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 Person was signed in when posted  112
02-25-2005 01:07 PM ET (US)
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trying to keep the peacePerson was signed in when posted  111
02-23-2005 08:05 PM ET (US)
Good article sent to me by Joy G.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/

PS> Open did you hear from Rolfe? What's the scoop? I would love a pair of earrings and a lapel pin :-) Thanks Peace
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  110
02-22-2005 04:00 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-23-2005 04:36 PM
Open /m109: The previous landlord, Julius Kerti, stole about seven boxes, including the receipt of shipment to the LMDC.

However, I had kept portions of the paper work elsewhere, which included sort of reject copies of the packaging.

Copies of the money order as well.

In addition, when I was sending cultural submissions to the LMDC, it was never questioned that I made a submission to the LMDC. Mr. Hatfield even responded to my initial questions because I was concerned about cultural submissions giving the identity of the memorial submission, without proper safeguards. Mr Hatfield was responsible for dealing with the ICI (Invitation to Cultural Institutions
(and individuals)).

Now, that I have sent the Flight 93 organizers a 22 page letter because the selections did not properly bring out the Mission Statement, whereas my design did (and I enclosed an 11 page analysis of designs that were bringing out certain aspects of the Mission Statement), I plan to send the LMDC a letter, in addition to what I sent reviously.

The Registration Nunber I have.
OpenPerson was signed in when posted  109
02-20-2005 12:22 AM ET (US)
Stephen,

         What I am requesting is a re-evaluation of the registered boards according to the published rules of the competition. If your board was never registered, it would not be accepted for review unless you could convince the LMDC to include it in the review as a registered proposal. If you still have your registration number, that would help. That part is out of my control. But, I suggest you contact the LMDC and tell them you want written confirmation that you sent a board in by the deadline. Then, you would have to fight, probably in court, to get it accepted. If you feel that passionately about your board (as I do about mine), I suggest you contact the LMDC now, and if they are not helpful, you must then go to the Supreme Court at 60 Centre Street in Manhattan. It's a long, expensive and ugly process, but it was one I felt I HAD to take. I did not have a choice in the matter. This is all way down the road, and City and I have a billion hurdles to clear, so you have some time before thiis process is started, if it ever is. But, get crackin' on it now should things go our way in the future.
Stephen VassilevPerson was signed in when posted  108
02-19-2005 02:46 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-19-2005 02:47 PM
Open and Cityslob: It would be nice if the Memorial Site at Ground Zero would be used correctly and you succeed in doing so.

If you link from Flight 93 Memorial Discussion Board to my Flight 93 Memorial Design board above (42-26-487) it has the option of a 9/11 Memorial Park, upgraded in appearance from the one I had originally depicted, but which has never been acknowledged clearly as having been received.

The Memorial Chamber, and the Conference and Memorial Hall would have allowed families and visitors accesss to footprint areas with access of seating above - being close to their loved ones' last place of presence on earth.

Is there any way you can allow a fair evaluation of this?
/m+number  107
02-19-2005 10:53 AM ET (US)
Open /m104 By typing forward slash and the number (with a space before the slash and a space after the number) we can quickly to the post you mentioned such as /m78 This way we do not have to go back (page by page) until we arrive at the post. Just a suggestion to make it easy for readers.
Dad  106
02-18-2005 09:33 PM ET (US)
/m105, Maybe we're reading into Mr. Martin's comments differently. The way he put the word memorial in quotation marks, I took to be a deserved poke at the vacant two acres of space in RA and the vacancy of the design itself, not the site as a whole.

The post about the Necropolis is even more fitting. The underground tombs turn the whole thing into an altar of death, a tribute to the success of the terrorists.

What is supposed to be remembered here? Terror? Death? Or the coming together to deal the situation? Is it possible to have something uplifting, serene, peaceful? Will everyone have to raise their voice to speak to one another over that continuous toilet flush sound.

I'm not in complete agreement with Mr. Martin either, but as I interpret his article, he makes some valid points that got printed outside of a blog.
OpenPerson was signed in when posted  105
02-18-2005 07:45 PM ET (US)
I might add that I believe it will be the most visited site in the United States for many years to come. Talk about profitable, you couldn't have a better place to make money (outside the 4.7 acres of the memorial, of course.) You've got people visiting the memorial, people going to the museum, people going to the symphony, people going to the theatre, and they all have to eat! You'll have restaurants and retail lining Fulton Street and Greenwich Street, and the concourses that run underneath these streets will also have retail and food. Behind the memorial and cultural buildings will be six (not including the new 7 WTC) new office buildings with many companies hopefully filling them and also turning profits. So I believe that Mr. Martin is dead wrong about the site, and I also believe he hasn't done his homework. He hasn't a clue about development down there.
OpenPerson was signed in when posted  104
02-18-2005 07:37 PM ET (US)
Dad,

    In regard to post #99, written by Andy Martin, I suggest you check out my responses (two of them) to him. They can be found at Post #78. (The original piece was written on February 8th and posted by City on February 9th.) Why he thinks the memorial site will be vacant is beyond me. I contend that if it is built right, and I do believe it will be done correctly, in no small part because of the pressure City and I are putting on them, then I believe that the place will be teaming with visitors from 8:00am until midnight on most days, and especially on weekends.
Cityslob  103
02-18-2005 06:29 PM ET (US)
Published: Friday, February 18, 2005

9-11 artifacts tell deadly day's tale
The Smithsonian exhibit on display at the Washington State History Museum tells of the tragedy without trying to explain why it happened.

By Sharon Wootton
Special to The Herald


TACOMA - If there are still tears to shed for those lost on Sept. 11, 2001, this is a good place to shed them.

The Smithsonian Institute exhibit, "September 11: Bearing Witness to History," at the Washington State History Museum offers a time for reflection about the day when four hijacked airplanes killed about 3,000 people in New York City, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania.

The exhibit presents artifacts that spark discussion, often through the element of surprise, such as a crushed file cabinet that was in Ben and Jerry's at the World Trade Center.


http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/02/18/..._9-11exhibit001.cfm
Cityslob  102
02-18-2005 06:25 PM ET (US)
9-11 quilt proved to be worldwide work of love
Volunteers from 18 countries including Australia, Japan and South Africa mailed individual squares to 36-year-old freelance graphic designer.
By Seung Hwa Hong
Daily Breeze

Three weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, Long Beach resident Corey Gammel, who could not believe what he saw on television, went to New York to see ground zero for himself.

It took Gammel five hours of begging several firefighters and police officers to be allowed access to the site where once the World Trade Center towers stood. The one fireman who agreed to escort him down told him, "You're one persistent person. It pays off."

 
 
That persistent attitude drove the 36-year-old freelance graphic designer to put together a quilt in memory of the victims. The quilt is made of 142 panels and, if laid out side by side, stretches a quarter of a mile long, 300 feet more than the World Trade Center towers were tall. Each 10½-square-foot panel is composed of 25 squares, each square representing a victim's life.

 
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/1278882.html
Cityslob  101
02-18-2005 06:17 PM ET (US)
LMDC President Kevin Rampe also gave testimony before the select committee, noting that he wants the LMDC to be judged on the ultimate result of the demolition, and not on each version of the demolition plan released.


"We full expect comments and changes to the plan, I think that's important for people to understand," he explained. "We recognize that we are dealing with a contaminated building."


He defended the EPA and the other involved city and state agencies, saying the EPA should be applauded for taking a leadership role in the process and that each agency has its own purpose. "Each of the agencies has their own regulatory impact and we need approval from all of them. One group doesn't have all the say."


Rampe asserted that the LMDC demolition process will continue to invite public comment and to remain transparent.
Dad  100
02-18-2005 05:07 AM ET (US)
/m97, /m99, Finally some meaningful and accurate journalistic criticism. Long overdue.
Cityslob  99
02-17-2005 08:18 PM ET (US)

CONTRARIAN COMMENTARY BY ANDY MARTIN

[ANDY MARTIN AND AMERICA’S DAILY BRIEFING: COMING TO SAN FRANCISCO FEBRUARY 12-19]

“THE REAL WORLD TRADE CENTER MEMORIAL”


(NEW YORK)(February 8) Since September 11, 2001 politicians have fallen over themselves to milk every ounce of personal profit from that horrible tragedy. One of the most obscene spectacles has been the continuing carnival over a suitable World Trade Center (WTC) “memorial.” Former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Governor George Pataki have drained the surviving families of any and every conceivable emotional energy by making extravagant promises that the World Trade Center is “hallowed ground” and must be preserved vacant for posterity. What nonsense.

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=250
Cityslob  98
02-16-2005 06:29 PM ET (US)
General Project Plan Amendment/Eminent Domain Procedure Law Public Comment Period and Public Hearing

On December 27, 2004 the LMDC released the General Project Plan (GPP) Amendments for public comment and also announced the intent to acquire the property at 140 Liberty Street as well as portions of adjacent streets around this site. A combined public hearing to solicit public comment on the proposed Amendments and the proposed acquisition under the Eminent Domain Procedure Law and the Urban Development Corporation Act was noticed and held on January 26, 2005 at 6:00 PM at St. John's University at 101 Murray Street New York, New York 10007. The public comment period opened on December 27, 2004 and was originally scheduled to close on February 25, 2005, but has been extended to March 10, 2005.
 

http://www.renewnyc.com/Participate/default.asp
design dilemmaPerson was signed in when posted  97
02-16-2005 11:33 AM ET (US)
Architecture: Ground Zero Memorial Becomes Necropolis to Grief

(The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Bloomberg.)

By James S. Russell

Feb. 15 (Bloomberg) -- When Michael Arad's winning design for a memorial at Ground Zero was first unveiled in January 2004, it won praise for its compelling subtlety. Reminiscent of the simplicity of Maya Lin's Vietnam War Memorial, Arad outlined the footprints of the destroyed twin towers with torrents of water that would vanish into pits.

The design united the idea of a vortex, evoking the devastation of Sept. 11, 2001, with life-giving water that urged contemplation.

A year later, comparisons can no longer be made to Lin's masterpiece. It was inevitable the planned memorial would grow to a disturbingly large size, once it was deemed that the towers' footprints must be entirely preserved -- for political, not design reasons, in response to pleas from some of the victims' family members.

In the past year, the proposed project has expanded into a vast commemorative complex; it threatens to become a grandiose paean to grief.

Arad's original design called for a gallery around each pit, opening to the waterfall. In front, a low wall would bear the engraved names of those lost on Sept. 11. One could accept the lack of specificity in the first design presentation; it was the product of only weeks of work and heavy doctoring by officials behind the scenes.

Empty Grandeur

Just before Christmas, New York Governor George Pataki, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Lower Manhattan Development Corporation officials unveiled an updated design of the Ground Zero memorial. That presentation focused on humanizing refinements to the 4.7-acre memorial plaza by landscape architect Peter Walker, who is working with 34-year-old Arad and the architecture firm Davis Brody Bond.

Unfortunately, officials have disclosed little about the underground spaces, which have expanded hugely without any refinement in design. A grand, 12,000-square-foot hall will link the galleries of the north and south towers, but its only purpose is to house a directory of the deceased.

One level below, at bedrock -- which Arad had reserved for a private mausoleum containing unidentified remains -- a 60-foot- high, 24,000-square-foot hall has been added. It will expose the stubs of the massive exterior columns that held up the north tower and a 70-foot length of the now-famous slurry wall.

Nothing else seems planned for this space, as big as a floor of a standard office tower. In one rendering, visitors stand inches from the slurry wall and stare at it -- presumably transfixed by the air-bubble pattern in its sprayed-concrete surface.

Flushing Sounds

The surfaces below ground are finished in identical grids of cast concrete, suggesting a vast, bland gloominess. There's no intimacy to contrast with the enormity. With all that water pouring down around you, and its noise echoing off all those hard surfaces, the effect could only be of a gigantic lavatory in a perpetual state of flush.

No proportion or detail speaks to the individual in this design, now budgeted at an intimidating $250 million. Architecture only works when in some conscious or subconscious way it registers at a recognizable human scale, tunes itself to physical forces, or to the body. The size of the tower footprints themselves (equal to half of a city block) registers the enormity of the tragedy.

Teddy Bears, Twisted Beams

Imposing as it is, officials no longer regard Arad's design as sufficient commemoration. They have added an underground Memorial Center -- essentially a museum. A report released last year spelled out grand curatorial ambitions. It will display artifacts of the destruction -- the twisted beams and wrecked fire trucks now stored in a hanger at Kennedy Airport -- and emblems of grief such as the teddy bears, origami birds and American flags visitors left at the site. It will tell the life story of each victim.

This $90 million center could, at 70,000 square feet or more, be larger than the underground memorial space. Davis Brody Bond has just embarked on the enormously difficult task of defining a program that does not turn the Memorial Center into a celebration of unending sorrow or a chamber of horrors.

The International Freedom Center -- its scope and cost ($75 million is a safe guess) as yet unformed -- will fill much of the ``cultural'' building at the northeast corner of the memorial plaza. A visitor center is also planned, so that no one need feel that they have to approach the site without being told what to think.

Redemption?

To appreciate the vastness of this project, consider the USS Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor: a simple, 184-foot-long pavilion. Tellingly, it was completed 30 years after the Pearl Harbor attack, long after the story had become a redemptive one - - the nation's darkest hour transformed into a victory against fascism.

Regrettably, the story that began at Ground Zero isn't over yet, and we don't know how it will end. The ``war on terror'' and the lives it takes must inescapably be part of Ground Zero's meaning.

The memorial, its mission statement says, must ``strengthen our resolve to preserve freedom and inspire an end to hatred, ignorance, and intolerance.'' This laudable goal has all but vanished as it has grown into a necropolis essentially dedicated only to the victims.

The visitor a generation or so from now might conclude that the scope of the tragedy was so enormous that the terrorists succeeded in their goals. It's time to slow this juggernaut and take stock.
 

 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=100...X7xN4&refer=culture
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