Very well understood Wiz, I too have kids also. Then there is another tag on the internet with yours and let me tell you its all over. Anyway just seeing how your OIG thing is going if at all. I have had no luck with them at all as they are for management side and will protect them. In regards to making an employee do what was wrong, what did you have to do? It just seems this is a mandatory thing with all managers on having to do acts of stupidity on innocent employees. I as well as all my friends here wonder what training these spineless morsels undergo. Are they taught to deny everything and abuse employees verbally, mentally, sexually, what? Why is it our voices are not heard nationally. Sure we hear it on this site of daily happenings but I mean why cant we all get up and stand the fight against this. We do outnumber them you know. We should hold a march just like King did and put a stop to this ongoing madness this agency does on a daily basis to hard working employees. What say we start a national petition on getting our voice heard. Is there anyone with me. Echo, echo, did not think so. LOL