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JPC
05-22-2013
05:46 PM ET (US)
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confusedntft===Out-of-schedule premium regulations are applicable only in cases where management has given advance notice of the change of schedule by Wednesday of the preceding service week(for managements convenience). Its calculated from your set schedule. If you start time is 8am and they schedule for 6am on Wednesday of the preceding week you will get 2 hours (1.5x your pay) if you work only 8 hours. If you work 9 hours you will get 1 hour of OOS and 1 hour of OT (7 hours straight pay, 1 hour of OOS, 1 hour of OT = 9 hours of work). If you work 10 hours you will get 8 hours of straight pay and 2 hours of OT. Every click (second)you work of overtime or penalty is subtracted from OOS (OT and penalty always supersede when it com to pay). Out-of Schedule applies to EACH DAY not "collectively" but you cant exceed forty hours of OSS in a week because any time worked beyond 40 will become OT that is always OT which supersedes it. IF you are a NTFT the same rules apply (refer to JCIM Q&A's in article 8). IF your bid is six days then you can get OSS on those 6 days. If it is 4 days then you can get OOS for the 4 days you are regularly scheduled, and so on. If you work a day that is not part of bid job time then overtime or penalty rules apply. NTFT's have a bid job like Neildj said do not sign the form you are taking money from your pocket.
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JPC
05-22-2013
05:15 PM ET (US)
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TO==== M.Smith & Neildj, PSE's get flsa overtime like you said ...This means they get OT only after 40 hours!!They do NOT get "postal overtime" which is after 8 hours (FLSA OT is the law after 40, postal OT is contractual). PSE's are only guaranteed 2 hours when called into work. PSE's do NOT get OT after 8 hours BUT the OTDL MUST be used for OT after a PSE works over 8 hours (even though they are not actually in OT). This is to protect the PSE from being worked 12,13,14 hour days and trying to avoid paying overtime to the OTDL. I think that is what Neildj was trying to say but it just didn't come out right. Look at the JCIM on the APWU website (the Q&A's) explains it in plains in detail. IF a PSE work over 40 for so many weeks then management must make a full-time position per the contract. This is similar to the PTF maximization rule.
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X-stew  05-21-2013
03:01 PM ET (US)
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Clerks bid on boss jobs???
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justaclerk
05-21-2013
12:43 PM ET (US)
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A postmasters job.
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RIKSNY 05-21-2013
09:59 AM ET (US)
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/m5346 Bid on what??
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Neildj
05-21-2013
09:50 AM ET (US)
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What?
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justaclerk
05-20-2013
09:39 PM ET (US)
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No response from regional Gonzales as to why a clerk from Pocatello (not closing in immediate future) was allowed to retain her seniority in Boise and bid right away.
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RIKSNY 05-20-2013
08:47 PM ET (US)
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It's just plain old spam. Posted the same link on about 4 boards.
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Neildj
05-20-2013
08:37 PM ET (US)
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Huh?
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Spam deleted by QuickTopic 05-21-2013 02:07 AM
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Neildj
05-19-2013
06:10 PM ET (US)
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5341 M.Smith. Pses are not limited to hours normally they are to work less than 40 however they can work more than 8 in a day provided all regular clerks onthe OTDL have the opportunity for the overtime first. Pses get flsa OT after 40 hours. Before they get hours past their tour ptfs if any get the hours first as not to be to thei
r detriment. Yes Pses can and do get OT and more than 8 hours in a day but available OTDL clerks working the same hours get the OT first even if the pse is not yet on OT.
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M.SMITH
05-19-2013
05:10 PM ET (US)
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DO PSE EMPLOYEES KNOW HOW MANY HOURS THEY ARE LIMITED TO WORK. I HEAR THEM COMPLAIN ABOUT HOURS AND AFTER ONE YEAR ARE THEY ELIGIBLE TO BECOME CAREER EMPLOYEES
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Neildj
05-17-2013
06:10 PM ET (US)
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5334t1 confusedntft: NTFTes have a bid they cannot change it. If they do it must be reposted! Any hours out of your bid must be outofscheduled premium up to your 40th hour of work past that it is overtime and penalty time rules do apply. Contact your steward, chief steward, clerk craft director, vice president and president. Do not sign a change of schedule it is not for their convenience! If they don't help call your NBA. IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE OTDL THEY MUST CALL EVERYONE IN THE BUILDING ON THE OTDL THAT IS QUALIFIED TO DO THE WORK BEFORE A NON-OTDL NTFTE!!!
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Neildj
05-17-2013
06:07 PM ET (US)
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5337 CONFUSEDNTFT: They are only to work non-OTDL NTFTES IN AN EMERGENCY. REGULAR USE OUT OF SCHEDULE REQUIRES THE BID TO BE REPOSTED!!!! maybe even creating FT bids!!! Cal your union headquarters immediately!!!
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Neildj
05-17-2013
06:02 PM ET (US)
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5334 confusedntft: NTFTes have a bid they cannot change it. If they do it must be reposted! Any hours out of your bid must be outofscheduled premium up to your 40th hour of work past that it is overtime and penalty time rules do apply. Contact your steward, chief steward, clerk craft director, vice president and president. Do not sign a change of schedule it is not for their convenience! If they don't help call your NBA. IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE OTDL THEY MUST CALL EVERYONE IN THE BUILDING ON THE OTDL THAT IS QUALIFIED TO DO THE WORK BEFORE A NON-OTDL NTFTE!!!
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confusedntft
05-17-2013
12:56 AM ET (US)
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Question: If you are a 6 day ntft and work 5 days out of schedule on the fitth day does it become penalty? Or does it need to be all 6 days? We have 5 day and 6 day ntft in our office I know as a 5 day ntft if they require me to work out of schedule for 5 days on the fifth day all the oos is penalty. How does it work with a 6 day clerk. Next week all 3 of the 6 day clerks are working oos for 5 days each. Thanks for any input.
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