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Joe
05-21-2013
10:07 PM ET (US)
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Good point egark. I forgot to clarify I'm going to a large carrier annex that has 2 vacancies right now, and 2 that should be coming up in the near future. I'm the first one in, so I should be safe from any excessing from 5 day, with others to follow. On a side note, to transfer and have to learn 5 routes in a new town just wouldn't be worth it to get regular in my opinion. You'll probably get a better opportunity by the end of the contract.
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tired of all this
05-21-2013
09:56 PM ET (US)
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21yearptf- My supervisor was given a choice of dates to make me regular.He said the 18th and called personnel to make sure it was happening. I am being treated as a regular, first regular day off tomorrow!!!! No form 50 has shown up, but it is suppose to be in process. We called personnel and the one that is suppose to handle that is on/or was on vacation. Have your PM verify with a phone call that paperwork is being processed. Watch to make sure and how many hours you get paid if any as a PTF. They will eventually want the money back. Been there done that a couple of times. Good Luck
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egark  05-21-2013
09:41 PM ET (US)
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Joe /m8597 -- why is taking a transfer as a regular (not a T6) better as far as being excessed? You are the lowest seniority either way.
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Joe
05-21-2013
09:38 PM ET (US)
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Northcarrier, I personally wouldn't make the move to be a regular for a T6 job. If Saturday delivery happens sometime in the next two to three years, which the Postmaster General is still actively in favor of, you would no longer have a route. More than likely that would mean getting bumped out of your new office as you would be the lowest seniority Regular. I'm in the same boat as you, PTF in small office. I had an opportunity for a t6 job about 30 minutes away, but declined and took a Regular city carrier job 2 hours away. More security and no hastle of having to learn 5 routes, only 1. If you do decide to take a reassignment to another office, I would not do it as a t6. The reason why there are so many open is the regulars in those offices already don't want it if Saturday happens.
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getting there
05-21-2013
08:44 PM ET (US)
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northcarrier....If it is only a 24 mile commute, I would take it, I know people who said they were going to retire over 6 years ago and they are still here. Remember as a PTF it routes start disappearing, your hours could go away. As a regular, you are guaranteed 40 hours, but you could be excesed. With all that said, I would jump on it to be regular
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05-21-2013
08:15 PM ET (US)
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So Tired
I was also told by shop steward about being converted june 1st some t-6 positions were being released and Sacramento district has a few t-6 positions being released hope it happens but I won't believe it til I recieve that golden form
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21yearptf
05-21-2013
08:10 PM ET (US)
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Northcarrier The only thing that I can think of is that if you are in an office that small it isnt going to be for long. With all of the duo's going on I can't believe your not already in a different office. That being said, if I could guarantee being a regular I would do it in a minute. as long as where your going isn't an absolutely horrible place.
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21yearptf
05-21-2013
07:53 PM ET (US)
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Anyone here make or know any one who made regular recently? I was told that I was to be converted on 5-18 by my Postmaster and later confirmed that everything was a go, by her, but I haven't gotten a form 50 yet and my personnel file online hasn't changed either. Not sure how I'm supposed to know for sure. I certainly don't trust management.
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egark 05-21-2013
07:16 PM ET (US)
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So tired /m8591 -- good for you if it actually happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMcA-HGVo6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tu2eZpA4yo
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So.tired
05-21-2013
07:02 PM ET (US)
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Can't believe it but was told today by postmaster and steward that I will be making reg on the 1st. Not gonna get to excited until the form is in my hands but sounds good. Oh it's a t6 position.
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Northcarrier 05-21-2013
05:42 PM ET (US)
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I am in a small office as a PTF. There is only 1 regular and me. The regular states that he is retiring sometime between Feb and July of 2014. He's counting the days. I have an opportunity to travel to a larger office 24 miles away to become a regular before they start hiring their CCA's. I am hedging on if I should stay where I am and wait for the regular position, or transfer out to the large office and make regular ASAP. I think the position is also a T6. Should I wait until the May 24th to see what changes are being made in the process. Also, if I transfer, would any of my vacation that is signed by canceled too? This is such gamble anymore. I guess I would like feed back on the pros and cons of my situation. Thanks.
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moxieman
05-21-2013
01:54 AM ET (US)
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getting there, that's true in an individual office, but not nationally. If there are no PTF's in an office, but there's a CCA, the CCA will be converted. (After May 24th) It doesn't matter if the office the next town over has 10 PTF's.
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getting there
05-20-2013
09:16 PM ET (US)
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PTF's will be converted first because they are already career, and the contract says so. CCA's are not career and wont be until they are converted
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Jeanne
05-20-2013
02:15 PM ET (US)
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I heard a rumor today that the PTF carriers in Chicago were all been converted today can anyone deny or confirm that rumor
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On May 20, 2013, at 2:57 PM, QT - almost retired <qtopic-32-vr8neNkbS3J@quicktopic.com> wrote:
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almost retired
05-20-2013
10:57 AM ET (US)
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Hey So.Tired. If you have vacant routes in your office and you are a PTF they have no choice but to convert you. There is no holding open routes unless you are under withholding and I don't believe any one is anymore. If you aren't file a grievance to get converted and ask for it to be retroactive to when the position became available.
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moxieman
05-20-2013
09:38 AM ET (US)
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/m8578 egark, I'm not sure what the intention of the national officers were in signing the recent MOU's regarding PTF transfers, but it would make sense that they would be interested in getting these PTF's in small offices working scanty hours converted to regular before converting the CCA's in offices where there are no PTF's. After May 24th, the CCA's can be converted. The CCA's (the ones that were formally TE's) are upset because they feel they have been dealt a 6 dollar an hour pay cut. (in reality the NALC saved their jobs because they would have just been shown the door). The CCA's (some of whom have stated this opinion on this forum) feel that it's not fair that they should have to wait for some career employee to come in and "jump" them (I know CCA's don't have seniority, but they will once converted) when they have been dealt a perceived 6-dollar an hour pay cut.
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