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WOW Cindy, what is the copy write of "A Smaller Social History of Ancient Ireland" by P.W. Joyce, it looks like a great find.

Hey Cindy,

I'm impressed! You really seem to be devouring all you can of Celtic Christian Spirituality. Nice Blog too! Thanks for the link...

Slan
Marty

Thanks for the recommendations some of you made for my research. I'm enjoying the books greatly, along with some others I've picked up. You can read my thoughts about them on my blog: http://celticvoices.blogspot.com/

Cindy

Thanks. I&#B9;m so happy to hear that as I ordered it from Amazon last night.
Cindy
http://www.brigidofireland.com


On 9/21/06 7:06 AM, "QT - Taoseach Ivan MacKillop. OCC"
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I have the book, and recommend it. It's a good survey of the various community rules as well as some other early Christian Celtic writing. Slainte Mhath 'is a h-uile beannachd dhuibh
Bishop Ivan MacKillop, OCC
Taoiseach of
The Church of the Culdees &
The Order of the Celtic Cross
culdee@continet.com
http://www.continet.com/culdee

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Hey Cindy,

I looked it up and found it on abebooks.com for $19.95... It does seem to have a review to go with it but the title intrigues me with the "Rules and Writings of Early Irish Monks". Sounds good to me and the cost won't set you back much!

Let us know what you think of it!

Slan,
Marty

Is anyone familiar with this book?

The Celtic Monk
  
Author(s): Maidin, Uinseann O.
ISBN: 0879076623 / Paperback / 2/1/1997

All of this is very difficult for me to understand, but I&#B9;m trying

Scotty wrote:

> To what I have seen The Lorrha "Stowe" Missal would have been
> the one that was used during formal worship.

I&#B9;m looking that over in a PDF located on http://celticchristianity.org/ I&#B9;m wondering, with all their emphasis on traditions that date back to before 900AD, why they are using 15th century King James English. It could be that it was translated into English back then, but what would be reason for using it still? Of course, this can also be applied to the Bible, except that there are other reasons people prefer that translation (some words are left out in newer translations, the prose is more melodic...I&#B9;m not one of those people, btw.)

Cindy

Here is a portion of thier library I have not looked through all of it, but I do know most of them do date back to what would have been around during the time of the Celtic Church :

Breviary (Prayer Book)
An office the Hours of Daily prayers and Psalms based on the Antiphonary of Bangor, The Rule of St. Columbanus and the Rules for the Céli Dé by St. Maelrúain. This also contains many hymns and litanies.
All three parts are necessary to use the Breviary:
Breviary Part I (212K) || Breviary Part II (187K) | | Breviary Part III (123K)
Dutch Translations by Abbot Thomas
Keltisch Horologion | | Ierse Litanie | | Keltische Hymnen | | Keltische Hymnen 2 | | Boek der Hymnen



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The Rule (way of Life) of St. Maelrúain for the Céli Dé
All Céli Dé are Orthodox Christians. This contains some traditional practices relating to parish life.

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Calendar of Feast days
From the Martyrology of Saint Oengus, Céle Dé
Calendar of the Current Year
A list of dates of major Feasts and Fasts for use with the Missal.
It shows when various moveable Feasts, such as Easter occur.

Yah that is pretty much my take on it. Of course, this is the number one point of contention here on the list. Fr. Jim will sure to chime in here soon on this. I attended their service in TN a few years back. For the most part it was like any liturgical format, but it was very legalistic and very cold. I too have trouble believing that the early church was like this in Spirit.

To what I have seen The Lorrha "Stowe" Missal would have been the one that was used during formal worship. But IMHO, I think things were not as formal at first. I think it was a simple sharing of Faith where the people were, both body and spirit.

Sorry. I&#B9;m looking at that right now. What I was referring to was the link that Scotty sent.
Cindy


On 9/14/06 12:23 PM, "QT - Martin Farrell"
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Dia anseo isteach!
God to all here!

Hey Cindy,

Actually, I was referring to their Prayer Book. Its quite good. I believe that it is available at any online bookstore or you can check them out at Northumbria Community's website (praying the office).

Slan
Marty

Wow. I tried very hard to get through the Bishop&#B9;s statement of faith. I lean toward disbelieving that the early Irish Christians, the ones who, as it&#B9;s been said, saved civilization, were quite that legalistic. But maybe I&#B9;m wrong. That&#B9;s what I&#B9;m trying to find out.

Cindy




On 9/14/06 11:25 AM, "QT - Scotty" <qtopic+31-ACD32UG6jYw@quicktopic.com> wrote:

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Thanks, Marty. That does sum up why I&#B9;m having a tough time of it. I think I&#B9;ve visited the Northumbria Community on the Web. I&#B9;ll check it out again.
Cindy

On 9/14/06 11:17 AM, "QT - Martin Farrell"
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Cindy,

I have not allways agreed with the rigidity and manner in which they practice but this website has some great FYI and I do believe it to be pretty accurate.

http://celticchristianity.org/

Scotty