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Ann Rainey
03:03 PM cst(US)
To be accurate, there were 4 shootings in Rogers Park. 3 people were wounded and one person was killed. Accordingly to Evanston police, we have no info that the 2 ridge shootings were Evanston related. Who knows, a guy is dead and another wounded.
Bernard (Network2424)
12:51 AM cst(US)
Shooting 7400 Ridge
From Chicago Alderman Moore on Everyblock
Unfortunately, Rogers Park experienced two shootings this evening. The first occurred on Morse Avenue at approximately 5:15 p.m. in the 1200 block of West Morse. Two people were hit by the same bullet, which was fired about one hundred yards from the victims. The victims, a man in a wheel chair and a woman who was pushing him, are both OK. The man suffered a graze wound to the head and has been released from the hospital and the woman was shot in the chest. Fortunately, her condition has stabilized and they expect she will survive.. I spoke with 24th District Commander Thomas Waldera this evening and he says the police have not identified any suspects or motive for the shooting and are not certain if the victims were the intended targets.

The second shooting occurred on the 7400 block of North Ridge. Two men, both 29, were shot. One man died from shotgun wounds to the abdomen and leg and the other man was shot in the right leg and taken to Illinois Masonic Medical Center, where his condition has stabilized. Commander Waldera tells me police do not believe the Ridge shooting is related to the Morse shooting. Instead, they believe the Ridge Avenue shooting is the result of a dispute between Evanston gangs, which spilled over into Chicago.
Dory Blakeslee
11:15 PM cst(US)
Sounds like there were shootings on Jonquil and ridge between Fargo and birchwood. Both close enough for us to hear.
Dory Blakeslee
10:43 PM cst(US)
Thinking fireworks because just happened again at about the same speed and number. 8 and got faster at the end.
Dory Blakeslee
09:25 PM cst(US)
Me too. It sounded right behind me and echoed. Guess I'll walk him in the courtyard of my building. Yikes. I just told my mom tonight, nope no gun shots lately. Hope it was fireworks.
Denise Beaudoin
09:19 PM cst(US)
I have the same question because right after heard a bunch of sirens.
Dory Blakeslee
09:14 PM cst(US)
So just now near St Francis...fireworks or gun shots? Kind of don't want to go out and walk the dog right now.
Ann Rainey
07:15 PM cst(US)


from city manager
EFD continues to work incident. Firefighters are continuing to find small fires amidst large piles of crushed automobiles. Fire started on east end of yard. No workers at location when fire began. It was reported to EFD by passerby. Cause of fire not determined and will be difficult to determine given high density of crusted autos.

ComEd reporting power outages to 726 Skokie customers and 54 Evanston customers given downed power lines adjacent to property caused by fire.

EFD was assisted by fire companies from Skokie, Wilmette, Winnetka, Niles, Park Ridge and Northfield.
Michele Hays
05:33 PM cst(US)
FYI: Per EFD Twitter account, Oakton is closed at Dodge. Also, it's apparently only cars on fire and is under control (same source.)

Candace, I would agree with you except for two things: one, Austin is a busy intersection where northbound, southbound and westbound cars are all trying to turn because of St. Francis (so not too much different than a busy 4-way intersection) and second, school children should not be crossing (especially during rush hour) without a crosswalk or crossing guard. I don't disagree that for an adult it can be safer, especially on Asbury which has only 2 lanes of traffic and is usually less busy, but it's crazy for that intersection to be on the safe schools list when there are three crosswalks with lights, two of which have crossing guards so kids can cross safely.
Candace Hill
03:28 PM cst(US)
Colin has got photos and video up on Twitter:
Bob MorrisonPerson was signed in when posted
03:01 PM cst(US)
Sounds like a large fire at North Shore Towing.
Bob MorrisonPerson was signed in when posted
02:48 PM cst(US)
I'm seeing a lot of smoke in the sky. Any news?
Candace Hill
02:47 PM cst(US)
I must plead guilty that I also cross at the corner of Austin and Ridge if it is safe to do so.

Most people who are not pedestrians don't understand that it is often safer to cross in the middle of the street,where you only have to look two directions and it is often all clear, than to cross as a very busy intersection like Oakton and Ridge where cars are going in EIGHT different directions and often trying to beat the light or sneak around a turn early.

This is why it is also safer to cross in the middle of Asbury at the end of our alley into Kirk street rather than at Asbury and Oakton because people keep trying to extend the green left turn light for four cars past red. It is infuriating and makes crossing at the crosswalk, with the walk light, very complicated and difficult.

The major culprit here is St. Francis Hosp. which closed the entrance door on Ridge, for reasonable security reasons. School kids were walking through the hospital as a shortcut to their homes. People going to the hospital should get on and off buses at Ridge and Hull Terrace but they don't want to. They want to get off at Austin and get on at Austin and that's where they flag down the bus. You feel sorry for the bus drivers, they don't want to drive past people flagging from wheelchairs on the east side of Austin. So, as long as the bus stops and adults are crossing here, the kids are going to cross as well.

But, let me again explain, it is often safer to cross this way, rather than in the very busy intersections, even at Hull and Ridge, where the crossing guard often has to fight off people in cars wanting to make that left turn onto Ridge in the worst way, even if it is through lines of school kids crossing.
Karen Johnson
07:19 AM cst(US)
Thanks for pointing that out, Michele. The next question is how do we inform District 65 so that someone will do something about it? I have found the answer to that question to be important but frequently elusive.

Switching to an issue for ETHS...I have heard arguments for years that high school students would benefit greatly from later school start times. Scientific study supports this argument.

The link below is to a Wall Street Journal article that cites the many benefits and notes that there is a biological reason for doing better with a later start time (it is not the students just being lazy or choosing not to get out of bed).

Michele Hays
10:39 PM cst(US)
One part of the problem might be that the "Safe Walk Routes" handout given to kids by D65 actually lists Austin as a crosswalk: http://www.district65.net/departments/transportation/Walk_Routes/ (you have to scroll down and click "Oakton")
Karen Johnson
07:04 AM cst(US)
Tried to add this to my earlier message but could not after I posted the photo:

Note that the sign is well worn. It does not appear that it is a recent installation. Sigh...
Karen Johnson
07:01 AM cst(US)

On the subject of signs, I do not know whether to laugh or cry. Actually it made me shake my head as I wondered about our public education system:

Seen at an Evanston public school earlier this week...not Oakton or Chute:
Edited 08-30-2014 07:02 AM
Karen Johnson
06:58 AM cst(US)
Thanks, Sue. You are exactly right.

I appreciate staff's quick response. I also understand all of the reasons that there can't be a marked crosswalk there. But that lack of painted lines does little to discourage people from crossing there.

A "no crossing" sign is needed to alert people to the dangers.
Susan Johnson
06:30 AM cst(US)
Austin crossing. I see lots of kids with and without parents running across Ridge to go to and from school. Since it has been determined it is so unsafe to put in a crosswalk there how about some no pedestrian crossing signs to teach people cutting across there is a really bad idea. And maybe even some extra reminders to parents about safe crossing places around the school sent home in kids backpacks. School just started so maybe people will pay attention just a bit now.
If I were putting the reminder together I would draw a map of the school: With entry doors marked. The streets around the school. Posted crossing guards and big "no crossing here" graphics on the map. Then I would included a letter from the police/ traffic guy with everything that was just posted on the board here. Reminds people why you should not cross where there isn't a marked walk---just saying.
Sue j

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Ann rainey
06:16 PM cst(US)
And btw the available sign did not get removed without intervention. Our staff works quickly.
Ann rainey
06:14 PM cst(US)
Karen, below is Austin Ridge response - Chief and dir of Public Works.
Ann rainey
06:12 PM cst(US)
Alderman, Please find below the response from the traffic engineers. I will ask Sgt. Williams of the Traffic unit to visit with the complainant and determine if any additional enforcement would be beneficial. Thanks.


Richard Eddington

Chief of Police

Chief Eddington:

Traffic engineering reviewed this in the field and we do not recommend placing a crosswalk at the intersection of Austin and Ridge for the following reasons:

1. Safer controlled crossings exists within one block to the north and south at Oakton and Hull Terrace.

2. Placing a crosswalk so close between the two signals at Oakton and Hull Terrace when traffic is just starting to speed up would be precarious.

3. The jog in Austin as it crosses Ridge does not provide for direct sidewalk connections cutout to cutout, east to west.

4. The speed of the emergency vehicles entering and leaving the hospital via Austin adjacent to the hospital.

5. The timing of the signals along Ridge are not time to facilitate pedestrian crossing at the intersection of Ridge and Austin.

Please let me know if you need any additional information.
Karen Johnson
05:32 PM cst(US)
Jeri saw it yesterday so kudos on the keen eyesight. Sorry that I didn't see it before I posted. Happy Labor Day to all.
Karen Johnson
05:30 PM cst(US)
And the sign specifies that there are two separate play areas for ages 0-12.
Karen Johnson
05:28 PM cst(US)
There is a new sign at Oakton and Asbury today. I noticed it on my way to ETHS this morning.

The sign cheerfully proclaims that Little Beans (with a drive through, two play spaces for ages 0-12 and Intelligensia Coffee) will open this winter.

Looks much nicer than the AVAILABLE sign. So for once, Ann, no need to do anything on this issue. Enjoy the weekend!
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