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| Philip
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05-15-2005 09:37 AM ET (US)
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| Corey Vermey
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05-16-2005 10:44 AM ET (US)
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This is an excellent topic and well-overdue in providing a 'scientific' approach consistent with humanistic values in the study of autism - and in sharp contrast to much of the 'science' that precedes it.
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| Michelle Dawson
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05-18-2005 08:02 AM ET (US)
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The comparison with the study of aging is very apt. What would have happened, had there not been an effort to alter the biased status quo? There are good examples to follow. I see no excuse for refusing, in the case of autism, to consider balanced and rational approaches which have a proven record both as good science and as good public policy.
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05-19-2005 11:37 AM ET (US)
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Hi, I'm new in this discussion. I'm a grad student in Ohio and I'm currently doing research on autism and its political ramifications. My brother is autistic, non-verbal, sometimes aggressive, and almost 20. He still lives at home and my family has been urged to either institutionalize him or heavily medicate him, neither of which we want to do. I'm just now learning about the debate between ABA/cure and pro-autisitic societies. I'm just trying to learn as much as possible. I would appreciate any feedback and am just grateful to have found this site.
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| Michelle Dawson
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05-20-2005 12:08 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 05-20-2005 12:08 AM
Hi Stacy, I'm not sure where to start. There's a long ongoing discussion hooked up to a different article on this website (the Misbehaviour of Behaviourists; at the bottom there are links to the archives as well as the current board which is here http://www.quicktopic.com/27/H/vJvhV4fDnBgw7 ). I could also suggest joining the Yahoo group AutAdvo if you want privately to ask questions about the issues you are concerned about. There are other websites such as http://neurodiversity.com and http://www.autistics.org , Jim Sinclair's site http://web.syr.edu/~jisincla/ and the Autism Network International site which includes a history of this organization http://web.syr.edu/~jisincla/History_of_ANI.html . I'm very glad your family is refusing to medicate and institutionalize your brother. On the comment board I referred to above (and in the archives), there is a lot of discussion of communication in "non-verbal" autistics; and of "aggression" and what behaviour that is labeled "aggressive" might mean. There are pretty good discussions of last straw behaviours, self-defence behaviours (two overlapping categories I put forward to more accurately explain what is going on when you are autistic and your communication fails), self-injury, etc (there may also be a lot of stuff you find irrelevant). I'm not sure what you want exactly for feedback, but you're very welcome to ask questions here or (I suggest) on the Misbehaviour board; it might then be possible to give you useful information or anyway things to consider.
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http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?rt123456"DANIELLE'S LAW" GOES TO WASHINGTON PETITION Please support Danielle's Law which was recently introduced in Congress by New Jersey Rep. Rush Holt. Danielle's Law requires staff who work with people with develomental disabilities or traumatic brain injury to dial 911 telephone emergency services in life-threatening emergencies, something that Danielle was not afforded. Danielle had difficulty breathing for over 14 hours and reported temperature of 105 degress, and because of the failure to call 911, when Danielle needed it most, she tragicaly died, like so many other helpless victims. Please visit Danielle's page off our website: www.thefamilyalliance.net YOUR SUPPORT IT VITAL. PLEASE SIGN OUR PETITION.
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08-12-2005 10:41 PM ET (US)
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THANK YOU FOR POSTING
Robin "To the world you might just be one person, but to one person you might just be the world".
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08-16-2005 10:23 PM ET (US)
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June 21, 2005, Press Event for Danielle's Law Representative.Rush Holt's Statement:
"A measure of our society worth and compassion is how we treat our most vulnerable citizens. If we fail to do all we can to protect those who cannot speak for themselves, we cannot call ours a civilized society. My hope is that out of the tragedy that befell Danielle will come a renewed commitment to social responsibility.That is what this bill is all about; reaffirming our promise to care for those who are most at-risk."
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09-10-2005 07:26 PM ET (US)
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Hello Michelle. Thank you for this great article. I am the leader of the Adult Support Group in Australia's Asperger Syndrome Support Network (Qld)Inc. I have recently criticised our organisation for what many of my fellow members consider discrimination (to a lesser degree than in your case). I have been "Invited" to attend a committee meeting this coming week to "discuss" but I feel like I am just a naughty child being summoned to the Principal's office to be reprimanded and scolded. Although my group wish me well, we believe that I will be wasting my energy attending. Will let you know how it goes.
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09-11-2005 08:02 AM ET (US)
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I apologize for overlooking this comment board recently (I really am a very disorganized person). Here's a direct link to information about Danielle's Law http://www.thefamilyalliance.net/WindsorHi...cleDaniellesLaw.htm I certainly remember reading, some time ago (with anger and disbelief), David Holmes', now ex-President of Eden services, objections to this law being passed at the state level. I've very happy to see Danielle's Law going to Washington. Thank you to Robin for providing that information. And sorry it took me so long to respond.
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09-11-2005 08:22 AM ET (US)
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Thanks Helen. The "naughty child" (and the summoned-for-a-reprimand, etc) sure sounds familiar to me. I hope you have more success than I did. Apart from the autism societies, Canada's only dedicated "AS" organization still had no AS person involved in its governance, last I looked.
And AS organizations are a bit baffling to people like me who don't have an AS diagnosis (I have an autism diagnosis, in fact I have several...).
I've always wondered what would have happened had I encountered good faith in any of my interactions with the autism societies. I'm pretty sure what you're looking for would be in the way of good faith, of being considered as an equal, of not being dragged through a charade to satisfy someone else's needs, of not having condescension heaped on you. It doesn't sound promising, but I hope you encounter a bit of good faith somewhere.
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09-11-2005 08:24 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 09-11-2005 08:24 AM
Re Danielle's Law again, I'm not sure Canadians can sign the petition. I saw no Canadian signatures in a skim-through. But if any Americans drop by, I hope they read this petition and consider signing it.
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09-11-2005 08:06 PM ET (US)
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Michelle, I appreciate your response. Canada is our friend and we welcome your signatures. On behalf of all the voiceless, wherever they may be, a heartfelt thank you. Robin - Danielle's Aunt
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03-20-2006 09:57 AM ET (US)
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Hi Michelle, I just sent you an email -- when I read the Globe article a while ago, I was thrilled about the message reaching a major paper! Please email me at estee@wolfond.com regarding Canadian Autism Acceptance Network. http://joyofautism.blogspot.com
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