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getting there
05-21-2013
08:44 PM ET (US)
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northcarrier....If it is only a 24 mile commute, I would take it, I know people who said they were going to retire over 6 years ago and they are still here. Remember as a PTF it routes start disappearing, your hours could go away. As a regular, you are guaranteed 40 hours, but you could be excesed. With all that said, I would jump on it to be regular
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05-21-2013
08:15 PM ET (US)
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So Tired
I was also told by shop steward about being converted june 1st some t-6 positions were being released and Sacramento district has a few t-6 positions being released hope it happens but I won't believe it til I recieve that golden form
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21yearptf
05-21-2013
08:10 PM ET (US)
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Northcarrier The only thing that I can think of is that if you are in an office that small it isnt going to be for long. With all of the duo's going on I can't believe your not already in a different office. That being said, if I could guarantee being a regular I would do it in a minute. as long as where your going isn't an absolutely horrible place.
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21yearptf
05-21-2013
07:53 PM ET (US)
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Anyone here make or know any one who made regular recently? I was told that I was to be converted on 5-18 by my Postmaster and later confirmed that everything was a go, by her, but I haven't gotten a form 50 yet and my personnel file online hasn't changed either. Not sure how I'm supposed to know for sure. I certainly don't trust management.
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egark  05-21-2013
07:16 PM ET (US)
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So tired /m8591 -- good for you if it actually happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMcA-HGVo6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tu2eZpA4yo
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So.tired
05-21-2013
07:02 PM ET (US)
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Can't believe it but was told today by postmaster and steward that I will be making reg on the 1st. Not gonna get to excited until the form is in my hands but sounds good. Oh it's a t6 position.
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Northcarrier 05-21-2013
05:42 PM ET (US)
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I am in a small office as a PTF. There is only 1 regular and me. The regular states that he is retiring sometime between Feb and July of 2014. He's counting the days. I have an opportunity to travel to a larger office 24 miles away to become a regular before they start hiring their CCA's. I am hedging on if I should stay where I am and wait for the regular position, or transfer out to the large office and make regular ASAP. I think the position is also a T6. Should I wait until the May 24th to see what changes are being made in the process. Also, if I transfer, would any of my vacation that is signed by canceled too? This is such gamble anymore. I guess I would like feed back on the pros and cons of my situation. Thanks.
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moxieman
05-21-2013
01:54 AM ET (US)
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getting there, that's true in an individual office, but not nationally. If there are no PTF's in an office, but there's a CCA, the CCA will be converted. (After May 24th) It doesn't matter if the office the next town over has 10 PTF's.
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getting there
05-20-2013
09:16 PM ET (US)
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PTF's will be converted first because they are already career, and the contract says so. CCA's are not career and wont be until they are converted
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Jeanne
05-20-2013
02:15 PM ET (US)
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I heard a rumor today that the PTF carriers in Chicago were all been converted today can anyone deny or confirm that rumor
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almost retired
05-20-2013
10:57 AM ET (US)
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Hey So.Tired. If you have vacant routes in your office and you are a PTF they have no choice but to convert you. There is no holding open routes unless you are under withholding and I don't believe any one is anymore. If you aren't file a grievance to get converted and ask for it to be retroactive to when the position became available.
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moxieman
05-20-2013
09:38 AM ET (US)
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/m8578 egark, I'm not sure what the intention of the national officers were in signing the recent MOU's regarding PTF transfers, but it would make sense that they would be interested in getting these PTF's in small offices working scanty hours converted to regular before converting the CCA's in offices where there are no PTF's. After May 24th, the CCA's can be converted. The CCA's (the ones that were formally TE's) are upset because they feel they have been dealt a 6 dollar an hour pay cut. (in reality the NALC saved their jobs because they would have just been shown the door). The CCA's (some of whom have stated this opinion on this forum) feel that it's not fair that they should have to wait for some career employee to come in and "jump" them (I know CCA's don't have seniority, but they will once converted) when they have been dealt a perceived 6-dollar an hour pay cut.
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Hondo1
05-19-2013
10:46 PM ET (US)
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It will be very interesting over the next three years as the end of the current contract approaches and as we know all PTFs are supposed to be converted by the end of that contract.Common sense would dictate that management would want to convert each PTF ASAP so as to not have to scramble to find fulltime positions for those still unconverted by the end of the contract.I have wondered many times over the past six or seven years when so many of us were wrongfully denied conversion to FT Regular were bonuses offered to POOMs,Postmasters,etc to not convert us.I do not know the answer to this.A second part to that question-if the answer is yes-is:Are bonuses still being offered to not convert PTFs to fulltime?Perhaps somebody who comes on this site can answer these questions.
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So.tired
05-19-2013
10:44 PM ET (US)
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Tell me guys what does the contract say about conversions in general. You know the part that has been in the contract time and time again. Something like route comes vacant senior flex converted. Yet we wait years and years to get converted and we hear be patient be glad you have a job bluh bluh bluh. Of course this comes from people who are regulars and maybe in there day waited less then a year to get converted. New contract says by end of contract all ptf's converted. We all get that but new contract did not delete old section that says vacant rte senior flex converted. I would understand if no rte was open for me but there is 2 and one is a t6.
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Jeanne
05-19-2013
10:12 PM ET (US)
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He. Can use wop
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egark 05-19-2013
08:48 PM ET (US)
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ptf815 /m8580 -- what happens when A/L runs out?
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