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Tom Terrific  53
01-17-2007 09:16 AM ET (US)
Don - If the RCA position is the only opening listed, then that is technically the only opening. Most full time positions (Rural Carrier, Clerk, City Carrier) other than maintenance are not opened up to the street. Best thing I can offer is to go to each post office you are looking at working in and seeing if they have a list posted for the public on various positions. All rural carriers are hired from the RCA's already employed. I believe city carriers come from the PTF's or from other full time employees who sign up for the test from within. In fact a lot of city carriers are actually PTF's. There are some employees that are hired from the street to work in the post office (TRC?)and are usually used the same as RCA's but can work the city route too and I think get paid a low hourly wage.

nothing wrong with starting out as an RCA if you get the interview. it's a good way to see if you actually like the post office life and to see how the other jobs you are interested in work. hang in there.
 54
02-06-2007 04:10 PM ET (US)
Tom ... not sure where you get your info but all city carriers start out as PTF's at the very least. You can be hired as a casual but still must become a PTF first. Never seen anyway around that. It is part of the seniority process. You'll become a full time career carrier when a vacancy occurs due to retirement, someone quitting or dying.

Don the 30% disability rating may work against you as far as becoming a carrier. It is the postmasters discretion to hire who he wants. If he/she believes that you cannot perform the required duties they may pass you over. Nothing is written in stone but again it is the PM's choice.
Tom Terrific  55
02-07-2007 10:34 PM ET (US)
and I think that's probably why I said "I believe city carriers come from the PTF's" and "a lot of city carriers are actually PTF's". The other part about "from other full time employees who sign up for the test" comes from people I have asked, who actually probably don't know, but told me anyway.

And I can say, as a 70% veteran myself, my VA rating did not hamper my ability to get my RCA job. I was at the top of the hiring list, I interviewed well, and was selected for the position. The medical determination is made by doctors in the personel office who evaluate the VA documents that your rating is based on. They ask you questions about the various injuries and then they make the decision as to whether or not your disabilies will interfere with your job performance. The post master never sees and cannot see the basis for your rating and all they know during the interview process is that you have 5 or 10 pt preference. Your driving record will have more of an effect on your ability to get the job than your VA rating will.
 56
02-08-2007 08:59 AM ET (US)
Just as a side note there is a major physical requirement difference between an RCA and a city carrier.
Don  57
02-08-2007 11:31 AM ET (US)
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Tom Terrific  58
02-08-2007 10:03 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-08-2007 10:03 PM
Don, I'll let Mr . answer from here on out. He obviously knows more about it than I do.
Todd  59
02-12-2007 06:55 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-12-2007 09:50 PM
yes can anybody give me a answer to this question please, i'm a RCA still in my probation period, can i still receive a notice for a PTF carrier if i have taken both the 460 and 473 test.i have been trying to get a answer to this question and nobody can give me a straight answer. thank you for your help.
Don  60
02-12-2007 10:20 PM ET (US)
Yes you can!! I was informed of this by the HR manager at the Harrisburg, PA office. I too just got hired on as an RCA and I am also on the register for PTF City Carrier.�A;�A;Don�A;�A;�A;----- Original Message ----�A;From: QT - Todd <qtopic+35-kTt8ybUwj7yVe@quicktopic.com>�A;To: QT topic subscribers <qtopic+subs@quicktopic.com>�A;Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:55:23 PM�A;Subject: Veterans�A;�A;�A;--QT-------------------------------------------------------------�A; Reply by email or visit�A; http://www.quicktopic.com/35/H/kTt8ybUwj7yVe/m59�A;--------------------------------------------------------------- -�A;�A;yes can anybody give me a answer to this question please, i'm a�A;RCA still in my probation period, can i still receive a notice�A;for a PTF carrier if i have taken both the 460 and 473 test.i�A;have been trying to get a answer to this question and nobody can�A;give me a straight answer. thank you for your help.�A;_________________________________________________________________�A;To unsubscribe: http://www.quicktopic.com/35/X/kTt8ybUwj7yVe�A;Start your own topic in 20 seconds: http://www.quicktopic.com |QT�A;�A;�A; �A;________________________________________________________________ ___________________�A;Do you Yahoo!?�A;Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.�A;http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Todd  61
02-13-2007 11:23 AM ET (US)
Thank you Don for that information and good luck at your RCA job and hope you hear something soon about a PTF carrier notice.
Fiancee of a City Carrier  62
05-24-2007 11:44 AM ET (US)
Does anyone know how military leave works for a PTF city carrier who is a National Guard reservist? He has been an employee for approximately nine months. He asked his managers about military leave and no one seemed to know the answer as to whether/not he was entitled to the leave. I am an HR officer with the federal govt. and our reservists are entitled to 15 days a year. I thought that it would be the same for USPS employees as well. Is the ML entitlement only for employees who have been with the postal service for a certain period of time? Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. Are there regulations available for postal employees to review?
Bro of a VetPerson was signed in when posted  63
09-28-2007 11:01 AM ET (US)
Hello. I have a little brother that is getting out of the Navy in 5 months, he will then have 20 years. He would like to get a job at the U.S. Postal Service. He wants to be in the Maintenance Craft. He is now stationed in New Orleans, and would like to get hired by the USPS in Florida, Daytona Beach if possible. Does it matter how much disability he gets to get a veteran's preference to be hired quickly? If anyone can help it is greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance and have a great weekend.
Cedar Rapids ET  64
09-28-2007 04:41 PM ET (US)
Hi,
 I did the 21yr Navy thing too and got hired in Apr2006 at USPS. Please pass on to your brother thanks for all the great work.
 The way to get hired by the USPS "off the street" is to get on the hiring register. For other than maintenance positions, this requires taking and passing an exam. For maintenance positions, there are 3 steps;

1. Take and pass the exam for the position he is interested in.
2. Fill out and return a booklet of KSA's(Knowledge/Skills/Abilities).
3. Attend an interview to go over any questions and see if you in fact are hireable for various reasons.

 Once these steps are complete, he will be placed on the hiring register for the geographic location where he took the exam.

 To get an exam, there are 2 ways for him to do it. Go to https://uspsapps.hr-services.org/ and select the state he is interested in and apply for the exam. I went there just before writing this, and there is a maintenance mechanic exam being offered in Daytona. He should apply for that quick since the announcement closes 9/30/07. This would mean he would be taking a test some time(this is governmental time ranging from apprx 2 weeks to 3 months....as a guess) after this close out date. The test would be given in the general goegraphic are where the results will be affected. So if he could apply for the exam now, then find away to take the test in Daytona, in a month or two while he's active, he would be ahead of the game.
 Another way to get an exam other than when it is being offered to the general public is to contact the post office in the area where he wants a position. He can sign up for any test he wants during the first 90 days of becoming a vet. I was later told it was the first 180 days, but I'm not sure its that long. He must be a vet to sign up for a test/tests this way so he can't do it while on terminal leave.

 The way vet preference works, if hes a vet, he will get 5 points added to his PASSING test exam. If he's a disabled vet, he will get 10 points. If he's disabled with 30 percent or more disability, he will be get 10 points, but also be placed in a special category that requires his record to be considered first before anyone elses, regardless of test score(as long as he passd before the 10 points were added.)

 Well good luck and I hope this helps.
Cedar Rapids ET  65
09-28-2007 04:43 PM ET (US)
I forgot to add that once he is on the register, he will then need t wait until there is an opening. The USPS will contact people from the register in exam score/vet pref order until they fill the position. He may get hired soon or it could be years. I didn't want it to sound bad but I wanted to be honest about the time frame.
WHAT UP WITH THAT ?Person was signed in when posted  66
02-27-2008 04:56 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-27-2008 04:56 PM
Can a postmaster take your voice of employee (VOE) survey and do anything that they wish with it. The voice of employee survey is first class mail. Some one please help me with one.
usmc1982  67
03-20-2008 12:10 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-20-2008 12:12 PM
I have just started a PTR in Kansas City,Mo. I read somewhere that if I am a 10 point veteran preference with credible service that I would recieve 20 days annual leave rather than the 13 for employees with less than 3 years with the USPS. Can someone clarify this for me or point me in the right direction for the correct answer. Thank you SEMPER FI!!!
Rapids ET  68
03-20-2008 09:52 PM ET (US)
usmc1982, I think some of the information you have been given has been misconstrued. As a vet, you can use your time in service that is countable to boost up your leave gained each year. This can go up to 26 days, the maximum. The 10 point part isn't needed for this, just that you are a vet and your service dates coincide with the accepted dates the post office wants.

 If you look at this link

http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/manuals/elm/h...02.html#vnameref_21

you can read a vast amount of information regarding the annual leave program. Please keep in mind, if you retired from the military, then only a small portion of your time in service will count toward leave accrual in the post office. This is also covered in this link. I hope this helps to clear some stuff up.
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