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< replied-to message removed by QT >

hey why not have a place where you can have like the news? what ever you want you can maybe say you want updates on sports, music or like boring news, weather.

it'd be nice to be able to open the sites in another tab, because i don't like having to go reload it when i want to get another link...

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< replied-to message removed by QT >

What browsers would you recommend we support in an import utility? We have discussed but delayed such implementation as it seems that support of each browser would have to have separate code.

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Thanks for your response. Must admit I'd not thought of using that keyboard thingy to do the scrolling, you're right, it works! and I'm embarassed.

Another suggestion to make things better would be to allow the user to edit the web page title as some sites put things in the page title that are way to long or designed to appeal to search engines.

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I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is that you can click and hold the arrow keys on your keyboard to quickly scan through your sites. The bad news is that you'll have to wait a little while to see some of the features you're talking about get into SiteShuffle. These are all great suggestions btw! We'll be releasing an IE (and maybe Firefox) toolbar very shortly, this will give you the ability to add links to your shuffle, and other stuff too.

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Or we're just lazy. That's also a possibility :-)

Keep on Shuffling!


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It could be so much more if there were a few more features, my wish list to make it more friendly/usable would be:

1. The ability to arrange the display order of the link list.
2. The ability to import an icon, many of the sites I visit dont seem to have icons and you so just end up with a long unintelligable stream of /// symbols in the linked list, it makes things hard to find.
3. Having to click/click/click takes ages, can it be make that click & hold on the left/right buttons scrolls through the list.
4. The ability to import my favourites list from IE.
5. An option to launch in a separate window.
6. To have a toolbar button to "Add to siteshuffle"

Its a very nice concept, a portable favourites manager but currently IMHO its a little annoying to use because of the missing things.

Kate

Is there any way to import favourites? I'm just too lazy to use this anymore if I have to re-type everything.

I agree with datawhat, make it a toolbar and this thing kicks ass. I only go to about five sites a day, it would be great to have them all in one place.

thanks for listening,

M.

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This may have been mentioned before (I have trouble wrapping my brain around what some of these posts are about) but I think this would work best as a slim toolbar at the top of the screen.

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I've set cookies, but everytime I return I have to sign in before I can access my links. If I have to do that as my homepage and can't remain logged in between sessions it becomes a pain.

Other than that its good fun - I'd like to see a 'get more suggestions' option as well for further recommendations beyond the few I get. Also featured it at http://thenextbigwebthing.com as well (FYI)

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Yeah, I'm a bit mystified too. If, when you clicked on a link it launched it in a frame at the bottom (minimizing vertical space for the toolbar), then I could flip through my pages easily. Right now, all I get is a kinda awkward favorites list, and one that forgets recent additions if I go backward (Ajax).

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I understand the concept behind the referrals at the bottom, but I'd really like to be able to shut that off. That's good space that could be used to show the rss feed from the page that's up in the queue.

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It should work with RSS to not only list the sites I like but also give me an indication that the site has been updated.

Can I get this as a local extension to firefox? Where it just uses my homepages?

That would be much more my speed.

would be cool if this could be a plugin/extension so it is just embedded in the browser and you don't have to go back and forth to the page

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Truly good graphics. Now, the idea is excellent too, it's a nice way to have all my bookmarks together and the way you guys did the service is pretty much cool too. What I don't like is the yellow sign up box, I think it needs some improvement, or it needs to be in some other place; but that's just me.

Excellent job. I will print a T-Shirt with your face tomorrow first thing.

killerbeesateme (and others): We're launching an IE toolbar right after the O'Reilly Etech conference. This will probably have all the functionality you're looking for here. It probably won't look as good as the site, but it should do what you want it to do.

dave78981: This is your Shuffle page: http://siteshuffle.com/dave78981 (I'm assuming you're using the same username). I'm looking at it right now (looks good). If you set your browser homepage to this, or add a bookmark bar link you can get to your Shuffle any time you want. Maybe you're just going to http://siteshuffle.com? Thanks for trying it out!

you guys should make one change. make the greybar a permanent thing. do one of those frames like google images, except keep it silver with the cool buttons. I'd give up some screenspace just so i can click thru them like a slideshow. i'm sure you could pull it off. at least make it an optional feature. that way i could have my slideshow bookmarks wherever i go. I'd never have to type more than this URL again. hell, even throw in some google adwords into the silver bar. as long as they aren't obnoxious i'd still use it. that way you have constant advertising too. just a thought.

hey guys-

had some problems initially. i got a application error(rails) when i tried to create a linklist and now i'm unable to actually save a linklist beyond one session. any ideas on why this is happening? otherwise, it's pretty cool, but would be great if the ui stayed in a top frame while the various links loaded in the bottom.

Ok, some thoughts for the devs. Please take them in the constructive manner they are intended :-)

First, overall comments:
I don't like it. I've got del.icio.us, and my bookmarks - I don't need this.
I know this may not be what you are trying to achieve but for my money, this site would be great if you crossed it with a netvibes-esque RSS reader, with the ability to bookmark RSS feeds, not sites.
Have the screen split 3 ways. Top 100% horizontal "frame" similar to current, but left and right arrows load RSS feed from next "bookmark" into "frame" two, a 80% of horizontal "frame" which loads the RSS feed and then the final 20% of horizontal "frame" can pull up "similar feeds" or an amazon-like "people who have that RSS feed also have:" suggestions set. Hell, you could even try importing the del.icio.us tags to help find similar sites, but now I'm just brainstorming.

Specifics:
o Waaaaaay too busy, loads of links in columns just looks messy and gives a feeling of clutter and information overload. If it can't fit on a single scroll-free page, I don't want it.

o Patents pending: ORLY?

o Needs communitisation somehow.

Anyway, you asked for feedback ;-)

C;.

aixwiz: Thanks for trying out SiteShuffle! If anyone is exeriencing slow-downs right now it's because we're being Boingboinged. We've been tossing around the idea of letting folks import RSS feeds or OPML files to get their bookmarks into their lists. It might happen, stay tuned for updates.

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Removed: Too harsh. My bad.

It's like bookmarks, only the UI sucks, and it will soon have ads! Rejoice!

Neat idea! It would be nice if there was a way to upload a list of websites that we frequent rather than retyping every URL.

1) Please clear "Enter address or keyword(s)" when you click on the box so you don't have to select all first to write over it.

2) The home page is too busy. It'd be good if the number of recommendations was limited and there was a second page with all the recommendations.

Also echoing what others said about browser integration and private entries.

Thanks for the feedback. We are working on a browser toolbar that will do most of what you describe below. Additionally, we played with creating "theme" LinkLists like the one you describe below for media. We came up with ones for shopping, sports, pornography (not really), .... you get the picture. I liked these a lot and will drive a discussion to reintroduce them.

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hey guys lovin' the changes and find that. Im using it a lot ...find that I keep on wishing that it was actually permanently part of my browsing experience...is there a way to frame the sites i'm browsing below a very thin row of my siteshuffle scrollbar...so that after i'm finished with one site I can very quickly go to the next without hitting home...I would just click o the little icon for the next site or a little forwar and back buton and I'm there...especally when I'm blogging I find theres about ten sites I need to go to every day ...bloggers and journalists might me a good group to solicit feedback from they probably visit the same sites everyday...why dont you build a list of all the top tech writers in CA and US and send them a media kit..hmm forget the media kit but maybe something unique via email or live ...I'm rambling..nite

Yoli: We're thinking of letting users decide to keep their LinkLists private as an option during signup -- we'd like to inspire a spirit of homepage sharing and discovery, but we also understand that people need to track stuff that's private. If it makes the tool useful -- we'll consider it. Keep your eyes peeled for future releases.

need capability to keep some sites private
need alternate view that shows perhaps 80x80 images of the websites homepages in list
one time option to upload favourites list during sign up process
bite stumbleupon in some way
need to figure out some way to build community arouund this

Hi you guys; this is "Good John's" Mummy. Glad to see you're up and running, and if you want a REALLY tough test, it's me. I know very little about computer stuff, but I'm willing to learn. So I will be using this to organize info for our homebuilding project. Wish me luck!

Love the new filmstrip. Wish it worked on IE. Should also show web name when mousing over. Would be great if strip was centered (with links on right and left) by default. And finally, would be rockin' if favicons were positioned based on frequency of use.