doc,I know what you mean. I am the only carrier with 7 hours street time in my station (most carriers have 6 and a half hours street time. They get half hour pivots every day. I don't get pivots. I hope you get your 30 minutes addition.

guam ptf /m2438 -- not sure what you mean. Why is the senior PTF not being given the hold down?

moi, I've been on the route for 3 months. The only 3999 they have was done with the ptf. The stewards position is that if the post office wants to rely on numbers then that's what he's going to make them do even if it leaves 3 of us with routes shorter than 8 hours.We had 2 people take the first early out which ended up with 3 of us on new routes with no current 3999. Our steward is not from our station and has not talked to anybody in the office about adjustments. We are all at a loss for words (wellllll not really) but we all desire an 8 hr. route.

for instance ...is it true that if the senior PTF is on a hold down that ended yesterday that they cant start another hold down today? and it should be the junior PTF's turn?

if you have a hold down on a route and it ended yesterday, you are allowed to put another hold down on any said route, just as long as you requested it with enough time for it to be accepted, however it all depends on if mgm says it will allow the hold to take affect. in other words if they want to they can say no, that's when you can file a grievance, then mgm and your coworkers will have something to mumble about... good luck

Can mgms say that there will be no holddowns given and the rt will be used to pivot?

they can do whatever they want

http://www.prc.gov/docs/63/63452/USPS_Cong...rkpapers_FY2010.pdf

From a budget report the USPS sent to the PRC dated June 16, 2009...

Projected employee reductions by end of FY2010:
Clk/MH, 30,268 (out of 275,930 or 11%)
Carriers, 19,456 ( " " 238,480 or 8%)
Rurals, 3,042 ( " " 102,232 or 3%)
Bldg/Plant/Equip 1,665("45,624 or 4%)

???
Postmasters, 315 (out of 31,246 or 1%)
Supervisors, 1004 ( " " 49,781 or 2%)
HQ/Area/Field 115 (" " 13,518 or 0.9%)
???

Obviously, they only plan on minimal reductions for the already bloated EAS/PECS... USPS is toast.

/m2447 Look at article 41.2.B.3 of the JCAM. It states that vacant assignments may be opted (bid for holddown).

looked into it and here is the info


question/comment
A full-time reserve or unassigned
regular letter carrier who has
opted for an assignment per Article
41.2.B.3. must work the duty
assignment for the duration and
may not bid on other full-time
duty assignments.


answer
False — M-00669 (Step 4 H1N-5G-C 22641
02/24/87), JCAM page 41-12
Such a full-time employee has the right to bid
full-time duty assignments even though on the
opt. If their seniority allows them to secure
such a full-time bid assignment, then the individual
is placed into such assignment according
to Article 41, Section 1.C.3.
The resultant vacant opt is then filled pursuant
to the provisions of Article 41, Section
2.B.3-5, provided there are 5 or more days remaining
in the hold down.


so if you are on a hold down you can request a future hold down as long as you are available to work it. (the old "holddown" must end before the next starts)
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next question
the route would be assigned daily until the sick carrier submitted the paperwork or 5 days had past....this I know it true.
but the question is, if the carrier had not submitted the paperwork stating how long he would be out but fellow carriers give mgnt heads up that it probably would be long term, is this sufficient to post the bid immediately or is it simply hearsay?

What good is the NALC:
Because the mail volume has gone done our office has now changed all
routes, but hold on NONE of these routes will be bidded on by senior carrier seniority down the bidding will start with the number 14 carrier
so anyone above him CAN NOT bid on any route. We have no seniority and
the nalc union office said to bad we are not going to help you.
And here is one more, a carrier came to our office in 2005 has a total
of seven ( 7 ) years with the PO and he has a better route (80 percent)
business and (20 percent residental) and this carrier now has a better
route than the top senior carrier who has 30 years of service, and what
does the NALC say about this, TO BAD SO SAD. When routes start in two weeks
13 carriers will drop the union and spend that money on better things.

AIRBUD /m2452 -- "so anyone above him CAN NOT bid on any route". This statement is 100% incorrect. Everybody can bid on whatever routes are posted. I don't believe the NALC said the carriers above number 14 can't bid and that's "too bad". They know how it works. Get your facts straight before you go nuts.

I appears he is stating due to route or positions being abolished a route was abolished but not at the junior person. Thus the carrier affected and all below by juniority have to rebid within the section for the routes

The union branch 133 in Sacramento told this is the way its going to be,
if you have any questions you should ask them.

/m2452 How can carriers be precluded from bidding on a route that has been posted? Maybe the carriers above #14 didn't have their routes changed entirely, so their routes won't be posted, but if the routes from #14 on down ARE posted, ALL carriers may bid on them, including #1-13. Its right there in the JCAM.
"Article 41 establishes fundamental letter
carrier rights under the contract—a regular carrier’s right to accumulate
seniority, and the right to bid on, obtain and hold specific duty
assignments based on seniority."
If your steward isn't all over this, he should be.
Perhaps the details of your situation would be more enlightening.

Edited by author 06-19-2009 07:31 PM
AIRBUD is right about this iam the senior carrier in our office, ive had the same business route for 14 years and the postmaster gave the business
part to a carrier 6 lvls below me and can bet your bottom dollar the shop
steward did EVERYTING to stop this but got the same results as AIRBUD did,
in the next few days you will see a new post from the steward more to come.