|
Retiree
06-11-2013
12:23 PM ET (US)
|
The jeeps lasted a long time, too. The jeeps were too small for mail whereas the LLV, mail flops around. I am very neat with loading (every letter is important). It takes me a long time. Others just throw it in there either out of impatience (I'll get to it when I get there) or time intimidation by supervisors (you should be gone by now).
|
ohiomailman  06-09-2013
11:17 PM ET (US)
|
My LLV is 26 years old. The metal vehicle identification plate has 6/1987 as a manufacturing date. When I started 20 years ago the orientation teacher said the LLVs (long life vehicles) were made to last 24 years. They can't be that safe with no airbags or padded dash. I never saw a fire extinguisher in one.
|
egark 06-09-2013
10:41 PM ET (US)
|
MUSTANG /m4785 -- we have had LLV's for 25 years. I gotta go with "no". Why do you think they should be?
|
|
MUSTANG
06-09-2013
10:37 PM ET (US)
|
Does anyone know if fire extinguishers are required in LLV'S???
|
RIKSNY 05-27-2013
01:58 PM ET (US)
|
Same as yours, to point out that there is a difference.
|
|
b2bjustme
05-27-2013
12:39 PM ET (US)
|
Riksny - I'm quite familiar with the 510 section of the ELM and then some. Therefore, it is important to pay attention to whether or not the supervisor is requesting medical documentation or simply documentation and/or if only some employees are being subject to this request/requirement.
Some supervisors try to include your non-scheduled day (NSD) as 1 of the 3 days or more, even though you are not scheduled on your NSD. Additionally requesting 'additional' documentation when an employee has approved FMLA conditions on file can be seen (according to FMLA rights) as attempting to discourage an employee from using FMLA leave. So what is your point?
|
RIKSNY 05-27-2013
11:40 AM ET (US)
|
513.364 is for absence of more than 3 days.
|
|
b2bjustme
05-27-2013
11:25 AM ET (US)
|
NOTE: The following is also from the ELM.
NOTE: "supervisor MAY accept the employee's statement", which could be interpreted as a verbal or written statement and puts the responsibility back on the supervisor to choose whether or not they want to make a bigger issue of you absence.
513.36 Sick Leave Documentation Requirements
513.361 Three Days or Less
For periods of absence of 3 days or less, supervisors may accept the
employee’s statement explaining the absence. Medical documentation or
other acceptable evidence of incapacity for work or need to care for a family
member is required only when the employee is on restricted sick leave
(see 513.39) or when the supervisor deems documentation desirable for the
protection of the interests of the Postal Service.
Just ask the supervisor if they want you to go to the doctor for documentation, because they should know if they say YES, then the Postal Service has to pay for your mileage and co-pay to the doctor.
If you don't want local management to have your medical info, ask them for the name and address of the "postal nurse" so you can send it to her/him yourself.
You could always ask the supervisor if they have a documented medical degree and then express your sympathy with them for having to settle for a non-medical profession. Ahhhh.
|
|
b2bjustme
05-27-2013
10:58 AM ET (US)
|
Documentation can be your own written statement and acceptable (ELM 513) when you're "deemed desirable" by a supervisor. This example can be modified to include or leave out whatever applies to your particular situation:
Postmaster/supervisor:
Please accept this statement/documentation for my absence ________ in addition to my call to ERMS; in addition to my signed PS Form 3971 (Request for Leave); in addition to my approved and documented (filed) FMLA for my medical condition under FMLA #___________ and/or OWCP approved and documented work related injury under OWCP #___________.
Sign and date
Keep the original and give the carbon to management!
|
Retiree 05-26-2013
02:14 PM ET (US)
|
"Supervisors may accept substantiation other than medical documentation....."
Dear Sir,
My husband is sick as a dog.
Sincerely,
his wife
|
RIKSNY 05-22-2013
09:39 PM ET (US)
|
That's my understanding, too, of how it is supposed to be done: Goes to the OHNA at the District, then they notify local mgmt. No privacy issue involved.
|
|
NECarrier
05-22-2013
09:37 PM ET (US)
|
/m4776 I don't disagree with anything you posted, but I still say it does not go to the local supervisor, but rather to the health nurse. Local mgt is the last person I want in on my medical problems. Occupational health will review the documentation my doctor faxes to their office and then they email my supervisor something like this: "NECarrier's absence on X date is eligible for sick leave. Appropriate documentation has been provided." My doctor may have sent a detailed note to Occupational Health, but they do not share details with local mgt.
|
RIKSNY 05-22-2013
09:22 PM ET (US)
|
Here is what the ELM says about documentation:
513.364 Medical Documentation or Other Acceptable Evidence
When employees are required to submit medical documentation, such documentation should be furnished by the employee’s attending physician or other attending practitioner who is performing within the scope of his or her practice. The documentation should provide an explanation of the nature of the employee’s illness or injury sufficient to indicate to management that the employee was (or will be) unable to perform his or her normal duties for the period of absence. Normally, medical statements such as “under my care” or “received treatment” are not acceptable evidence of incapacitation to perform duties.
Supervisors may accept substantiation other than medical documentation if they believe it supports approval of the sick leave request.
513.365 Failure to Furnish Required Documentation
If acceptable substantiation of incapacitation is not furnished, the absence may be charged to annual leave, LWOP, or AWOL.
(bolding added by me)
|
|
NECarrier
05-22-2013
09:01 PM ET (US)
|
/m4774 No. You do not have to provide a note to your boss. Medical documentation goes directly to the District Health Nurse, also called Occupational Health. Nothing about your personal medical information is EVER given to your local supervisor, no matter what he or your PM says.
|
|
midwest misery
05-22-2013
05:59 PM ET (US)
|
Does your doctors note to excuse you from work have to list the reason why? I was tols today they will only accept it if it gives reason. Does that not get into privacy laws?
|
|
golfgod
05-22-2013
04:10 PM ET (US)
|
Can anyone tell me how long the union can hold on to grievances and not settle them in a timely fashion. Did the informal then gave the copies of the grievance to VP of union and never did anything with them. How long do they keep the records of grievances on file? 3 or 5 years. I had to file NLRB charges against the union for not settling grievances on a timely basis. How long would they keep a copy of those grievances on file.
|
New Topic
My Topics
Views:
204799
(Unique:
30174
) / Subscribers:
41 | What's this?