"Love how people have dual screen names and come in and stand up for theirselves under the other screen name"

Sorry, you again are sadly wrong.......I have only one screen name, and I have been around here for a long time.

"Advice is always good to have but the only one I trully trust with my life is my Saviour"

Well, good luck with that, I guess you have all the knowledge you need to proceed and win.

Now that the boxing gloves are laid down, lets try to relax and enjoy the holiday. Enjoy your friends and familily because that's what really counts. Everyone take a day off and we'll pick up shop talk after the fourth. A thank you to all. We will not give up the fight. By the grace of God we will survive.

Love how people have dual screen names and come in and stand up for theirselves under the other screen name.LOL I havent inlisted you as my help, matter of a fact I have found out that if a person researches enough he can even show his lawyer things they didnt know. Only a fool takes someone elses word on things when it comes to their future and not look into theirselves. Advice is always good to have but the only one I trully trust with my life is my Saviour. SORRY!!

"And as far as the bashing....you made the first comment about federal employees being money hungry, in which I thought was uncalled for because you dont know the circumstances in which each case represents. Funny thing is though all these people telling federal employees to settle for chump change will face a circumstance in their life one day that will make them face those same decisions and then we will see what they do. Hilarious!!!! As far as you leaving the site and giving volunteering you advice, you should be doing it because your heart is in it thus that is why its called volunteering. You have a nice day but the day you can give your opinion and put others down but cant take it back then you need to get off this forum."


This was totaly uncalled for, and if Linehanpc does not return , you have done yourself a very big dis-service. There are only a few lawyers willing to help Federal employees with OWCP, and he was here doing it for FREE.

His advice was straight on, maybe you did not like it but it was just the FACTS....I have rep'd several employees over the years, and all I hear is the same..."if they will settel for this then I want that", sorry it does not work that way.

You want a class action, then do the math on how much it cost just to get it to the point of argument that it should be a class action.

This is why I recomended all IOD's who are effected by NRP, to get together in order to see the possibilty of such action......finding a firm willing to take this on will be difficult, and they must have deep pockets, as it will be billed upwards of 3-5k per hour depending on how many lawyers and staff needed to gather and research the needed information not to mention the years it would take to award.

Instead of lashing out on those who are trying to help you, try focusing on the problem and how it can be controlled, as it will never be fixed.

BTW- you are the one who just put yourself down, good luck with that.

And as far as the bashing....you made the first comment about federal employees being money hungry, in which I thought was uncalled for because you dont know the circumstances in which each case represents. Funny thing is though all these people telling federal employees to settle for chump change will face a circumstance in their life one day that will make them face those same decisions and then we will see what they do. Hilarious!!!! As far as you leaving the site and giving volunteering you advice, you should be doing it because your heart is in it thus that is why its called volunteering. You have a nice day but the day you can give your opinion and put others down but cant take it back then you need to get off this forum.

linehanpc Yeah well tell that to someone who believes you......let me see is that why Lawyers spend so much time in school and studying for the bar because its a terrible job. Funny thing, go by a mailmans house and you will see an average house but go by a lawyers house and tell me if you can tell the difference. In case you dont know they are usually the ones in the two story homes with the big lots that hire someone else to do their yards while getting thousands of dollars to represent clients whether they win or not. I feel so sorry for them and I know if you ask all them they would leave that lifestyle in a new york minute to be a mailman. DONT SEE IT HAPPENING>

linehanpc I understand what you are saying but do you think if a lawyer that makes 80 thousand plus a year loses his or her job unjustly would ask for a few dollars in settlement when he or she is told that is what they have to live off of and no longer will be able to be any kind of lawyer ever again.

I think I would love to be a federal employee on the entitlement program. 90% of the lawyers I know work for themselves, they have no federal pension, no federal employers benefits, no federal workers compensation, no federal medical, little to no insurance, no guaranteed federal weekly or monthly income, etc. They will work until they drop over dead and then that is it. (includes me) Lose their job? Tough luck.

So, obviously the forum here now is bash the volunteer lawyers, as such thank you, but I have more important things to do and I am out of here and bid you well.

linehanpc I understand what you are saying but do you think if a lawyer that makes 80 thousand plus a year loses his or her job unjustly would ask for a few dollars in settlement when he or she is told that is what they have to live off of and no longer will be able to be any kind of lawyer ever again. I DONT THINK SO!! Problem is lawyers can be such hypocrits because they want people to settle for something just to say HEY I WON THE CASE and it be over with but they would be the case if they were litigating for their own cases. This isnt about track records and score keeping its about making something right the best way you can for someone who has been unjustly done. One years salary for an employee who had planned to retire with the PO and is only 38 is nothing compared to the salary he or she could have made if he were allowed to continue working until retirement. Lawyers dont see it that way. They just want to go ahead and mark that win for the books and move on. Not all but that is most of them. The reason most lawyers dont want to take federal cases because it requires them to know there job and actually have to work for their money. Believe me I dont say these things litely but I see it. My opinion, If you want to make the big bucks you have to do the job to get it.

oh one more, law broken see a lawyer...)

great response So true Linehanpc, all's I ask is language we can understand. Lawyer talk drives me nuts but understand how and why it comes about. Most do not understand the difference of law and contractual issues. Contractually we are screwed,,, clerk union that is. All PO unions maybe out of a job soon. They are fighting the bigger battle, survival of fittest PO dying, we injured are just collateral damage now.. Please excuse any of my post that may have insulted you. It is 1. ignorance (read) and 2 lack of feeling heard,,,( see a counselor) 3 fear... hard to let go 25 years.... but many HAVE survived, how do I know this... they are still posting.... enjoy 4th all

According to 5 USC and 29 US Federal Code, The ELM, and the Rehab. act. of 1973. No, they cannot. In fact, they "MUST" provide
a "Reasonable Accomodation" to injured employees.

First: Your question deals with a union/employee matter; In other words and in very short form, take this up with your union. Not the courts.


Now if you lawyers would stop playing games with the injured employees on this forum maybe you would have time to do a class action against the P.O. because many of us on this forum have indicated several ways violations have occurred.

Second: Amazing response. (And you wonder why lawyers are extremely difficult to find for federal employees?) My purpose here is to only offer free and voluntary legal observations to OWCP issues, not union employment law issues (of which I don't even practice), nor to start up class actions or legal suits, etc. If you want a class action, quit the mouth talking and start hand paying out the money to do one.

Third: I don't know of any "games" lawyers are playing with federal employees. I do know for fact and based on direct peer experience and correspondences for over two decades that lawyers as a whole will NOT deal or work with federal employees for the simple reasons that federal employees are (to be a simple and blunt as possible) considered to have a very high reputation for demanding a lot, and a very low reputation for not wanting to pay anything for those demands. Case in point, a class action. I have seen this alleged "class action" demanded by USPS about every 6 months for 20+ years. Yet everytime those who demand the class actions are asked to pay the costs for such an action (court costs, depositions , transcripts, experts, travel, copying, faxing, filing, etc etc) without fail, those very few mouths who demand the class action, shirk away into the corners, muttering not me, not me, not me.....

Like I said, this is simply a forum to exchange ideas, and offer free assistance and direction to befuddled federal employees. It is responses like yours that cause volunteer attorneys like myself to simply throw up our hands and say..why even bother?

Linehanpc-
Ok Mr. linehan, I will brief this as if it were a legal class.
facts: A postal employee was injured at home when they fell off a ladder.
Their doctor said they could not carry their route. restrictions involved sitting in the office most of the day.
Other employees who are injured on the job, the post office suddenly cannot find any work for them. Why? because they know and have said: "Let OWCP pay you, go home"

ISSUE: can the Post Office give work to an employee injured at home and not provide the same work to other employees who have job related injuries?

LAW APPLICATION: According to 5 USC and 29 US Federal Code, The ELM, and the Rehab. act. of 1973. No, they cannot. In fact, they "MUST" provide
a "Reasonable Accomodation" to injured employees.

Raised Where?- Is not relevant.
By who?- Answered.
Against who?-Answered.
For who? Inferred.

Now if you lawyers would stop playing games with the injured employees on this forum maybe you would have time to do a class action against the P.O.
because many of us on this forum have indicated several ways violations have occurred.
Thank you for your work, and have a great 4th

how about we start calling the NALC in Washington and bombard them with calls.. i feel the union is slowly losing what little strentgth they have or are they just trying to stay alive with the employees that are left if the po survives

Whether an issue could be raised as to why someone who was injured at home is given work and those who have work related injuries are sent home.

I am still lost as to what this means.

What issue?
Raised where?
By who?
Against who?
For what?

Linehanpc-
Re: Post #13041
Whether an issue could be raised as to why someone who was injured at home is given work and those who have work related injuries are sent home.

"the best thing all IOD's can do now is get your own webpage and share any and all info from across the country on this, and prepare for a class action lawsuit."

RALLY ON! Count me in!!!