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Hello again folks. Wanted to update everyone on the outcome of my Redress. Besides catching the man in a bunch of lies, I was able to at least get my funds back. He could not prove to me what he was saying about the attendance process and the 3971's. I believe he thought I was not gonna call his bluff on this and when I did, he could not produce what he just got done telling me he does when a call off is in effect. And isn't it ironic that the OIG investigated the same thing in New Hampshire with TACS violations and found fraud was indeed involved. It is on www.postalnews.com for those of you that wish to view it. When I called OIG, I was told that because mine was a timekeeping issue and the violator was not gaining anything financially from this, they were unable to do anything about it. HOW IRONIC! Only difference was that the OIG was contacted by a Congressman which is my next step. I will keep everyone posted.

Way to wipe the sand off, get up, and kick the sand back at the Beach Bully (PM/Supervisor).
You show us true principle, and character. Keep up the fight!

Wiz, as you should know by now the OIG is on managemants side. I have had numerous complaints filed with only a return letter from OIG ststing nothing was found. I excercised my right through FOIA and still did not get a response. All I received was the complaint itself filed with no findings. No investigative reports to show they did not find anything. We my friend are in a situation where the USPS managers think they are above the law. Everytime I file a grievance pertaining to harassment I simply attach the Bernice Fields arbitration on there. This arbitrator was known to other arbitrators that the workplace harassment will not be tolerated. In her power she removed the manager and had him apologize for all his wrong doing. It is sad that all arbitrators do not think like Bernice, butyet they find ways to promote and transfer these deadbeat managers. Good luck with the congressman as the letter he or she will send to the agency will only get forwarded to the law dept. Then you will receive a response such as follows: in light of your response on the ongoing discrimination we hope the employee can utilize the grievance procedure or EEO channels to get his or her answer.
This agency has an excuse for everything and I am shortly going on the web to exploit all abuse employees received. I am in the process of creating a web site for postal employees to use the resources I will provide. i have an extensive file cabinet with all EEOC cases sustained by employees on the wrongdoing this agency has done. I am going to share the world not only the actions done onto me but everone.

Wiz, as you should know by now the OIG is on managemants side. I have had numerous complaints filed with only a return letter from OIG ststing nothing was found. I excercised my right through FOIA and still did not get a response. All I received was the complaint itself filed with no findings. No investigative reports to show they did not find anything. We my friend are in a situation where the USPS managers think they are above the law. Everytime I file a grievance pertaining to harassment I simply attach the Bernice Fields arbitration on there. This arbitrator was known to other arbitrators that the workplace harassment will not be tolerated. In her power she removed the manager and had him apologize for all his wrong doing. It is sad that all arbitrators do not think like Bernice, butyet they find ways to promote and transfer these deadbeat managers. Good luck with the congressman as the letter he or she will send to the agency will only get forwarded to the law dept. Then you will receive a response such as follows: in light of your response on the ongoing discrimination we hope the employee can utilize the grievance procedure or EEO channels to get his or her answer.
This agency has an excuse for everything and I am shortly going on the web to exploit all abuse employees received. I am in the process of creating a web site for postal employees to use the resources I will provide. I have an extensive file cabinet with all EEOC cases sustained by employees on the wrongdoing this agency has done. I am going to share the world not only the actions done onto me but everone.

eeo... is formal only. WIZ28 management

Kim, EEO starts off informal but the complainant chooses wether to go formal or not. Also, WIz are you not only affiliated with this forum but hundreds of others on the web? I see your usertag id on many sites. Would it no just be easier to post questions and answers on this forum as all the concerns you raised in other forums are covered under the highlighted fields of interest. I dont know if Wiz is management Kim, I would just like to know why would one post questions and answers on several websites when all the questions and answers Wiz posted outside of this site are all under the realm of activity you want answered in this site. I am confused? This site is a way for us to communicate, and the way I see it Wiz if it is you on other sites, are you fishing for information? I might be wrong there may be another Wiz, but I doubt the same user tag posted on these other sites. Help us out here WIz!!

Let me clarify some of your questions. First and foremost, I am NOT management. I did supervise at one time as a 204B for about 2 years when I 1st started but when asked to do something I felt was wrong against an employee, I gave it up. I have been employed with the USPS for almost 20yrs as a Mailhandler and have no plans of ever going into management again. Secondly, I have only posted to this website for information. There must be someone else out there with the same name. I have fished for info b4 on some things but I only posted to websites that would give me the best feedback which just happend to be this one. I may have posted to others at one time or another, but if I did there is no way I have the time to post to a hundred lol. I have a 2 yr old son I have to take care of every evening alone so I only wish I had such time to post to that many. Those of you with kids of that age can relate. Any other questions, please ask and I will get to them as soon as I can. Thanks.

wiz28 and others if you register and remember to sign in befoe poting then your name can not be duplicated.

Very well understood Wiz, I too have kids also. Then there is another tag on the internet with yours and let me tell you its all over. Anyway just seeing how your OIG thing is going if at all. I have had no luck with them at all as they are for management side and will protect them. In regards to making an employee do what was wrong, what did you have to do? It just seems this is a mandatory thing with all managers on having to do acts of stupidity on innocent employees. I as well as all my friends here wonder what training these spineless morsels undergo. Are they taught to deny everything and abuse employees verbally, mentally, sexually, what? Why is it our voices are not heard nationally. Sure we hear it on this site of daily happenings but I mean why cant we all get up and stand the fight against this. We do outnumber them you know. We should hold a march just like King did and put a stop to this ongoing madness this agency does on a daily basis to hard working employees. What say we start a national petition on getting our voice heard. Is there anyone with me. Echo, echo, did not think so. LOL

I did call OIG again once I saw the incindent in New Hampshire about managers deleting clock rings. They of course could not talk about another investigation and also told me that mine was somehow closed. I asked them that my case and the ones in NH are not the same thing??? Again, they said they could not talk about another investigation. As far as what they wanted me to do to another employee....I was told to tell an individual that they had to come in for overtime on their layoff day. I dont have a problem telling someone that but when I am told to tell them a half hour b4 they go home and on the day b4 their weekend...I do have a problem with that. They wanted to issue a letter of warning to this person cause they did not show up. I refused to do it. I understand the contract and the need for overtime but giving a letter is a bit extreme especially when I do not know the employee's history of this kind of action. As far as anyone hearing us, this whole company reminds so much of our Congressmen and politics in general. No one can be touched it seems unless they do something very outrageous. And those of us that do stand and fight are so few and far between that our voices will probabaly never be heard. A lot of ppl give up fighting cause it is a grueling process. And our unions at least where I am at are not effective or very competent in dealing with any of these issues. It is very time consuming as well. I fear that echo you hear will carry on a very long time.

Indeed Wiz it is a grueling process. I know first hand. You know under the FOIA you can request a copy of your investigation OIG did. I already can tell you what will happen next. They will send you your complaint you filed but not their findings. This will open up a new window for you to exert your right to find why they will not produce their investigatory report. The FOIA is a very powerful tool, that is if one knows how to utilize it. Contact your congressmen or woman and explain to him/her the agency's failure to produce the investigatory file they conducted. What will happen next is the congressmen or woman will send out there letter to the agency and it will only be forwarded to the law office of USPS in which you will receive a letter stating you have options under your bargaining agreement and that you need to follow through with this channel.Ok you made your voice reach the law dept on your matters and they know you will continue I hope to get the sought after information. Follow up with a labor charge on how the agency is refusing to give the information you are entitles to under the act of the NLRA section 8. This will stir things up but you are protected as you filed this complaint.They will conduct an investigation and make sure you give the labor board the OIg address instead of your employing office. The rest of this process wil be self explanatory and the labor board should retrieve this information you so want in your possession. Whew!! If they cannot give the board the information then they will deal with charges filed on them for failure to provide information within the scope of the act violated. As far as people giving up the fight, I understand. I am just one of the thousand if that many refuse to get treated like shit! you know the saying "Cant we just get along". Wish this was true, but not in the postal service. Next time your told to do something that you feel is wrong to an employee tell the person that wants the action done to do it themselves. Let me know how far you get with that one. LOL

Postal Employee Advocate
What was the case you were referring to in Oct this year. Something about environmental supervisor. I would love to read that case. Please help!!! Are you located in Idaho now?

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wiz, have you seen the latest in NH? Sounds to good to be true, but you never know. NAPS is right, come clean.

Why yes, I have been keeping my eye on it and have even called the Congressman involved. Have not heard back from them just yet. Just some FYI....The manager I had an EEO complaint against(a case where I prevailed) was taken out of our facility for "grabbing" another employee in the rear and moving him. Inspectors took him out the building but have seen him back inside lately and rumor has it that he has an in-plant support position until investigation is over. Also found out that the victim is a young male casual and he was told that he would be informed of the investigation and to date he has heard nothing. They will probably just move the guy somewhere else. Nothing surprises me anymore in there. All a big joke. Oh, and something else that will open your eyes. I have a brother that works in Manchester that I have been meaning to ask about all these TACS issues and the changing of clock rings. He is a MIPS so I think he would know something lol. That is, if he is allowed to tell.