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city guy
07:20 AM ET (US)
I am under the impression management does not have an avenue to force any ptf to transfer. This clearly states that if a ptf elects to transfer.... Am I off on my interpretation...I will check with national as soon as I can.
city guy
07:17 AM ET (US)
I was looking at m-01824 this morning. "Part-time flexible city letter carriers who elect reassignment to another installation through this agreement will receive retreat rights back to their original installation. Retreat rights will be offered to the first residual vacancy in the original installation that occurs when
there are no part-time flexible city letter carriers on the rolls of the original installation. City
letter carriers who exercise retreat rights will have their craft seniority restored, augmented
by time worked in the other facility, upon return to the original installation. Failure to
accept retreat rights ends the opportunity to retreat back to the original installation.
During the term of this agreement no reassignments in the city letter carrier craft will be
made within or between installations or from other crafts, unless the reassignment is made
based on a mutual exchange, through the Article 12 involuntary reassignment process, or
pursuant to this agreement.
City letter carriers accepting a voluntary reassignment under this agreement will begin a
new period of craft seniority in the gaining installation.
Employees moving between installations pursuant to the terms "
sweatyrubberthumbPerson was signed in when posted
11:19 PM ET (US)
City guy - I would be interested to know where that is in writing as well. I have a ptf who wants to stay a ptf and sit on an aux for ever.
city guy
08:52 PM ET (US)
Im ok with that and to be honest when I asked them I believe they told me exactly where to find it but I do not remember...I will check into it so that I can backup what I say.
egarkPerson was signed in when posted
07:17 PM ET (US)
city guy /m9246 - I am with comfortablynumb on this one. Where does it say that? Let Messrs. Renfroe and Drass and your NBA give a specific cite. NEVER take ANYBODY's "word for it"! The brand new JCAM (Art 41.2) says this: Conversions from part-time flexible to full-time status are made in strict seniority order even if an employee is on limited or light duty. In the letter carrier craft there are currently no exceptions for any reason, either voluntary or involuntary.
city guy
06:38 PM ET (US)
According to Brian Renfroe and Lew Drass and my NBA it is concrete. I can research it more to find more information if you like. I personally have not read it in writing but I took their word for it. I can try to find out more if you want
06:34 PM ET (US)
/m9244 So is that written in stone? I need a concrete answer, not "I was told". There are ptf's in a nearby office. The senior one likes his job and wants to continue it. There will be a retirement in my office in 12 months and I would prefer that the junior ptf e-reassigns here. The senior one is a real runner and the route he does is an aux route. When anyone else does the aux it is 8 or better. Catch my drift? He is a runner who skips breaks and lunch, doesn't take the time we are entitled to (up to 5 to check truck, 5 to get ready for the street, 5 in the PM, washup b4 lunch etc. If he came to this office the 8 hour plus route will become an aux. That I am sure about. But..... if he could stay a ptf in his own office he would.
city guy
10:40 PM ET (US)
/M9240 I spoke with Brian Renfroe in person about this and other issues and your right...you can stay a PTF as long as you want.
10:44 PM ET (US)
You should appreciate that it's your choice

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07:13 PM ET (US)
I'm a ptf for 18 years talked to national about this"Mr.Renfroe director over city delivery"He said if you want to stay a ptf for another 20 years nothing in the contract says you can't.contract reads they will give pts opportunities to transfer and return
09:21 PM ET (US)
I know of one carrier ptf about 15 miles from here and he has no idea and doesn't seem to care what will happen when the MOU runs out.
07:52 PM ET (US)
/m9236 still PTF. clerk took my job...says he's gonna retire in 3 years no big offices around here. Not within 100 miles. Definitely not happy. I was told that when 2016 come around that you would be able to remain a PTF if you wanted. Don't know if that'll happen but who knows.
02:07 PM ET (US)
/m9236 there are still 2 ptf's in an office 3 miles from mile and 2 ptf's in another about 10 miles from here. Not one of them is looking to the bigger offices for a position. I've told them about the MOU which states they can retreat back when a regular retires. They look like deer in headlights when I talk to them. It is anyone's guess what will really happen in 2016. No one really has an answer
07:25 PM ET (US)
How many of you still waiting for FTR status? No one has posted for a while so wondering if everyone is happy with their current situation. I converted from a PTF a year ago this month after 8 years as a PTF. 2016 is fast approaching.
RIKSNYPerson was signed in when posted
11:12 AM ET (US)
That is because:
a) Federal laws (RIF Procedure) override contracts.
b) They are looking to RIF managers/EAS employees who do not have contracts.
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