I think we should start considering a change in stat services as well. Many of the major sites now offer customized league hosting and we may be able to find something that will allow us to continue all our league rules without paying the $100+ it costs for Center Field. Plus I can't help but notice the yearly drop in number of leagues they are hosting making me think they may be ending their services in the next few years anyway. Most of the sites out there would also take away much of the manual work having to be performed by the commish.

In addition to Papelbon and Mauer, Peralta and Polanco are available

For what it's worth, I like the protected number at 10 and don't support a change in the salary for players picked up as free agents.

Rule proposal: change position elgibility for DH's from 20 to 15. The number of eligible players almost doubles and the list at 20 is brutally thin. If not that, then a secondary proposal would be to not draft a DH but instead to draft a "flex" player during the regular draft, with that player needing to be an offensive player. Then proceed to drafting a UT who could be either hitter or pitcher. My preference would be to reduce the eligibility number for DH's.

Sure, Both, who do you want?


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> Subject: Breez Rotisserie League
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> Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 7:58 PM
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rwells5798@aol.com if your interested in talking trades...

Varitek, Ellis, Beltre, Cabrera, Damon, Hunter, Floyd, Wheeler, Escobar.

    see anyone you like .....


Sizemore, Morneau, and Nathan Im not trading....everyone else available.

Marcel
    Ive been in the league 9 years, it has always been 15 keepers, until last year. I would simply prefer the league to go to 12. If nobody wants to change it, I will live with it being 10 for another year. I feel those owners that build up a good team should be able to keep 50% of there team.
    

    What ever we vote in as rules we all have to follow. I dont understand the talk of keeping things fair and competitive. Here are the rules, build your team within the rules. Making the right decisions and drafting the right players makes you competitive. How many owners in the bottom of our league traded C and Z players to make there teams more competitive for this season? How many did nothing with them? The league is a game... If you make the right moves you get better, do nothing you will need a lot of luck.

   I respect your opinion, great line Culitomon.........

Anyone interested in either Mauer or Papelbon?

While I respect your opinion, Marcel, speculating as to what a Z player WOULD have fetched on the open market doesn't change what that player is: someone who is going back into the free agent pool. I believe that our owners are smart enough to understand the ramnifications of what either dealing or acquiring such a player means. Every year we have owners who are fighting for money and owners who are trying to build for next year. Allowing Z players UNDER $25 to be traded without restrictions is a positive thing for the league.

Whoa! Hold on a sec Rich. I don't support eliminating the end-of-season awards ceremony; Marcel, Jay and I have way too much fun attending it. Don't we boys?

The rest of you guys oughta drop in sometime. It's a barn-burner; pizza, TWO DIFFERENT kinds of Doritos, and little, teeny-tiny, dwarf carrots with Ranch or Blue Cheese to dunk 'em in - you pick! (No double dunking). Last year, Marcel even hired a techno DJ, gave us Ecstacy and turned our little BRL get-together into an off-the-hook, all-night rave!

I got chlamydia from some little hottie with lots of tattys and piercings and Julie took the boys to go live with her mother but it was a blast anyhow.

I say we keep it. Marcel, can you get a hip-hop DJ next year...and maybe some weed to take a little edge off the Ecs? And Jay - stop bogarting all the beer.

Edited by author 11-14-2008 09:24 AM
Let's keep a couple of things in mind here...Our Constitution is set up to keep things fair and COMPETITIVE. That being said, let's look at how we can make things BETTER FOR THE LEAGUE, not for the teams.

It seems that every year we discuss changing the number of players to be Protected. Last year a number of you did'nt like the change because it effected your team negatively. But fortunately, a number of you (me included) recognized that changing to 10 certainly helped the League. Frankly, I'm tired of this discussion every year. We have changed that number from 12 to 15, back to 12, back to 15, then to 10 (I lose track after awhile). The point is there is always going to be some teams that benefit more than others, and the teams benefitting will be different with every change, every year. Last year there were a lot of favorable comments about the Draft being better with having more qualitiy players available. We all say the Draft IS the best part of our League. So let's keep it that way!

On another note, generally speaking, I think if a "Z" player wasn't signed long term and had been available in the Draft, chances are he would have been drafted at $25+. Then we're looking at a $25+ for $25+ anyways. Therefore, I wouldn't be in favor of changing the trade restrictions on them. Granted it doesn't always work out that way, but it does more than not, insuring our "anti dumping" concerns.

I also view those restrictions as a deterrent to long term signings, again making more quality players available and our League more fair and COMPETITIVE. If you don't want to be in that position, don't sign players long term. Quite simple really.

I think we'd all agree that last year was probably our most competitive year we've ever had. I'm not talking about two teams competing for first place. I'm talking about up and down the standings. From first to last, we had more positional changes than I ever remember. I attribute that to a few things. One is our team owners are great MLB fans and have a good understanding of the game. The other is our Constitution.

Lee
   I see your point, im just not sure we want late call ups go for $2, but again under my system Longoria would be a $4 player. What if all call ups were 5b players. Star players claimed would either have one season left before becoming a free agent or be signed long term.....

Rich,

I think it may work better for your rule #A if the values are in reverse. The higher values in the beginning of the year help to eliminate some of the extra gain in the luck pickups by a teams slow start (like I had a few of this past year) as well as the lower values at the end of the year may help teams that are in it more likely to stay involved.

I have a few things I would like to change.

A. Free agents claimed receive $ value of month they were claimed in.
   Apr $2, May $4, June $6, July $8, Aug. $10, Sept. $12, Oct. $14

B. Lift restriction on trading players in last year of contract. I dont see why a Z player should have trade restrictions. I dont see how the player would have more or less value than a player not in the last year of his contract. I do think we should keep the $25+ for $25+ trade rule. However maybe it should be voted on as well as a seperate issue.

C. Keeper Roster... I thought 15 was too many. I also feel 10 isn't enough. I think 12, 50% of roster, would be better. I think some people may agree but not be in a position to keep 12 and vote it down. I would like to have a yes or no vote with an option, if yes, to start 12 keepers in 2010 to give everyone a chance to produce 12 keepers.

D. I support Marcels idea of moving roster moves to Monday. Ive never been a fan of getting free stats. I would rather see people use there knowledge and take some chances.

E. I also think players that are placed on DL on Monday should be able to be replaced. Most teams wait until Monday to place players on DL that are injured or sent to ML during week-end. We allow our owners to DL players at the end of the season that dont officially get placed on DL, so why not delayed roster moves, as long as they are posted on Monday.

F. Officially do away with end of the year get together. It doesn't benefit everyone in our league.

Good Idea Marcel.....