sort it.
Soon we expect malingerers may try to capitalise on it, but not so far.
Let us hope we have made some kind of breakthrough in a process of 'normalisation' of what we cannot really even call an illness. Yes the EHS are ill, but only because a healthy sensitive body is rejecting an invisible toxic soup in the environment. One with wider ecological effects too, across nature, it is very very serious. Probably we are all getting coshed but do not sense it as do the sensitive. Certainly during an extended power cut many acknowledge feelings of lightness, a kind of light-headed relief of pressure. Our kids get quite noticeably giddy.
Much work is to be done, big research, disentangling safe frequencies and signals if such exist, devising therapeutic interventions, at least respite 'safe' houses, shielding, removal of some masts. From where will come the size and bucks for the pressure needed against the inertia and denial which suits so many? And is implicit in the use of 'hysteria' above, as if there was exaggeration ongoing.
Pioneer and Nobel laureate Dr Becker thought one cancer per two people per lifetime would prove inadequate, maybe two per person might be. Then the health risks from all EMF/MW would be accorded the correct balanced proportionately serious response.
Wonderful convenient stuff the 'leccy', the fundamental force of nature electromagnetism, we have had a hundred years of playing with it since releasing it from Pandora's box, now it is biting back us apes like '2001 A Space Odyssey'. "Bang Bang Maxwell's Silver Hammer comes down upon our head..." and he did it here, in Cambridge, with equations. Doubt he would get the funding today, just like us. Ho Hum.

Try this, from just one of our 400 sufferers, nearly all those demanding science have never met the real thing, an actual electrosensitive.
 The Old Mill, Beeston, Nottingham

Brian Stein is the Chief Executive, boss, of Samworth Brothers. A £500 million pa. turnover chilled food manufacturer based in the Midlands manufacturing quality chilled foods for all the major retailers.
MBA from the Open University.
Chairs Leicestershire Cares and Leicester Common Purpose.
Married with 3 children
A sports fanatic, bridge player and keen Liverpool supporter.
As a result of his job, a very heavy mobile phone user for 15 years who became ES at the end of 2000. He runs the very large business with an electricity free office and a highly efficient secretary he says.

Originally an email to the Guardian newspaper, Dr Ben Goldacre ‘Badscience’ columnist.
This is commonsense not ‘rocket science’.

“Sirs,

Having been copied in on some of the emails bouncing around between yourselves, Rod Read and Alasdair Philips, I thought I might add my two penny worth.

Your arguments on the face of it are very sound but I think lacking some Common Sense and certainly lacking any serious investigation into the subject.

Over ten years ago Dr George Carlo discovered while working for the cell phone industry that microwaves damaged cells, damaged DNA and damaged the blood brain barrier. He carried out the experiments on cell cultures and repeated them on rats. That’s when the cell phone industry pulled the plug on his research. What did the media say about this? Almost no comments. Why? The first serious investigation into wireless technology and the industry gets away with stopping the research when it tells it something it didn’t want to know.

A dozen years later, we finally get around to repeating these experiments officially and what do we find. Exactly the same (The Reflex Project sponsored by the EU at Universities in Berlin, Vienna, Stuk, Bologna, Milan, Hanover). Microwaves are damaging cells in cultures. What does the cell phone industry say to these experiments?

1. It’s only in ‘cell’ cultures! So it doesn’t mean anything.

2. No ‘people’ are affected.

Now this is when it requires some Common Sense. Experimentation is showing we have a problem. Damaging cells. The industry and the scientists have been saying for years this is not possible. Common Sense – the scientists are Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. What is the consequence for this science if they are wrong?

There are thousands if not millions of people across all the countries that have developed wireless technology that are now becoming electrically hypersensitive.

Common Sense. Damage being done to cells and people becoming ES. Maybe there is a connection. This ES condition has only been around for 20/30 years, approximately the length of time that wireless technology has been around.

I work in the food industry. Approximately one year ago a food scandal hit the headlines, Sudan 1 in ready meals. The company I work for had to throw £1/4 M of ready meals away because a scientist had shown that rats eating tons of Sudan 1 developed cancer.

Common Sense. Microwaves, at many times less than the legal limit are destroying cells in rats. The mobile phone industry says it’s not a problem. Guardian agrees not a problem. Sudan 1 damages rats at thousands of times above the permitted level. Problem. Recall all the product. Headlines in newspapers - Ready Meals cause cancer alert.

If I as a food manufacturer had used the argument that the mobile phone industry had used, I think that I would have hit the headlines. If I had refused to destroy stock with Sudan 1 in it, what would you have thought of me? What would your headlines have said? Why are you applying double standards for the mobile phone industry? Why do ‘you’ let them get away with their deceit? Might ‘you’ be being influenced, like the Government, without even realising it, that they spend a lot of money with you?

Common Sense

Multiple Schlerosis.
Chronic fatigue syndrome.
Fibromyalgia.
Multiple Chemical Sensitivity.
Light Sensitivity.
Hyper Acusis.
Pea Nut Allergy.

All started off according to our medical and scientific community being psychosomatic. They were wrong, wrong, wrong.

Common Sense

You could write a book on all the things that human beings can be sensitive to. Pollen, chemicals, medicines, light, dark, pea nuts. This list is almost endless.

So, pea nuts can kill us but the one thing that no one can be sensitive to, is putting microwaves to your head for 20 years. This does not even sound logical.

All these things devised by god or nature can kill you but microwaves devised by man, at these extraordinary levels, can’t do you any harm?????

Isn’t that what they said about Radiation, X Rays, and Pylons?

Do you not have any Common Sense?

Newspapers have been the scourge of establishment. Forcing scientists to admit the truth about food scares, BSE, Global Warming, the ‘cover ups’, you know better than me, are too numerous to mention. But microwaves to the head, and all these people having their lives ruined, no cover up. Whiter than white, all these people are deluded.
Mass hysteria.

FACT

I used a mobile phone for 15 years. 14 years not a problem, no issues.

15th year. Severe pain in my head and ear, only when I put the mobile to my head. Why is my pain, psychosomatic?

Put the phone to my head. Instant pain, take it away and pain goes away. Problem. What is happening??? This can’t happen!

Although I cut down on using my mobile I did not stop completely. Why, good question. I was assured by all it was only temporary and like a fool I believed the scientists, the medics, the media.

Then, one day putting the mobile to my head an explosion in my ear. So much pain I could not bear the mobile to my head. This can’t happen! Thereafter, the weird experience I had over the twelve months earlier using a mobile phone, I started to experience in front of my computer, in front of my TV and in my car.

This developed over time to an ordinary phone, video, washing machine, dish washer etc. Whatever damage the mobile phones/microwaves, can do had been done to me.

When you become hypersensitive to something, it is not confusing, it is not a case of I don’t feel well, I wonder what it is, can it be my microwave!!! Its use a phone for 5 minutes – pain in ear and head. Don’t use the phone – no pain. Use the phone – pain. Don’t use the phone – no pain. After you have done this experiment on yourself a few hundred times, it becomes more than a coincidence. I have been studying ES for 5 years. Every hour, of every day, of every month for 5 years. Believe me it is not confusing.

Wishing to prove my condition I signed up for the tests at Kings College and had to pull out when I found what they wanted to do to me. I did suggest a less invasive way of proving this but was ignored. Last year I signed up for the test at Essex University and attended the first of three sessions to prove this condition. I ignored my cynicism because the questionnaire seemed to be only concerned with my financial state and levels of stress. I ignored the fact that the people were psychologists, not scientists. I ignored the fact that they couldn’t tell me the level of strength of the mast. I ignored the fact that they had not consulted anyone ES when devising the tests and I went ahead with the first one hour session.

THE RESULT

I have been made permanently worse; I had to pull out of the remaining tests. Although double blind I knew that the mast was on. How, I bled internally for two weeks. That is what happens to me when I get too close to a mast for too long. Bleeding internally, can this be psychosomatic I ask myself. Perhaps my gut has decided to join in on this misinformation. Maybe my gut is in league with my brain in deluding me. I went to my doctor when I first bled. He referred me to a Specialist. The Specialist was very chatting and friendly until I told him why I was bleeding. I then became the enemy. A lunatic. I had a barium enema and a colonoscopy. All clear.

When I asked therefore why I could be bleeding (I was bleeding before and after the investigation) I was told by the Specialist in a very aggressive voice “THERE IS NO REASON WHY YOU SHOULD BE BLEEDING”. He didn’t want to see my stool, didn’t want to check the most obvious way of telling if I was being truthful or not. End of Examination, Go Home!
That is what it is like being ES. The tests have been devised so that the people who are best able to prove this condition are precluded. People find it inconvenient to be more thorough. Don’t ask the obvious questions, simply dismiss it and trust the scientists investigating this, sponsored by the mobile phone industry. No reason to be concerned.

In theory, this should not happen.

If damaged by a drug, I don’t think the drug industry saying we didn’t do any research into this drug because in theory it should be safe, would be good enough. The mobile phone industry gets away with it. They are not required to do any safety research because the NRPB (HPA) are responsible for this and of course they are totally independent and impartial like the newspaper industry. Who do not want to rock the boat.

When I challenge scientists, politicians, health industry, NRPB, Media, that this is not difficult to prove I can prove it. They change the subject. I could go on for hours but why bother.

Sadly, you and your family have to become affected to rock the boat. I hope you have the good grace to apologise in a few years time when your collective incompetence results in millions of people being affected because that is what will happen. Correction, this is what is happening while you don’t use your common sense or investigate this seriously.

If the research is correct, that it causes geno-toxin effects, single and double stranded DNA breaks, damage to chromosomes and reductions in melatonin, how will this be detected in humans when doctors, specialists, scientists etc refuse to examine us seriously. The best any ES person has had is a two minute examination and the assurances we are perfectly OK.

If these things are happening, what symptoms are we allowed to have? Please advise me. What symptoms am I allowed to have if I am suffering from the above!!!

Meanwhile, incidents of brain tumours, mouth tumours, ear tumours, eye tumours, once very rare, are all suddenly appearing and increasing. Probably psychosomatic.


Wake up.”


Brian Stein 17.5.06

Since becoming sensitised with this broadening accumulative reaction Brian Stein has become a trustee of the Radiation Research Trust and Chair of Scientific Perspective, and spends much of his life trying to persuade people of the dangers of wireless technology.

ElectroSensitivity-UK registered charity 1103018.Rod Read M.Phil.,(Cantab), Dip Psych Couns., Cert.Ed. director
Trustees: Professor of Human Radiation Effects Dr Denis Henshaw, Dr David Dowson MD., ChB, Jean Philips BA. Scientific advice from: Alasdair Philips, BSc(Eng), DAgE, MIAgE, MInstPhys., Keith Jamieson Dip.AAS. Bsc(Hons) RIBA. Inst.Ph., Environmental Consultant. Dr John.Rogers. ONC: HND: FMAA., and others. This is not a private communication and may be circulated more widely in pursuance of our registered aims of supporting sufferers and educating the public about all aspects of electrosensitivity.

Re: Dowsing, WiFi sensitivity, and scaremongering - enough, already!

Guy I sent You Evidence and You didn't reply

I know several electrosensitive people - some are/were in IT and they are real people with real symptoms. Their symptoms differ in severity, but are consistent in the types they have. The symptoms disappear when they are away from microwave sources (or electrical sources if they are severely electrosensitive).

Wi-fi is yet another microwave-based technology which will have the same potential to cause the noted health effects of other weak electromagnetic fields.

If you open up your minds to the possibilities - however much they may threaten your lifestyle - you may actually discover that the world around you is somewhat more complex than Physicists and Engineers like to admit. Since we are not Gods, we do not know or understand everything, and should approach each problem with an open mind. Real, Independent, Scientists should do this and not approach a study with a conclusion in mind.

Mike Repacholi, ex-WHO, ex-ICNIRP, who was featured in the Panorama programme in favour of WiFi, is a Chernobyl "denialist", and is sometimes described as "possibly the most evil man in the World" by other researchers. He enjoys a fine lifestyle provided by Mobile Phone Operators and other Industry bodies.

Guy - I don't actually recall getting a reply from the last set of Research links that I sent you:-

However, undeterred, I thought that with the current spate of News reports it would be well worth sending you a link to Doctor Andrew Goldworthy from Imperial College's latest paper on "The Biological Effects of Weak Electromagnetic Fields" [ http://www.hese-project.org/hese-uk/en/pap..._bio_weak_em_07.pdf ]

There is also a fairly comprehensive article from Powerwatch entitled "Dispelling the Wireless Myths" at [ http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20070424_wifi_myths.asp ].

The publication of the SAGE report (critical of powerlines and masts) at [ http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/20070429_sage_comments.asp ] and the recent leak of the 2000 ECOLOG report ("suppressed" by T-Mobile at about the same time that the Stewart Report was published in the UK, with the conclusion that exposure limits should be 1000 times lower than they currently are in the UK) at [ http://www.hese-project.org/hese-uk/en/niemr/ecologsum.php ].

I must say that on further reflection your reviews have tended not to be so heavily biased as some of your colleagues. I have commented on two of the worst at my new-ish Blog at http://mastsanity.blogspot.com/. I apologise again for my initial harshness.

I can see by this article that you are still as sceptical as I was when I first read up on the subject, until I had that "epiphany" moment.

Run AWAY!!!

Is all this really worth it for a web site design tool?

Go to Wordpress.com! Much easier, and no strings!

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I'd be really interested to see if something like Exradia can help solve the bee problem...

Come on, Mr. Eiriksson: The "scientific background" is some samples that are related to the matter and gives some hints about some very specific phenomenons. Yes, I looked at the overview. More than this, I sourced down many of the studies and looked into the abstracts and more. This is more than most people will do, because the contents of the studies is pretty scientificish stuff. One needs scientific education and some time to even point out the text parts describing the circumstances, actual tests, the bottom line and how all this is related to Wi-Guard technology. I would be ashamed to come up with such vague "scientific background" like this even for the simple fact that I am living. Only 2 or 3 of the sources relate to the EMX/Wi-Guard technology, and these only test very specific configurations, like one frequency having impact on one specific type of cell, and this effect can be minimized. That's fine. Does not proof the product works. Because it has not been tested yet! And: Who financed the study? I have read in other critical sources (and I myself have proof concerning one of these studies), that they have been paid for by EMX. Nothing bad about that. If there would be any third party sources. There are not. 16 years of research, and these 6 to 9 studies is all the company can come up with? Since years, these few studies are the "scientific background". Most of which have not tested the technology at all, and as far as they did, did not come up with much of relevant results. Some hints, yes. The fact that these vague hints are labelled "proof" is, for me, good proof that something is wrong with the "proof".
Exradia did not "acquire" the whole deal (maybe they did in legal terms). Exradia is a 100% offspring of EMX Corporation.
A protoype testing should involve a mobile phone and a Wi-Guard battery model ready for the production line (or coming from it) and a relevant sample of human body cells, set up in a laboratory with sufficient measurement tools plus neutral, or at least, well-respected scientists. So that mobile phone industry or anybody else might go and try challenge the results. Put one of these things into a test environment, bring up data: that's proof. Then let WHO or whoever judge about it. That would be proof. Half a handful of paid studies testing specific details of a general hypothetical principle over the course of 16 years, is not.
And what's your point about the court case example? That mobile phone industry act unresponsible, don't care for long-term effects of their technology? Well, this does not need much proofing. But anybody who wants to build business on this would have to proof he's doing better.

The original storyline of EMX was, the basic principle of the technology was found while researching in US Army's Walter Reed Institute for ways of protecting soldiers against microwave radiation. The scientist left the institute and put a patent on what he's found. Which opens up some questions, like: why did the US Army not think it's worth to keep these results? Why let they just go of it? Maybe they just did not see that somebody of their personnel had found a reliable way to hit the goal.

Oh, by the way: I don't own a microwave oven. My cell phone is shut off most of the time (my bill is about 2 to 5 Euros a month). I don't use any wireless stuff except FM radio and a bit of infrared in my home. Just no use for it.

J.P:
There has been plenty of prototype testing. As I mentioned, ExRadia has acquired the whole deal from EMX that had loads of independent testing done. Look here for an overview:
http://www.emxbiochipscience.com/docs/scientific-background.html

As I see it, your "court case example" is a bit upside down.
If it wasn't for the unbelievable stupidity and greed of the wireless industry and the complete failure of governmental agencies to regulate it - there would be no Exradia.
The Wireless industry should have made damn sure that artificial above-natural levels of microwaves didn't cause harm to humans and animals before mass-marketing microwave based communication technologies.
There was NO health-related pre-market testing of mobile phones, cordless phones of wi-fi or the like and yet the wireless industry continues to insist that their products are 100% safe, even for vulnerable children.
And noone in authority has the balls to challenge them - in order to protect the economy (instead of peoples health).
They never bothered testing because they were in such a hurry to profit. Even back then there were plenty of red warning flags against microwaves radiation. As early as the 50's Russian scientists had warned about the "microwave sickness syndrome" that they were observing in radar personnel.
The exact same pattern of illness has become bleedingly obvious in our modern wireless societies today - and it's only getting worse.
See here for a step-by-step diagram of adverse health effects from exposure to microwave radiation:
http://www.next-up.org/pdf/Diagram_of_mech...F_exposure_csif.pdf

If you have any respect for the well being of yourself and your neighbors then you should get rid of all your microwave based transmitters because those in the vicinity are unknowingly affected aswell.

/Henrik

If Exradias stuff is "solid" - why isn't there any prototype that has been tested by neutral scientists. Pretty uncommen, to market an electronic consumer gadget without testing the actual product. And if it works, oublish the results.
Even if the basic principle is solid - this does not mean the product is.
Though I respect Mr Lawlers business background, I doubt that too many companies will fall for this. What would happen in a court case? Mobile phone company (or employer) says they did everything they could buying Wi-Guard. They believed Exradia's promise. Now next is Exradia to proof it works. They'll say: We promised as we said, and (clever) judges will find out, nothing has been promised. Case is back at the employer who fell for this. Maybe case is dismissed because employer management was just dumb and dumbness cannot be trialed. Then, Exradia's business more or less is done with.
Until this time, they can make some dollars. A real trademark for reponsible free market economy, this is.
If you think free market is a good thing and have some responsibility left for your fellow-beings, you cannot buy Wi-Guard.

I've copied that message to our main pages, as I think it's important it reaches a wider audience...

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Where Exradia's tech comes from

Hi Mr. Kewney & all.

James Fintain Lawler got the Exradia technology from a bunch of Danes and a jewish scientist. The people behind EMX corporation, the original patent holders of the now Exradia "noise-field" technology are J.P. Folsgaard Bak, his wife Ulla Bak and scientist Dr. Thomas Magnussen. The inventor and original patent holder is Theodore Litowitz.
Being half danish myself, Ulla Bak contacted me last year because I'm active in the movement to stop electromagnetic pollution and I had helped with scientific info in a lawsuit against a UMTS provider.
In that lawsuit I had, together with Dr. Gerard Hyland (the plaintiffs expert witness) provided evidence that turned out to verify the principle behind the EMX technology (ie: coherent pulsy signal = bioeffect and random noisy signal = not so severe bioeffect).
The EMX people noticed this and got in touch.
They sent me their entire scientific portfolio - a regular brick of a publication. It shows that the EMX noise-field principle has been verified to decrease the non-thermal bioeffects of mobile-phones, wifi etc. by at least 7 different independent research facilities. Every time it was found that superimposing a random noise field onto a mobile-phone signal decreased the stress reactions in cells exposed. So, I say the EMX Exradia stuff is pretty solid.
I don't think it's a complete solution, but it's a start...

Some older EMX stuff that explains the sci is available here:
http://www.who.int/peh-emf/meetings/archiv...per13klintestam.pdf

ICNIRP thinks you are just a bag of water - don't you think you deserve better?

Quad Play

Word is that Rupert Murdoch isthinking mobile. I'd be very interested to hear from you if you have more than rumour! - comment here, or press the Contact button...

 

iPhone again?

So here we are, NOT discussing the iPhone but instead, trying to work out if Steve Jobs understands the stock market.

Oh no, not again...

No more News24 television flashbacks? Please?
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Manic Jay Miner

Anybody else remember Jay Miner from Amiga days? Was he dragon fixated?
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OK, it's clearly impossible that I went earlier than you did, and wrote the piece before Telewest got around to putting up the status report, so you are good and wise and kind, and I'm a poor grovelling little peon, unworthy of your company.

i went to the page and clicked on the link that said 'tv'. clearly i'm not A usability guru like you.

I'm glad you found a hyperlink. I'll just have to ask you to believe that if I'd have seen one, I'd have posted it?

Having gone to the bother of dialling tech support a dozen times, and searching the web site for more than half an hour, why would you believe that I deliberately pretended there was no information?

Never mind...
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it was there at the time - that's how I knew what was going on . Is a hyperlink is a bit complex for you .

I may be some time...

There are lessons. which are hard. Hard lessons. How often do I have to learn this one?

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It's there NOW, sure. Do you know what the date is?

What a rubbish article it's been on their status page for hours

http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/status/serviceissue.do?ticket=396885

and i don't see it saying 'no issues' anywhere there for TVDRIVE

Busy fixing it!

If you have a Telewest TV service, then it's officially broken even if they can't manage to get an announcement up on the Web.

I can't help wondering if they do this deliberately. After all, if they made a habit of posting disaster stories on their Web pages, all the world's press would have to do would be to subscribe to their RSS feed.

This way, you only find out if you personally have the problem...
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No updates to see here...

Firefox is now available in new version - though someone should tell Mozilla, it seems...

Edited by author 10-21-2006 08:15 AM
what the hell are you talking about "to the BOFH who originally exposed him"

For gods sake man, wake up!!

The organiser has done absolutely nothing wrong to be exposed for...

If you have a problem with the Tequila girls fine. But you are in the (unfortunately not so silent) minority

Edited by author 10-21-2006 11:47 AM
We can all take something out of context to make someone look bad, it is not hard, so lets use the authors own tactics against him.


It seems journalist Guy J Kewney doesn't like ColdFusion developers or hetrosexual men much.

Guy says:-
"The next Cold Fusion developer conf in Croydon, just South of London, will be attended by 99.9% heterosexual males, that's official"



Quite a bold statement, or is that just wishful thinking from someone that doesn't like non hetrosexual males, he then goes on to say.

"One developer (married, straight) wrote to suggest that some people (grownups?) might find the evening entertainment not entirely to their taste."



Is that because .01% of the attendees is not hetrosexual, surely not. Guy also thinks that all us developers are a bunch of sleezy perverts juding by this statement.

"all Cold Fusion developers would find an opportunity to "chat up tequila girls"



As if that wasn't bad enough, he then goes on to imply that we are all impotent.

"male programmers might not necessarily be "licensed to shag"



And then some more queer bashing, this chap really doesn't like homosexuals does he.

"if you don't want to grope a Tequila Slammer Girl, there's a simple and unavoidable explanation: you're queer:"



and a bit more, sexist as well as a queer basher.

" if you don't want to get pissed and make a prat of yourself leering at the chest of a rent-a-boobs gurly, there's only one explanation: you're a horrid poof."



Lets not leave it there says guy as he continues with a bit more developer bashing, supposedly we all wish we were teenagers. Sorry guy been there, done that.

"Adult males are all sexually rampant and alcohol-fuelled. Muslims only pretend to be uninterested in getting drunk, and Real Programmers are either adolescent, or wish they were."



I am starting to wonder if Guy is actually a closet homosexual that hasn't yet had the courage to come out and uses queer bashing as a way to hide his sexuality. Come on Guy own up, Homosexuals are people too.

Edited by author 10-18-2006 02:50 PM

Will tollerate slander...

Apparently the organiser has now withdrawn the Tequila Girls from the Cold Fusion web site. He has written to the BOFH who originally exposed him, as follows:

"The content you have posted on your site about me I want it removed. These were private emails and no permission was given to post it online.
Having you emailing me abuse was bad enough, and I will tollerate you slandering me on your website as well.
I suggest you lot grow up, posting this sexist rubbish online just because you do not like tequila girls is incredibly childish. I wonder how the poor tequila girls would feel if they knew about the sexist slurs you were making about them, but quite clearly you have no respect for other people.
If I find that the content is still on your site tomorrow, I will be contacting your hosting company to get it removed."