QuickTopic (SM) free message boards QuickTopic (SM) free message boards
Skip to Messages
  Sign In to access your topic list  |New Topic |My Topics|Profile
Upgrade to Pro   Customize, show pictures, add an intro, and more:   QuickTopic Pro...and check out QuickThreadSM
Topic: CSE 291 Assignment 3, Winter 2005
Views: 1810, Unique: 510 
Subscribers: 0
What's
this?
Printer-Friendly Page
Subscribe to get & post, or stop messages by email Subscribe
All messages    << 35-50  19-34 of 50  3-18 >>
About these ads
Who | When
Messagessort recent-top   
Post a new message
 
Hyun Min Kang  19
02-11-2005 12:37 PM ET (US)
/m17 Thanks for the information. I found dirichlet there, but Zipf distribution is not stated clearly, and there is no power law distribtution. Where can I get these info?
Hyun Min Kang  20
02-11-2005 09:44 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 02-11-2005 09:44 PM
In problem 4, I don't get the last sentence. What did you mean by "distribution of estimate"? For example, if avg(x1,..,xn) is the MLE of \mu in Gaussian, what is the distribution of the estimate?
Ryan Kelley  21
02-11-2005 11:40 PM ET (US)
\m20 Just as a random variable has a distribution, so does some function of that variable. Since an estimator is just a function of the data, it will some distribution as well. In your example, if x1,...,xn are iid gaussian(\mu,\sigma^2), then avg(x1,...,xn) will follow a gaussian distribution with mean \mu and variance \frac{\sigma^2}{n}
Charles ElkanPerson was signed in when posted  22
02-12-2005 12:56 AM ET (US)
/m19 answer: One lesson to learn from this problem is that widely used terms may not have a universally shared definition. You should make the definition you use clear.

The wikipedia is an excellent reference. Here is a paper that explicitly discusses the confusion:
http://www.hpl.hp.com/research/idl/papers/ranking/ranking.html

For the contemporary importance of power laws see
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/294/5548/1849
Charles ElkanPerson was signed in when posted  23
02-12-2005 01:02 AM ET (US)
/m18 answer: Natural parameters are explained here: http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/elkan/291/lect08.pdf

The issue is, when you look for an open rectangle, do you have to look in the space of natural parameters, or can you look in the space of original parameters?
Charles ElkanPerson was signed in when posted  24
02-12-2005 01:07 AM ET (US)
/m21 answer: Yes.
Hyun Min Kang  25
02-12-2005 12:13 PM ET (US)
/m21 /m24 Thanks. I understand what you mean. One more question. Can we assume that the number of cross-section is always n? If the organelles are distributed randomly, the number of cross-section will actually vary. So, the distribution should involve the probability distribution of n also. But since there is no description about the density of the organelles, I cannot compute the exact distribution. (Also, the problem becomes much more complicated).
Charles ElkanPerson was signed in when posted  26
02-12-2005 03:47 PM ET (US)
/m25 answer: Yes, you may assume that the number of cross-sections n is fixed.
Stephen Krotosky  27
02-13-2005 01:55 AM ET (US)
For problem 4,

I've figured out what the distribution looks like, and I believe I can define it mathematically, but am having trouble doing so. Basically what I would like to do is transform a uniform distribution to the desired one. Here is my logic.

If we look at a cross section of an organelle of radius r, the cross section can be thought of as cutting the organelle at a point x that is generated uniformly from -r..r. This corresponds to the front and back of the sphere relative to the cutting plane.

If we know where the sphere is cut, we can compute the observed radius, Z = sqrt(r^2 - x^2). My questions is how can I use the function for Z and the fact that x is uniform to find the pdf (likelihood function) for Z.

I know this is possible but am having difficulty actually doing it. Thanks.
Jan Schellenberger  28
02-13-2005 05:34 AM ET (US)
/m27
There is a trick.

You can use the CDF of the uniform (P(z<Z)) to correspond to some CDF of the radii (P(r>R)). Once you have that, the PDF is the derivative of the CDF.
Stephen Krotosky  29
02-13-2005 02:24 PM ET (US)
Thanks, I had figured that out.

Now I'm having trouble finding the MLE, because i'm having trouble breaking up the sum for the total score function.

I know that each x_i ~ p*(x_i,r) = x_i / ( r sqrt(r^2-x^2)

s(x_i,r) = -1/r - r/(r^2-x_i)^2

I need to find s(x,r) = \sum s(x_i,r)

When I do that, I can't seem to separate it into something solveable. Does anyone have any tips on manipulating the sum to give the score function in terms that will put the sum only on the x_i's

Thanks,

Stephen


--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005
Stephen Krotosky  30
02-13-2005 02:25 PM ET (US)
/m29 sorry that should read:

s(x_i,r) = -1/r - r/(r^2-x_i^2)
Banu Dost  31
02-13-2005 02:27 PM ET (US)
For problem 4, which variable is uniformly distributed? Is the distance of a cross-section or the radius of a sphere itself? How can we decide this? In both cases, we get similar pdf but not the same.
Charles ElkanPerson was signed in when posted  32
02-13-2005 02:51 PM ET (US)
/m31 answer: Your question is perhaps the part of the problem that is conceptually the least clear. I think the answer is that the point at which each organelle is aliced is uniformly distributed, hence the observed radius of the disk obtained from the organelle is not uniformly distributed.
Charles ElkanPerson was signed in when posted  33
02-13-2005 02:54 PM ET (US)
/m29 answer: Remember, you can maximize f(x) by setting its derivative to zero only when the optimal x is in the interior of the allowed range for x.
   34
07-19-2006 07:31 PM ET (US)
Deleted by topic administrator 07-22-2006 09:30 AM
RSS link What's this?
All messages    << 35-50  19-34 of 50  3-18 >>
QuickTopicSM message boards
Over 200,000 topics served
Learn more Frequently asked questions  Acknowledgements
What they're saying about QuickTopic
 Questions, comments, or suggestions? Contact Us
Read our use policy before beginning. We value your privacy; please read our privacy statement.
Copyright ©1999-2008 Internicity Inc. All rights reserved.