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Topic: The "Matrimonial Market" in 1935
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07-19-2006 07:16 PM ET (US)
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KBK  5
04-30-2006 07:40 PM ET (US)
     I disagree, Larry. This article was prescient in indicating the way relations between the sexes were going. It was written during the flowering of Stalinism in the U.S., and reflected a true cold-blooded look at marriage as a materialistic contract, not a loving union of two human beings. This is how Political Correctness began; the Hitler-Stalin No-Agression Pact, the Purges, the Show-Trials, the abrupt anti-Hitler change in the Party Line after Hitler attacked the USSR, and WWII were anticlimactic and nowhere near as enduring by comparison. Marriage is war, and war is Hell. Larry, you should know, you were my divorce lawyer..... Your featured essay was more predictive of the shape of things to come than any work of Wells or his successors could ever dream of being.
   The role models for leftists and liberals of our degraded age would be Bill and Hillary. No matter what Bill was doing with the intern, Hillary (who grew up as a Republican, and served for years as a member of the board of directors of Wal-Mart, the role model of our bleak economic future and of neo-feudal corporate-employee relations) stuck with him because ultimately his connection could be use to enable and propel her own insatiable lust for power......

      A further example of what a degraded age we live in: Twenty nine years ago, in an East Lansing restaurant/bar famous as a political hangout, I listened to the bozo who ran a major part of MSU Placement
Services talking with a friend at lunch. Now, at a presentation just a few days before, he had taken something someone said out of context, and given some poor undergraduate a horrific tongue lashing for saying something that he construed as Not Politically Correct. However, at the restaurant, he and a crony were joking about how their wives wanted to work. They were disagreeing about, quote, "letting their wives work". They both thought it might reflect poorly on themselves and their earning power, but disagreed as to how they had decided to give "permission". The one who had decided to finally relent and give the little woman permission to work explained condenscendingly that he had done so only to give her something to do and to shut her up. His crony looked skeptical and somewhat appalled.....
    Flash forward to the mid-80's to the present. Over the years, in the same spot, over and over again, I have heard left wing male political activists and rightwing fratboys discussing the minimum salaries they expected their future prospective brides to bring to a potential marriage. They debated minimum salary expectations absolutely humorlessly. They sounded like pimps discussing their womens's earning power, like Wall Street analysts discussing corporations' return on investment.
     America is a nation where people would pimp their grandmothers to fill up gas tank of their A. [conservatives] SUVs (while keeping their own kids away from military serivice in the oil fields) B. (liberals) Toyotas, Hondas, and Volvos (while of course gushing forth with crocodile tears for the plight of the American working classes, whom they hold in sneering contempt). Sex and marriage are both just other ways to make a fast buck.
David Boyle  4
04-23-2006 03:07 PM ET (US)
     When you are lucky, you may even get your husband to name a town after you, as the "Anns" of Ann Arbor might have had done for them...
     Then again, a woman could found her own town and name it after herself, too.
T. Nielsen Hayden  3
04-22-2006 09:43 AM ET (US)
KBK, there's something a bit more complicated than you imagine going on in this piece of writing.

LK, thanks for posting it. It hasn't gone out of date.
Lawrence KestenbaumPerson was signed in when posted  2
04-21-2006 01:27 AM ET (US)
Um, okay, but this article (complete with its deep cynicism about marriage and men) really does date from seven decades ago. No kidding, really.
KBK  1
04-21-2006 01:23 AM ET (US)
     Women denounce sexist men for looking upon women as sex objects, but it is politically correct to talk about shopping for men as a kind of household appliance or trained monkey or household flunkey. Another example of human beings perceived of and used as "conveniences" would be the undocumented illegal aliens (underpaid and with no Social Security to look forward to in their old age) used by women of the elite classes of both political parties to clean their toilets and care for their spoiled brats (e.g.: Zoe Baird and others of her ilk). Another example of how modern liberalism, in its modern degenenerate state, has become as bad and as hypocritical as conservatism.
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