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| Cathy Turner Boyd
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03-26-2006 01:00 AM ET (US)
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O.K. folks, this is what I have received as to the info from Leondias E. Moody (Death Certificate): Lived Precinct 3 - Kauf. Co., TX. Lenght of Residence - 60 yrs.
L.E. Moody - widowed Date of Death - August 26, 1929 Cause of death - Peilagra Birth - Feb. 12, 1851 Place of Birth - Upshur Co., TX Farmer Name of Father - H. Moody Place of birth of Father - Unknown Maiden name of mother - Unknown Informant - Ed Musgraves Buried - Weaver Cemetery
This was on the City of Terrell Death Certificate also, so he died in the city. As to the place of birth of his father, we have the info from Mike that his father was born in Alabama. Still looking for more info.
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03-26-2006 12:17 PM ET (US)
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Thanks for the leg-work and the information, Cathy. If you have the death certificate, could you scan the document and email it to the rest of us if we give you our email addresses?
Reta, any thoughts about "H Moody" amd your "William Ayres Moody"? Did your William have a brother whose name began with an "H"?
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Mike Mackey
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03-26-2006 12:19 PM ET (US)
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Louise, could you email me, please? The last one I sent you came back at me. I have some non-Moody family info to send you.
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| Reta Ackerman
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03-27-2006 04:11 PM ET (US)
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Hi, sorry but I don't have a clue who H. Moody is. My ggf was listed as Ayres on the 1870 census. I was hoping Leondias's father was listed as Wm Ayres. I have sent off for the death record of Mrs. J. R. Lindsey (Callie). Maybe it will have a little more information. I know Callie is my ggmothers sister so Leondias would be her brother. The person listed as Leondias's brother on his obit is James Ayres known as Bud. His relatives have his father listed as Wm Ayres. He lived in Cleveland Co., Ok. I will let you know what I find on the death record for Callie. I would like a copy of Leondias's record. My email is ackerman25@juno.com. Thanks Reta
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Mike Mackey
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03-27-2006 10:07 PM ET (US)
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Mine is Mike@execuclean.com
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| Louise
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04-04-2006 04:56 PM ET (US)
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I hope everyone got my new email address sorry again for any trouble it caused. It is lustivers@yahoo.com now OK
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| Reta Ackerman
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04-05-2006 02:31 PM ET (US)
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I sent for Frances's (Callie) death record in Kaufman Co. but they could not find one. So I will just have to keep searching. I appreciate all the help you guys have done. Thanks Reta
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| Cathy Turner Boyd
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04-06-2006 02:07 PM ET (US)
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Reta, Callie might have died in Hunt Co. - you might want to check there.
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Mike Mackey
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07-31-2006 10:17 PM ET (US)
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Hi, Moodys, et al. Been a while since there's been in posting, so let me throw out what I think may be quite interesting--at least to me. Up until recently I had no reason to believe there were any other links between the Mackey family and the Moody family other than my g-grandparents Robert and Nancy Jane Moody Mackey, Nancy Jane being a daughter of James and Mary Lou Moody.
However, I have recently been looking at a rather mysterious member of the Mackey family, Martha, Robert Mackey's older sister who, according to Kaufman County marriage records married Silas Cantrell. Other than that bit of knowledge, we've known nothing about her. Then looking at my family tree I find a Mattie E. Cantrell who was the second wife of William Washington Moody. Below are two postings I made to the Mackey discussion site. Please have a look. Do you agree that it would appear that Mattie Cantrell and Martha Mackey Cantrell are the same person?
07-25-2006 01:02 PM ET (US) Perhaps someone can help me here. I am relooking at Martha E. Mackey, J.T. and Martha's daughter. According to records she was born in 1863 (census) and married Silas Cantrell in July 1881 (county records). Silas died in 1885 (I think that came from the county, too) leaving her a widow. There she disappears. No indication of children. No indication of her death.
However, in JT's obituary there is no mention of her. I thought that the elusive "Mrs. E. Hampton of Chisolm" might be her but I can't find her or anyone by that name and am left to think what I thought earlier: Mrs. Hampton was somehow a reporter's error.
Is Martha dead by 1909? What was her last name by that time if she were still alive?
I went back to the Kaufman County marriage records and searched for "Martha E. Cantrell". This is what I got: Mattie E. Cantrell marrying William Washington Moody on Jan 28, 1886.
"Mattie" died not long after and William Washington Moody (b-1858)(not to be confused with his cousin William E. Moody) remarried (third time) to Mrs. Alice Virginia Flatt Smith in August of 1894. The Moodys had several children. In the listing I have, which came from the censuses. The 1900 census list 3 children in the family that would have been born previous to the start of the marriage to Mrs. Smith: Eva Moody 12/1886 (10-11 months after the wedding to Mattie) Nora Moody 3/1888 Cleo Moody 2/1890
Logic says these were his children by his previous wife, Mattie Cantrell. Because she did not live long enough after her marriage to Moody, there is nothing I know of about her, other than her name, which is the same as our missing [Mackey] relative. I find no evidence of an unmarried Martha (or Mattie) E. Cantrell living earlier in Kaufman County, leaving me to believe that she gained the Cantrell name through marriage and was a widow when she married Moody. Moody was born in 1858 in Kaufman County which would make him about five years older than our Martha--which would be just about right.
Incidentally, W W Moody is also a relative of mine. His first cousin, Nancy Jane Moody, was the wife of Robert D. Mackey, son of J.T. and Martha. William was the son of Henry Moody who was the state/federally appointed Reconstruction-era sheriff of Kaufman County briefly during the late 1860's. Like the Mackeys, the Moodys were Primitive Baptists and lived in the Elmo area generally. When Robert came back to TX in '99 or '00 it was to move next door to his mother-in-law Mary Louise Andrews Moody.
Next Posting:
I found Mattie E. Moody at the Weaver Cemetery in Kaufman County, which is pretty much a Moody family burial ground. Her stone there reads, according to the website, "Moody, Mattie E. 27 Nov. 1864 - 18 Jul. 1893, w/o W. W. Moody" The 1870 census gives Martha Mackey's approx birth as 1863 and the 1880 census gives her approx birth as 1865. Here's how I have the lives of the "two" Martha's compared:
In the late 19th cenutry in Kaufman county there are possibly two individuals named Martha E. Cantrell (Martha E. Mackey Cantrell & Mattie E. Cantrell). Or maybe they are the same person:
Martha E. Mackey who married Silas Cantrell was born sometime about 1863-1865 Mattie E. Cantrell was born Nov 27, 1864
Martha E. Mackey married Silas Cantrell July 7, 1881 Silas Cantrell died in 1885
Mattie E. Cantrell married William Washington Moody Jan 28, 1886 Mattie E. Cantrell (according to gravemarker) died July 18, 1893
Martha E. Mackey Cantrell is never heard from again after Silas' death.
Maybe the rest of you folks had already seen and contemplated this info, I hadn't. It seems quite probable to me that Martha Cantrell and Mattie Cantrell are the same person. No proof here, though.
What do you think?
By the way, according to Don Bishop's book on the Stovalls, Martha E Stovall Mackey, Martha E. Mackey Cantrell's mother, went by the name "Mattie".
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10-21-2006 09:32 PM ET (US)
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Good evening everyone. I am just a newcomer who was browsing google tonight and saw the references to the Moody's and so came a'runnin! Parker J. Moody was my GGGgrandfather. I am related down into the Oklahoma lines to many Cottrell's and Moody's. I got a lot of my info from my grandmother Lurah Victoria Shelton who came to Oklahoma from Alabama. I live in Ft Worth, TX. My website is http://www.jimcsmith.net and I also post my data on rootsweb.com I am looking forward to what I can learn here! P.S. I am the Jim Smith that Mike Mackey was referring to in his posts earlier this year. If you are still here Mike I look forward to getting to know you.
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10-22-2006 10:10 AM ET (US)
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| Janice Golden
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11-19-2006 04:32 PM ET (US)
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Hi Everyone,
I am very excited about finding this site with all this information about the Moody family! Okay, here's how I fit into the family tree: my paternal grandmother was Sarah Francis Moody, a daughter of James and Mary Louise Moody. I have only recently started researching my family tree, so I am a real newbie at all this. My Dad (Frank Slaughter) and all his brothers and sisters are gone now, so that source of information no longer exists. I will try not to be a pest to those of you who know what you're doing.:)
The only information I have about Mary Louise Andrews Moody's parents is that her father's name was William Andrews, b. 1811 in KY, married Agnes (unknown) about 1835 in KY. Since Mary Louise was born in Nacogdoches, TX in 1840 (pretty early for a Texas native), I wondered if her family might have been one of the "Old Three Hundred" who were brought to Texas by Stephen F. Austin. I checked a listing of the "Old Three Hundred" and lo and behold, there is a William Andrews! Does anyone know if this is Mary Louise's family for sure?
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Welcome, Janice. I am a descendant of Nancy Jane Moody (my g-grandmother), the older sister of Sarah. Old family lore in my branch of the family says that John and Sarah Slaughter and family were in the same church as Robert and Nancy Jane Moody. This may have still been the case after Sarah died and John remarried. My grandfather who was a child at the time remembered it and told my Dad, Frank Mackey Jr, about it. I would like to know more about your family. Can you share with us your family tree information? I don't know much about the "300", but weren't the land grants made by the Mexican government in about 1824? If the connection between the Andrews family and the Austin settlers be proven, this would be a very interesting family-history development. Here's a web-page you might find interesting. The Moody family photo album. All the folks pictured are descendants of William and Celia Moody. http://www.execuclean.com/family_tree/MOODY_album.htmIf you like, you are welcome contact me personally at Mike@execuclean.com
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11-19-2006 09:49 PM ET (US)
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Janice, I just spent an hour or so on the phone with my Dad, Frank Mackey Jr, and he reminded me of some things that he remembered his dad, Frank Mackey Sr, talking about when he was a kid, and I recalled something that my Aunt Louise mentioned. If you're reading this, Louise, please correct or add to, would you? After my grandparents had gone down to Louisiana to see their daughter, Louise where she was stationed in the army in 1970, they were headed over to Kermit, TX to see your uncle Herman. Grandpa and Herman were fairly close as first cousins go. The way I understand it Herman was a long-haul trucker or something like that and would try to swing by Sayre/Elk City when he could, just to visit. Unfortunately my grandparents never got to Herman's because they were killed in a car wreck. Was Frank your dad's middle-name? Was his first name William? I'm trying to get a handle on him in the Social Security index. Here is my web-page showing the Moody genealogy as I have it. It's not quite up-to-date, but pretty close. Henry Moody was William Moody's father. http://www.execuclean.com/family_tree/moodyfami/index.htm
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11-20-2006 03:57 PM ET (US)
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Hi Mike, Thanks for your kind welcome. I have been looking at all the photos, obits, etc. on the website. They are great! I had found the (later) picture of Mary Louise Moody on the Kaufman County "Kith and Kin" page and emailed Susan to thank her for posting it, even though I didn't know if she uses that email address any longer. It was only the second Moody ancestor photo I had ever seen. I have one family photo of my grandparents, John C. Slaughter and Sarah Francis Moody and six of their eight sons. If you want it, I'll scan it and email it to you.
As I said, I'm a REAL newbie to family research, although I have always been interested in it. Back in the early 1970's, I tried to pick the brains of my dad and his brothers at our family reunion but I got very little information from them. I concluded that there was a conspiracy among them to keep some deep, dark family secret.:) Anyway, I really only started looking for information in August and haven't input anything into a file yet. I have been looking at genealogy software. Do most of you use Family Tree Maker 10? Or do you recommend something else? I am compiling our family's information and have asked my sisters, brother and some cousins for their information so that it will be as accurate as possible. When I get it into a file, I'll be glad to send it to you.
Re William Andrews and the "Old Three Hundred", I feel certain that Mary Louise's father was too young to have been awarded a land grant if he was indeed born in 1811. I was thinking maybe her grandfather. That's why I asked if you had any information farther back.
Yes, my father's name was William. There was always some confusion about which name came first. Social Security had it as William Frank, but when he ordered his and my mom's marker, he had Frank William put on it. He always went by Frank, though.
I saw something on this message board about you writing a book about the Moody family. I would really be interested in getting one. And also something about a book you're working on now? Is it about the Mackey family?
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11-20-2006 04:20 PM ET (US)
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I would very much like to have the picture. I will try to get it posted to the Moody photo album, as well, so others can download it. Good to have you aboard with your fresh information and insight.
The book I am currently working on would not touch your line. It is about the Harder family. However, a book I wrote last summer entitled "The Mackey Family of Beckham County: The Story of Robert and Nancy Jane Mackey, their Ancestors and Descendants 1832-1945, does have quite a bit about the Moodys. Among other bits of Moody history, it deals with James A Moody (your great-grandfather) and his brother's war service (Union) and some other interesting bits of information. The book has been updated recently and some factual errors have been corrected. The genealogy information has been updated and expanded, too. The book sells for $15.95 plus $2.00 shipping (media rate) for a total of $17.95.
I have mentioned the possibility of doing a Moody-specific book, but will wait until my current project is over before seriously exploring it. The other book I wrote on my Bloomer and Deyo family history would be of no interest to you at all.
Can you post here your family tree information from your grandparents on down? I'm sure many would appreciate it.
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