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Well, it is kinda like asking which is worse murdering one person or robbing 1,000?

Hard to say.

I'd agree Barrus is worse here, but it makes sense Frey is more of a news story.

Of course Frey "duped" more people. But, I think we need to have a bigger ethical measure than book sales. This Nasdijj character, truly a character, a work of fiction, stole an identity, stole someone else's story, and in the process denied others a voice. We do need to insist on some level of truth and authenticity and cultural respect when we are being spied on and treated with contempt by our elected officials.

In terms of booksales, someone like Nasdijj/Barrus may not have duped a lot of people, but he did, in effect, take away sales from someone whose story is more authentic. Someone, like a Native author, who had lived and written about this experience. In this way, he is quite similar to Frey, I think.

Barrus's "crime" is a bigger deal than Frey's. He not only faked his readers, as few as they may be, he played Indian (badly) and got caught. His "crime" involves a whole other level beyond lying in a book or being a plagiarist (thief). His is a cultural theft as well, in a long line of thieves. And now that he has been exposed as a fraud, he's taking back what he offered. Like a certain kind of "-giver" we've all heard of.

Well... You can't really expect people to be more upset about a nobody author than a big famous one.
Maybe this is a bad tendency, but on one level the people here are right. I mean, Frey, by virtue of selling 5 million more books as duped 5 million more people. His crime is is a bigger deal.

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In fact, "emotional truth" is a pretty good term for what PW is praising in the story there. It sure aint the prose.

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This is a pretty typical review. The story is interesting and makes you feel for the author since he really went through it (or we though he did) but the prose is shitty.

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cfg: really? All the excerpts I've seen make it seem like he can't write at all. All his stylistic differences seem totally trite or boring and nothing has been memorable from the excerpts I've read except their stupidy (eg, calling a beaver a "fat otter with an armored tail")

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if you look up Frey's book on Amazon and read through the review excerpts, it's clear that this guy can write. Would the reviewers have been so lavish with their praise if they'd been reading a fiction? That seems unclear to me, since so much of their praise (at least in the excerpts) hinges on style and voice.

Makes one wonder whether this was all a carefully orchestrated campaign to get him the attention he deserves. If it bleeds, it leads...maybe he felt any embarrassment would be worth the press it would fetch him.

I'm looking forward to the book "My Friend Oprah" by James Frey. That's gonna kick ass!

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(Really, t he big news here is that Frey is pronounced "fry"... ) Admit it, it feels good. She's admitting she was wrong. And there's nothing wrong with feeling high-and-mighty about it. So long as, you know, you don't discount the more basic human urges as "undesirable".... So Oprah has vivisected Frey on her show and exacted revenge on behalf of the little people she lead into literature's Viet Iraq. Who do you think her audience supports? The guy's not even a recovering crackhead. He's a wanna be crackhead. That's more Jerry Springer than it is Oprah. How droll. You know, the more I read about it, the more I'm starting to feel the bastard was himself duped by cash-hungry publishing types eager to fit him in the genre-du-jour. I mean, he DID try to sell it as fiction... Not excusing it, just pointing it out. Another opinion here.


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