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Hey Folks:
 
We've got a hot topic this month. What's your take on the State of Black Family? I want to hear what you've got to say. Speak up!

Have any remarks about Coretta Scott King? Our civil rights leaders are passing on. How do we pick up the baton and continue? Do we still need "Leaders?" What's the struggle now?

Let's dialogue! --Anita

The state of the black family is sometimes disheartening to me. I see young men and women(teens & youth) that have no respect for themselves or others. Leaders that are aging and not enough of the younger generations stepping up to carry the mantle; little unity amongst our people, its every man/woman for themselves. A political structure that inhibits our opportunities by eliminating programs that help to level the playing field... Then I take one look at my family and I know that the struggle is all worth while. I can make a difference and make it better for them and hopefully it will transcend my children and cause the world around them to be a better place.

I have mixed emotions about the state of the Black Family. On one hand (which probably is the weightiest) I see so much that is "out of order" about our culture and the root of it all is because our families are so out of whack.
On the other hand though I see so many beautiful Black Christian Families instilling Christian values to their children. Fathers and Mothers in love with each other and with Christ. I see children wanting to have what their parents have because they see the blessings of God and the love of Christ that prevails in their lives. This must continue to be the key focus for our community, those that are doing it well.
 
You notice how Hollywood only cares about the godless, couple swapping that goes on there not the couples that have been married for years! You will never see " Denzell & his wife celebrate their 30th" on a tabloid. But I guarantee that if he starts seeing Halle Berry on the side it would be on everything. Lets continue celebrate godly families and remember that God isn’t finished with us yet!

It doesn't take much discernment to see that the state of the Black Family is in serious trouble. Sure we can pat ourselves on the back for some of the great successes we have, but there are too many broken homes, too many single-headed homes, too many youth in trouble. I wish I could say that "the church" has faired better but statistics show that there is really no difference between the "churched" and "unchurched".

I believe though that we as Christians must do what we can to make sure our personal households reflect what God wants AND do what we can to help others since we are our brother's keepers. This website is one of the ways that we can change things, I have taken wisdom from this website to change things in my home. I'm enjoying Dr. Harris's book. Randy Bonser's articles have helped me a lot too.

I believe that we must rediscover community forums on the issues and problem areas (addressing one area at a time). Discussion Forums with panel members who have wisdom in keeping marriages strong, wisdom in dating and male/female relationships, wisdom in parenting, wisdom in finances, budgeting, and investments. The challenge in this though, is that it can't be promoted in a self-righteous way, but more like a "we discover the truth together" kind of way through discussion. Some call it the "Socratic" method.

I believe that the family reunion that many families have annually or biannually is a great opportunity for this type of forum too!

I would agree with Djjoyful. We must continue to have forums like this to better understand and determine what needs to happen to pull the African American family back together.

Last year, I had the pleasure of attending an event called Reclaiming the Village, a dialogue of the African American family. It's aim was to have greater community involvement and ongoing efforts to implement programs designed to improve parenting skills, tackle complex social issues and strengthen the African American family. While attending the last meeting for Reclaiming the Village, I was amazed at the low turn out. I was extremely disappointed because I would have thought that more leaders within the community (city and state) would have come out to such an event. We did not have any representation from the Mayors or Governors office.

Because I am throughly convinced that "it takes a village to raise a child", I kept wondering why aren't the Chiefs in attendance? Don't they care about what's happening in their village?

Ironically, I have been to several Super Bowl events this week and have ran into the Govenor and the Mayor. Why is it so important for the leaders to "make a show" when "the world is watching", instead of showing up when our neighbors are talking.

Hello , truly our black families are facing some of the most challenging times. However my formula for recovery of the village is to show interest in others, confront what is wrong and understand most of what we see is just surface.

I am focusing on our youth and seeking ways to regain their trust, so the village can raise the children.

In my community, our young people have given into criminal behavior and false wealth in order to impress others. We must turn to what worked for our parents. No dark areas, making it a point to know who your child is associated with and if the individual is a positive influence. If not, find a method to make them feel apart of what works for your family. I believe in caring for others, becasue one never knows when they will need the favor in return. "You will reap, what you sow", also pray and encourage one another, make demand involvement from our local officials to improve our neighborhoods and by encouraging the implementation of community activities to generate postitive growth.

I have enjoyed all the dialogue thus far and look forward to future dialogue.

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State of the Black Family: Let me first thank you Sis. Anita for taking the time out of your busy schedule to hold what must have been a 2 hour conversation with my husband and myself on how we could begin to support each other as families, particularly as black families, based on higher principles which transcend religion.

The State of the Black Family is teetering on the edge of distruction. It can be saved with a group effort or it will tumble and be destroyed along with the blind leaders we follow.

I know that the foundation of any strong community is the family. The family is supported by two pillars. The pillar of education and the pillar of spirituality. Both pillars have been desecrated. Therefore, we must begin the work of building (not rebuilding - because the old pillars were based on a people who were physical and mental slaves).

We must build a civilization from scratch. This seems like a big task but so what! If God be for us, he is more than the whole world against us right. The people who built America did not have much of anything. They weren't even prepared to feed themselves in the new world. But somehow they survived; and all they did was -- do it. We might not like their methods, but the ones who get things done, get up and do it.

I am working on the particulars of what we discussed. Thanks again Sis. Anita.

Hi Friends:

On July 25, 2004, I became a widow. One month later, I launched a new ministry, Widows With Wisdom, a support group. Through the grapevine, I heard that some people wondered (and even said out loud)"How can she start a new ministry so quickly after her husband of over 20 uears just passed."

For a moment, those critics bothered me. But only for a moment. I didn't ask for this ministry. God called me to it. It needed to be done and I rose to the occasion - like I've always done. In fact, my dear husband, Rev. Eddie K. Edwards, always said, "Mary, you have a knack for filling a niche." I cherish those words.

Well, I've said all of that to say this: When I learned that Coretta Scott King led the Montgomery March JUST FOUR DAYS after her husband's murder, I could relate very well. And any residue of criticism that may have bothered me in the past quickly vanished.

Some things just can't wait. I salute Mrs. Coretta Scott King.

Minister Mary Edwrds
Widows With Wisdom

I am a retired, 65 years old African man. I am very concerned about THE STATE OF THE AFRICAN FAMILY. North American African should start thinking of themselves as African First before the can save the Family First. It is not correct to think that "the Builders of America started from nothing. They were helped by the First Nations and have denied the generosity of the people who helped them. We must not teach our children the falsehood spread by White America. We need to save our children first.

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I really enjoyed Dr. Blackman's column. I'm pleased that there are initiatives and curriculms out there to promote marriage within our community. I disagree though on one issue and only one issue that was brought up, I personally don't think having large families like Dr. Blackmon's great grandmother is a problem. For one, if Great Grandma considered it a problem, there may not have been a Dr. Blackman. At one time, large families were the norm and somehow these families made it! I look at Dr. Harris's family background, and also my paternal grandparents, it seems that "fending for that dinner table" taught that generation lessons that has been hard for subsequent generations after them to get. I know 21 children is a extremely large number and I don't know how they made it, but seeing at least one of the fruit of the tree convinces me that it wasn't a bad thing in a solid two parent household. I was watching a program the other day in which one man had 14 children with 11 different partners, that brother probably needs to shut his stuff down and get a sales career, looks like he would make a lot of money!!

Character: It all Starts a Home. We must impact our families...then we can impact our communities. Keep up the good work Anita. The sleeping giant will arise.

I really enjoyed the article by the success coach, Raquel Robinson. I appreciate her candidness about our inability to always recognize a weed as a weed. During this season of Lent, with her words of wisdom in my mind and hear, I will pay closer attention to the garden called "my life". The weeds have got to go. Thanks Raquel!

This interview was timely and truly a God-sent message for me. I plan to share the link and information with many of my sista friends. I appreciate the fact that Anita did the interview and that the means were there to share it with us even in Kansas City. Anita this was a great interview. You asked the right questions and provided us with appropriate information. I am happy to know what it takes to be an "unstoppable woman." May the Lord continue to empower and prosper you in various ways.

Blessings,

Delores Jones, Columnist and Radio Host
Woman To Woman...The Kansas City Call Newspaper
KC Currents News Magazine Show....www.kcur.org...the NPR Affiliate in KC

Minister Mary Edwards article on discernment is Great and timely. I totally agree, as Christians we are being fine tuned to know the difference between every relationship that's being offered to us.
We should know the difference between counterfeit messages even in the church world that stimulate us into seeking God's hand instead of His face.
So many self-help messages are being presented that don't change the character of the individual into the image of Christ. Ezekiel 33:30 -34:8 addresses how people will say come hear what they have to preach at this church (paraphrased) but they don't change. Ezekiel says the ministers have become like great entertainers, but it doesn't change the people. Ezekiel continues on then to prophesy against the shepherds because they have used their pulpits for gain.
I encourage you to continue to speak out against falsehood in this last day!
 
God Bless, and Thank You,
 
Pastor Alliene Johnson
Heart of Jesus Ministries
National Speaker and Author

The article with Pam and Pete was great. It was what I really needed to hear. Our local paper carried and article on them in the health section.We chose not to have cable so I don't know anything about the reality shows. I have been struggling with weight gain since we came back from Turkey as missionaries.We missed American food for 8 years and ate ouselves into obseity.By faith,knowlege and moving the ole bod we will overcome. thanks again and God Bless!

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Dr. Best, Thank you for reminding us of the importance of keeping our bodies healthy. Sometimes we forget and consume things that in the long run are not helpful for us. I do appreciate this good information. I am determined to be healthy so I may live long. Thank you again!!

Great job Pete & Pam. Very proud of you. You're an inspiration. God bless you.

Being a father/parent is a difficult task. There is no such thing as a perfect dad or mom. There has not being a perfect parent since Adam and Eve, and they failed. It is only by the grace of God that any of us can survive this all important "tour of duty" call parenthood. But, we must take the first step. We must committ, sacfice and persevere in order to enhance the chances that our children will become productive citzens. This training must start early and it must start at home. Our families/children are the foundation of our society. Remember! Life is about ups and downs successes and failures. How well we survive depends on how well we get up when we fall down. The love of God and the love family (individual, community and church families) are the hydrualic jacks we need to lift us up.

What fathers must understand is that God is placing a greater accountability on the father. When Adam and Eve ate of the forbidden fruit God went to the men first because he is the one to whom God gave the responsibility. Even though this is true, for generations men have placed the burden of raising the household on the mothers. The issue with many men today is that they do not want to take initiative in the household and in life in general, except when there is money to be made. If they make the money then they believe that their job is done. They come home from work and many just want to relax. What they need to understand is that their family is waiting for them to be the initiator. The wife is waiting on the husband to initiate conversation and open up. The child needs the father to initiate conversations about sex, drugs and alcohol. Men have to desire to fathers. If there is no desire then there will be no initiation by them. tjw.

Too much of a good thing can be bad. Breasts are a wonderful organ for women...useful and also beautiful. But does one need to bare it all. What happened to modesty...especially in our teen girls. Even the "good girls" dress like hoochie mamas.

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Pam (and Juan--KFF"s author of "Cleavage Alert":

You are so right about the way folks dress now-a-days. It used to be that there was an outward difference between "good girls" and other girls. Now, you can't tell. Perhaps "good girls" just don't have anywhere to shop. :-)

I see saved girls in the church who bare more than I would have ever thought to as an unsaved girl who wasn't saved and didn't go to church. I prided myself on dressing modestly. (Whatever happened to that kind of pride?)

I know there's a lot of media and social pressure on girls but they have to make a decision and stand up for what they believe. When I got saved my freshman year in college, I changed my lifestyle and made a statement. I was a trend setter for anyone who wanted to follow...me as I followed Jesus, that is.

Where is the leadership backbone? Be bold. Be strong. Our young girls must know what's in them and be proud of who they are. Honestly, good girls have more fun. And they need to let the world know. They do not have to bare all to be attractive or well liked. It's such a farce.

I pray for today's young girls. I know it's not easy. But we can do, and be more!

Juan;
In response to your article re: abstinence before marriage, my belief is based on God's Word and promise to His people. God promised to keep us if we want to be kept. Obviously, anyone who goes against God's Word does not have God's Word in their heart, and are not willing to live according God's Word! Regardless of what we say with our mouth, our actions speak louder! The problem is, some saints seemingly live their lives totally depending on "grace". As the Scripture says, where sin did abound, grace did much more abound. But shall we continue in sin so that grace can abound? God forbid! Living with that frame of mind means that the person has no plan to stop sinning! What a sad state to be in!

God bless you and Bishop Tolbert in your efforts to drive home the necessity to live according to God's Word in EVERY AREA OF OUR LIVES! A LITTLE LEAVEN LEAVENS THE WHOLE LUMP!

Juan;
Regarding BET's stand on teen abstinence, everyone has an opinion, but the truth of God's Word still stands firm! God gave no alternative, so how can man use one?

Jaun regarding this article and the issue of abstinence,I personally believe it is the only way to teach. However young and old church folks have put this to the side. Several months ago as a school project I had the opportunity to speak to fifteen young women all sixteen year-olds. The session was about modesty and abstinence definetly came up in the conversation. Although several of theses you women didn't attend church regulary they believed they should wait. Some at least until High school was over others until marriage. But they all believed sex and its affects on a woman was much different than a man.

Juan I agree you whole heartily for I seen the spot on BET and gives a moderate tone about sex not just to our young people but to those who watch the network that do not have a religious background. It gives the tone that people are going to have sex and it gives the message that power of the Holy Ghost can not keep a person until marriage. We should say Zip it Up instead of Wrap it Up.

Whether tragic events touch your family personally or are brought into your home via newspapers and television, you can help children cope with the anxiety that violence, death, and disasters can cause.

Listening and talking to children about their concerns can reassure them that they will be safe. Start by encouraging them to discuss how they have been affected by what is happening around them. Even young children may have specific questions about tragedies. Children react to stress at their own developmental level.

The Caring for Every Child's Mental Health Campaign offers these pointers for parents and other caregivers:

    * Encourage children to ask questions. Listen to what they say. Provide comfort and assurance that address their specific fears. It's okay to admit you can't answer all of their questions.
    * Talk on their level. Communicate with your children in a way they can understand. Don't get too technical or complicated.
    * Find out what frightens them. Encourage your children to talk about fears they may have. They may worry that someone will harm them at school or that someone will try to hurt you.
    * Focus on the positive. Reinforce the fact that most people are kind and caring. Remind your child of the heroic actions taken by ordinary people to help victims of tragedy.
    * Pay attention. Your children's play and drawings may give you a glimpse into their questions or concerns. Ask them to tell you what is going on in the game or the picture. It's an opportunity to clarify any misconceptions, answer questions, and give reassurance.
    * Develop a plan. Establish a family emergency plan for the future, such as a meeting place where everyone should gather if something unexpected happens in your family or neighborhood. It can help you and your children feel safer.

If you are concerned about your child's reaction to stress or trauma, call your physician or a community mental health center.

Thank you so much for the information. I find my daughter asking questions about why other children are mean or like to fuss and fight. Thank God my daughter is able to be in a home where we make an effort not to "fight" and "argue" but know I am concerned because I don't know how to answer her question. She is 5 years old and in the Kindergarten. She is mild mannered, likes peace and organization. My first instinct was to teach her to defend herself but I am sure that is not the best answer. Please help!! I want her to be able to focus on school and having fun.

Sarah, I enjoyed your article and I look forward to those moments in the future when I am married

Sarah, I always enjoy your honest, candid writing! Keep up the good work!

A friend sent me the Mr. Tavis Smiley interview. It was perfect timing and a source of great encouragment for me. I am the pioneer sort of person and also have been told I am gifted in many areas. As I listened to Mr. Smiley's story about his friend and his pinky finger this spoke to me. In the past two years I have finally been focusing on one area that I excell in and love which is teaching others to teach. I am in the midst of a start-up teaching ministry in our city. Mr. Smiley's words confirmed for me to stay on target and focus on one specific area. The part I love the most about focusing is, "I love to teach." Thanks for interviewing Mr. Smiley.

Nancy, thank you for taking the time to share your positive feedback. I am so glad that you were so blessed. You're welcome :-) (For interviewing Tavis, that is). It blessed me as well.

I totally understand the challenge of getting focused. Check out my article on "The Power of Focus."

Thanks for reading!

Anita

Your subject, "Keeping Family First" is truly amazing. Keep praying, believing and allowing others to receive a great message.

Pam and Deborah, Thank you for your encouragement! If there are topics you think I should cover, please let me know. Blessings! Sarah

Dreams become reality when there is work done and GOD involved. We must work and never give up. Never.

This is the bottom line, as our Editor in Chief states in her article, The Power of Focus (Holy Ghost Power too):

Big Dreams Require Big Sacrifice—Big Risks!

Chris Gardner, multi-millionaire and author of The Pursuit of Happyness, and his young son were homeless for a year in order to take the steps Gardner needed to achieve his goal of becoming a successful stock broker.

Cathy Hughes, multi-millionaire and founder of Radio One, Inc., and her son slept on the floor of her radio station in order to make ends meet while growing her radio empire.

Determined to get a college education, Tavis Smiley arrived on the campus of Indiana University without a room assignment, money, financial aid, nor the necessary enrollment papers--only an acceptance letter. His parents refused to complete the intrusive, yet required forms.

Tavis convinced the financial aid director to let him complete his own financial aid papers, find a work-study and enroll on his own. He promised he'd make them proud. I’m sure he did.

In each instance, Chris, Cathy and Tavis were focused on a goal they set for themselves and they wouldn’t let anything—not homelessness, not poverty, nor lack of familial support— keep them from achieving their long-term goals.

Whatever the dream, goal or desire that is burning deep inside your heart, fuel it with some focus and action. Although the effort may be bite-sized, after a few consistent bites, you’ll find yourself well on your way to living your dream.

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The BIG Question this week is:

"Why aren't more Black folks getting married?"

I invite you to chime in on this question.

My understanding is that folks of all races are marrying less--suggesting a decline in traditional values. I heard from a gentleman in the UK that folks over there are barely getting married at all. But back to the U.S. and back to us...I think there may be many reasons, but I'll offer a few:

1) Some of us avoid marrying because we assume we'll end up divorced--so why bother...

2) Some of us no longer see the value of marriage at all. Besides, few people around us are married.

3) If he can get the sex without marital commitment...Well, why pop the question?

4) Then there's economics. Maybe some brothers don't want to get married if they don't feel they can "provide" for their family the way they want. Also, women make more of our own money than we did decades ago. Hence, some of us feel like we don't need a man...

5) There's also demographics. Our panelist for the State of the Black Family online forum--Dr. Lorraine Blackman--states that we're about 1 million men short. Well, THAT might answer some questions! There are fewer men ALIVE, let alone eligible, for black women to marry. Don't look at a sistah cross-eyed because she's dating a man of another persuasion. Every woman deserves happiness (which for many includes a husband and children). So if she has to go outside the race to find it, so be it.

6) Lastly, I think our "anything goes" society and all these filthy rap videos and lyrics have polluted our young people's minds. Now they are adults with no sense of what's right and true. The Bible tells us to guard our heart, for out if flows the issues of life. Garbage in, garbage out. We need to get more of the Word of God in us so that better life choices are made.

What do you think?

  "Marriage? Why bother?" "Who is out there anyway?" Those are some of the questions I hear. If we take a good look at our society quite a number of our African American men are either in jail, homosexual or hangin' out on the corner with their buddies. But I don't think that is the bigger issue.
  Marriage has gotten a bad reputation because of the ease of ending a relationship with no-fault divorce, the lack of understanding of commitment and loyalty and the popularity of living together. I found out recently a couple I thought was married were not married at all. They had been living together over ten years, had children together so I just assumed they were married. I was floored at the revelation. But it just goes to show that marriage has been reduced to being the exception and not the norm.
  It is no wonder that it is slowly becoming easier to influence children to "explore" their sexuality because there is no one telling them God instituted marriage.(That is a whole other subject/topic!) It was His idea. It really starts when our children are young. If they don't see a real marriage modeled in their faces, not on television, but in their everyday life,they will imitate what is before them.

"Why aren't Black Folks Getting Married?"

One of the main reasons is "Generational Patterns). I've just completed my autobiography, "Born Grown." I deal with this topic thoroughly. I have seen four generations of mothers giving birth without being married to the child's father.

What the parents did in moderation, the children will do in excess.

The buck stops with ME - MARY EDWARDS - Child of the Most High God!

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"Marriage? Why bother?" Well, most successful black men such as myself that went to college and graduated with a 4yr. degree, probably are to busy to settle down and start a family. Another reason may be that black people are not getting married is because black women want a man that is just as, or more successful than them. It's not because there are not good black men out here. Not because some are in jail, or gay, or still growing up. Just as Darlene Thorne says that there is a lack of good black men, I feel the same, that there is a lack of good black woman. I feel that quite a number of black women would rather collect child support, than to get married and let a man raise his child. Some black women are not willing to put up with things that say for instance a white woman will. There are all kinds of reasons that black people are not getting married, but the main reason is financial.

Blacks aren't getting married because they are too consumed with living a fairy tale life that they see in the media, on Television and in the movies. When was the last time there was a positive black movie about a successful married couple. Instead we see the negative. How many pastors are talking about getting married? How many Black men and women see strong marriages in their family? There is not a lack of qualified black men or women just a lack of morals.

I'm so happy to see this being the number one issue of grave importance in the Black community.

I'm an activist and author among many other things and I've identified many of the set ups in society that have force fed Blacks an image that the nuclear family structure is NOT important. With that lacking, our statistics of success have significantly declined.

Black Women Need Love, Too is my book that explains this phenomenon and offers solutions to solve this race destroying trend.

BlackWomenNeedLoveToo.com - Please check it out!

Preach on Sister Anita and Minister Mary Edwards! Amen and Amen!!! The Bible tells us in Hebrews that marriage is honorable (not fornication is honorable). Proverbs says that when a man finds a wife, he finds a good thing, and obtains favor of the Lord. So what this means to me that God has blessings in store that perhaps only married people will experience. I'm calmly waiting on my godly prince charming--in the meantime, I am developing myself. Solomon said in Proverbs that every wise woman builds her house. And when God gets done making and molding me, I will be that Proverbs 31 woman who is strong, intelligent, a prudent investor, diligent, confident, humble and dignified and my future husband's heart will safely trust in me because I will do him good.

I have been happily married for 40 years (to the same woman), and I am worried that the current trend cannot be reversed. Pam has mentioned that this is not just a Black problem, however, 70% of Black women are choosing to stay single, according to a recent report. It seems that the driving factor in this trend is the "decision" by women not to marry, or remarry.

Black men are more negatively affected by every measure that our society tracks -- employment, income, education, homeownership, life expectancy, career advancement. Black men make up more than 50% of the prison population. These factors may contribute more significantly to the decisions of Black women, but it spells disaster for the Black family, as we have known it. Our churches, schools and neighborhoods are dominated by single parent families headed by women.

Unfortunately, there are no bright indicators on the horizon to summon us back to a "traditional family model." What is clear though, is that the Biblical model worked better to keep families, and communities together, and to provide values to establish good relationships with our neighbors. Those of us holding onto the traditional model must not grow weary in living as Godly examples for others.

I've just completed a post graduate class on Violence in the Family. I wonder how many women (and men) have witnessed intimate partner violence and assault to the extent that they've concluded that one is better off alone.
Having an abusive mate, or a mentally ill mate (disease caused by life pressures)makes one leary. People show their "true colors" once you are committed. There are also compatability issues. Even mates found in a
church milieu usually are decieving. They hide everything - including bad credit, promiscuity, table manners and violent mates!
No wonder many sisters are resorting to sperm banks. This eleminates the hastle

These are the "Last Days" that we are living in. Men (mankind) have become lovers of themselves. Fortunately, the Lord still has obedient children who believe in preserving the family and upholding His standards. It is up to us to lead by example, plant the seed and embrace those that we see falling by the wayside. Not that I'm claiming to be perfect, I'm just trying to help someone as I journey to gain a "Closer Walk" with Jesus. If we reclaim the village concept we once had and get back to family worship, family dinner (at the dinner table together)things we can just start at home - then we can venture out to help someone else and make a difference one family at a time - no matter what your family structure looks like.

Personally I agree with the poster "Ruth" on entry 51. Those are my main concerns with getting married.
And on top of that, people are so busy looking on the outer than the inner person. I, personally am overweight at the moment but I am very well-kept and attractive yet I dont see nearly as many men approaching me (with my intelligence, good ,god-fearing heart, pleasant personality,good looks, good and stable family background and positive future) as I do the skinny hoochfied glitter-wearing, fast talking bimbos.
I have alot of substance and , and would make a great loving, and supportive mate for someone . Even plenty of married men that I know of have told me this so the weight issue is one thing that people need to get over. Ive been thin before so I know the difference between the attention you get when you are certain sizes.

Hey Dona,
To put it bluntly when a man sees a women do you think he sees (intelligence, god-fearing heart, pleasant personality, good looks, good and stable family background and positive future)NO, because even though thats what a man may say he wants in a woman, when he meets her she must be looking hoochfied, glitter-wearing etc etc, because thats what stands out, that's what turns him on. However, what I have found (living in the UK) men would date these women, but marry women like yourself because they know you wont be going anywhere because of how you look on the outside. They also know how long it took you to find them, and as they say you should be grateful. Its a sad fact but true. Saying all this if an ugly guy with a great personality, good job but you didnt know this asked you out would you accept?

The Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago said this at a revival in Detroit a few months back and it made me go, "hmmmmm." He said, "Dating is a game with rules. If you don't know the rules, get out of the game."
It seems that compatibility, similiar goals, upbringing & morals, and mutual attraction are no longer important criteria in taking the relationship to the next level. Sex is all there is and I just don't get it. I feel that the African-American woman is the key to improving the state of the black family. A lot of sisters don't understand their worth and makes it hard on women who do understand their worth. I haven't heard much from Sista' Soldier of New York lately, but I better understand her persistent cry of forming a sisterhood - Sisters helping sisters for the betterment of the black family. You see if sex is all there is....whose going to raise our African American babies when most mothers are infected with AIDS from this new dating rule, SEX FIRST AND I SEE YOU LATER. Or even better, brothers perpetrating a heteosexual man when in secret, he is a undercover bisexual - Down Low (DL) Brother. I'm curious to know why are a lot of professional African-American men, turning to other professional African-American men. Again, I just don't get it. So go figure!
May peace be with you....my brothers & sisters.

Hey everyone, this is really good dialogue. If you don't mind, like Antionette and Kas did, let us know what state or country you're from. It's kinda cool to know.

Thanks for keeping the dialogue going!

Anita Lane
Executive Editor
Keeping Family First Online Magazine

This topic is probably the biggest issue facing our community today. The family used to be the foundation of our community. Before the 70's, we were a tight knit race, like an extended family. In fact, before the 70's over 80% of our community lived in married family. After the 60's, as a community we started down a path of separation and divorce that leaves us at an astounding 38% today. It was in the 70's that we began to see a spike in drug usage and gang activity. All this began to happen as less and less people in our community got married.

In my opinion, for many people family is no longer about family but about self. People get married now because of what they can get out of the marriage. Before the 70's, it seemed as if married was more about the other person. Maybe that's because before then family was all we had.

It seems that when we reached our apex as a community during the Civil Rights Movement many things went down hill from there. People became more independent instead of being intradependent upon each other. We forgot that it was family that got us through then and that it will be family to get us through now.

Another thing that many people misconstrue is that there is a difference between love and happiness. Today, men and women get in relationships based upon the fact that you make me feel good and as long as you continue to do so we can stay together. They like the good times, for richer and in health but flee at the bad times, for poorer and in sickness.

True love is defined when you want to do something for someone without the expectation of a return. True love is sticking it out during the bad, in poverty and in sickness. Most men AND women don't understand this today and this is the reason why most African America community.

T Wilson
www.terrencewilson.com
//author - In Search of a Father
//radio host - "Changing a Generation" VoiceAmerica.com

The health and prosperity of our society is directly related to the well-being of our families. Our families are the foundation of our great nation and of our world. Today, more than ever the traditional family is in trouble. Marriage between one man and one woman is under assault. Old fashion moral values are being attacked rather than passed on to our children. What can we do to recreate this tradition of strong and functional families?

1. Marriage partners must fully commit themselves to each other and achieve love and respect through the guidance of God. It has been said that marriage with mutual love, respect, honor, intimacy, and lifelong commitment as its fabric, mirrors the love, sanctity, closeness and permanence of the bond between God and His church.

2. Proverbs 29:15 says “the rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother.”(NIV) As parents we must be willing to accept this challenge. However, often we delegate or leave the task of training and raising our children to society. We expect the schools to teach our children about sex and morals. We allow television and movies to teach our boys and girls about love and relationships—one night stands. We expect the church to tell our precious ones about faith and trust in a higher being. Nothing could be further from the truth. As parents it is our job. We must accept the challenge of rearing our kids. We must get back to teaching the old fashion basics—the 3 R’s; Respect, Responsibility and Religion. This training must start early and it all starts at home.

3. Celebrate together as family. Children need encouragement like a plant needs water. Recognized or celebrate together graduations, birthdays or good grades. Thank your spouse for preparing that special dinner. Don’t forget to hug and show other signs of acceptance, affection or appreciation.

4. Compliment character more than talent. All too often in our world today the emphasis is on sports, popularity, physical appearance, ability and money. Everyone encourages, praises and supports the best three point shooter. A star quarterback is treated like a king. Television convinces our daughters that in order to be successful you have to look like a tall and thin model. On the other hand don’t forget to give high fives to the basketball star who exhibits good sportsmanship even when he doesn’t score. Give credit to the football star who respects the coach’s decision to allow others to play. Praise the young lady who befriends an overweight classmate. Over time, talent made fade or be lost, but the principles of honesty, caring, sharing, respect responsibility and love—character will last a life time. Invest in teaching and being a living example good character.

I believe that life is about ups and downs, successes and failures. How well we survive depends on how well we get up when we fall down. The love of God and the love of family are the hydraulic jacks that we need to lift us up. Let us all go to battle to recapture and secure our families so that the tradition will live on.

Edited by author 02-08-2007 06:43 AM
I totally agree with Dr. Larry Harris who has put it all in a nutshell, which can become a bombshell for people today, because people fail to accept the "TRUTH". Our families are lacking in the positive approach that we once recognized and respected (a relationship) with a Faithful God, for that is all we had at one time or another yet to remain faithful unto HIM AND EACH OTHER.

With same sex marriages, wars, diseases,perversion,hip hop fables,lack of self worth, an increase in violence and divorce rate, no respect for one another, no positive examples or role models have caused our generations to lose their identity as well as a sense of belonging to even attempt a bond with someone when they do not even know themselves. There has to be a more profound, persistent, positive and steadfast approach to salvage our generation, and our families before we will see a desire for one to embark upon a relationship that we identify as marriage.

Our culture has become disillusioned for there was not a word spoken with confidence to them that have maintained its position for them-NO MORE INTEGRITY OR TRUSTWORTHINESS AMONG US. PLEASE! SHOW ME 1. We continued to be hopeful, and remained proud for the culture but the saga is yet as real as the days of old to them-"BLEAK".

My prayers and faith continues for my people and everyone who has not found their way and purpose for living/exisitng, and the joy that one may have from uniting and bonding with the soul that connects in peace and harmony with them. It is possible, you just have to release the fears and the drama that have you believing otherwise.

My feeling is that everyone has gotten men and women self centered. After a certain age and if we have acquire many things of value, we are not willing to share them with anyone. Another reason is we have fotten the philosphy "two heads are better than one". If we look at marriage as a business, we can all see the significant value in this type of unity. But I believe our race feels we have a arrived and we don't need anyone to share our success with or no other person is deserving.!!!

Hello, this will not be popular what I am about to say.

Men aren't being raised to be men and women are not being raised to be women anymore.

The world we live in today is designed for everyone to get there own stuff. From day one little girls are told you don't need a man (which is true) but they take it as why get married, I can take care of myself.

Guys are not being taught how to lead because they don't have role models to look up to today. Guys are told watch out for those "hoes", bitchs, and other name bad names. So they view women as objects not people. So why would you want to committ long term to someone who is not a person but an object?

Until we begin to value each other and remember that we do need each other for support, love, and friendship, this trend will only get worse.

I think it depends on the part of the world one is looking at because blacks in developing countries believe in the family unit and do get married but those in western societies are not interested in marriage because of the culture in these places where marriage is frowned upon rather than celebrated as God so designed. So its not surprising that there are a lot of single households run by single moms; no one knows were the fathers are and of cause the media is not helping matters and you find out that a lot of young black men are struggling with their identity because of this and normally end up in crime and ultimately in prisons. The situation can only change when society embraces God first. See Pro 14 v 34 (Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any nation)..All our man-made methods havent worked and its high time we went back to the drawing board to save black people, their marriages and the children who are our future.

I think that the reason that couples(be they black or white)aren't getting married now is because individuals have forgotten or don't know that they will be held accountable for their actions. We have almost forgotten that there is a God. And because Society has played it to the point that we are on our own,we think that we are the sole entity as it relates to our actions. As has been said in the past,"it would be better to live your life as if there is a God and when you die find out that there is. That way, you won't have lost anything, than it is to live as if there is no God and when you die find out there is and lose everything.

I don’t know how it is in the States but here in the UK, children are raising children. The black babies are raising more babes then other community which is really sad. I think for us in the UK the problem first started in the early 60s when my generation became the first generation to be born in the UK, we lost all our parents values and standard from the West Indies and took on the white man's don’t care attitude. But we forgot we were growing up in a white man's country and it didn’t matter to a white man if he didn’t get a good education because he would still get a good job. It didn’t matter if the white women got pregnant at a young age her mother would take her to abortion clinic or she would get married.

I really don’t believe that women don’t want to get married any more, when you hear a woman say that its either she has been married already or she is tried of people asking her when she is going to get married, so it looks better if she said she doesn’t want to get married.

The problem again in the UK the black man does not want to get married. I am 46 years and I have a group of 6 black lady friends who I hang out with, we are all the same age but no marriage between us, that is not unusual for the UK. Fortunately I had my daughter at a young age so I had my child, I was waiting until I got married to have another child but that never happened and my time clock has ran out. But if most women think like that we would not be having children without fathers, I am tired of the excuse it was an accident why the women got pregnant, but what if he gave you AIDS, then what.

To change the problem we have today is to change our attitude and teach the young ones. I have grown now but I have started teaching my grandchildren about love, about God and about fearing the rod.

We have serious crisis in the UK. In most class rooms in the UK 80% of the children do not have two parents at home. 40% don't even know there fathers.

Hello,
I live here is Oklahoma City , Oklahoma. I am a single mother of 3 beautiful children ( 14, 17, 20)and a black business owner. I can apprecite all the discussion about the topic of family and marriage. I believe what we really need to be talking about is what are we doing ,as individuals, to correct these and other issues we face in our communities.
The idea behind presenting an issue is coming up with a solution and sharing with other how you are changing things in your community. Talking about it is great but the real healing begins when we take action and responsibility for the state of our people.
I personally decided (when I had my first son when I was 17) that I would start talking to other teens when the opportunity presented itself. I have spoke to young ladies that are virgins, girls having sex and little girls about to be mothers. They are so grateful to hear "I have been where you are and I am not judging you!" I know talking to these girls will not stop teen pregnancy today but image the impact I am having on a little girls life who doesnt have anyone else to talk to about sex or options.
I believe that we must "teach" our children to be good decision makers so they understand the consequences and commitment behind making a decision.
I think we all need to stop talking and start acting. Our children need us and if you are listening and not talking you can hear their cry.........valettawright@wrightinvestmentfunding.com

As a woman, who has been reasonably happily married to the same man for nearly 42 years, I can say that I am guilty of encouraging my 16 year old granddaughter to think of procreation as the only reason to get married, since I do not believe in having children without the benefit of marriage. I think the reason I discourage marriage is that I had to really fight to be my own person in my marriage for so many years. Although my husband really changed for the better over the years, he was never physically abusive but on an emotional level he was not supportive of me as his wife, I still remember the loneliness I felt during those early years. So, I feel that if you are going to feel alone in a marriage you might as well really be alone and forget about marriage altogether. Also, I don't want my granddaughter to marry a man who only wants to boss her around.

It amazes me that anyone could entertain a question like this. Weddings occur annually and nobody asks at the wedding. How long do you think the wedding will last while participants are sucking down champagne? Marriage is about teamwork and committment. However, how can weak people stay married when they live in a sex crazed nation. Viagra and Cialis are drugs promoted on a daily basis. The American people are accostumed to the word "affair" when adultry occurs in a marriage. The young people witness all these things and mixed messages are swirling within their craniums (heads).

If we as nation and Black Nation want to improve the quality of our marriage and encourage people to marry we must submit to the three E's educate, enlighten, and encourage. IT WORKS.

Edited by author 02-08-2007 06:37 PM
I am 28 years old, working on my second Master's Degree and climbing the corporate ladder. I have had a couple of great relationships that I think could have ended in successful marriages; however, a lot of men and women, like myself are placing more focus on education and careers and leaving marriage as a future endeavor. I think in order for a marriage to work (outside looking in), self fulfillment must be met.

The capital words are not shouts, but for emphasis...because we need to emphasize the solution.

Problem: The Black Family is destroying itself and Being destroyed externally as well, as a result The Black family has less succesful marriages and more divorces.

Solution: Very Simple...but not easy for weak minds...that solution is...

STOP ADOPTING THE NEGATIVE CULTURAL NORMS OF YOUR FORMER ENSLAVERS!

From the Cape to Cairo, from South America to Canada, Black folk generally imitate the negative side of the people who have socio-economically (and militarily) attacked and conquered them. These negative habits are things the dominant society tries to get rid of, while we Black/African folk wear the negative habits like a badge of honor. Combine that with the external socio-economic domination we face, and it's not rocket science as to why we are in our current condition. History and even science prove that an oppressed and/or marginialised people who combine the SINS of the dominant society with their own will ALWAYS MULTIPLY THEIR INTERNAL PROBLEMS. Here are some examples:

Street Gangs--
started by Irish, German, and European Immigrants in the pre-Civil War era. Now...Black folk out do these "imigrants" in their gang violence.

Lack of Sprituality--
even though we all have religious difference, We have African/Blacks in general had more spirtuality than the Euro-American society that is now dominant. However, we "integrated" their collective disregard for a higher power into our already beseiged culture. Now we want to out do them in their total disregard for anything spiritual

Sexual Promiscurity--
Although sex is natural, African/Black people used to excorsise a RELATIVE level of restraint when compared to the Euro-American society that was litterally beaten, raped, and lynched into our ancestors. Now look at us... our so-called entertainment media(not just rap) is much more encouraging of self-destructive sexual activity and lifestyles.

Misrepresented Understanding of Gender--
We adopted the Eur-Asian view of how one gender relates to another,which glorified and exagerated the "battle between the sexes",and the false notion of men having a "feminine side", adopting feminism instead of womens rights etc. When we compare the original African definitions to those imposed on us, then we should be astonished that there are human beings of the opposite sex left on earth...of ANY ethnic group...who truly love each other!

Over Indulgence in Looking Prestigious--
We have our "Black Think Tank", NAACP, Urban Leage, SCLC conferences and banquets spend millions of dollars for excessive conferences...at White-owned hotels, stadiums, and other establishments...to preach to the chior about our family business. This is done for grandstanding and looking "sophisticated" and prestigious, with the majority of the participants not willing to takle our family problems with ideas PROVEN to work!

I could go on an on, but I think we all get the point. We Black/African people adopt everyting negative from non-Blacks and almost NOTHING positve! While some people laugh at the African-centered solution...that can still put our relationship with God first WITHOUT contradicting GOD or our people... keep in mind that most of what we adopted from non-Black people have been severely harmful to our mind,body and soul! A strong people uses their own ORIGINAL cultures they were divinely designed for to solve their problems...a weak people...unfortunately us as group...try to use someone else's culture to solve problems. In our case, we Black folk are trying to Black-ize everything negative about this society...and have the NERVE to wander why we are suffering!

For those that are serious, relathionship worksops are done programming by LIB Radio (www.libradio.com)and other people who are serious about helping the Black family. I would also suggest reading Dr. Kobi Kambons book African/Black Psychology in the American Context. Extensive Chapters deal with the Black family.

peace and love

Role Models. Who are our role models. Oprah and Stedman. They aren't even married! Where are the married couples and happy families......

You are so right Ms. Perry and that is why I have asked the public to "Show Me A Family". There has not been a good role model for families, marriages, and leadership for our culture in a while. The younger generation has taken on the mindset of the hip hoppers and the shake the tails syndrome for excellence. Something is very wrong and even adults have accepted some of this wayward foolishness that have minimized the intelligence of our people and former teachings.

I believe that it now takes longer to get established and many African Americans aren't getting married because of factors that cause them to be in school longer. Such as having to hold down a job while completing school, and due to these forces, unfortunately life does not stop, and love will still find you as you prepare for your future. So shacking up seems to be a more viable option than actually doing it right and getting married.

At some point, men need to "break the curse" of our parents and grandparents and decide that we're going to do the hard, yet rewarding, work of leading our families. "Okay, my dad wasn't around, I don't see a lot of good examples in the media, my friends seem to be doing something else, but I'm going to marry one woman, stay married to her, and try to raise my children in a positive environment, with the help of God."

Unfortunately, the young men who need to might be influenced to make such a declaration will not be reading this discussion. I have been successfully married for nearly 12 years, and I'm not nurturing any young men, or mentoring, so I guess I am part of the problem. I've learned how to lead a family, stay faithful, be a positive member of God's Kingdom and our society, but I haven't passed on what I've learned except in an informal way.

I wonder how our black churches could take on the role of mentoring young men, rather than perpetuating the unhealthy family structures to which we've become accustomed?

I think if we as men acted with more strength and commitment, the ship would slowly begin to right itself.

Kas your point is well taken but to say that women like me are not going anywhere is a huge assumption that you guys seem to be making and mostly to your own detriment. But hey, if that is the way you have to function then so be it.
And would I date an ugly guy? I do not really see people as ugly but even if i found him unattractive, then yes I would if he treated me nicely. I am all about the person not the bling bling so to speak. I have done it before as a matter of fact. Didnt work out though.

RB, you are right. A big part of the solution is mentoring. The older/wiser instructing the younger. Dr. Harold Davis spoke at length about this in my interview with him (Everybody, check out the state of the black family page).

The mentoring he and the other men have done through TALKS Mentoring Program have transformed lives. We can't be everyone's dad or mom, but its been proven (boys and girls club/big brothers big sisters, etc.) that mentoring makes a huge impact.

Perhaps we cannot change some of the older guys and gals who are set in their ways (although GOD can), but we CAN begin to impact the up and coming generation in a more intentional way.

The Word of God actually commands us to. Thanks RB for reminding us.

Anita
Executive Editor
Keeping Family First

Donald, your post on 61 hits the nail dead on the head. Society is so jacked up that of course marriage wouldnt be exempt from the equation.

I must say the reason I feel that Black people are not getting married is the need some feel to compete and measure one another on a monetary scale.
I ran a test recently and posted information on a Black meeting site; weeks 1-3 I received limited respones when no income was in my bio, the next 3 weeks with my salary mentioned I received 45 hits and more than 1/2 were from the same women that passed me ny in weeks 1-3.
We have not grasped the concept of working togetherand confidently relying on our partner to do their part.
I come form a home where my parents are married for 64 years and each sister is going on 25, and I am in my 27th year.
We were taught that marriage is teamwork and no one role or partner is defined by what they do to make it work for the good of the family.

Edited by author 02-09-2007 08:12 PM
I think this is a really lovely website, with interesting articles, and lively discussions. I think when it comes to resolving the crisis within the black American family that many of the solutions presented here are very valuable.

My problem is when it comes to this challenge as is with many of our challenges as African Americans I feel we are extremely intolerant, and exclusive group of people. I'm not Christian, and I wish for once that when I pick up a book about " The Black Family" or any other issue in our community people would stop projecting their christian beliefs onto everybody else, and stop assuming all black people are Christian. What about those of us who are Jewish or Muslim? Some solutions proposed only accomodate people who are Christian, and exclude everybody else. It's double standard to allow for the inclusion of Christanity in fighting off societal ills affecting the family but exclude other traditions as unworthy. That is exactly the message this constantly being sent.

With all the brilliant thinkers out there, I would gather, they could create a solid solution or action plan enclusive of all human beings.

Thank you

Merriam

Edited by author 02-10-2007 04:23 PM
Merriam,
This so happens to be a Christian site; so all we will discuss is the foudation of the site itself. Everyone has a right to believe what they want right or wrong but a person can only discuss what works for them and what they seem to have adapted to.The majority of African Americans including Muslims and Jews have taught the teachings of Christ and that is to maintain the wellbeing of all mankind regardless of beliefs or culture.Whatever your faith or believe is, the question is what are you, we or us are going to do about the situation and "STOP" attacking anyone for any reason when not warranted. Keep peace flowing and we will all get there together.

Hotep/Greetings. Not to disrespect the sister who made it, but let us examine what's wrong with this quote.

"With all the brilliant thinkers out there, I would gather, they could create a solid solution or action plan enclusive of all human beings."

We must realize that no solution or action plan is designed to "include" everybody...because truth only includes people willing to accept it...even when it's not something they do not want to hear. For example, Christian site or not, the responses here transcended all relgions and all religions (and even some athiest) were in agreement on the BASICS of what needs to be done. We (Black folk) are drowning as a people, should we reject the truth because we don't like it, or the majority of those voicing it are "Chrisitans"? Should we drown?

Unfortuantely, adopting the Eurocentric version of being a "liberal"...which means being tolerant of any and every socio-political, religious, and economic ideal has ALWAYS been the undoing...and sometimes complete destruction of any society. Even athiests and other non-Chrisitian people understand that to include everybody would be to be self-destructive because everybody can not be pleased and everbody does not want to be "saved"...even when not saving them means they will drown!

We had better get serious about this. There will be many, many casualties of war because some people would rather face destruction...even literally...than do what's most effective for their "salvation"

peace and love

Samuel,
I paused and wondered if I should respond to your email because some people like to debate and argue and this is not what this topic nor site is for. Every sister or brother on this site has a name and when we want to address someone we should at least address them by their name respectibly. What you are saying is what I said and this topic is not individualism but for a corporate solution for our people (Blacks not Marrying). Let us stay focused, in love respectfully, understanding and righteous, while we "ALL" come up with reasonable responses that will help us all with the crisis and this same attack against our people and one another. Let us put all negative energy and responses back where they belong, from among us eternally with agape. Much love and forgiveness for a slight misunderstanding of a writer and her opinion to help in another or rather previous misunderstanding. May God keep and bless us all.

Good evening, Apostle Denise Isaac. With all due respect, I too am not one to debate, personal attacks, nor did my post encourage individualism,but how impossible it is to please everybody. Not mentioning Merriam's name was for 2 reasons. One was that you addressed her personally already, the other was that I was addressing the ideology behind her comment since I've seen, heard and felt the same type of comment a lot in the past few weeks. As far as disrespect,I stated that my intention was not to do that from the begining. So I must only assume Merriam understands unless she responds otherwise. I have no intentions of duplicating posts, nor being mean-spirited to anyone, though I write with a sense of urgency. Just stating what I feel we refuse to look at as a people, though I beat the dead horse with 2 posts.

Edited by author 02-14-2007 11:11 AM
Samuel,
I appreciate your responding and I am a communicator and that is one reason why our people fail in the marriage or relationship area because people do not communicate. I am so grateful for you to respond back because I thought you were referring to my email. Now you see why the name was so important. I was the last sister before your comment. I know what assume means, so excuse me and let us continue forward in the battle to win over all the obstacles and I love you more for it. COMMUNICATION IS A VALUABLE TOOL-USE IT "ALWAYS". Enjoy your day and year ahead.Out of all our getting, let us get a good understanding and we have. Good bless you Samuel. Also, "FORGIVE" me for assuming/misunderstanding.

If you are the product of a broken home like many of us are, then you could become what you see. However if you make a commitment to change that cycle when you grow up, the story has a different ending. There is too much dependence on celebraties, movies stars and athletes. Look into your communities for the real heroes, look hard enough, they are there.

Good evening Miss Issac

In my haste to restate my points and reply to Merriam, I got your first name mixed up with the male form, Denis, instead of Denise. I apologize for missing that. I seemed to have caused this initial confusion.

While I don't know if I'll sound like a broken record or not, I hope some of the solutions to our marriage/family crises posted in my very first message will be seriously considered. I assume most on this post are highly spiritual, putting God first (including myself), so the only thing second I feel we should put is the positive aspects of our African cultures for reparing our Black marriages and preventing breakdowns of new ones. As a collective, African/Black folk express spirituality more, believe in God and/or a higher power more, and attend worship services more than our Eur-Asian counter-parts. This is not "reverse racism" or "un-Christian" talk, this is based upon research by those who have litterally dedicated their lives...and given their lives...to study our past and present condition...which includes our collective behavior (Black/African people) since time immemorial.

Unfortuantely, when imperfect, sinful human beings adopt the other sins of their oppressors (aka African/Blacks adopting sins of Eur-Asians) they merely compound their problems, which undoubtedly includes failed marriages, and lack of marriages. The Biblical example of the Hebrews, "a stiffnecked people" are a perfect example of how groups of human beings can compound their already existing problems!

While many Pan-Africanists ideals are not taken seriously by "African-Americans", when facts are examined, we "African Americans" imitate mostly the NEGATIVE spiritual and moral cultural patterns of the very people we complain about! Divorcing at the drop of a hat, or "shakin up" being included in this. As stated in our first post, we strive to be so much "like them" that we out do "them" in their excess.

I had the pleasure of visiting the Gullah people of the U.S. Coastal Isands this past weekend. For those who don't know,these are "African-Americans" who maintained much of their African heritage, and some of the languages during and after slavery. Although they have their problems with drugs, dispair, poverty, etc., as a COLLECTIVE, they have more marriages, less single-parent homes, more LOVE among kindred, better school performance,etc., than the rest of us Black folk. I can name countless other examples, but it would take several pages.

I hope we look at combining the best from our past African cultures with our spirituality. This is the only thing that "African-Americans", as a collective, have not tried.

peace and love

I would first like to thank Minister Mary Edwards for introducing me to this absolutely amazing web-site. It has certainly been developed for "such a time as this." I have read through a great many of the responses on the topic of discussion "Why aren't African Americans Marrying"? and will try to make this as brief as I possibly can. In March of 2004, my husband and I began a ministry under the direction of the Lord, called "Young Married Couples Covenant Connection". Our goal was to "Raise the Standard of Holy Matrimony" through the teaching of the Word of God, and believing prayer to encourage, strengthen and empower the young couples God had sovereignly placed in our lives, with tools to fortify their marriages. Under the direction of the Holy Spirit, last September (2006) we began hosting a tele-conference call every Thursday evening (EST) from 9:00 PM - 10:00 PM (EST)in an all out effort to provide help from the sanctuary!!!! We were able to present older seasoned couples as special speaker's who dissected Holy Matrimony and used couples in scripture as well as personal testimony to instill prinicples and values necessary to maintain a healthy marriage.
We were even more compelled after the Columbus Dispatch, Sunday, August 20, 2006, posted an article titled,"Too Wary to Marry", "Young blacks see marriage as a doomed entrapment", in which a 15 year old African American young lady said, and I quote from the Dispatch, "I don't know anyone who's married, or anybody who is married and stayed married." A 16 year old African American young man who summed marriage as "launching a power struggle be