ok well back to team bat-girl i go to see if i think i can recognize jeb lol if not when you see a girl with red hair but slighlty brown roots looking confused and lost you know its me

Fear not, my friend. We always have good directions!!!!! And you can recognize Jeb by his drawing on Meet Team Batgirl.

And we're okay, for now, on the web stuff--my guy thinks he can fix it! If there are problems, I'll let you know.

ok cause I do webdesign haven't learned anything yet about movable type but I can find something that might beable to work for it if your moveable type site allows you to use other languages also I will keep looking for the next meet up deal but how will I know its you ?? I mean its a very cute drawing of you in meet team batgirl but not highly recognizable lol

I'll let you know. I'm hoping the Movable Type upgrades will work. Thanks!

All are welcome. You'll see a posting next time it happens, and sometimes people organize things in the comments!

what kind of message board do you need for bat-girl.com for your game threads?? does it need to be in a certain language if not i can find you one that might be easy to set up?

btw I noticed last year that you had big groups of people getting together on game days to watch the game at different places around the cities this year are you doing the sam and if so do you mind if I join you guys/gals???

I surely will.

And Sara, I would rule a lot more if I understood a thing about computers and the "internet" and could fix the bleepin' thing myself!

I know wasn't he =) will you add him in your list for me of boyfriends ???

Dear Batgirl,

You rule.

Sincerely,
SaraZ

I saw that Christina! So WONDERFUL! And Cuddy was so nice!

Batgirl I noticed nobody has posted since I did today about yesterdays game but just letting you know we went to last nights game and well our circle me bert sign did it!!! 100 lotto tickets yea!!!!

Yes. As soon as my web guy does the upgrades, which he says he'll do in the next couple of days, we're going to try to move it back. If they don't work, we can't move it until the next release of Movable Type, in July, but we're thinking this will work!

Batgirl, are there any plans to move the game thread back to bat-girl.com? I know this is the least of your worries, but I can't access QuickTopic from work, so I don't ever get to read the game thread until late, late at night. (A very critical problem, don't you think?)

Huh. Weird.

(I know, that was really helpful.)

No I ment the comments link from the main page where it says (comments 4) well now its more then 4 but the link when I click it was just giving me the box to post but nobodys comments no biggie I saved the link from when I posted and I have the url to get back in the comments and when i refresh it works to see the newest comments so its all good I think my computer is having issues so i'm going to go clear cache,history and cookies and hopefully fix it

Well, we're supposed to be doing some upgrades this week. I hope that helps.

I think Christina may be having the same problem that I have at work... pages won't refresh unless I wait about fifteen minutes or post something. it's strange.

Haha, at least you saw the Twins win! I will be seeing the Twins all 3 games in Milwaukee. Hopefully this year they will win more than 1 game in the series!! And at least I won't have to be cold :)

there was a great article on him in the Toronto Sun about a month ago. I don't remember all of it, but he is, apparently, fun to watch and quite a character. I think he takes a bit of shit for his sunglasses, but it's less attitude than it is eccentricity.

Christina--I wrote you on the entry, but the comments themselves are never on the main page, you always have to click to read them. Is that the problem?

I did refresh and still nothing so i posted and that worked but still if I try from the main page no deal so I'm considering clearing out my history and cookies and thqat should work if not i saved the url that was working for me

I went to TWO! It was that series at the end of April, the one that we swept even though we mostly played like ass-crap. Plus, it was the coldest it's ever been, or at least close, in K.C. that week, so the games were a bit miserable. But even miserable Twins baseball is better than no Twins baseball at all.

Well Sara, you should be able to get decent seats to that game. I haven't made it up there yet this year, need to find a day that works.

You went to a Royals game? Sorry :)

Fumb, what's the deal with Chacin?

Huh, Christina. Press reload?

Ok this is messed up I went to see the comments on todays game it says thiers 4 comments but when I go in they dont show up humm... now other then last nights santana mojo missing so is the comments on todays game.

oh, is it Chacin tomorrow? I'm so sad I'll have to miss that! he should be fun to watch.

but I hope we kick his ass.

Uh-oh, Batgirl.

Shaun, I do love IKEA. It's all very cheap, which works well for poor kids such as myself.

I do think I'll try to make it to the last Giants game. I haven't been up to the Dome yet this spring -- the only games I've seen so far were in Kansas City.

they just said on 'CCO that Crain is a converted shortstop... is that what it takes to make an awesome pitcher? Johan K and Joe Nathan were also originally shortstops.

hmmm...

If you go to the Twins homepage, check out Toronto's starter tomorrow. Pretty freaky eyewear.

Anyway, let's hope Mays has a good performance in him tomorrow.

Remember to put in the recap about koskie's hot date with the wall you would think by now he should know how to catch in the dome but nope not that time

Oops, I was so busy watching the game I forgot to think of a game recap.

No doubt he will. Lohse was HUGE for us tonight. Big props to Cuddles and Castro (now there's a tv show), but, this was an easy choice.

Can't argue with that, Batgirl.

Cuddy's on WCCO now. He's adorable. I'm considering elevating him to Boyfriend #1 status, especially if he keeps his May form and doesn't revert to April.

Good call, BG.

Cuddy will have his day.

Hooray! I was hoping Kyle would win it tonight. Maybe his performance, and BOD status, will propel him to some more good starts.

Gotta be Kyle. Big win that the team needed bigtime.

LNP for BOD!

heh ;)

Through the miracle that is XM radio, just listened to your Twins win on the WCCO broadcast.

Now where can I get one of those lawn mowers that will make my yard look like a ballfield? ; )

Maybe it's Kyle?

Better, I think.Give me a minute.

Sweet, a win!!

WOOT!

My heart skipped a beat, it looked like he tatered that one. Whew.

Is it DJ Dimples, Batgirl? Is it? Is it?

WOOT.

YO JOE!!!

yahoo!

The B.O.D. is all ready to go, just as soon as Joe wastes this guy.

Just because Gardy or Sid say it, doesn't make it so. I hope I don't come off like a jerk, but I believe I'm right - and sticking up for it. Someone's got to stick up for rookies who get no love.

You're not being a jerk, don't worry. I was just basing my statements off my perceptions, not actual stats. :)

I think Bartlett will be back - and not long from now - but I have a feeling that Gardy sees more of the mental standing of his players than we do. He wouldn't have switched if he wasn't concerned.

and man... do I love to watch this man pitch.. makes my mouth dry.

Nick, I don't want to be a jerk... but you're wrong. He's had a better May than April.
April: .674 OPS
May: .710 OPS
Check it out: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?statsId=7388

Big IKEA fan Sara? I admit, never been there.

I had thought about trying to make it up there if Bonds was playing, but won't bother now. Looks like there are good seats still left.

I have no problem with the veep doing a king and his court thing, just him and the chairman and no bat fielding one time.

for sure, BG. I'm excited for Bart to take it full time when he's ready for it.

Nice K, VEEP

Alskn, I don't think anyone really doubts that Bartlett is a better hitter. But he's been in a hitting slump for what seems like a long time, which is probably tougher on a rookie than a veteran. I can see the logic in him riding the pine for a bit.

I want to see Joe field a bat again.

heh, not really. ;)

Sorry to get all statsy on you guys...
AL SS: .261/.319/.395/.714
Bartlett: .242/.310/.374/.684
Castro: .217/.265/.283/.548
Those don't lie. Bartlett's doing okay compared the league and better that Castro... at the plate anyway.

All I know is that whatever happens in the present, he's our shortstop of the future and I'm extremely pleased about that.

I'm good, Shaun. Especially now that I'm thinking about IKEA.

Hey, does anyone know what the ticket situation will be for the Giants series? Are those tickets hard to come by?

They need to mic up Newmie more often.

Let's go, VP!

I don't think a guy who will stick in the majors is so easily crushed. He's a rookie and he's slumping. He seems to be handling it well. He will get through it.

Per ESPN, Mr. Bonds is now on a 24hr IV antibiotic to fight his staph infection.

Doesn't look like we'll seem him hit the baggy this summer.

I bought $10 binoculars, and it's great fun to peer into the dugout and watch the guys with their crazy handshakes and see them goofing around.

Two straight nights of pure ugliness out of the 2 spot.

If I were him, that would crush me. He's been decent in the field, all that we asked of him. He's also hitting better than Castro (the stats don't lie) and about equal to Guzman last year... and he's slumping, so yeah, I'd be upset if I were him and they benched me or sent me down. He's not doing THAT bad.

don't put this in the conspiracy category but my guess on the change in primary player between Bartlett and Castro probably has more to do with maturity and mental experience.

I think that Bartlett was letting the situation get to him - an easy thing to happen for a young player - so Gardy is going with the guy who has more experience for now.

I love all our boys and like the fact that we have enough depth to handle these situations because they do happen.

Isn't it great to see the guys goofing off in the dugout and having a good time?? Baseball should ALWAYS be enjoyed.

I agree, kafumbly, that LNP is good in the #2 slot.

Nice to see Rivas and Castro having a great time in the dugout.

Hey Sara, not too bad. You?

I think they said it 3 cents for every $20, so that's a lot of IKEA! Of course, the Mall could pile up the spending.

Nice job, Boo. Love those holds for my fantasy team.

I like him, too, very much. I wouldn't feel terrible if they sent him down for a while, though, to get his groove back.

LNP is good in the #2 spot, though. he gets on base and/or moves the runner over. I like him batting second.

That play is in no way proof Castro should be our starting shortstop... need to pick your logic better.

Ok, THAT's why Castro should be in there in the late innings of close games, regardless of whether he starts! And I think Cordel said a bad word there.

I just don't understand always having the 2B or SS bat second. It's so... irrational.

Nice play... I still want Bartlett in their for the long haul.

and you were saying??

I like Castro - I like Barlett too that is in no way a comment on Juan.

Wasn't that Castro who just made a great stop behind the bag, double-clutched and still nailed the runner?

Got to pick your spots better. :)

Hey, Shaun, how's it going?

I just thought of the perfect amendment to the stadium plan. If it passes, I vow to come up to the Cities and immediately spend every dollar to my name at IKEA. That should drum up at least, um, well, at least close to $1 for the stadium.

yahoo! there's Castro, making me look good for saying nice things about him. :)

Ahem.

Wasn't that Castro who just executed a textbook hit-and-run?

Got to pick your spots better.

Well, frankly, he hasn't been hitting OR playing defense, so you might as well have someone that can do one!

I like Castro. he and Redmond always seem to get a hit right when we need one.

I was just waiting for you to comment on that Nick - I thought of you instantly when I saw Castro and Rivas in the 8 & 9 spots.

I agree.

I don't want to go all conspiracy theory, but there has got to be another reason for benching Bartlett... there's no way Castro is a better player, now or in the future.

Can our 8th and 9th inning studs do it again? (Here in baseball heaven.)

Fran -- good one.

yay Boo!

Here comes Boo...

Time for the clutch two-out hit that is a Rivas trademark.

I just noticed that Gardy batted neither the SS nor 2B second tonight. Maybe he's finally learning.

Ahhh, small ball. Oh well. Nice hose out there in RF.

I think Chuck Meriweather just wanted to make the out gesture.

Poop. That was a hell of a throw.

yahoo! Castro is clutch.

oh, ass crap.

I hope they know that Huckaby possess a freaking photon cannon for an arm.

Wow, Cuddy aiming for another SB?

Cuddy is a man possessed!

Where has that swing been all year? Nice job of hitting. Sheesh

yes! Jesse Crain is Canadian!

Amazing how that average can jump up early in the year

wow, Mays is a natural at that! the rest of 'em all sound as though they're baseball players reading cue cards. hmmm...

IS HE CANADIAN?

Edited by author 05-18-2005 09:58 PM
More like, "Sit down, eh, ya hoser."

I love putting on a Canadian accent and saying hoser. A lot.

Heh..."Sit down, eh?"

take off, eh?

Mrs. Lew was looking quite good on the pre-game show.

And Jesse says sit down hoser.

nice hook Crain. Damn, that's one came down from the heavens like the 10 commandments.

Who is with me? I'm on board The choo-choo Crain!

He looks right at home flame-throwing in the 7th.

That was hot.

After a quick Google search, I now remember the Simpsons "schadenfreude" reference. :)

Joe Nathan
Lew Ford
DJ Cuddles
Jesse Crain


and THAT'S IT, I swear!

A glove save and a beauty.

Ms. Fumbley, what is your boyfriend list again?

Jason: Nice Stab, Jesse!

As someone who's forehead gets larger every year, I'd love to have the problem of adorable curly hair.

Of course, if it ever gets to that point, I'll shave before going to a comb-over.

Nice catch, Jesse!!!!! "Look what I got!!""

YIKES! Nice grab!

HA!!! Jesse!!! you are SOOOO one of my boyfriends!

DAMN I love that kid!

Wow.

damn.... *jaw drops*

Wow, that was a hell of a grab!

I agree, Fran, it just makes me want to watch the games at home!

That guy on the commercial is having way too much fun watching the game at home.

I like the commercial, but it almost defeats the message it is trying to convey.

Also, I would not be opposed to an insurance run or several, but this looks like it could be one for the crain train, boo and the veep to nail down.

CB, I think you answered your own question. :) guys don't like hearing that they have adorable curly hair. they are MACHO, not adorable.

Sara, what's up?

I am not a Minnesotan either, but being in Wisconsin I firsthand saw the fight by the Brewers to get what became Miller Park. It was quite a battle, the legislation passing by one vote (and that legislator was recalled and lost his seat). They tax a 5 county area around Milwaukee, to the amount of 1/10 of 1%. When I am in Milwaukee, I never notice that miniscule amount of tax that goes to pay of the stadium. Honestly, you will never notice it, and the Twins get to get a much better stadium and more revenue to retain more players.

That's sad...the meat of our order's having a rough couple of games here. Specially the M&Ms.

no Kafumbly - because you are absolutely right.. *grin*

I was just putting that in the "yet one more thing we have in common" column.. *laugh*

I will repeat some comments from last night.

I miss the Dr's cherubic curls... why is that the guys who always have the absolutely adorable curls - the kind that simply make your fingers ITCH to touch them - always cut them off!?!?

I have a good friend who does the same thing. THICK, GORGEOUS CURLS that he shaves off every 8 weeks or so... drives me crazy.

>>That word is schadenfreude. Yay for things I learned from the Simpsons.<<

Dang. I forgot something from the Simpsons??? Not good.

Oh, and kafumbly: I agree about the education bit. Just throwing more money at it won't do much good.

>>kafumbly... girl. You and I are just going to have to get together for lunch or something one of these days. *GRIN*<<

shwa? because of our love for Joe Nathan, or so you can tell me why I'm wrong about the money that goes to education? ;)

I'm all for the new stadium but does anyone think it's good PR when officials are calling the new stadium "average" and "mediocre?"

>But again, I'm not a Minnesotan, so it's really not my argument.<

I don't think you have to be a Minnesotan to be part of the debate. Mostly because I would be disqualified otherwise. :)

Right, as always, BG. (Except that I'm a Twins fan and also have a problem with subsidizing a billionaire.) How about Carl, Sid the Shill, and the big-biz folk who benefit from Mpls being a big-league town buy the roof?

Another BIZARRO for you: Lohse has been our most consistant starter of late ;)

I know a lot of people who refuse to step foot at a Twins game simply because they don't want to give their money to Pohlad. if he ever sold, attendance would skyrocket.

I told that to Dave St. Peter when I talked to him a couple months ago, and he had nothing to say to that.

Agreed, Nick. Snaps to Kyle.

>But, should we let our anger get in the way of evaluating what's in our own best interests? I contend we should not.<

And I agree, Nick. Like I said, I think we should hold our nose and back the ballpark--and make it the best ballpark possible.

I support the stadium, I just don't much care for the owner anymore. I can't stomach it when anyones make excuses or apologies for him. But build the ballpark, anyway.

Nick -- That word is schadenfreude. Yay for things I learned from the Simpsons.

CapitalBabs -- When the earlier stadium plans were proposed, I didn't like them for the same reason, that the money was better spent on things already getter short shrift, like education. But that's why I like this plan so much. It's not state money. It's not money that should go to fixing our schools. It's money spent by the people most likely to lose if the Twins leave town.

But again, I'm not a Minnesotan, so it's really not my argument. That won't, however, keep me out of the debate. :)

kafumbly... girl. You and I are just going to have to get together for lunch or something one of these days. *GRIN*

That may be it for Kyle tonight. But let's give him props for an outstanding outing! But for those two walks, he'd have shut out the Jays so far. He did an excellent job keeping the ball on the ground, too.

Alrighty! 3-4-5 coming up to bat. Let's get some RUNS!

I'm getting tired overall of stadium talk. I like Dick and Bert as annoucers, but they start plugging this thing so dang much it's like...ENOUGH.

It's almost as bad as Chi-Sox's annoucer's "He Gone"s and "Put'em on the boards."

Let's save the stadium talk for another day. Or at least a non-game discussion.

So help me I'll get all us gaming nerds going on the Electronic Entertainment Expo.

I'm sure angry. I think he's a cheapskate and an S.O.B. and I will never forgive him for this. I think he's been terrible about the stadium issues. I think he should pay for a retractable roof. But I also think this stadium proposal is going to be the one that gets it done, so let's get it done.

That said, I think the people who are angriest about the contraction thing are Twins fans, and that it's not necessarily Twins fans who are talking about subsidizing a billionaire.

hooray! Jesse!

as far as education, they're wasting the money that's already going to education, so I don't listen anymore when people whine about education. I used to listen and agree, but they spend that money on such stupid things...

Good point, Fran. I'm still pissed about the attempted contraction too. I suppose one could view this as rewarding Pohlad for his bad behavior, and thus providing an incentive for such behavior in the future.

But, should we let our anger get in the way of evaluating what's in our own best interests? I contend we should not. (And I realize, of course, that reasonable people can differ on what's in their best interests.)

Scotty - I feel stupid asking this but.. what is WD?

How was it not a single and an error?

>When viewed in this light, the anger some people feel toward subsidizing Carl Pohlad seems both wrong and irrational.<

Sorry, Nick. The anger is well-earned and very rational.

If it had been up to Carl, the team would have been contracted. The only reason the Twins exist for us to watch tonight is because of a court judge. That can't be so easily whitewashed or forgotten.

CapitalBabs,

Please don't bow out of this discussion. You sound like a sane voice, while certain others that dropped in solely to discuss the stadium sound like they have an agenda they're pushing.

More sane voices, please!

And no more solo homers, let's hit those dingers with runners on!

TW: It was a high chopper that just went off the tip of Cuddy's glove and into foul territory for a double. Another hit for the Jays that wasn't hit well.

It bounced into/over his glove.

Someone please explain this from Gameday "Wells doubles on a ground ball to third baseman Cuddyer"

CUDDY! Boy, apparently if you hit a homerun tonight you're given a error as well.

Oh, and I was hit by a pitch too. EYE want to go to first!

WD Babs

They'll be a revenue-producer for him if the taxpayers give him a stadium, that's for sure

I have avoided talking about the stadium issue due to my job but let me say a couple short comments and then I will return to my non-commenting back-of-the-room habit.

a) stadium is better than no stadium so you get what will PASS
b) it's not TAX that gets people's undies in a bunch or they would be upset over this proposal - which they aren't
c) it's the State putting money into RECREATION when budgets are barely maintaining or being cut left and right for more essential state services. Yes, you and I know how the business side works but is a stadium more important than education? transportation?

It basically comes down to priorities and the people who have the really hard calls to make have said - listen, we are going to use what resources we have elsewhere. We love the idea of this being built but you will have to find the money yourself.

So, Hennepin Cty did. And that is why I said early on that this proposal had the best chance of any bill I have seen in the last 7 years. It shows that they are cognizant of the issues here and realize that it all boils down to Item A on the list: Stadium is better than no stadium.

Ok.. I will now bow out and let y'all debate.

I'm glad you folks agree. And even though nobody disagrees so far, I think I can state my argument with a bit more clarity.

A rational person is for the stadium if the marginal costs to that person are greater than the marginal benefits. Though this sounds simple enough, the costs and benefits will vary by the person's values. For example, if a person is so personally offended by subsidizing a billionaire that he can't live with himself, the costs of this stadium would be high to that person.

Of course, people are free to feel how they want to about subsidizing the rich. But I believe it's irrational to feel so strongly about it. I forget what the German word is for being happy about another's failures (it came up in a discussion on Batgirl about the Yankees), but this seems to be a variation on that. Which is to say, people feel angry about the success of another, without regard to the personal costs and benefits of the issue. When viewed in this light, the anger some people feel toward subsidizing Carl Pohlad seems both wrong and irrational.