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01:24 AM ET (US)
We have a co-worker who has a daughter who is in a wheelchair, but no one knows what her condition is. We as employees never say anything about the FMLA this co-worker takes.....But, She takes the full 480 hours a year to take her daughter to doctor appointments. She readily admits the FMLA is for appointments and never says things like the daughter gets transfusions or receives some kind of medications or treatments that make her sick for the whole 8 hours after the Doctor appointment. This co-worker always schedules these 8 hour FMLA doctors appointments on Mondays or around holidays. We don't know why she needs the whole 8 hours to go a Doctor appointment, again I know it none of our business. So she takes FMLA a day before or after each holiday, which is 10 days and then 20 or so Mondays. So with other employees who are off on AL this makes us even more short....I guess the paper work she submitted must explain why 8 hours are need or management wouldn't allow it...I don't know....I know you don't get 480 hours for dependent care....Anyone's thoughts,please
Edited 11-27-2015 01:29 AM
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
05:22 PM ET (US)
/m6153 We might as well not have FMLA if you are required to bring in a note when you use it. FMLA is 'protected' leave, laid out in federal law. And nowhere in that law does it say that once the SHC is documented, that you need to keep documenting it. SHC has been demonstrated by medically approved FMLA form and that's all that's needed.

So, no note can be required. If steward or local hems and haws, go to NBA. I'd tell boss who called me that he's interfering in your use of FMLA and you lawyer wants his name.
01:14 PM ET (US)
m/6152 I have contacted steward and he indicated same thing. Just to clarify, would the note have to be from her doctor or from me that I was caring for my mom for the period indicated and refer to my FMLA case number?
Edited 11-26-2015 01:14 PM
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
01:09 PM ET (US)
/m6151 never ever give a post office supervisor or manager a persons or your diagnoses.

you stated you have a fmla case number, does this case paper work state you might need to be off for extended periods of time to care for your mom? then have your supervisor refer to said paper work. if not the note just needs to state you need to be with her, nothing more. have you contact your steward?
12:41 PM ET (US)
I have FMLA for my 94 year old mother. She has had a recent bout with an unknown malady where she is vomiting sporadic times during the day. My caregiver called me at work to indicate this. I left work at 2 pm in the afternoon on Wed. to care for my mom. On Thursday things seemed to stabilize and I went back to work. That afternoon the same thing happened. I left work early. I decided on Friday not to report and indicated FMLA leave to supervisor for that day. Monday I had a scheduled doctor's appt. for her and left at 2 pm. Tuesday she was not feeling well and I reported to my supervisor that I would not be in for the rest of the week. Supervisor calls me at home saying I would need a doctor's note not specifying how it should read. My question is what is the proper wording that should be indicated in this note supervisor is requesting? At different times during this week I have been to her primary care doctor and urgent care doctors. They have not fully diagnosed what is causing these vomiting issues. I am the only person (relative) that can care for her.
Edited 11-25-2015 12:42 PM
k new york
07:15 AM ET (US)
global settlement for clerks . In the settlement agreement Das said ALL CLERKS not just ptfs and nfts were to be paided. Since all ftrs were ptfs at one time we were only promised 20 hours per week. Where is the settlement for ftr clerks. In my office we have no ptfs available because they have other assignments that leaves the ftr to work which never happened since postmaster worked. The ftr should have been called in. As far as this settlement being fair it is a far cry from being fair the union totally forgot about ftrs. Fair would mean ALL CLERKS were paid not just a few clerks. What about our grievances about postmaster working all this time did they disappear
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
09:20 PM ET (US)
/m6146 only arbitrators interpret
05:04 PM ET (US)
/m6147 I just used that scenario as an example.
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
02:23 PM ET (US)
/m6146 No. Page 46, 2.F.

The seniority for employees returning, within one year,under B.2. above shall be established after reassignment as the seniority the employee had when he/she left minus seniority credit for service outside the bargaining unit, craft and/or installation.

Because she left craft for 5.5 months [6/15 to 12/1], original 1/1/10 seniority must be adjusted to 6/15/10. It seems odd but because she started right on Jan 1, it's a just a coincidence that seniority matches when she left craft.
12:45 PM ET (US)
/m6142 So my interpretation would be this clerk lost her seniority when she came back from being a carrier and bid on a clerk job 12/1/10. The seniority would be 12/1/10? but less the time spent as a carrier?

Article 37

Changes in Which Seniority is Lost
Except as specifically provided elsewhere in this
Agreement, a full-time employee begins a new
period of seniority:
a. When the change is:
(1) from one postal installation to another at
the employee’s request.
(2) from another craft to the Clerk Craft
(voluntarily or involuntarily).
b. Upon reinstatement or reemployment.
c. Upon transfer into the Postal Service.
X-stewPerson was signed in when posted
06:14 AM ET (US)
/m6142 Only way it makes sense is if retreat rights got her the clerk job on 12/1/10. In that case, it'd roughly be 7/10; time from hiring on 1/1/10 to now, less time spent in carrier craft. But it's not your call; HR has already done it, and APWU will be able to get it.

Look under 'seniority', and when it's changed.
postalvetPerson was signed in when posted
09:22 PM ET (US)
/m6142 did this person have retreat right. you can not bid back to clerk. read article 12 and 37
egarkPerson was signed in when posted
09:21 PM ET (US)
cker /m6142 - how can a carrier bid on clerk jobs?
09:17 PM ET (US)
The vacation board is making the rounds. One of our clerks out of a total of 4 came to us from being a carrier. What would determine their seniority date.

In other words let's say this clerk started in the post office on 1/1/10 as a CFS clerk. CFS made the job excessed. Clerk came back in same district as a carrier on 6/15/10. After being a carrier she bid back in another clerk job on 12/1/10. So technically what would be her seniority on the current clerk vacation board as of today. Do you have a reference document I can use?
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RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
10:15 AM ET (US)
You're right. If FERS, they would get 15% of their pay.
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