RIKSNY  05-22-2013
09:39 PM ET (US)
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That's my understanding, too, of how it is supposed to be done: Goes to the OHNA at the District, then they notify local mgmt. No privacy issue involved.
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NECarrier
05-22-2013
09:37 PM ET (US)
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/m4776 I don't disagree with anything you posted, but I still say it does not go to the local supervisor, but rather to the health nurse. Local mgt is the last person I want in on my medical problems. Occupational health will review the documentation my doctor faxes to their office and then they email my supervisor something like this: "NECarrier's absence on X date is eligible for sick leave. Appropriate documentation has been provided." My doctor may have sent a detailed note to Occupational Health, but they do not share details with local mgt.
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RIKSNY 05-22-2013
09:22 PM ET (US)
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Here is what the ELM says about documentation:
513.364 Medical Documentation or Other Acceptable Evidence
When employees are required to submit medical documentation, such documentation should be furnished by the employee’s attending physician or other attending practitioner who is performing within the scope of his or her practice. The documentation should provide an explanation of the nature of the employee’s illness or injury sufficient to indicate to management that the employee was (or will be) unable to perform his or her normal duties for the period of absence. Normally, medical statements such as “under my care” or “received treatment” are not acceptable evidence of incapacitation to perform duties.
Supervisors may accept substantiation other than medical documentation if they believe it supports approval of the sick leave request.
513.365 Failure to Furnish Required Documentation
If acceptable substantiation of incapacitation is not furnished, the absence may be charged to annual leave, LWOP, or AWOL.
(bolding added by me)
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NECarrier
05-22-2013
09:01 PM ET (US)
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/m4774 No. You do not have to provide a note to your boss. Medical documentation goes directly to the District Health Nurse, also called Occupational Health. Nothing about your personal medical information is EVER given to your local supervisor, no matter what he or your PM says.
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midwest misery
05-22-2013
05:59 PM ET (US)
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Does your doctors note to excuse you from work have to list the reason why? I was tols today they will only accept it if it gives reason. Does that not get into privacy laws?
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golfgod
05-22-2013
04:10 PM ET (US)
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Can anyone tell me how long the union can hold on to grievances and not settle them in a timely fashion. Did the informal then gave the copies of the grievance to VP of union and never did anything with them. How long do they keep the records of grievances on file? 3 or 5 years. I had to file NLRB charges against the union for not settling grievances on a timely basis. How long would they keep a copy of those grievances on file.
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Warden Samuel Norton
05-21-2013
08:32 PM ET (US)
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Obtuse?
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Need advice
05-21-2013
07:05 PM ET (US)
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Yes 4769 is fake. This forum could be great. I can't believe that management gets their kicks posting obtuse messages. Grow up and get a noble, respectable, and useful position.
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egark 05-21-2013
05:41 PM ET (US)
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Need advice -- I am figuring /m4769 is fake. You may want to register.
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Need advice
05-21-2013
04:29 PM ET (US)
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Wow thanks RIKSNY and egark. I would have never been able to figure out on my own that it was a fake person pretending to be the real egark without your infinite wisdom.
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egark 05-21-2013
04:02 PM ET (US)
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Need advice /m4765 -- First, disregard anything alleging to be from me in which the screen name has no registration star. These are the posts of those who have nothing of substance to stay so they revert to childish games.
As far as documentation, take notes: "this event happened at this place at this time involving this person". Try to get others to do the same. Being able to cite specific people, times, dates, lends a lot more credibility than drawing from memory and having to say stuff like "well, a few times, months ago, I think it involved egark..."
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RIKSNY 05-21-2013
03:56 PM ET (US)
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/m4766 ....says fake egark.
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egark
05-21-2013
03:41 PM ET (US)
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Please upload the photos you have to this site so I can check them out.
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Need advice
05-21-2013
03:29 PM ET (US)
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egark, how do I present or obtain evidence when it is not permitted to film or record in a federal bldg?
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egark 05-21-2013
02:08 PM ET (US)
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Need advice /m4760 -- I am only as wise as the information give. Now you have changed the equation because the first time you did not mention special treatment or detriment. That is a problem. Start documenting these incidents. Can you prove they are doing the dance-with-no-pants?
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egark 05-21-2013
02:02 PM ET (US)
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X-stew /m4761 -- On another board I accused X-stew of being a source of much bad info. This post is just another example. Edited 05-21-2013 02:09 PM
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