/m796

"LOL... i think you're Edward,"

Do I look like I care what you think? Bear in mind that you recently decided that Edward was 'usedbybaba'. You change your opinion with the wind and nobody cares anymore about what you think with your crackpot ideas. When everyone else seems to be accepting Edward as an independent person. Your history in this is not very good.

"few times that he replied he posted at the same time you did on ssb2. Usually you post late at night but at those times both of you posted during afternoon.What a coincidence.You usually don't do that."

And this is further proof that you don't even know what you're talking about. For the record, I did not and do not come online in the daytimes. If you are referring to my post on SSB2 (sending a link to a weblog), then you obviously weren't smart enough to figure out that it was posted the previous night, and it was somehow delayed in one of Yaho's backlogs. Please ignore the times when your posts were caught up in Yahoo's backlogs and showed up several hours after they were posted, it doesn't matter because I must have posted in the afternoon in contrary to my usual practice. *rolls eyes* Get a life and discuss some issues about Sai Baba, you're really becoming extremely boring when you clog up this board with your ridiculous fight with usedbybaba.

"btw..i have multiple usernames in that group and it's gonna be so different"

Nice to know that you also have multiple usernames which you are perfectly willing to use in deception. :-) Maybe you are Edward? :-)

I already know all of your different IDs. Break the rules and get banned and all of your IDs will get banned. Your silly games won't work. You just don't get it, do you?

/m794

"The links you provided did not address your claim that Sathya Sai Baba (actual quote) "rapes boys as young as three" (Reference)."

Looks like Gerald 'Joe' Moreno is the only lying drunk around here, because he clearly couldn't read this:

"Four years ago in the public discussions boards, I made a statement about Sai Baba's homosexual paedophilia behaviour that included a claim about the Baba's rapes of little children as young as three years old ... Looking back on this topic, I now realise that this statement was somewhat exaggerated in the context of regular discussion of other victims of Sai Baba's sexual abuse. I have also since come to recognise that Sai Baba's abuse may not only be characterised as sexual abuse, but may take many other forms such as verbal abuse, emotional abuse, emotional blackmail, physical abuse (as in violence) and general manipulation."

If Gerald wants to quibble about details or exaggerations, as well as argue about the difference between raping a child versus beating him black and blue, let him entier an Abuse Support Forum and broadcast his views there just to see what kind of reactions he will get. :-) Clearly, anyone with a brain can see that his arguments have no merits. And above all, he didn't address anything about the point of Sai Baba's vicious and animalistic sadistic beating and torture of a 3 year old child.

And by the way, Homoreno, you are the only one here trying to suck up to Edward. Even after you viciously insulted him by barking insults into his face like a mad dog, all because he made a chance commentabout you being on drugs (which may not be too far from the truth), you still tried/try to smear me even after he has already declared that he is not interested in anything that you have to say. Tough luck. Edward's opinion of you is the same as Abulafia's, Guru Beau Peep, Guruphiliac and anybody else who thinks that you are off your head. Even Sathya Sai Baba cringes in embarrassment everytime you open your mouth, since you are a clearly confused clown who cannot explain your investment in him. *shrugs* Oh dear.

Keep on rehashing old stuff instead of being forced to deal with new facts and running away. I no longer care for your pathetic and childish games. :-)

By the way, you do realise that your pink and red text make you look like even more of a homosexual than you already are? :-)

/m797

And don't forget Dadlani also intimated that Jesus might have been a pedophile (while making lewd comments about the religious photos) on that other
now-defunct message board.

Sanjay seems to project his own dark motivations onto everyone else. O'Clery seemed to do the same thing.

Sanjay, stop trying to suck up to Edward. He is too religious to accept you after you lusted after his chosen savior, Jesus Christ, and even requested "naughty" pictures of Jesus to satisfy your Jesus-Sex-Fetishist.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
"Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

Edited by author 10-27-2006 10:24 PM
"Kristijan, you're now on Stage 2. I've told you before."
_____________________


LOL... i think you're Edward, few times that he replied he posted at the same time you did on ssb2.Usually you post late at night but at those times both of you posted during afternoon.What a coincidence.You usually don't do that.
btw..i have multiple usernames in that group and it's gonna be so different
When I'm on the stage tonight the Super Trouper lights are gonna find me
Shining like the sun Smiling, having fun Feeling like a number one!

Edited by author 03-03-2008 01:23 AM
/m791


Notice how Dadlani says, "I appreciate this issue is not as exciting as Sai Baba's homosexual pedophilia..." So the sicko admits he is involved in this because it is "exciting," NOT because he is interesting in the TRUTH.

Dadlani the hypocrite's main weapon is ad hominem attacks, i.e. calling people names (i.e., homoreno, etc.). His second weapon of choice is mocking people and acting like he is a great brain who knows everything, when in reality he is one of the dumbest anti-Sais. Yet the coward whines like a crybaby when his tactics and continuous lies continually come back to haunt him (and rightly so). I don't even bother to read his garbage anymore as it is a waste of time trying to wade through his idiocy and he is using it as an attention-seeking device. Dadlani's continual lies and one-sided misrepresentations prove he is not at all interested in the truth.

Can you imagine what his life is like off of the internet if he acts like this in the non-cyber world?


Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Sanjay, you not only a pathological liar, you are obviously drunk off your feet.

The links you provided did not address your claim that Sathya Sai Baba (actual quote) "rapes boys as young as three" (Reference).

In the articles you cited from your blog, you claimed that a 3 year old child was beaten, not raped, as you earlier claimed. And you said "boys" (plural, not singular). Once again, you have exposed yourself as a pathetic liar! Where is the proof that Sathya Sai Baba "rapes boys as young as three"?

Where did you get this information from (since you were the only person who made this claim)? Since you have nothing to hide, you should provide your proof here so everyone can see what an honest, forthcoming and decent person you are. What are you waiting for? Do it.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272
"Sai Baba EXPOSED" Exposed

Edited by author 10-27-2006 09:49 PM
As I just stated, devotees of Sathya Sai Baba have nothing better to do than to deflect and shift the focus onto issues that are irrelevant to the Baba. :-) That's when they are not engaging in ad-hominem attacks as part of said deflection, in order to mask an impotent and weak defence of the Baba that does not answer any of the major current points without rehashing those dealt with in the past. :-)

As regards the abuse of the 3-year-old child, this has already been dealt with, duh. And don't forget to read the update. No one can deny my vindication :-), and nobody can deny that Sathya Sai Baba is an evil, sadistic pervert who viciously harmed little children without remorse. Yes, even as young as three.

Edward, I forgot to mention that the reason why Sathya Sai Baba's birthday was shifted from October 4th 1929 to November 23rd 1926 was because they wanted to capitalise on a cryptic statement by Sri Aurobindo, who was a very famous saint in those times. Apparently Aurobindo had come out on the November 24th 1926 and declared to his followers about how "Krishna Consciousness" had descended into the physical. Incorrigible Sai devotee claim (flasely) that this refers to the descent of God that supposedly took place on the previous day. We now know that this wholly untrue since Sai Baba was born in 1929, and that Aurobindo's followers widely accept this cryptic remark as referreing to the descent of "Krishna Consciousness" into himself. :-)

Kristijan, you're now on Stage 2. I've told you before. Nice to know you've come out in support of a known racist, by the way.

Edited by author 10-27-2006 09:21 PM
/m790
<cinnamonshops@...> wrote:
please!!! anyone spending so much time trying to find
a date of birth??? Does Not HAve a Life.
who gives a shit????? do u think all the sick poor
people who go to the super speciality hospital when
they're gravely ill are going to stop and say: hey did
u read saiexposanada's research about swami's birth
day descrepency??????....uhh lets not go to this
hospital cause the date's wrong.........duhh
do u think when someones ray of hope is swami, is
going to care two hoots about this research?????
A few people I know above 65 who were born in rural
india, told me there's allways descrepencies with
birth certificates and what they call school leaving
certificates.
Basically what these critics are doing is shooting
arrows in darkness. .
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibab...onclub/message/6954

Edited by author 10-27-2006 08:47 PM
Perhaps Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") (the fully exposed Jesus-Sex-Fetishist) can provide us the PROOF that Sathya Sai Baba has engaged in "homosexual paedophila and murders"? I have been asking for proof for years and Sanjay and his group of thugs can only offer speculations, conspiracy theories, assumptions and the like. Of course, Sanjay is the same liar who claimed that Sathya Sai Baba raped children 3 years of age (when no one ever supported him in this claim, even Anti-Sai Activists).

There is no believing a Pathological Liar like Sanjay.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba Exposed") Blog

Edited by author 10-27-2006 08:34 PM
Edward, sorry for not answering your questions earlier. The cut-and-thrust of the "discussions" here make me lose track and I sometimes have to review what I've missed. Yesterday I was tired and didn't bother coming online at all.

Anyway, as per your question, I appreciate that you find it hard to understand the latest School Lies exposure because it is rather complicated, at least with all the new information that has turned up. Basically the situation is like this; every Sai devotee has been taught from the beginning that Sai Baba was born on November 23rd 1926. Because Sai Baba is revered as an incarnation of God on earth, his birthday has premier status and it is the most-attended festival in his ashram drawing crowds of several million. The birthday is actually a holy day (being the "birthday" of "God" and consequently the lives of every devotee revolves around it. Here in the UK, I have already seen posters at street stores advertising the upcoming birthday festivals where they're all gearing up to celebrate it.

New information has turned up that strongly suggests that Sai Baba's real birthdate is Ocotber 4th, 1929. This idea was first mooted in 2002 with the discovery of Sai Baba's school record when he attended school at Bukkapatnam (a village opposite his home town of Puttaparthi). Several objections have been made against the authenticity of this school record by several people. However, even newer information (released for the first time on the Internet by yours truly) corroborate the 1929 birthdate as true and authentic, mainly by the production of Sai Baba's transfer certificate from the Kamalapuram school to the Bukkapatnam school, and also by the school record from his school at Uravakonda. Sai Baba's education was frequently disrupted because he was in the charge of his elder brother, a teacher, who was himself frequently transferred to work at different schools. So Sai Baba attended four schools in all - Puttaparthi, Kamalapuram, Bukkapatnam, Uravakonda.

Naturally I can't just post this evidence without checking out first, and so I did my own investigation by researching the "official biographies" (sloppy writing as they are) as well as the unofficial ones, and I have found that there are several great reasons for why the 1929 birthdate is the correct one. The objections against the 1929 birthdate have been thoroughly discounted as being unfeasible.

I appreciate that this issue is not as "exciting" as Sai Baba's homosexual paedophila and murders etc., but as I have been saying for a long time the Sai Exposé is multi-faceted and it is not always about sex. For example, my personal taste is to discover and comment on the Baba's philosophical and theological discrepancies. Originally my blog was meant for this purpose as well as to work out some of my own trauma processing, but it has not grown into a big tree where everything is discovered and reported. The importance of this School Lies issue was necessary because of the earlier Shirdi Lies exposé, where Sathya Sai Baba's claims to be the reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba have been proven to be false using many new evidences and new information from Shirdi sources. That Shirdi Lies exposure already turned up the information that the "declaration" took place in 1943 instead of the official line of 1940. That's why the point behind the School Lies was to show how Sai Baba was in school in 1940 and thus could not have declared himself as Shirdi Sai reborn until 1943. As far as I am concerned it is a done deal; there is already a large body of evidence that proves that Sathya Sai's history is fraudulent and contrived, and there is much more to come. This is very powerful and I am encouraged when I think that the exposure of these issues will break the backbone of the Sai Organisation, at least philosophically.

Hope that explained it for you Edward, and sorry again for not replying earlier. Speaking of which, I see from the recent activity on this board that brainwashed and demented Sai devotees have succeeded in ruining this board (like they do to every other board) by engaging in distracting and irrelevant topics. That's when they are not launching ad-hominem attacks at all who do not agree with their views. This is pure cowardice and weak tactics because they are completely unable to come up with any form of proof or defence that their pervert guru is not innocent of everything that he is charged with, so they try to shift the focus instead by repeating the same things over and over again that are completely irrelevant and have been fully addressed many times before in the past. Childish, fanatical and deranged behaviour.

So I have created a new QuickTopic board: Sai Baba EXPOSED!, you're very welcome to post there and have a discussion. That invitation is open to everyone else too, so long as they discuss the issues and lay off all irrelevant talk. By the way, I notice from your words that you are something of a devout Christian (and that you have also received some stick for it). You might be interested in taking a look at this: Sai Baba's Contradictions on Jesus Christ.

Edited by author 10-27-2006 03:47 PM
It doesn't matter how many contradictions and obvious lies you point out to Sanjay and his true believer buddies, they still believe anything they hear, regardless of the provable facts, as long as it's negative.

They took a wrong turn at the very beginning by not dealing with the issue as to why none of these complainants have ever filed charges and never asking any hard questions of the accusers or vetting for mental problems. You are not allowed to ask the accusers (ALL grown men, mind you) tough questions because they are "abuse victims" and it will "traumatize them" (roll eyes). However, it's perfectly ok for them to traumatize everyone else with their unprovable accusations, lies and abuse.

I've never seen so many whiney grown men with such poor excuses.

i wonder what Sanjay thinks about this character.I guess he believes him unconditionally.

Yeah, the internet draws a lot of immature wackos who like to play games under anonymous names. Internet is the perfect play ground for con artists to find gullible victims.

"BTW, Angelic, I have been looking over usedbybaba's posts on the other board and this one and first he said he only gave a blow job once ("it was a one time job," was the way he phrased it), then he said he did it "a few times," so his story changes on a regular basis."
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forget the blow job,"hariharan" was "PIERCING HIM ".

/m743

"Now you are convinced that somebody else with an entirely different username is pretending to be you, without at all considering the possibility that some other Croatian people may want to post on discussion boards."

_____________________________________

yes ,usedbybaba pretended to be me,it's obvious.
Also i noticed the original post was edited 22 hours later,
God knows what he posted in first version.



"sad3 272
09-19-2006 06:18 AM ET (US)
 Edited by author 09-20-2006 04:51 AM
hi! me again! I just want to say I did not want anyone to feel hurt, or attact. all this is hard for me to. By the way, Joe 108 says: anonimus ill people. I am just a student from Croatia, 25 old. I will not be sanding any messegas more, I realy need someone sirius,so that I can talk about this. This kind a conversation is not something I am used to. At the end I used to say :sai ram, but now only,bye "

Edited by author 10-27-2006 08:23 PM
if you start reading the other thread from the beginning ,you'll notice eventhough sometimes it took weeks or months for somebody to post in many cases whenever there's a negative comment posted ,few replies follow immediately few minutes later and they're posted under different usernames.
It's obviously 1 person 80% of the time replying to himself and it seems it's the same person all these years.

So usedbybaba aka hariharan, do you have HIV and is this why you are on the warpath with Sai Baba (because you blame him for your disease)?

If you have HIV, you got it because you had unprotected sex with someone. God nor anybody else is responsible for your choices. You can reclaim your power by reclaiming your responsibility for your own choices rather than giving your power away by blaming everyone else for your problems. Can a person be healed if they do not accept responsibility for their own (choices) creation? How can a person create if they do not take responsibility for their own creations (even the so-called bad ones)?

Edited by author 03-03-2008 01:08 AM
Is Sanjay aka Sai Baba Exposed a motormouth or what? It's like the guy gets going and cannot control his mouth! LOL.

Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 10-27-2006 01:18 PM
Ok,so now you've read them and once again you're mute.


what else is new?

Edited by author 10-27-2006 01:19 PM
 
"usedbybaba 778
 
10-27-2006 09:18 AM ET (US)
"by the way send me some of my non usedbybaba posts.let me read them."

_____________________________


OK ,here you go,read them .



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"hariharan 270
09-17-2006 05:38 AM ET (US)
I studied in swami's school and i know all the things. I HAD POSTED A MESSAGE I DON'T KNOW WHO RUBBED IT. i WAS ALSO A VERY VERY FORM GUY AND BABA GAME ME A RING A CHAIN AND A WATCH,OFCOURSE HE WAS ALWAYS WATCHING WHOM I WAS WITH ETC CAUSE HE WAS JEALOUS OF MY DEVELOPING RELATIONS WITH OTHERS. HE MADE ME HAD SEX WITH HIM BUT THAT WAS ANAL TO HIM AND IT WAS BIT DIFFICULT PIERCING HIM SO HE WOULD JUST SUCK FOR ME AND COVERING HIS FRONT PART SMARTLY ASK ME TO SEE HIS SAKTI SWOORAP IE TO FEEL HIMS FEMALE THINGS,OFCOURSE THAT WAS A FARCE AS HE WOULD HIDE HIS LIGHT LIMP ORGAN CLEAVERLY. HE LOVE D TO CAALL HIMSELF AN ANGLO INDIAN LADY ALSO.N "


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"hari haran 261
 09-15-2006 02:14 AM ET (US)
 Hi brothers at parthi and other guys. I have studied at the parthi school and i have recived a chain and a watch and a ring from swami and i know the price i have payed for it . I also loved inserting my penis behind baba as he liked it and though he could not take it in fully. But i am also hiv positive . The fact was discovered after i left parthi. I had to tell of my early life at parthi to the doctor as i was councelled about my disease. But i know that swami is through enjoyment and i also know of some other teachers who were interested in kundalini question . I hope the other brothers will understand what i mean. so have fun with swami and enjoy the hiv ride. I can only say that i kept mostly to swami and two other guys only.I hope they too are healthy bye and love "

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"sad3 272
09-19-2006 06:18 AM ET (US)
 Edited by author 09-20-2006 04:51 AM
hi! me again! I just want to say I did not want anyone to feel hurt, or attact. all this is hard for me to. By the way, Joe 108 says: anonimus ill people. I am just a student from Croatia, 25 old. I will not be sanding any messegas more, I realy need someone sirius,so that I can talk about this. This kind a conversation is not something I am used to. At the end I used to say :sai ram, but now only,bye "

No,not at all.I've seen plenty of your older posts and I'm no longer interested in anything you have to say ,you've said enough.

So if i don't talk about myself you are not interested.Do you mean you are here to talk about me.mmmm
by the way send me some of my non usedbybaba posts.let me read them.
DO YOU KNOW THAT SEBESTEIN THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AS BEING ME, IS A WHITE
WHO WAS FAMOUS IN PARTHIU FOR A TIME BECAUSE BABA CALLED HIM "SHAYMA".FURTHER HE WANTED TO SELL HIS BABA GIVEN WATCH.

BY the way baba also tried calling a srilankan as "Swami vivekananda" and that vivekanada was in jeans and never came back to baba again. Maybe baba goes to him in sri lanka and has fun with him in his other omnipresent form.

SO MUCH FOR THE AVATAR.

Joe ,lisa an Angel answer my question .
Baba says my life is my message.Is it worth following his life as an example.

Edited by author 10-27-2006 09:13 AM
/m771
"so Angel , you are still trying to find out who iam "
No,not at all.I've seen plenty of your older posts and I'm no longer interested in anything you have to say ,you've said enough.

Edited by author 10-27-2006 09:03 AM
These are the Golden words of Lisa.some of these are her response to my normal posts, ofcourse she abuses everyone and there are some attacking Sanjay,But NEVER ANSWERING ANY QUETION ON BABA

"Sinjay must be drunk again. He is acting like the "dick-tate
The ONLY racist here is you dork! Y
Dummies like you seem to be trying to make honest, intelligent

Sanjay, you are so dumb! It's obvious Andy was MIMICKING the racists' attitude you idiot. See, this is why it's useless trying to reply to you about SO many things! Because you are SOOOOOOO DUMB things have to be explained to you like you are a five year old!!!! And it happens SOOOOOOO often it's clear that you must be somewhat mentally retarded. No crime except that you are so narcissistic and condescending like you think you are a rocket scientist

and your perverted anti-Sai friends whose minds are constantly in the gutter. I've never seen so many wackos who can take the simplest truth and twist it into oblivion and actually do it

Usedbybaba, you need to get off of the drugs or whatever it is you are on. You are not even making sense. All you do is play childish mind games and I'm not going to pla

Usedbybaba, whether you realize it or not you a babbling like a drunk.


Part two

These are Joe’s posts (again I have not abused him but these are his response)


Apparently Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is posting while he is drunk again.

Usedbybaba There is no believing an anonymous and faceless hypocrite to defames others unapologetically under the guise of anonymity

Edward, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. You are a liar, an embellisher and a self-righteous hypocrite.


I KNOW JOE WIll IMMDIATELY COPY MY ABUSEIVE POST DONE NEARLY A MONTH ARE TWO AGO.

Now you know how the devotees (oh sorry non devotees who believe in baba as God and avatar) write.

The funny part is I an infidel (as far as baba is concerned) has stopped abusing whereas the so called non devotees (maybe paid devotees) are continuing ( maybe we should remind everyone that they are P.D s(paid devotees) and NOT DEVOTEES.

Edward, to the contrary, you "abused" me first, asking me if I was on drugs. Then you went off on a fibbing-spree about Sathya Sai Baba raping children (/m646).

The joke is they (lisa and joe with angel's tacit support ) call everyone names and respond like they are saints,when you ask.I never started the abuse
but when Lisa called me a pervert, joe never bothered,but when i give her back, he immediately calls me a pervert. Anyhow these are nothing but ways to divert from the topic.
I wonder why they don't include you(edward) in my "list " of names under which i was supposed to have written.

Let the "nuetral" hired computer expert waste his time.

This is a new way of diverting from the topic.Well tried Angel

so Angel , you are still trying to find out who iam instead of talking about the topic. By the way why did you forget the usual question about my 15 years?

Request to Freestone:

Could you please check and see why the board does not have the "see all messages" feature listed at the top of the page? If you can enable it,, it would make it much easier for me and others to search old posts. Thanks.
Hope you are doing well. Haven't seen you post here for a while.

yeah it looks familiar i also noticed a post from 2002 on that board earlier while browsing and it was exactly the same post he made recently i think.I don't feel like searching for it now,but it was him obviously.

Edited by author 10-26-2006 08:49 PM
/m761

I was looking back over the messages on the other message board Angelic posted and I think usedbybaba also posted as krishna as I see a post (m234) that I think is almost an exact duplicate of something usedbybaba recently wrote either here or the SSB2 board.

Edited by author 10-26-2006 07:43 PM
i checked that thread from the beginning .
Wow,it seems most of the negative comments were written by the same person ,you can see it by the time frame,he responds few minutes later under a diff. nick. few times in a row.
weird.

/m762

While you are at it I think you should add usedbybaba to the list, Joe. He just admitted he does not believe in Avatars and in the same posts he was comparing Baba to Jesus which is VERY telling. Usedbybaba is a Christian. Why are there so many Christians (like Tal Brooke) who lie in the name of God (to make a buck)?

/m761
thnx,i'll check it out.

Edited by author 10-26-2006 02:11 PM
Too funny: "Remove the log in your own eye before you point out the speck in others."

Too bad Edward can't practice what he preaches when it came to his LINCOLN-LOG-SIZED criminal, vicious and unsubstantiated allegations about Sathya Sai Baba "raping children" with no proof! See: /m646

More self-righteous hypocrites who ignore their own faults and try to accuse others of behaviors they engaged in first.

Jeepers, one little comment and you're still rambling on about it? I didn't know you were so sensitive but that doesn't excuse your own behaviour. "Remove the log in your own eye before you point out the speck in others." Now you're going to add my posts to your conspiracy theory about an anti-sai movement by Christians? I think you've gone loopy, no offence or you'll ramble for days about that too.

Edward, to the contrary, you "abused" me first, asking me if I was on drugs. Then you went off on a fibbing-spree about Sathya Sai Baba raping children (/m646).

Needless to say, when asked for proof you went mute. Typical hypocritical blame mentality.

I also created a new page about the Christian Anti-Sai Movement. When I have time, I am going to add Edward's posts on it too.

Edited by author 10-26-2006 01:14 PM
Angelic, "usedbybaba" has used many names. I even blogged about it: Reference.

Some of his other names include: "ex-sai student", "X-S", "saibabagod", "sriram", "sebastian", "ravi saluja", "Another Ex Student", "lenin999", "victimofsaileela", "saurabh", "abhin" and "blldexter". If you look on that other thread and look for these names, you will see exactly what I mean.

Edited by author 10-26-2006 12:51 PM
http://www.quicktopic.com/9/H/ehfcBK8qrWRYZ
"hariharan 270
09-17-2006 05:38 AM ET (US)
I studied in swami's school and i know all the things. I HAD POSTED A MESSAGE I DON'T KNOW WHO RUBBED IT. i WAS ALSO A VERY VERY FORM GUY AND BABA GAME ME A RING A CHAIN AND A WATCH,OFCOURSE HE WAS ALWAYS WATCHING WHOM I WAS WITH ETC CAUSE HE WAS JEALOUS OF MY DEVELOPING RELATIONS WITH OTHERS. HE MADE ME HAD SEX WITH HIM BUT THAT WAS ANAL TO HIM AND IT WAS BIT DIFFICULT PIERCING HIM SO HE WOULD JUST SUCK FOR ME AND COVERING HIS FRONT PART SMARTLY ASK ME TO SEE HIS SAKTI SWOORAP IE TO FEEL HIMS FEMALE THINGS,OFCOURSE THAT WAS A FARCE AS HE WOULD HIDE HIS LIGHT LIMP ORGAN CLEAVERLY. HE LOVE D TO CAALL HIMSELF AN ANGLO INDIAN LADY ALSO.N "

________________________

The writing style of this person is EXACTLY the same as usedbybaba's ,he starts writing in small letters and continues in Caps lock .





usedbybaba this is your recent post,notice the same style

"usedbybaba 725
10-25-2006 07:45 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-25-2006 07:48 AM
usedbybaba "He says his life is his message.-Time and again he has been accused of Cheating ,Molesting, lying, and his materializations are proved fake. Now does this Man Wants us to believe that as God he is above scrutiny"
ANSWER THIS LISA INSTEAD OF ABUSING.JOE KNOWS THAT HE SHOULD KEEP QUITE NOW AND THEN PUT UP A MESSAGE after afew days SAYING "USEDBYBABA EXPOSED" AND THEN QUOTE THE SAME MESSAGE THAT I WROTE IN ANGER.BECAUSE HE CANNOT ANSWER FOR HIS DIVINE MASTERS ANTICS, SO HE JUST WANTS TO DIVERT THE ATTENTION. "


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this is another post by hariharan:

"hari haran 261
 09-15-2006 02:14 AM ET (US)
 Hi brothers at parthi and other guys. I have studied at the parthi school and i have recived a chain and a watch and a ring from swami and i know the price i have payed for it . I also loved inserting my penis behind baba as he liked it and though he could not take it in fully. But i am also hiv positive . The fact was discovered after i left parthi. I had to tell of my early life at parthi to the doctor as i was councelled about my disease. But i know that swami is through enjoyment and i also know of some other teachers who were interested in kundalini question . I hope the other brothers will understand what i mean. so have fun with swami and enjoy the hiv ride. I can only say that i kept mostly to swami and two other guys only. I hope they too are healthy bye and love "


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"sad3 272
09-19-2006 06:18 AM ET (US)
 Edited by author 09-20-2006 04:51 AM
hi! me again! I just want to say I did not want anyone to feel hurt, or attact. all this is hard for me to. By the way, Joe 108 says: anonimus ill people. I am just a student from Croatia, 25 old. I will not be sanding any messegas more, I realy need someone sirius,so that I can talk about this. This kind a conversation is not something I am used to. At the end I used to say :sai ram, but now only,bye "

________________________________________


Conclusion: hariharan=usedbybaba=sad3


usedbybaba , at that time i did not speak with you on this board i did not know about it...i was only responding to you on ssb2 group,so why did you come here on the board i haven't previously used at that point and posted false comments , basically you were pretending to be me.
why did you do that?
Oh and don't try to deny it,there's no point.
At this point it's obvious.

Edited by author 10-26-2006 10:00 AM
Edward or should i say Eddie,LOL.
I think this time it's ubb ,playing to be Edward.

Joe or should I say GERALD, I thought I told you that I'm not interested in your talk, you've been very abusive to me and I'm not interested in being buddy-buddy with anyone least of all you.
Angelic what the hell are you talking about and who are you? What is ssb2 I have never posted there?
Exposed you never answered my question?

Edited by author 10-26-2006 05:27 AM
/m755

Yeah usedbybaba, it's REAL funny how callous and CARELESS you are with your words and accusations. You're a laugh a minute. Your life is CERTAINLY your message (anonymous and full of hypocrisy).

BTW, you seem to keep forgetting YOU are the fool who claims to have worshiped God so much in form that you thought having sex with him would purify you and now you are trying to project your idiocy onto everyone else. Dummies like you seem to be trying to make honest, intelligent devotees look bad when in reality it is you who looks stupid. I don't know any "normal" people who think God would have sex with them to "purify" them. It sounds to me like you have mental problems.

He is either a fraud or Avatar. So how can you give contradictory statements.What do you do with an Avatar(someone whom you have experienced OTHERWISE)if you don't worship? "

what do you do?
U By BABA:I DON'T WORSHIP BABA

Angel"why would you worship a person or a form,that's kinda idiotic,all is one ,get it,God is all,so what's the point in worshiping anyone."

UB First of all You do not seem to have understood the meaning of God is all.What if I worship a person or do otherwise.The point is if you want to worship a human being, he should have been an Avatar or a realized soul and not any tom dick and harry.
Now assuming that we all believe that we can worship an Avatar, we are finding out whether Baba is an Avatar,ie., God Who has come in Human form.
Now you say you can worship

Baba was convicted??
By whom?
I meant accused.But is that the only one you could see in the whole mail.Funny

It should be aptly noted that Sanjay has never refuted having a Jesus-Sex-Fetish (when he had/has every opportunity to do so). Sanjay just sits back on his rump, accuses others of being "lazy" and stubbornly refuses to reference posts he claims exist that no one else can seem to find!

- Proof Of Sanjay's Jesus-Sex-Fetish

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Edited by author 10-25-2006 09:47 PM
Sinjay must be drunk again. He is acting like the "dick-tater." Sorry Sanjay, it has been proven over and over again that YOU are the MOST abusive person ever to inhabit these boards! Just look at you! You NEVER learn to shut your big fat mouth. Go play in your gutter where you belong ya freaking weirdo.

lol

Sanjay, practice before precept :-)

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

/m749

More Lies from Psychopathic Joe!

Do not clutter up this forum with useless and abusive posts. Discuss the issues or pack your bags, coward.

It should be aptly noted that I have always denied having a "Jesus sex fetish" and the proof is in the back archives of ssb2. Lazy people like Homoreno who do not even bother to research will claim that the posts do not exist, when they have plenty of opportunity to get off their fat asses and do some real research instead of concocting fake and misleading blogs.

Tough Luck. I have plenty of proof of Gerald Homoreno's vile and disgusting sexual perversions, "shit and piss" porn, anus fetish, teen porn and much more. Want proof? Have to wait, sir. Sai baba is my Number One priority. :-) Now he is claiming that people from GD and GR are emailing him who know "all about me", lol. This silly fool was mercilessly kicked out of GR three times in a row for stalking me, and plenty of people at GD emailed/PM'ed me about Gerald Homoreno's scandalous and unprovoked attacks against me which he made by e-bombing several members. Want proof? Have to wait sir, Sai Baba is my Number One priority. :-)

Silly little amateur, can't discuss the issues so he makes ad-hominem attacks for a living.

Gerald Moreno is FILTH!

Goodnight, braindead zombies. Watch out for Sai Baba the Bogey Man coming to attack you in the night. :-)

Bill Aitken thinks he is acting all smart when he talks about the "Sai Parampara", when the poor guy doesn't have a clue what it means. LOL. :-))

It should be aptly noted that Sanjay did not deny having a Jesus-Sex-Fetish (when he had every opportunity to do so). Apparently Sanjay's Jesus-Sex-Fetish is still very much alive. Such a disgusting and filthy person, it is unbelievable! Unlike Sanjay, I have proof to back up my accusations against him:
- Proof 01
- Proof 02.

Sanjay, once again, you have no proof about me having "proven perverted sexual fetishes for anuses, faeces and urine...your association with former porn stars who used to make 'shit and piss' movies". You also falsely accused me of making posts on teen porn sites. To date, you have yet to provide any proof, links or posts to support any of your defamatory attacks against me. You are a pathological liar and that is why nobody believes you except other pathological liars (which come a dime a dozen in the Anti-Sai Movement).

Isn't it funny that the entire destruction of my credibility and integrity rests with Sanjay's alleged "coming soon" exposures and he adamantly refuses to divulge his alleged proof against me?

The fact of the matter is that Sanjay is very bitter about my exposures about him (which he challenged me to do, by the way). Now that he has been fully exposed as a dirty, self-rigteous pig, he now tries to do what he does best and rubbish my name with no proof.

Tough luck Sanjay. Your ill-name is spreading like wild-fire. People from GD and GR have emailed me who know all about you and your filth. Not even He-Man can save you now.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

/m747

Lisa, do us all a favour and take your hot air elsewhere. I have had enough of useless carbon dioxide from you. Because you are so unfeasibly unintelligent you don't even know that that zeros don't count, therefore you are 'CO2', Carbon Dioxide, Hot Air. Guff master. :-)

I have never claimed to be white, only that people sometimes take me to be a white person. Even if I did say that, how is it racist? Did you purchase your dictionary yet? Look up the meaning of 'racism'. And I've already told Kristijan and I'm telling you:

Do not clutter up this board with your useless and abusive posts.

If you can't say anything nice, do not say anything at all. Follow the teachings of your faggot guru for Christ's sake, even if you are wrong about him too. LOL.

You are so cowardly that you cannot bring yourself to comment on Sai Baba's SCANDALOUS Shirdi Lies and School Lies. Maybe you are waiting for Homoreno to come up with his "refutation" so that you can regurgitate it everywhere? Tsk..

OK, nothing wrong with positivity. Just as long as we acknowledge the facts too. ;-)

Time will tell if anything more is discovered about Sathya Sai Baba's months (years?) in a cave, and what he was really doing there such as yogic practices to gain a lot of siddhis and whatnot. It is interesting how Swami Bua claims that he taught a teenage Sathya Sai Baba, so we must look into that. :-)

Time will tell if scientific research or a DNA sample from Sai Baba will prove that he is an inbreed through and through. As we all know, incest has very harmful results in that it affects people's minds and physical functions. Last week, I discovered a psychophysical condition that could well explain the way Sai Baba behaves, and further research into this will let me know if this is the breakthrough that I have been looking for. After all, no one can beat science, not even Sai Baba. ;-)

Time will tell if the Shirdi Lies gain serious currency and make some headway into toppling and dismantling Sathya's corrupt power structure when the public come to know of his seedy and sleazy lies. In a statement in Sanathana Sarathi that I (re)discovered just two days ago, I have found a statement by the editor of SS against Saidas Babaji, where he affirms the belief that Sathya is Shirdi reincarnated, all in black-and-white print! Yes, this will come in very good use. Bearing in mind the fact that there is no use in Shirdi Sai Baba being reincarnated as accepted by his apostle Narasimha Swamiji. According to the Swami, Shirdi Sai Baba stated that he would be ever-present at his tomb to guide seekers and evotees which he has been doing as many testify. So what is the use of a successor to continue the Guruparampara and take the Shirdi Gadi? No answer, because Sathya Sai lied to the media about it in 1976. Strange how he has never been to Shirdi, eh? ;-)

Time will tell if the school records are authentic, although there is no reason to doubt their authenticity. Not only are they all in agreement about the 1929 birthdate, but the dates fit very well even into the "official" Sai story except, of course, where "1926" and "1940" are concerned. Just switch 1926 into 1929, and 1940 into 1943 and everything is reconciled perfectly. Sathya Sai Baba is not 80 years old. He is 77. ;-) And you guys just missed the 77th birthday, oops! :-))

Edited by author 10-25-2006 08:41 PM
I dunno, time will tell, i'm just trying to spread
postivity and stuff.
my discovery was that it had recent postings not that it exists.

OK Kristijan, I don't know who Amen is and I'm not sure I want to know. I just found it weird that you have just "discovered" that forum when we were all talking about it last week, posting links to it, etc.

By the way, I am not "Eddie" or Edward. You may also convince yourself of that but it's not my problem. Speaking of which, still no comment from you about Shirdi Lies or School Lies? You recently told usedbybaba that you are not on anybody's "side" and you are just here to find out the "truth", after being acquainted with Sai Baba things in the past as you very much are now. So these things are pertinent for you. How does it feel that everything you've read on Sai Baba so far has been based on a fairy tale?

Edited by author 10-25-2006 08:24 PM
/m739
"Kristian, I believe you are lying. You already know about the existence of that board, having visited it just a few days ago. Now you are convinced that somebody else with an entirely different username is pretending to be you, without at all considering the possibility that some other Croatian people may want to post on discussion boards.

I strongly suggest that you give your crackpot theories a rest, they do no good for you or anybody else. Concentrate on the issues and quit messing about, please."
________________________


No ,Eddie I am certainly not lying.Lying is wrong and i don't do that.
Just few minutes ago after i finished going through all the pages did i discover it was the same topic Amen posted at.
The way i found Amen's post was through Google search of the site few days ago ,but i never checked other pages of that topic until today .I thought only older postings were there i did not know it was a current topic with fresh recent posts.I was on some middle page originally few days ago when I've read Amen's post,that's where Google site search result/link took me to.
I was reminded about that topic Today by clicking on " My Topic" link,it was listed there and i decided to read some of it.It's a mess.

I'm not convinced somebody is pretending to be me,but it's suspicious how out of nowhere this person makes a comment saying "it's me again" when i can't find that person appearing on that topic earlier(with obviously forced bad spelling)and it just happens to be just like me ,except I'm 26 hehe so, he made a mistake.

Oh and i don't read your blog,cause it's time consuming.I sometimes click on the link but i can't force myself to Read anything.It's too much to read,time will tell.


And I'm not fighting with ubb.I'm just asking him a simple question.

Edited by author 10-25-2006 08:13 PM
/m734

"And the priests at the time felt threatened by Him because he was teaching that ALL are God. "I and MY Father are One." "Know ye not that ye are gods?" "Is it not written in the scriptures that ye are gods?" "These things that I have done, ye shall do and even greater things shall ye do because I go unto the Father."

Jesus Christ did not preach nonduality. I have already proven this before about how that is taken way out of context by silly Sai devotees. Similarly, all of the other quotes (especially the second and third ones) are taken out of context. Goes to show how much Lisa De Witt knows about Jesus Christ, even after alleged visitations from him ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And gerald Moreno calls me "sick" when he has nothing to say about Lisa De Witt's confessions to having schizophrenic hallucinations! LOL.

And to prove the point, want me to dig out one of the Sanathana Sarathis I was leafing through just a couple of days ago? Sai baba also says that Jesus never said anything of the sort. :-p

I am so glad that Lisa De Witt has chosen 'CO2000' for her nick. As everyone knows:

CO2 = Carbon Dioxide = Hot Air :-))

We always knew that her wild barking and screaming was just pure guff, and now she tacitly admits it. :-)

Edited by author 10-25-2006 08:10 PM
Trust Lisa De Witt to stick up for a self-exposed racist like Andy Rye. He made open references to Kofi Annan as a "nigger" and made references to America's shameful past of slavery (subjucgating black people), and Lisa De Witt thinks that this is "mimicry".

Lisa De Witt (CO2000) is an exposed racist herself. She made open references to how all Middle-Eastern men should be tied, bound and gagged, which severely offended Afshin Khorramshahgol (a molestée of Sai Baba's who is Middle Eastern). Lisa De Witt is also guilty of supporting the British National Party (BNP), a far-right political party that advocates the deportation of immigrants and who are openly racist. Sound like Nazis to you? They were exposed by the BBC (a famous 'Whistleblower' documentary) and were afterwards accused of bias towards the BNP (ha ha ha ha). Lisa used this "bias" to speak about the BBC's alleged bias towards Sathya Sai Baba, in full support of the BNP!

And there are many more evidences to prove their racism. And before they start whining about how I am apparently a racist, I have already made it known PUBLICLY that I am NOT a racist. My best friend throughout high school was black, and my (past) love for hip-hop is well documented. Gerald 'Liar' Homoreno who is intellectually dishonest ignores all of these facts and deliberately conceals the truth in his mad craze to support Sathya Sai Baba, a widely-accused homosexual paedophile and murderer.

Tough luck Handbag Boy. You a sick psychopathic liar who makes fun of people's disabilities and laughs about it along with your wackadoo "colleagues", who have openly expressed violent intents towards former devotees of SSB. SHAME on you.

/m722 /m735

Awwwwww, wassamatter Homoreno? Nothing better to do while trying very hard to come up with a sound and solid refutation of my Shirdi and School Lies exposés, so you come here to abuse me instead?

Before we talk about who is really sick, why don't we talk about your proven perverted sexual fetishes for anuses, faeces and urine? That too with your association with former porn stars who used to make "shit and piss" movies and who knows what else they do now? That's on top of your proven psychopathic obsession of stalking me all over the Net, trying to track my online history since 1998 or so, and becoming so fascinated by me that you have even started dreaming of me several times as you confessed.

Oh yeah, and didn't you also get kicked out of the same forum three times for stalking me? Tsk tsk..

You are a psychopath and everybody knows it. You are the one who nobody has any regard for. No matter how much and how hard you try, people end up calling you a "f*****g wackjob".

You are very sick. Get help, I mean it, wackadoo. :-)

Gerald Moreno Deception /m269

Edited by author 10-25-2006 07:57 PM
/m733

Kristijan, and that's supposed to prove what, exactly? Are you still propounding the idea that I am Edward? More fool you. Why don't you stop cluttering up this board with useless posts like that with absolutely no proof at all. It's bad enough that we have to deal with maniacs and barking dogs like Homoreno and De Witt, now we have you speculating about people assuming different identities with no proof! Why don't you redeem your existence here by discussing the issues? I'm surprised that you have had virtually nothing to say about the recent Shirdi Lies and School Lies exposés? Instead, you are engaging in a protracted fight with usedbybaba where you are asking the same questions againd and again and again. And just for good measure, again. Do us all a favour and stop cluttering up this board with your friends like you ruined all of the other ones. It's well annoying.

/m736

Kristian, I believe you are lying. You already know about the existence of that board, having visited it just a few days ago. Now you are convinced that somebody else with an entirely different username is pretending to be you, without at all considering the possibility that some other Croatian people may want to post on discussion boards.

I strongly suggest that you give your crackpot theories a rest, they do no good for you or anybody else. Concentrate on the issues and quit messing about, please.

OMG at the Barbara character,wow.

Edited by author 10-25-2006 07:00 PM
i have just discovered there's a different topic about SB on quicktopic
http://www.quicktopic.com/9/H/ehfcBK8qrWRYZ/p274.259
"
hi! me again! I just want to say I did not want anyone to feel hurt, or attact. all this is hard for me to. By the way, Joe 108 says: anonimus ill people. I am just a student from Croatia, 25 old. I will not be sanding any messegas more, I realy need someone sirius,so that I can talk about this. This kind a conversation is not something I am used to. At the end I used to say :sai ram, but now only, bye"
___________________________

WTF is this for real or was someone imitating me.Bwahaha
I'm 26 so that's not me.
LOL,there's so much to read and i don't have the time.
Who are all these ppl; barbara ,sushant???....i never knew there was a parallel topic being discussed along this one.

Edward, "Sai Baba EXPOSED" is Sanjay Kishore Dadlani.

Before you get all comfy and buddy-buddy with him, you should know that Sanjay has a confirmed Jesus-Sex Fetish (Reference). I also have a in-depth article about his public requests for Jesus, Biblical and Disney pornography on Google's Adult Groups. As a matter of fact, Sanjay's posts are still there and can be easily checked by you or anyone at any time: Reference.

This the confirmed pervert who Anti-Sai Activists promote and endorse. And Sanjay's Jesus-Sex Fetish is only the tip of the iceberg. See related articles:

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Edited by author 10-25-2006 03:31 PM
/m727

Why are you making up lies about Baba being convicted of crimes usedbybaba? He hasn't even been CHARGED with ANY crimes much less convicted of any.

Sorry, but Jesus WAS accused of murder. And he was not only accused of being the devil incarnate, he was also accused of using his powers to kill people! He was also accused of associating with sinners such as prostitutes, etc. Shows how little you know about Jesus, usedbybaba.

And why do you think they called Jesus King of the Jews? Because those in power were afraid he would use his powers to "take over the world," or in this case, the Roman Empire. And the priests at the time felt threatened by Him because he was teaching that ALL are God. "I and MY Father are One." "Know ye not that ye are gods?" "Is it not written in the scriptures that ye are gods?" "These things that I have done, ye shall do and even greater things shall ye do because I go unto the Father." Ref.

So usedbybaba FINALLY lets the cat out of the bag and admits he is NOT a Hindu and that he does NOT believe in Avatars. There you go folks. It's what I suspected ALL along. Another Christian bible thumper.

Edited by author 10-25-2006 02:11 PM
H.H. Swami Saiexposedananda has sent you a link to a weblog:
Posted - Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:03 am

11:03 + 3 = 2:03 PM

Hey Edward i see you're posting right now on SSb2,LOL,wow.

Edited by author 10-25-2006 02:02 PM
Edward wow,LOL

Exposed wow, you sure know how to make an entrance! But I find your school topics too highbrow for me because I'm not conversant with the Sai scandals, I'm new to it.

"Jesus was not accused of molesting boys are women. Neither was he convicted for stealing or murder or anything that is related to a normal criminal,but the great baba is and was."

/m727
Baba was convicted??
By whom?

"they're accusations made by individuals against a person who has millions of followers and devotees around the globe."

Even Hitler had followers and he ruled tiil the time he was defeated so does that mean till that time it is right that he Hitler was above the law.Crowds are there for many so called Gurus.Plus there are many who were once close to baba and got away from him Why???
How can I go to court when an ordinary muderer (read Priyadharshini Matoo case) escaped the conviction for more than 10 years and many more cases are pending especially if there is an influential person or his relative is the accused.This is India not U.S.
Believe me Baba would have been arrested, if he had tried the same thing in US.By the way why we do not get Avatars in US or other countries.
These jokers have an answer, that India is the punya bhoomi etc., Convenience. Actually all the African countries need an Avatar (being poor)
Or Western rich countries need an Avatar, but unfortunately the 'AVATAR' is convenient only in India where he can escape the law and share his booty with the Politicians and Police

Well you are right, that jesus was convicted.but Jesus was convicted for his beliefs and his teachings,he was poor, he was changing people from being cheaters in the name of Godunlike baba who is accused of molestation,cheating materialisations and Murders. None of the Avatars killed people except in war. Every Avatar never went against scrutiny and none of them hoarded money for their family. Besides all these he never victimised his own devotees. They did not say their life is their message and go about doing things in the opposite direction. They did not have videos of cheating miracles ofcourse.I have seen it directly. The first time i saw it was when he was giving vibuthi to V.K.Narasimhan in Brindawan,but i was too devoted not to beleive him.

Jesus was not accused of molesting boys are women. Neither was he convicted for stealing or murder or anything that is related to a normal criminal,but the great baba is and was.

Talking of "his life is his message"
Did jesus do things contradictory to his teachings???
Rama never actually declared himself as God. Besides all these avatars are not alive today to actually see, what exactly was the truth.

I repeat ""He says his life is his message" does this Man BaBa Want us to believe that as God he is above scrutiny"
If you talk of jesus talk of those who told us that a guru has to be scrutinised before being accepted and follow it(Sri Yukteshwar Maharaj)
All I expect an Avatar to do is atleast speak the truth,When an ordinay soul like Mahatma Gandhi could do it, why can't an Avatar do it???

Edited by author 10-25-2006 08:17 AM
/m725
ubb,even Jesus was accused,even convicted ,so what's your point?
they're accusations made by individuals against a person who has millions of followers and devotees around the globe.
Have you tried going to court with your accusations of molestation?

Edited by author 10-25-2006 07:48 AM
 usedbybaba "He says his life is his message.-Time and again he has been accused of Cheating ,Molesting, lying, and his materializations are proved fake. Now does this Man Wants us to believe that as God he is above scrutiny"

ANSWER THIS LISA INSTEAD OF ABUSING.JOE KNOWS THAT HE SHOULD KEEP QUITE NOW AND THEN PUT UP A MESSAGE after afew days SAYING "USEDBYBABA EXPOSED" AND THEN QUOTE THE SAME MESSAGE THAT I WROTE IN ANGER.BECAUSE HE CANNOT ANSWER FOR HIS DIVINE MASTERS ANTICS, SO HE JUST WANTS TO DIVERT THE ATTENTION.

Edited by author 10-25-2006 06:48 AM
/m711

Sanjay, you are so dumb! It's obvious Andy was MIMICKING the racists' attitude you idiot. See, this is why it's useless trying to reply to you about SO many things! Because you are SOOOOOOO DUMB things have to be explained to you like you are a five year old!!!! And it happens SOOOOOOO often it's clear that you must be somewhat mentally retarded. No crime except that you are so narcissistic and condescending like you think you are a rocket scientist or something when, in reality, you belong in special ed where you can get the help you so badly need. And speaking of racism. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

If Forrest Gump had an EVIL twisted twin brother, you'd be it.

Edited by author 01-23-2008 04:50 AM
/m717

Sanjay, the only ones who keep revising history are you and your perverted anti-Sai friends whose minds are constantly in the gutter. I've never seen so many wackos who can take the simplest truth and twist it into oblivion and actually do it with a straight face thinking they are SO smart!

Kind of like the
(ir)rationalists who blather about people being gullible then gullibly back accusers who claim Baba's genitalia supernaturally morphed from male to female! Too funny. Talk about being the laughing stalk. You anti-Sais have made such fools of yourselves and with so much anti-Sai stupidity, I KNOW there is more to come...lol.

I love it when a (divine) plan comes together. You know what they say. Man plans and God laughs. Amen.

Sanjay, you are sick. Very sick. You need professional help. Seriously.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Speaking of which, I was doing a little online research on Sri Aurobindo for Part 1 of my School Lies exposé (/m683) and what did I find? Alan Kazlev's views on the birthdate controversy. Funnily enough, I couldn't help smirking at this part:

"When I was still more positive towards SSB, I - trying to present SSB in a positive way - suggested in an email (5 Aug 2005) to Joe Moreno that

    'It may well be that SSB never made this claim; they may have been cooked up by one or more of his enthusiastic followers! This is certainly a very interesting avenue of research, were you interested in exploring it (and you seem to be the sort of guy who would be able to find this out!), and its resolution would certainly clear up the problem of the apparent conflict between SSB and S.A.'

Not surprisingly (by what I know today), Joe wasn't interested in taking up this offer."

Muahahahahahaha! "By what I know today." This is the height of this confused soul called Gerald Moreno; he considers himself an "advocate" of Sathya Sai Baba when he does not believe in him as God (or so he says with his weasel words). This has been refuted by his own confession already. He defends all sorts of outlandish and irrational "miracles" of Sai Baba's such as ressurecting the dead, stopping rain, holy ashes appearing from pictures, and the like, while he does not believe that Sai Baba is God or can perform these miracles. He tries very hard to defend and argue in favour of Sai Baba's philosophical/theological theories when he is an admitted agnostic.

The silly fool is a confused psychopath who laughs at people's disabilities, laughs at people's psychological problems (Barbara), openly embraces abusive and vociferous lying lesbians, drunkards and drug dealers, and is ridiculed all over the place for defending a known homosexual paedophile. He is not interested in any sort of real investigations as suggested above by Kazlev, he is only interested in his tiny and ineffective ad-hominem attacks which make him look even more idiotic than he already is. It's all downhill for Gerald Moreno, chee chee chee...

Edited by author 10-24-2006 11:39 PM
"I am going to blog about the school records when I have time."

You see? Moreno has no respect for the issue which is why he should consider writing a new article (or rewriting his original article) in the light of these new facts on his website. Tough luck, all the three pieces of evidence corroborate each other and fit in very nicely within the active milestones of 1929 and 1943, not 1926 and 1940, LOL.

Poor Moreno, I hope he has a mirror in front of him when he posts his "refutation" blogs, just so he can see the tears roll down his cheeks while I laugh my head off, LOL. :-) Hey jackface, what do you have to say about /m712 , /m713 and /m715? Not that I'm actually interested in your smacked-out opinions, I just need an excuse to laugh while I'm eating my scones! :-)

Edited by author 10-25-2006 12:08 AM
As if anybody cares about the thoroughly uneducated and embarrassing "refutation" of Gerald Moreno, who was so ignorant that he referred to archived webpages (meaning websites/URLs that do not exist) as "proof", what to speak of the fact that he foolishly thought that 8th Standard is equal to First Form, thinking that it meant 1st Standard, LOL. What's wrong Gerald? Why did you cry like a little girl about how expensive LIMF was? And did you cry even more when you learnt that I got it for free? :-)

Keep dreaming, Homoreno. You have no authority on these matters because you are fully ignorant of them. A thoroughly brainwashed believer in Sai Baba like you (as you admitted) cannot be expected to hold a reasonable, rational and sensible discussion about Sai Baba even when all the evidence is presented for everyone to see.

As for the 'Shirdi Lies' exposé, what a laugh! Homoreno's entire rant is all about how I supposedly use LIMF as and when it suits my purposes, using it's new information and discarding the rest as if this is proof of my alleged intellectual dishonesty. I have news for Homoreno: This is not about my use of sources (LIMF), this is about the presentation of new facts about Sai Baba which Homoreno has NEVER addressed (/m715 for an example). Notice how Moreno never addresses the actual points about Sathya Sai Baba's sordid Shirdi history? No, it's all about how I used LIMF, LOL. Talk about avoidance. ;-)

Tough luck you silly little amateur. :-) Stop trying to play with the big boys when you are still in your stripey pyjamas. And by the way, if you're planning on criticising my usage of LIMF again *roll eyes*, save your efforts, I have all of the original literature to back me up on everything an I don't need to use LIMF as such. It's merely convenient to have all the information in one place. :-)

Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is such a whiny crybaby! What's wrong Sanjay? All the girls don't want to hear you whine and moan about your many psychological problems? Or is it than when you speak, you sound like your mouth is full of cotton?

I am going to blog about the school records when I have time. Needless to say, Sanjay is going to be fully exposed and thoroughly embarrassed as he was with the public exposure of his "Sai Baba Shirdi Lies" (which came from those ever-so-honest, accurate, truthful and objective Sai Devotees) :-)

- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 1
- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 2
- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 3

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Good point Lisa, you intellectually dishonest jihadi suicide bomber. Let's not forget that it's the morons in the Sai Organisation who themselves put out the "explanation" that Sai baba's oral sex and anal sex activities are forms of "Kundalini purification".

This has been discussed many times before so stop drooling and repeating yourself and revising history while you're at it. Nice avoidance tactics by the way re: /m715. ;-) Maybe because you have nothing to say in response? That'd be a first! :-)

Edited by author 10-25-2006 05:02 AM
/m709

Good point Angelic, after all usedbybaba is the one who claims he had sex with God because he thought it would "purify him!" Pathetic idiocy. And the dork has the gall to condescend towards others and project his own idiotic beliefs onto them like he is the great know-it-all after he admitted to believing in such idiocy. It never ceases to amaze me how dumb these guys are and how they cannot see how dumb they seem to people who listen to their incessant, neurotic drivel.

Facts

1. Sai Baba spent some time living in solitary confinement in some caves near Puttaparthi. this fact is not recorded in any of the official biographies, except in some throwaway "experience" book by Nagamani Purnaiya.

2. Sai Baba was discovered to be an inbreed. His parents were cousins and this also means that his siblings were inbred too. Sai Baba himself has confirmed this.

3. Sai Baba lied to the media in 1976 when he stated that he was the only person who knew about Shirdi Sai Baba in his area, and that his declaration to be a reincarnation of a saint nobody knew is proof that he is the reincarnation. It has been discovered that there was a strong culture of Shirdi worship in Puttaparthi, whereby the young Sai Baba himself regularly attended Shirdi Sai bhajan sessions and memorised the Sri Sai Satcharita (authorised hagiography of Shirdi Baba). Classmates testify that he worshipped Shirdi Baba, carried his picture in his pocket and was generally a devotee.

4. Sai Baba was born on October 4, 1929, and not November 23, 1926 as traditionally believed. New evidence released for the first time on the Internet prove that, by way of three separate administrative records, Sai Baba's October 1929 birthdate was listed on all three of them. All of the major incidents in the young Baba's life can be perfectly reconciled when you take 1929 and 1943 as the key years as milestones, instead of 1926 and 1940. The whole point of the November 23 birthdate was to hijack Aurobindo's cryptic statement and propagate the inbred teenager as an avatar.

These are all indisputable facts, whether you like them or not. Live with them. :-)

Edited by author 10-24-2006 09:08 PM
/m711
i totally forgot about Edward and his faith in Jesus ...i also haven't noticed Joe posting links on the historicity of Jesus.
Interestingly you know all about it.
Hmmmmm...lol,whateverrrr.

Yeah ,that sounds harsh about Annan,but i think he was speaking figuratively, as if that's what US government thinks ,that's their view on things , how they want to control everyone and everything or something like that.Nevertheless i don't agree with the choice of words.

Bill Aitken is another one of Homoreno's big heroes. I spotted his book in a bookshop a couple of days ago while I was looking for something else. I had originally come across this book in the summer of 2005 in a Sri Lankan bookshop but I didn't bother with it because I thought it was a goofy devotee book.

Looks like I was right. Bill Aitken is such a poor and embarrassing writer that I wonder how he had the guts to stand up and think that his views are actually worthy of consideration? For a start, and even though he admits it, he uses the term "Sai Parampara" loosely to define the three Sai Babas. That's right, he includes Prema Sai in his "analysis", an avatar who hasn't even been born yet and whom nobody knows anything of. This silly fool (Aitken) doesn't even know the meaning of "parampara", which is a succession of gurus! Who needs Sai Baba to misrepresent Hinduism when his devotees do it perfectly by themselves?

I can hardly remember any other of the crap in that book but the one thing I noticed is that he has heavily criticised Kasturi's sloppy style of writing. This is probably the one good thing about his book, that he is honest enough to mention that Kasturi was a myth-maker and a weaver of fairy-tales, shying from mentioning that the Puttaparthi villagers avidly consume meat and drink country liquor among other things. Not to mention leaving out the fact that Sai Baba grew up in politically tense times with threats from Razakars and Naxalites around the place.

And then near the end of the book he comments on the things that Moreno loves most; The Findings and The Murders. The fact is that nobody knows the full truth behind the 1993 murders, least of all Bill Aitken. For all of his supposed three decades with Sai Baba, Aitken doesn't seem to know much and is overall recycling the same old crap while trying very hard to sound reasonable, rational and logical. But I think I'll go ahead and quote at least one of his major points on Kasturi. :-)

And while I notice that Gerald Homoreno is suddenly quiet because he is busy thinking up stupid ways to "refute" my recent and devastating School Lies exposé (/m683), I was looking through some of my old Sanathana Sarathis earlier and I found a lot of seriously damning stuff.

So Sai Baba says that his mother still comes to visit him in a physical body? :-) Not to mention the fact that Sai Baba has a minimum (maximum?!) of three young male students sleeping with him in his room every night?

Tsk tsk tsk... And yeah, a full confirmation of Sai Baba's incestuous birth directly from the man himself. In a discourse he mentioned that "Kondama Raju and Subba Raju were brothers", meaning that their children (Pedda Venkappa and Easwaramma) were cousins! Sai Baba himself confirmed his incestuous birth.

And oh dear me! He confessed that, as a youth, he used to take the village children to the Chitravathi river bed almost daily. I wonder what he did there? Wink wink, nudge nudge.

Re /m708: "and yeah i think you posted under those user names,for various reasons,also it's funny how they stopped posting all of a sudden. They kept praising the BBC documentary just like you do all the time,even now. Do what you want i just don't see the point in making stuff up and hiding."

Kristijan, do you really think Edward would want to stick around after receiving such an unmitigated tongue-lashing from a sleazy piece of slime like Gerald Moreno? I don't believe that anyone in their right mind would want to hang around in the same company as Morono and De Witt, the only reason I am here is to post my exposés and have a laugh. Moreno is so vicious and evil that he tried to break Edward's faith in Jesus Christ by posting links on the historicity of Jesus. Funny how you have nothing to say about that kind of behaviour. As for the BBC programme, it has been seen by many thousands (millions?) of people and has been broadcast in several countries, so of course many people's opinions on Sai Baba can be formed by the BBC documentary. What's so strange about that? I think it's good that Moreno's lies about it are finally exposed, especially since he knows nothing about it.

You can believe whatever you like (about my alleged "hiding") but you also have to recognise that you have a bad record at trying to discover people's identities. I have no need to post under different IDs here as I'm fine with this one. Funny how you never suspected Moreno of "conversing with himself" when he could have been posting anonymously too, if only to give publicity to his webpage like he always does.

"As far as Alaya goes,what did he say i can't remember exactly. Something like Alaya was eager to see SB at the time of abuse and said S*it i hope swami calls me or something,he said he thinks A. isn't truthful or something .He just said it was weird that he was eager to see his abuser. Anyway what did he say,how is he racist?"

This is the exact comment from the SSBDC, being enraged about how Shashi Tharoor didn't get the UN Sec-Gen job:

"yeah, what about the christians???
they're the ones who done the most atrocities....sure
swami cant beat that! can he?
Kofi Annan is a nigger, so he he harmless and we can
make him our puppet just like we did to our slaves
down south. sashi tharoor is,nt going to take american
bs, so we can say he's going to be biast.
Vey nice.
And as far as things have transpired over the past 5
years (Iraq,Afghanistan) The UN has been absolutly
ineffective"

So I don't care what he has to say about Alaya Rahm. Followimg Moreno's standards, anyobody who can speak such horrible racist views is not a good character and his testimony is unacceptable. Nice to know that Sai Baba has some racist devotees though. Brings a whole new twist to the "racist white supremacist smear campaign", doesn't it? ;-)

Edited by author 01-23-2008 04:45 AM
Usedbybaba, you need to get off of the drugs or whatever it is you are on. You are not even making sense. All you do is play childish mind games and I'm not going to play them with you. You seem to think you are the religious thought police or something. If you had lived in the ashram, like you claim, you wouldn't be asking all the stupid questions you are asking about God in relationship to Hinduism because you would know the answers. You remind me of a rapist who just cannot take "NO" for an answer. What part of "NO," I am not going to play your mind games," do you not understand?

How can I make it ANY clearer to you that I think YOU are the fraud and the liar? I think it is so funny that you are SO arrogant that you think you know more than anyone else about God. Where are all your followers bozo?

One thing I know, Baba is NOT arrogant and self-centered like you are. He would NEVER impose himself on others the way you seem to think you have the right to.

"He is either a fraud or Avatar. So how can you give contradictory statements.What do you do with an Avatar(someone whom you have experienced OTHERWISE)if you don't worship? "

what do you do?
why would you worship a person or a form,that's kinda idiotic,all is one ,get it,God is all,so what's the point in worshiping anyone.

Anyway,ubb,can you pleaseeeeeeee,
tell me what you did in Parthi for MORE then 15 years?
were you there despite your abuse?
why so long?
why didn't you run away form there immediately,why did you stay there for "MORE then 15 years"?

Edited by author 10-24-2006 11:19 AM
"Kristijan, of all the things I've heard you say, that is definitely one of the silliest. I don't know how you can say that three people can all be the same and that it is "obvious" with furnishing any sort of proof, not to mention trying to connect it to me. I'd ask for proof but I am 100% sure that you don't have any. I can't believe you'd make ridiculous suggestions that I would pretend to be other people. "What's the point?" Correct, there's no point.

Funny how you didn't notice that Gerald Moreno was talking to Edward at exactly the same time, but I don't see you accusing him of pretending to have conversations with himself as Edward or Jsephine Kabutla. And by the way, why would I come on as Somasundaram to promote a site about Ramanuja? You have an appallingly bad record at trying to figure out who is who. You recently accused Usedbybaba of being a woman. Even after I pointed out to you that the "woman's" post was written in 2005, you still believed that he had written in 2005. Only when you went and saw the evidence for yourself did you take back your words. So please, unless you have some hot-shot proof don't connect me to your ideas about different identities."
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well i admitted i was wrong,but the perverted style is similar so it's no wonder i confused them,if that even is the case.It could theoretically be the same person.

and yeah i think you posted under those user names,for various reasons,also it's funny how they stopped posting all of a sudden.
They kept praising the BBC documentary just like you do all the time,even now.
Do what you want i just don't see the point in making stuff up and hiding.







"And I might as well mention, your great hero Andy Rye has exposed himself as a racist. So bang goes all of his opinions about Alaya Rahm, he is no longer a credible witness. :-)"
___________

As far as Alaya goes,what did he say i can't remember exactly.
Something like Alaya was eager to see SB at the time of abuse and said S*it i hope swami calls me or something,he said he thinks A. isn't truthful or something .He just said it was weird that he was eager to see his abuser.
Anyway what did he say,how is he racist?

Edited by author 10-24-2006 10:35 AM
I know what Lisa will say

:You bozo used buddy.nobody needs your drunken whining ...and can you read my lips Nobody believes you.....
that is why i say I (usedbybaba) pray for you.God bless you

Lisa and Joe ,I really wonder how you can make innocent people go to a cheat.If you doit without your knowledge it is fine but... What to say?

How can you sleep well in the night. Especially you joe. May God Bless you both. I mean it. You really need an Avatar to reedem you.

Lisa"I NEVER said I worshiped Baba (I do NOT worship form of ANY kind)."

Lisa again says "I'm NOT going to argue with you over your beliefs about Baba. .....prove he is a fraud, address them in a court room. I (and others) have experienced OTHERWISE."

He is either a fraud or Avatar. So how can you give contradictory statements.What do you do with an Avatar(someone whom you have experienced OTHERWISE)if you don't worship?
I am surprised that even you can be so funny.Ha Ha Ha ha

Edited by author 10-24-2006 08:25 AM
Usedbybaba, I'm NOT going to argue with you over your beliefs about Baba. If you have questions about his validity and can prove he is a fraud, address them in a court room. I (and others) have experienced OTHERWISE and I'm tired of listening to your childish drivel. I don't owe you squat. Go talk to your family and brow beat them if you are so mad. They're the ones who took you to Sai Baba. Got it bozo?

I've explained my position VERY clearly and if you don't get it by now you never will.

Edited by author 10-24-2006 08:14 AM
Usedbybaba, whether you realize it or not you a babbling like a drunk. You are impossible to carry on a conversation with because your thinking is so disjointed it is ridiculous. Why do you think it is perfectly ok for you to criticise Baba and everyone else ad infinitum, but think you are immune to criticism? You seem to get alot of mileage out of brow beating and guilt tripping people. When are you going to realize your usual head games aren't working here? You act like an only child who is spoiled and used to getting his way all the time and when he doesn't he whines incessantly. Read my lips used buddy: IT'S NOT WORKING! I'm totally BORED with your childish mind games and obvious avoidance tactics as I'm sure everyone else must be by now. You are unbelievably childish and lacking any credibility with your idiotic diatribes and gossip.
And Barbara is a mental case just like YOU. I saw her filthy, demented lies on the other site.
If you think weirdos like her are helping your cause you need more help than she does! Pathetic. Now get outta my face ya con artist. I'm tired of your childish drama.

LISA WHEN DID YOU ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS????????


Why sai baba is not GOD?

1.He started his so called mission by “materializations”
   Which has turned out to be pure cheating. What is the proof that he is cheating? –
. of course videos. So using Materializations to prove his Divinity is out of the .
   Question.
2. He says his life is his message.-Time and again he has been accused of Cheating ,
    Molesting, lying, and his materializations are proved fake. Now does this Man
   Wants us to believe that as God he is above scrutiny .
   With his life being his message, should he not be open to scrutiny. Does he mean
    that anyone , including criminals ,should follow his ‘message ‘ and refuse to be
    questioned. An accused rapist should go scot free, if he has connections and as a follower of the ‘divine’ Avatar should be above scrutiny. After all his life is his message, is it not..
Should he not come out in the open about the June 3rd murders and set an example to others –after all his “life is his message”.
3. Should he not clarify why there are so many contradictions in his “life History” including his date of birth.
4.If his “life is his message”. Should he not tell the world how his brother’s family became so rich. Did he work in some IT company and give all the money to them.
5.Why is there a long chain of stores inside the ashram, Is God teaching business.?
    Of course , they get tax exemption. Then why are the goods as costly as you find it in other places.(do you know that part of this money is directly given to baba for his use)
All his so called Physical activities are ungodly activities, so does he want us to follow the LORD and make sure we also get away from the law ,unquestioned.

With no proof of extraordinary powers , He has only proved that he is a normal human being and a cheat.(If he is God then he is not proving it in his daily activities ,except proving otherwise.)
Now his so called omnipresence has not been proved to many of the devotees (who still come to him for his materializations and assumed good teachings.)
Those who claim to have experienced his grace are two kinds
1.When they prayed he has helped them.-My answer to this is—God responds when you pray to him in any form. Is it not a fact that God responds to Hindus, Christians and Muslims alike. Thou they pray to different Gods. He would respond even if you sincerely pray to a Car or tree. Because the divine power that is responding is inside us and once we have faith in anything that we worship ,miracles will happen. So why do we need to ‘donate’ this power to the so called Avatar and allow him to exploit us.
There are Billions of non devotees and anti babas who do not have the need to have him as their guide. Are they not living as happily as the so called devotees. It is the devotees who suffer, because they .cannot listen to their conscience but have to listen to their so called guru, who is expecting them to swallow any nonsense, including molestation and murder. Do we need such a God. There was a student who knew everything about baba .Though he knew baba was not divine, he prayed to baba’s form.. He told me, he is so used to it and he is not able to change himself.
I have also talked to people who say that they pray to their dead Grand fathesr or grand mothers. If it works for them do we say these dead people are God (some of these grand fathers and mothers would have themselves suffered a lot in life and maybe died of Cancer or some other disease. Then can we also worship them??

There are other devotees who say ,he showed his omnipresence, by telling them something only they know. My point is, many of these are tricks. For eg., he told a Professor that his right eye was more damaged than his left eye. The Prof. was so happy about it. The only lacuna is ,he wore a very thick glass on his right eye compared to his left .
There are times we also come across people who are naturally intuitive and are clairvoyants. We also get it sometimes. then Can we declare all these people as Gods.
THINK, BUDDIES THINK BEFORE YOU SACRIFICE YOUR LIFE FOR ANY JOKER. Edit
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Edited by author 10-24-2006 07:51 AM
 Barbara asks "Many of the poorest were truly God’s worthy people too. Why doesn’t Baba “materialize” gold, heal the sick and quit picking on poor people? Why doesn’t he walk the streets, touching and healing the most wretched diseases? Why doesn’t he allow them into his home? Why only the rich and impressive? How about those lavish meals for his “important” guests, he says he doesn’t ever partake of? Oh no, he doesn’t give himself anything!! What a disgusting liar. Why would he allow murders in his own ashram, i.e. “bedroom”? Were they there to kill him? If he didn’t do it, then as our Big Holy Creator, he knows who did, right? Why not have the guilty brought to trial? He’s in charge of the “courtrooms”, crooked lawyers, certain evil judges, rigged courtroom procedures, illegal tampering, “fixed” trials, and paid-off jury members, isn’t he? The police he pays are temporarily bound to him… but not for long, and he knows that. They will talk soon enough. That’s why his legs are totally without “power” i.e., life-force, aka Kundalini. Damn fool. Questions are endless for the mind that questions and thinks, really things."

Edited by author 10-24-2006 07:42 AM
you say No one has come up with the jeweller's name and I tell you that his name is Aswathnarayana.You immediately call me names along with joe.
You say I don't know Indian Philosophy and say that every one is God When i ask you whether everyone including a criminal can be worshipped.You ignore the logic and call me lier etc.directly jump to something else.

You say take the "so-called evidence to the police or court to prove their
allegations.I retort by saying that none of these can be proved and in India it is all the more difficult with politicians supporting baba.

Instead I ask you to talk about what is logically provable ie., His claims that his life is his message and what you and Joe do ignore all that and call me names or quote from my previous message where i had lost my temper.How does me calling anyone names prove things for or against baba.Tell me.
As far as my family goes they were fooled by baba like many others.
According to you Killers and murderers are never wrong, only the victims are wrong. What can I say to such a thinking.

Where is an answer to my question "Is baba worth being followed"
"My life is my message" - how about the murders can he runout without answering the questions that the Press ask??
Calling me Bozo, Lier,Drunkerd is not the answer.
I have learnt lesson .It is said if you don't accept someones' abuse it goes back to him. I send it back to you multifold.

Edited by author 10-24-2006 04:44 AM
Oh, and abusedbybaba, why aren't you asking your family to answer your questions about Sai Baba if you are so "angry" about it? After all, they are the ones who took you to him to begin with so why aren't you holding them responsible? I have nothing to do with your anger. This is just another thing that tells me you are a LIAR. You are not acting like a sex abuse victim would act as far as I am concerned. Your supposed anger is directed at all the wrong people. You have shown absolutely NO anger toward your family who are responsible for taking you to Sai Baba in the first place. Instead you are abusing people who live thousands of miles away and have nothing to do with your situation. If anyone is responsible for stopping Sai Baba IF he were a sexual predator, it's YOU since you claim to know so much about it, yet you are trying to throw the burden and blame on others who know no such thing. And this is ANOTHER thing that makes me think you are lying.

Edited by author 10-24-2006 03:09 AM
/m678

Usedbybaba how come you keep lying and saying that we haven't answered your questions when we have done so MANY times? Are you illiterate or are you too drunk like Sanjay to actually make sense? If you make stupid statements, like you so OFTEN do, you can be sure I will call you on them. If you can't handle higher standards regarding ethics, law and just PLAIN common sense, go play with your new found abusive and sadistic friend Sanjay somewhere else. I dont hear you complaining about Sanjay's attrocious and sociopathic behavior, hypocrite! Maybe because it sounds so much like you when your true self comes out of the closet. Not only are you abusive, you are also very manipulative, deceptive and IMMATURE!!!!

Funny that you think your continuous mind games are getting you anywhere. I've never seen such a cowardly excuse for a "man."
What a whiner. You and Sanjay are PERFECT for each other.

Edited by author 09-29-2009 06:27 PM
/m680

Sanjay, one can see that your homeschooling taught you very little about Hinduism or manners!

See: Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

Edited by author 10-24-2006 08:55 PM
And because of Seshama Raju's frequent transferrals, Raju was out of school for upto 2 months at a time. During this time he would be overworked as a slave, beaten badly by his sister-in-law for no reason at all, and just generally suffer all sorts of physical, emotional and verbal abuse.

Now wonder the guy got so screwed up that he takes out his frustration on screwing little kids trying to recapture the childhood he lost. He's exactly the type of person you'd feel sorry for if he didn't screw kids for fun.

And let's not forget the fact that - as far as the records can be deciphered - the Uravakonda record's birthdate was changed from 1939 to 1929 in 1976! If that is true (judging from the deciphering) then how could Sai Baba's birthdate be corrected in 1976, when he was already "established" as a full-fledged avatar and had just celebrated his 50th birthday the previous year?

LOL

/m689

"It is also apparent that the inaccurate birthdate was copied to other school records from a primary one."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, Moreno's argument is changing with the wind! Stop talking bullshit, Moreno, LOL! The earliest (English) record is the Kamalapuram transfer form, which has the same birthdate as the Bukkapatnam record. Whaddya know? The same birthdate occurs in the Uravakonda school records. And Moreno wants us to think that these records were copied from each other at a time when it was very difficult to travel by bullock cart, let alone by foot.

Stop talking bullshit and stop trying to play with the big boys you silly little amateur. Get lost when the men are talking, LOL.

Homoreno, give it up/ :-) I'm not interested in discussing this topic with an ignorant bozo like you. :-) You do not even know the basic details about Indian education, which leads you to make wild conclusions that would make any Indian laugh. I should know, because I've refuted all your "objections" and been getting some good feedback from Indian readers. Did you know that readers from India are the second largest readers of my blog, the first being USA? LOL. :-)

Keep humiliating yourself by talking about how great/bad LIMF is. I've also mentioned the way you cried like a little girl about how expensive it was. :-) Give it up. Sai Baba was born in 1929. Plenty of evidence makes it sensible. It's all over. First Sai Baba lived in caves, then Sai Baba was inbred, then Sai Baba lied about Shirdi reincarnations, and now his birthdate has been exposed as a lie after six entire decades. :-)

Homoreno, you're so thick that you don't even know that 8th Standard is "Form One", that is why in the Bukkapatnam school record, Raju is listed as being admitted into the 8th Stndard and all the other kids ar ein Form One. It's the same. LOL, Thickhead. :-)

re /m688

Now Sanjay is bashing the "devotee editors" of LIMF! lol

What did I tell you? Sanjay bashes / accepts LIMF according to whatever whim he decides to take flight on. One word: Hypocrite.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Edited by author 10-24-2006 01:57 AM
Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is "thick".

IF Talipineni Kesappa has been "discredited", then this is proof that LIMF relied on faulty, inaccurate and unreliable information. Therefore, Sanjay's "Sai Baba Shirdi Lies" is all based on faulty, inaccurate and unreliable information.

It is also apparent that the inaccurate birthdate was copied to other school records from a primary one. Once again, this info is taken from LIMF that Sanjay formerly argued was reliable, accurate, objective and truthful. Now, however, Sanjay is saying that when it comes to information that disputes his "proof", LIMF is NOT reliable, accurate, objective and truthful. Sanjay is a self-serving hypocrite.

Gee Sanjay, you are such a flip-flopper. But then again, what to expect from a fully exposed pervert, drunk, racist, misogynist and pathological liar such as yourself? Nothing you say is reliable. Not even one word.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

"The devotee editors of LIMF attempt to present an unconvincing argument to explain away the glaring date discrepancy by referring to the allegedly relaxed recording of census information in pre-Independence India and why dates and birth registrations were carried out much later after the fact. This conflicts with their earlier insinuation that Raju's family deliberately engaged in deception in order to facilitate his so-called career prospects by making him appear younger. Of course nobody would begrudge any parents their ambitions for their children, and indeed it is related that Raju's parents wished for him to be highly educated so that he could attain a prestigious job working for local government. This argument flies right out of the window when you consider that changing the birth year to 1929 (supposedly three years "younger" than his "original" year of 1926) did him a disservice after all; both the Bukkapatnam and Uravakonda records show that most of Raju's classmates were born in the early to mid-1930s. If the family were deliberately trying to fix his date, they should have thought about bringing it forward into the early 1930s so that Raju could be on a par with his own classmates, putting aside the possibility that their birthdates were faked too. With their "faked" date of 1929, they ended up making Raju look like one of the older children!" - Source

LOL. :-)

Edited by author 10-24-2006 01:48 AM
It's official.

Gerald Moreno is THICK.

He keeps on citing his "Talipineni Kesappa" quote which has already been discredited in the back archives of this forum (check them out).

Three independent pieces of evidence list Sai Baba's DOB as 4.10.1929, even spelling it out for those who are thick. :-) The 1939 birthdate is obviously an error which was corrected. Erlendur Haraldsson (one of Moreno's big heroes) himself wrote of a discrepancy, stating that either Kasturi got the date wrong or Sai Baba was 13 years old at the time of the declaration. It doesn't matter, because Sai baba was 14 years old (as biographers say) in 1943, meaning he was born in 1929. Simple mathematics. :-)

Plenty of other evidences have proved the 1929 birthdate. LIMF's "reason" is bullshit, and they have made many more bullshit explanations, all of which have been discussed and dismissed in my exposé series. I personally do not care, it is a problem for devotees not for me. LOL.

No more arguments.

Sathya Sai Baba was born on

October 4th 1929. :-)

LIMF also gave a reason for the birthdate discrepancy. Since Sanjay accepts the authors of LIMF as being reliable, accurate, objective and truthful people, then the following comment must also be accepted on the authority of the authors of LIMF:

"Sathya's date of birth in school records, however, is recorded as the 4th of October 1929 - and not the traditionally recognized date of the 23rd of November 1926. Talipineni Kesappa, son of Talipineni Ramappa maintains that Sathya was one year senior to him at school; therefore, Kesappa's date of birth being 11th of June 1927, Sathya's year of birth definitely is 1926. It has long been a practice in the schools to record a date of birth as being much later than the 'actual' date of birth - in order to facilitate career prospects. Sathya's parents wanted Sathya to become an educated officer. This, possibly could be the reason for the discrepancy. In addition, in 1926, people in remote villages like Puttaparthi, in pre-independent India, were not very particular about dates and birth registration was done much later." (Reference)

The school records are inaccurate and one of the records even stated that Baba was born in 1939. lol Sanjay cannot definitively conclude anything but his speculation. Period.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Too Funny.

Once Again: It is nothing less than hypocritical that Sanjay is still citing LIMF as a reliable, honest, objective and accurate book relating to information about Sathya Sai Baba. The implications of Sanjay's acceptance of LIMF (of course) is that the astounding paranormal and psychic phenomena attributed to Sathya Sai Baba in LIMF is similarly reliable, honest, objective and accurate.

Don't you agree Sanjay? Oh wait. You already agreed with me since you keep citing LIMF as a reliable, honest, objective and accurate book. Speaks volumes about the reliability, honesty, objectivity and accuracy of Sai Devotees. Thank you Sanjay!

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Notice how all of those posts were made on October 20th, 2006, the so-called "Avatar Day" celebrated internationally throughout the Sai Organisation as the date when Raju left home and became a full-time avatar.

Final editing was done on October 21st, 2006, which was the date of the Diwali festival. :-)

Hope you had a good Diwali, Baba! :-)

Edited by author 10-24-2006 12:40 AM
A Full Exposure of Sathya Sai Baba's date of birth and related issues and featuring never before released evidence of the Baba's school records. Complete re-evaluation of the facts in the light of new research that blows apart unquestioned and accepted histories related to the birth and school education of Sathyanarayana Raju aka Sathya Sai Baba.


A New Light - | Introduction | Bukkapatnam school record discussion | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1929 | Discussion of Sri Aurobindo's cryptic remark | Aurobindo hijacked by Sai colluders | Gerald Moreno's criticisms ridiculed |


A New Light 2 - | Criticisms continued | Inconsistent entries on Bukkapatnam record | Bukkapatnam record is not fraudulent | Apologetic explanations for 1929 birthdate | Passports are not evidence of true birthdates | Explanation for Bukkapatnam inconsistent entries | 8th Standard is equal to 'Form One' | Indian education dissimilar to Western education |


A New Light 3 - | Actual sequence of Raju's education different from 'official' sources | Seshama Raju's frequent job transfers | First-time release of Kamalapuram transfer record | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1929 (spelled out) | Transfer form filed after the fact | Raju transferred to Uravakonda | First-time release of Uravakonda school record | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1939 (later corrected year to 1929) | Existence of all three independent evidences confirms 1929 birthdate |


A New Light 4 - | Recap of topic | Recap of apologetic explanations | Facilitation of Raju's career prospects is laughable | Vijayamma Hemchand appears to confirm 1929 birthdate | Problematic 'Declaration' date resolved with 1929 birthdate | First November 23rd Birthday celebration in 1950 | Discussion in light of Shirdi Lies | 1926 and 1940 dates declared an impossibility | Kasturi's sloppy research | Consideration of correct 'Avatar' birthday | Decades of systematic deception | Conclusion |

No more arguments.

Sathya Sai Baba was born on

October 4th 1929.

Apparently Gerald Homoreno has nothing to answer except to claim that I am drunk, in a bid to run away from the hard questions. :-)

Tough luck handbag, your lies about media bias are fully exposed. Boo hoo indeed. Look at a picture of an ocean and cry, pinkdoll, LOL. :-)

Gerald Moreno Deception /m269

Edited by author 10-24-2006 12:09 AM
Apparently Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is posting while he is drunk again.

Poor Sanjay. Looking for some negative interaction with others because no one wants to listen to you in real life. Boo hoo.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Lisa De Witt (/m671): "I NEVER said I worshiped Baba (I do NOT worship form of ANY kind)."

In that case, I'm sure you won't mind if I mention that Sai Baba is an aging, graying, balding, paralytic limp-wristed homosexual kiddie-rapist. He has a hairstyle that went out in the 1970s, he wears the same clothes every day, he gets pushed around in a wheelchair and he has rotten teeth. The guy is so damn ugly that he send shivers up people's spines when he smiles at them with his sex-hungry eyes, for Christ's sake he has a unibrow and a double chin! "God" sure is good-looking , eh? Maybe he could live in a house of mirrors if he didn't crack them all every time he smiled.

But all of this stuff shouldn't bother you bcause you don't care about form, right? :-)

And by the way, what kind of a thick and deceitful copycat are you, stealing my comments from sathyasaibaba2 and using them against usedbybaba? You have a proven history of having no original thoughts of your own, and this is just the very latest example. You are in a minority, the world does not agree with your views about Sai Baba.

And I'm glad you made that crazy comment (/m673) because it helped me to consider what a useless self-appointed jihadi Sai defender you are NOT. :-) Get a life you crazy schizo. Jesus hates you.

Edited by author 10-23-2006 11:35 PM
Gerald 'Joe' (Ho)Moreno keeps on attempting to show how the BBC worked hand-in-hand with former devotees of Sathya Sai Baba in order to present a biased documentary. If he is so concerned then why doesn't he file a complaint with OFCOM or some other independent agency?

In the meantime, here is the TRUTH behind Moreno's lies:

Gerald Moreno's Media Bias Lies :-)

Bite that.

Lisa if your joe is so clear why is that you both don't answer my question on baba, but just abuse to get away. All you both do is call people namems and when we abuse you use it to answer any sensible question.THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Joe108 "You are unbelievable and no one believes you".

I repeat.

Then why are you bothered, your avatar is not harmed atall.Then allow us to write what we write instead of abusing us. Why did you create a web site if you know that nobody is going to believe us Anti sais. Scared is it? Fear that your baba wiil be exposed.By the way Babais already exposed and we are just making sure that everyone knows about it. Edit
Delete

Edited by author 10-23-2006 11:30 PM
/m644

Oh my God, Gerald Homoreno sure makes me laugh!

"Josephine, then you are trusting a broadcasting company that Anti-Sai Activists openly claimed were sympathetic and favorable to their cause. Many Anti-Sai Activists boasted on how they worked with the BBC."

Is Moreno THICK or something?

Why wouldn't the BBC work with former devotees of Sathya Sai Baba to produce their documentary, in order to provide a balanced picture of the man and to prevent it from becoming a total one-sided devotional affair? Moreno would love to erase the controversies and pretend that they never existed, when the sad fact is that they are hear to stay. Respected academics around the world are now sitting up and paying attention now that the homosexual paedophilia allegations have entered the mainstream consciousness. For the love of God, it is even mentioned in college textbooks! :-)

This doesn't make the BBC "biased or sympathetic" towards a cause, faggotface, it means that they have an obligation to research both sides of the same coin. Sai devotees (like Moreno) are just bitter about the fact that they thought a world-renowned broadcaster like the BBC were making a documentary to glorify Sai Baba. Little did they know that the finished product would shock them out of their cocoons and face up to a long overdue reality check. I know, I was there. :-)

"The BBC.co.uk should not be confused with BBC News (which is a world famous news broadcasting company). The BBC.co.uk has been repeatedly accused of bias and they air exclusively in the UK."

Looks like Moreno is losing his marbles. "BBC.co.uk" is a website that "airs" all over the world, moron, not just the UK. Ever heard of the Internet? LOL. If Jackass Moreno wants to talk about websites, then take a look at the official BBC page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/3791921.stm. Notice how the URL is "news.bbc.co.uk" which is a "famous news broadcasting company" according to Moronic Moreno. LOL. What kind of ridiculous silly argument is this?

BBC IS BBC, there is no "this BBC" or "that BBC", idiot. LOL. What an idiotic argument. Sheesh that made me laugh!

As for the BBC's being accused of bias, that all depends if there is merit to the complaint. Complaints are adjudicated by an independent watchdog which also adjudicated complaints about the "Secret Swami" documentary. All of the complaints came to nought. :-) The Independent watchdog (OFCOM) adjudicated in favour of the BBC and there were no findings of bias. Tough luck Homoreno! If Moreno is really concerned about this, then I wonder why he doesn't mention anything about Lisa's accusations of BBC bias in the case of their scandalous exposure of the British National Party (BNP), a far-right political party that is condemned (with good reason) for their racist views against immigrants and "foreigners" in general, exposing her as a proven racist! LOL.

"In the case of Sathya Sai Baba, the BBC's bias is apparent because Anti-Sai Activist's themselves claimed the BBC was biased in their favor!"

They claimed no such thing!

"This one page does not deal with numerous other claims (from Anti-Sai's) who claimed they were working closely with the BBC during its production."

Again, it is plainly obvious to anyone with a brain that a news/journalistic media agency like the BBC (which has a good reputation worldwide for a reason) has the obligation to investigate both sides of the story. Therefore, why would they not discuss with former devotees? I was one of them. Again I say: Sai devotees (like Moreno) are just bitter about the fact that they thought a world-renowned broadcaster like the BBC were making a documentary to glorify Sai Baba. Little did they know that the finished product would shock them out of their cocoons and face up to a long overdue reality check. I know, I was there. :-)

Edited by author 10-23-2006 11:08 PM
Homoreno, are you thick or something? You keep on drooling spittle from the sides of your mouth as you repeatedly keep on asking Edward the same questions over and over again when he himself has said that he has no knowledge of these issues beyond what he has read on the Net.

Get it into your thick head: Not everybody believes in Sai Baba or agrees that he is a saint. Furthermore, people have the right to say whatever they want. And what's your damn problem if Edward is a devout Christian (as he appears to be)? Only you with your silly psychoapthic ideas about Christian conspiracies can think that Edward is a serious threat to the Sai Organisation, he is just a guy with an opinion. Moron. And only an evil pervert like you could try to harm his faith by posting links against the historicity of Jesus Christ. You are a malicious and spiteful toad.

Do NOT go around bullying people and acting as if this is your forum, or I'll kick you in the face with your own proven sleaze and hypocrisy. Got it?

/m650

Kristijan, of all the things I've heard you say, that is definitely one of the silliest. I don't know how you can say that three people can all be the same and that it is "obvious" with furnishing any sort of proof, not to mention trying to connect it to me. I'd ask for proof but I am 100% sure that you don't have any. I can't believe you'd make ridiculous suggestions that I would pretend to be other people. "What's the point?" Correct, there's no point.

Funny how you didn't notice that Gerald Moreno was talking to Edward at exactly the same time, but I don't see you accusing him of pretending to have conversations with himself as Edward or Jsephine Kabutla. And by the way, why would I come on as Somasundaram to promote a site about Ramanuja? You have an appallingly bad record at trying to figure out who is who. You recently accused Usedbybaba of being a woman. Even after I pointed out to you that the "woman's" post was written in 2005, you still believed that he had written in 2005. Only when you went and saw the evidence for yourself did you take back your words. So please, unless you have some hot-shot proof don't connect me to your ideas about different identities.

And I might as well mention, your great hero Andy Rye has exposed himself as a racist. So bang goes all of his opinions about Alaya Rahm, he is no longer a credible witness. :-)

Edited by author 10-23-2006 07:26 AM
/m658

Usedbybaba, it doesn't matter what anyone (including YOU) "believes" about Sai Baba. You bozos are making criminal allegations regarding fraud and sexual abuse which MUST be proven in a court room with EVIDENCE, not accusations and GOSSIP, which seem to be your primary weapons of choice! No other religion or religious figure has to "prove" their leader has miraculous powers or authority so you cannot "target" Sai Baba like the rationalists and atheists do just because you don't like him or believe in him. Are you smart enough to understand this or do I have to spell it out more clearly?

Targeting religious figures for personal gain like the atheists are doing, is one of the most unethical and underhanded maneuvers I've EVER seen in my life.

Edited by author 10-23-2006 07:22 AM
/m664

If Baba has been exposed and everyone "knows" about it, then how come the legal system doesn't know about it DUMBO? And how come you are too cowardly to prove it in court? From what I can see the only ones who are being exposed are you dummies and anyone else stupid enough to listen to you and your idiotic logic and lies. You keep forgetting YOU are in the minority. There are only about one hundred wackos like you who think you are the great leaders and everyone else is ignorant (even though you can't even spell or speak english correctly...I hope your skills are better in whatever your mother language is...I doubt it is Telugu as you don't seem to understand Sai Baba at all).

Not to mention how idiotic your logic is. According to you, the "great brain," if Baba is the Avatar we should just let you continue to abuse Him by lying because it can't hurt Him! You seem to be totally self-centered and insensitive and forget that you are hurting a lot of people with your abuse but you think it ok for you to abuse and you just admitted that you think it is ok! And apparently you don't believe in karma either OR you would certainly fear its repercussions.

Joe started his site because he saw, as I did through my research, the volumnous lies that are being told, the racism and religious intolerance that is backing those lies and decided to DO something about it. After all, pretty much EVERYONE knows what happened to Jesus when no one stood up to his accusers. NEVER AGAIN!!!! Over my dead body!

/m670

It's exactly comments like these which make you appear even more idiotic and uneducated (besides your incessant incoherent rambling), usedbybaba. Funny that you are treating everyone as a criminal when you can't even prove there was a crime!

You bozos claim you want people to investigate and when they do then you play all kinds of headgames like this. Part of an investigation entails proving whether you, the accuser, are actually telling the truth but you appear to be too DUMB to understand that. No SANE person makes such judgements about another's guilt unless they have ALL the necessary facts to do so. The fact that you think they should (or can) just shows that you are either totally uneducated or VERY crooked or BOTH.

It appears you are using your rambling diatribes (again) as a stalling tactic to avoid answering very pertinent questions about your 15 year claim. Like I said, according to your statements you were allegedly abused from the age of 19-34 before you left Sai Baba. This means you would have been out of college for several years.

/m654

Quit putting words in my mouth usedbybaba. I NEVER said I worshiped Baba (I do NOT worship form of ANY kind). When you speak, speak for yourself. You cannot speak for others even though you arrogantly think you do.

I worship the TRUTH and Baba is a part of that truth. Your lies are NOT. Got that? Can you understand SIMPLE LOGIC?

You did NOT go to Sai Baba's college. Pure and simple, YOU are a LIAR.

Edited by author 10-22-2006 03:06 PM
So,usedbybabassss

can you please tell me,why did you stayyy there for moreeeee then 15 yearsss.
Thanxxxxxxxx.

Edited by author 10-22-2006 02:36 PM
"you already know so many anti babas who have even given their name ? what did you do with them .Simply said they are liers or at least acquiced with the pro babas, why??
What do you expect from us. To tell you and others who we are and after all that make Lisa and Joe abuse us.
Why are you not researching about Pro babas and find out if they have an ulterior motive etc. If you do that you can say you are nuetral"
_________________


what did i do with them,.Simply said they are liers ?

ermm ,no that's a blatant lie...i've never called them or anyone else a liar.
I have really no idea what the truth is,so I'm not siding with anyone.
I'm not interested into knowing who you are,nor do i consider you to be a regular typical "anti babas".
You fit into other category,you're a sexually abused victim.
So I'm naturally interested in your story,like i wanna know why you lived there for 15 years if you were abused.I'm not trying to find out who you are,just to make sense of your story.
Obviously I'm not interested in criticizing or defending pro babas since they're entitled to their opinion,it's their thing what they do.
I'm just trying to find out what the truth is and like i said to make sense of your story ,not to find out who you are.
You're just one outta billion Indians to me,you could be anyyyyyyone.

"usedbybaba", as I said before: You are unbelievable and no one believes you.

There is no believing an anonymous and faceless hypocrite to defames others unapologetically under the guise of anonymity. Anyone can say anything they like under the guise of anonymity. You are such a person and you have zero credibility (just like Anti-Sai Activists themselves).

Once again, you accused me of making money off my websites. Where is your proof? I think everyone would like to see it, me included.

Exposing "usedbybaba: Click Here

you already know so many anti babas who have even given their name ? what did you do with them .Simply said they are liers or at least acquiced with the pro babas, why??
What do you expect from us. To tell you and others who we are and after all that make Lisa and Joe abuse us.
Why are you not researching about Pro babas and find out if they have an ulterior motive etc. If you do that you can say you are nuetral

i'm not trying to find out who the Anti babassssss are.
I want the truthhhhhhhhh..
get ittttttt,usedbybabassssssssssss

i'm not pro or anti
i'm neutrallllllllllllllllllllll babassssssssssssssssss




Then why are you always siding the Pro baba people,trying to find out who the Anti babas are etc.,and then doing a copy paste of Anti Babas' messages, and in turn trying to help the Pro babas????

Joe108 "You are unbelievable and no one believes you".

Then why are you bothered, your avatar is not harmed atall.Then allow us to write what we write instead of abusing us. Why did you create a web site if you know that nobody is going to believe us Anti sais. Scared is it? Fear that your baba wiil be exposed.By the way Babais already exposed and we are just making sure that everyone knows about it.

Joe108 "You are unbelievable and no one believes you".

Then why are you bothered, your avatar is not harmed atall.Then allow us to write what we write instead of abusing us. Why did you create a web site if you know that nobody is going to believe us Anti sais. Scared is it? Fear that your baba wiil be exposed.

Edited by author 10-22-2006 11:17 AM
whhhhhhhhhhhy did youuuuuuuu stayyyyyyyy there for
soooooooooooooooooo

longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg



















?









p.s.

i'm not pro or anti
i'm neutrallllllllllllllllllllll babassssssssssssssssss

Edited by author 10-22-2006 11:13 AM
how the heck should i know if Sb is an avatar,what am i psychic or what?
you're asking impossible question?

Then why are you always siding the Pro baba people,trying to find out who the Anti babas are etc.,and then doing a copy paste of Anti Babas' messages, and in turn trying to help the Pro babas????

NOTE: THE PREVIOUS MAIL IS AN ANSWER FOR JOE 108 and this is for Angel

If you cannot answer my question and slip away from facts under the assumption that people are not able to understand your ideas, i am sorry.
Everyone knows the fact.You can't even post amail on your own answer on the "Proof" etc.,
When you refuse to come to a topic like "My life is my message" It makes people doubt your sincerity.
B7y the way thank you for mailing the names of so many anti sais.I don't have to search for them.
What have you exposed about me? that is the joke.What if i abuse ? Will it prove that Baba is God? Typical of you to just write the most irrelevant things and say in big letters 'EXPOSED"
My God How professional?????? you are. weired.

how the heck should i know if Sb is an avatar,what am i psychic or what?
you're asking impossible question?
Time will tell.
i don't know and in the end it doesn't materrrrrr since all is oneeee.

btwwww,Why wouldn't you tell me what you did in Parthi for 15 years,did you stay there despite your abuse or whattttt?

"what is the truthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?"

The truth is - either baba is an Avatar or he is not, and not whether edwards is somasundaram etc.,
See how you jump from my quetion on "My life is my message" declaration of baba.
You say you answered my questions.
When did you say that you believe or do not believe in Baba as Avatar??
Don't say ,If he was a abuser etc., then he is not an Avatar. You and the others know that it is a very slippery subject (the abuser or not question).
I did so many things in parthi and why should i tell you that when i don't want it to be the subject.
You want a subject other than baba is it not?? that too a quetionable one.
I am sorry i know you are part of these guys who are not interested any post aginst baba for you have been helping their cause sooooooooo much.

"usedbybaba", fantastic logic there. I am still waiting for the proof that I am making money from my sites. You made that claim. Now substantiate it.

The fact remains that you cannot substantiate any of your numerous defamations and claims. You viciously attack others as "whores" and "bitches". You made the most perverted, filthy and deviant comments to Lisa on the SSB2 Yahoo Group. You come in here making similar defamations against Sathya Sai Baba.

You do all of this anonymously using numerous fake names. You are unbelievable and no one believes you.

Exposing "usedbybaba: Click Here

"What if somasundaram and edwards are the same.Will it change the truth."

what is the truthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

Edited by author 10-22-2006 10:06 AM
I believe everyone is Goddd.
All is Oneee.
There's no dualityyyyyy.
........SO,anywayyyyyyy,
what did you do in Parthi for 15 yearsss.
Education for 15 years orrrrr ...?
You don't need to give uss yearsssss.
Just in general ,what did you do thereeee?Whyyy did you stayyy there for sooooooooo longgggg?

Edited by author 10-22-2006 09:55 AM
FOr your information this is what i wrote But who wants the truth . I am ready for a common topic, but Angel is interested only in the sexual molestation story when i say it is not possible to prove ,joe says there is no proof( I tell him the same) and Lisa hmm, i don't know what she wants.She told us that everyone is God and When I ask, then what is the special reason for worshipping baba, She says that she has experienced baba,That is as unprovable as my accussations ? So i say read what i say and then we can go ahead.

"I TALKD ABOUT SO MANY THINGS LIKE "MY LIFE IS MY MESSAGE " ETC., BUT ALL YOU WANT IS TO ABUSE AND SEND HATE MAILS AND PROVOKE PEOPLE.MY FIRST MAILS WERE NOTHING BUT INNOCENT FACTS BUT YOU AND LISA AND THE SO CALLED SIMON DID NOTHING BUT ABUSE.YOU ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT ME AND I REALISED THAT NEITHER YOU NOR I CAN PROVE EITHER WAY.SO WHEN I TOOK A GENERAL TOPIC, YOU KEPT QUITE, WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO BREAK THE THREAD OF MY ARGUMENT AND THEN AGAIN WENT BACK TO CALLING ME A NAMES.
ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION.
IF BABA IS GOD WHY DID HE NOT FOLLOW THE LAW IN THE MURDER CASE/
HE TOLD US HE IS OUR EXAMPLE.
ASSUME I WAS NOT ABUSED AND I AM LIER AND I BAD MOUTH PEOPLE AND ALL THAT .
BUT YOU SAY THAT YOU NEED PROOF .I SAY GOD IS NOT A HYPOCRATE. If he says His life is his message he would behave like a real example

Edited by author 10-22-2006 09:36 AM
Angel you keep harping on who is who and refuse to say whether baba is God or not .What if somasundaram and edwards are the same.Will it change the truth.

   joe108 -"usedbybaba" GIVE US PROOF YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID TO BE HERE."

Exactly that is what i am saying and you have now come to the conclusion that nobody can prove ,for or against these allegations.Now that is why i ask you to come to a common point and all of you refuse (joe108 or Lisa or Angel)

Joe, you can lead a dummy to water but you can't make him think! All the information people need in order to see the racist campaign against Sai Baba is a farce is on your site, saisathyasai.com. If people are so ignorant that they cannot understand the parameters of the legal system and how it was set up to protect even dummies like them, there is not much hope for them. Now you see how fascism begins and we know the end result.

Somasundaram ,Edward ,Josephine Kabutla ,it's obvious you're all the same person.You're all posting few minutes apart.
I've noticed Sanjay posting in ssb2 at that time,so it must be you.
What's the point?

Edited by author 10-20-2006 01:17 PM
/m633
"usedbybaba" GIVE US PROOF YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID TO BE HERE. lol

Google search for BBC Bias.

/m645
Edward, I am not the only one who claimed that the BBC was biased. The BBC's bias came with a self-admission from Anti-Sai Activists themselves. Obviously, you are not reading the posts (/m644).

Edited by author 10-20-2006 01:09 PM
Edward, let's see: You lied about Sathya Sai Baba being an "exposed pedophile who has raped children" (/m622), someone who "takes away the innocence of children" (/m637), someone who "stands charged with very serious accusations" (/m637), that I am a brainwashed devotee of an "evil child abuser".

Where is your proof that Sathya Sai Baba is:

1. An "exposed pedophile who has raped children".
2. Someone who "takes away the innocence of children".
3. Someone who "stands charged with very serious accusations".
4. That Baba is an "evil child abuser".

Despite publicly making these bold-faced, libelous and defamatory lies and accusations, you have the audacity to say "I am not making any allegations against Sai Baba I am just going by what I have read on the Internet". Perhaps you need to do an internet search on the non-historicity of Jesus Christ (boy are you going to be in for a rude awakening). Are we to believe everything we read on the internet?

If your statements about Baba are not lies, as I contend, then you should have no problem supplying with me the proof I am asking you for. Once again, where are all the police complaints, court cases, affidavits, parent's statments defending their children, etc.? Once you show me proof to support your claims, then I will show my concern. Until that time comes, I will hold you responsible for your words, your dishonesty, your lies and your religious bias. Period.

Joe, are you seriously attempting to say that some sections of the BBC are unreliable? You are unbelievable. The BBC is a world famous broadcaster as Josephine said and they went around filming everything themselves. I've seen the BBC movie and it was very good, I don't think you have a case against them. One small guy against the BBC? No way Jose.

Josephine, then you are trusting a broadcasting company that Anti-Sai Activists openly claimed were sympathetic and favorable to their cause. Many Anti-Sai Activists boasted on how they worked with the BBC. Tanya Datta had an established relationship with Premanand (an atheist and critic of Baba since 1968), prior to the making of the documentary. The BBC.co.uk should not be confused with BBC News (which is a world famous news broadcasting company). The BBC.co.uk has been repeatedly accused of bias and they air exclusively in the UK. In the case of Sathya Sai Baba, the BBC's bias is apparent because Anti-Sai Activist's themselves claimed the BBC was biased in their favor! See for yourself: Reference. This one page does not deal with numerous other claims (from Anti-Sai's) who claimed they were working closely with the BBC during its production.

Joe, I'm surprised at how quickly you've started to act like a little child. What am I supposed to have lied about exactly? And why do you have so much animosity towards Christians like myself? I am not making any allegations against Sai Baba I am just going by what I have read on the Internet. I'd appreciate it if you stop abusing me and talking in a condescending way, talking about Lord Jesus as if you are an expert when it's been a long time since you read a Bible. This is not your board so stop acting as if it belongs to you. More importantly, I'm very disturbed at you don't appear to be concerned at all about any children who may have been abused by this evil pervert and you're only interesting in arguing about their ages and oilings. What do you mean by oilings? And why are you so reluctant to accept this as sexual abuse? Does it really matter how old they are if Sai Baba is sexually abusing them?

Hi Joe, thanks for the links. But it looks like concentrate way to much on little Alaya and have very little to say about the rest of the BBC movie. Your facts are interesting but I still feel you haven't proven anything concrete. The BBC is a world famous broadcasting company and not a dingy company, so I feel better trusting their reportage of the problem. Thanks anyway.

Edited by author 10-20-2006 12:15 PM
Edward, want to talk "abusive"? See your first post to me where you asked me "what drugs are you on?" (/m622). Once again, the word "hypocrisy" seems to be appropriate.

Edward, the fact remains that you are a liar, an embellisher and a Chrisitan self-righteous hypocrite. You have no proof to support any of your claims against Sathya Sai Baba. So far, I have asked you for proof twice. I will ask you again: Show me the proof? After all, since you are a truthful Christian making serious and criminal allegations against Baba, you should have no problem supporting your claims.

You should get a life and stop spreading your libel and defamation on online boards in the name of Jesus (who would not approve of your lies, negativity and hate). So practice what you preach and stop "wasting your breath".

This is a nice website: http://www.ramanuja.org/

Joe, you obviously don't know how to hold a conversation and now you have become completely abusive. I should have known there's no talking to brainwashed devotees of evil child abusers. So you are an atheist? No wonder you hate Christians because people like you will never find the love of Lord Jesus Christ. I'm sticking to what I originally said yesterday that you folks should get a life because it is just a waste of breath to talk about an evil person like Sai Baba.

Edited by author 10-20-2006 11:57 AM
Edward, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. You are a liar, an embellisher and a self-righteous hypocrite. Once again, where is the proof that Sathya Sai Baba is a sexual abuser of "little children"? Where are all the court cases? Where are all the police complaints? Where are all the affidavits? Where are all the parent's defending their "little children"?

You may want to justify your choice of words by resorting to semantics, however, the term "little children" is factually inaccurate. There were only two 16 year olds who were non-sexually oiled and ALL other alleged victims were over 18 years of age and adults. If you want to call teenagers and adults "little children", that is your choice. A choice that proves you do not care for facts or the truth and that you have some sort of agenda to push (which appears to be a Christian one). Take your unconscionable lies up with your Bible, your conscience and your sleep.

Once again, show me the proof.

Joe, as if it makes a blind bit of difference to get into semantics over the definition of children. If enough people say that he is a sexual abuser then that is good reason to stay away and keep your guard up. I can't see how you can have any advantage when you are defending someone who stands charged with very serious accusations such as this. And then there is the idea that he is God! Do you think in your own heart that God would sexually abuse little children when Jesus said in the Bible that children are pure, and that the Kingdom of God is made up of such as them? I don't know how you can stand up in defence of someone who takes away the innocence of children or YOUTHS as you differentiate. This is unconscionable. I hope you can sleep at night.

Edited by author 10-20-2006 02:08 AM
Usedbybaba, if you want to sue Baba in Indian court to prove he is a fraud, go for it. How come you bozos haven't tried it yet? Are you scared you will lose? You claim to have all this evidence yet here you are whining on the internet like a five year old. Like I said, fraud is a very easy thing to prove yet you cowards are still on the internet after six years babbling and whining like idiots!

And you are so dumb as not to see how illogical this looks to people who actually have brains! You demand proof yet you are unwilling to prove your sordid accusations. How hypocritical you are, con man!

Edward, the only people who are proven to be under the influence are the anti-Sais, many of whom have long histories of alcohol/drug abuse and their irratic behavior on the internet seems to be part of that continuing drama. Unlike you we actually did our research and have VERY good arguments as to how we have come to the conclusion that this smear campaign is just that. Shame on you if you are a US citizen who doesn't believe in the legal system. Don't cry to me if you are ever accused of molestation by anonymous people and it is smeared all over the internet for the whole world to see even though you have never been convicted of a crime.

Usedbybaba, you are nothing but a hypocrite asking people for proof of things when cowardly you can't even prove you went to Sai Baba's college OR your name! And YOU are the abuser buddy. You lie about others, you talk like a disgusting pervert and then blame other people for your sewerbrain!
YOU were the FIRST to start with the abuse by lying about Baba and others. If you don't want to be called a liar prove your baloney in court. Until then your very inconsistent statements are considered lies and that is why you avoid the courtroom like the plague.

And then to top it off you are using other usernames to hide behind while you spout your foul poisons! Nobody is so dumb as not to see Om Sai is YOU!
You are like a worm who thinks he is worming his way out of the mess he is in.

Like I said, you are too dumb to have been in Sai Baba's college. That in itself is proof enough that you are a liar.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 09:27 PM
"Edward, show me the proof? I demand the same evidence you would demand if YOU were accused of pedophilia and raping children. And name ONE non-anonymous case where Sathya Sai Baba has been accused of raping "children".

GIVE US A PROOF THAT HE IS GOD. GIVE US A PROOF THAT YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID FOR YOUR WORK HERE,GIVE US PROOF THAT BABA IS NOT A PEDOPHILE.

A PROOF IS SOMETHING IRREFUTABLE,LIKE THE GRAVITY.IF YOU DROP SOMTHING IT WOULD FALL DOWN.
i TALKD ABOUT SO MANY THINGS LIKE "MY LIFE IS MY MESAGE " ETC., BUT ALL YOU WANT IS TO ABUSE AND SEND HATE MAILS AND PROVOKE PEOPLE.MY FIRST MAILS WERE NOTHING BUT INNOCENT FACTS BUT YOU AND LISA AND THE SO CALLED SIMON DID NOTHING BUT ABUSE.YOU ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT ME AND I REALISED THAT NEITHER YOU NOR I CAN PROVE EITHER WAY.SO WHEN I TOOK A GENERAL TOPIC, YOU KEPT QUITE, WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO BREAK THE THREAD OF MY ARGUMENT AND THEN AGAIN WENT BACK TO CALLING ME A NAMES.
ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION.
IF BABA IS GOD WHY DID HE NOT FOLLOW THE LAW IN THE MURDER CASE/
HE TOLD US HE IS OUR EXAMPLE.
ASSUME I WAS NOT ABUSED AND I AM LIER AND I BAD MOUTH PEOPLE AND ALL THAT .
BUT YOU SAY THAT YOU NEED PROOF .I SAY GOD IS NOT A HYPOCRATE. If he says His life is his message he would behave like a real example.

BTW,by informed i meant that you know what other swamis say and stuff.I dunno i kinda expected you'd be repulsed by gurus and swamis in general.
SO,what did you do in Parthi for 15 years.Education for 15 years or ...?
You don't need to give years.
Just in general ,what did you do there?Why were you there for so long?

Angel"You seem very well informed".
But you are interested only in my sexual abuse right.

re /m620
"usedbybaba", if you are SO truthful, why don't you provide any evidence that I am making money off my website? After all, you are the one harping about your honesty, truthfulness and integrity. What proof do you have that I am making money from my sites?

You are a liar, a pervert and a deviant, with proof. I can back it up as well: Reference. You call other "whores" and "hookers" with no proof either. You are unbelievable and no one believes you.

re /m622
Edward said:

Joe108, what drugs are you on? How can you defend an exposed pedophile who has raped children? Open your eyes and let the light of God shine in them, not the fake fraud Sathya Sai Baba. Open your heart too.

Edward, show me the proof? I demand the same evidence you would demand if YOU were accused of pedophilia and raping children. And name ONE non-anonymous case where Sathya Sai Baba has been accused of raping "children".

As I stated on my site: Anti-Sai Activists wage an unremitting smear campaign against Sathya Sai Baba that accuses him of "serial pedophilia" and the sexual abuse of "boys" and "children". These comments are fallacious, unsustantiated and wholly misleading. "Pedophilia" is the sexual abuse or exploitation of a boy, girl or child 12/13 years of age or younger (Ref). There are no testimonies from boys, children or parents of children that support the erroneous claim that Sathya Sai Baba is a pedophile/paedophile who engaged in sexual interactions with children. As a matter of fact, the youngest, non-anonymous testimony came from a 16 years old teenager (Jed Geyerhahn) who claimed he received a non-sexual "oiling". This once again goes to show how those inimical towards Sathya Sai Baba resort to cheap propaganda and blatant disinformation because the truth simply does not argue in their favor.

Where is your proof, Edward? Where are you getting your information from?

http://www.saisathyasai.com/

Edited by author 10-19-2006 03:50 PM
/m266
Josephine, I think you should view the new facts regarding Alaya Rahm, the primary "witness" in the BBC Documentary, "Secret Swami". After reading these articles, let me know if you have not changed your mind and why:

- Withheld Facts In The Secret Swami
- Alaya Rahm - Testimonies Against Sathya Sai Baba
- Alaya Rahm's Self-Dismissed Lawsuit

Alaya is not credible.

ubb,
It seems you're still interested in other gurus & swamis and their views on things,you seem to be influenced by their teachings and stuff...it's surprising considering you were sexually abused by one.
You seem very well informed.




"You say that there is a chance that one of was hallucinating .Me or the other devotee friends of yours. Now are you not confused"
_________

No i said i don't think that was the case.


ubb,
what were you doing in Parthi for so long ,more then 15 years you said??

I saw the BBC movie about Sathya Sai Baba and I liked it a lot. It was very informative and helped me to come to my conclusions about Baba. I don't think it matters anymore because the testimonies of sexual abuse were very telling and made a great impact on me.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 01:02 PM
You say that there is a chance that one of was hallucinating .Me or the other devotee friends of yours. Now are you not confused.. You have not seen Baba but has developed a sort of attachment ,Which I call devotion. I was devotee from child hood hearing stories of his Divinity and miracles. I then go to parthi and hear stories of students and lecturers who sacrificed to become close to baba. I was pig headed. Why, because there is an unknown desire in many human beings to be on the side of God and be called by him or talk to him or talk to his messenger. Maybe, the same feeling one gets when one feels that he is a fan of a great Actor or Singer or politician.
Every one of us want to be recognized .Now if we are recognized by God will it not be great. We hope someone is a very revered person and hope that this person has a solution to all our doubts. We need approval from this person for whatever decision that we are making .We would prefer it directly but satisfy his other than “physical” answer, because we have no choice. That is the reason for my not changing myself from a devotee to a non devotee and that is the same reason that some people hallucinate and “get the divine approval” .
To tell you in the words of Swami Ramana Maharishi “ Advita ,Dwaitha and vishitadwitha are all, right, but they are different stages in a person’s spiritual progress.

Meaning you are a spark of the Divine and if you want to see anyone as divine you will see that person as divine, for it is the desire of the person who wanted to see it that way and he/she is after all GOD (who does not know that he/she is divine).

Read books on the subconscious mind and its powers and you may be able to correlate.


Now seeing the sucess of baba,There are many more Avatars and Gurus.For eg. Mata Amritanandamayi inKerala,Bangaru Adigalar and Shiv shankar Baba and Kalki Bhagavan ( the Avatar of this Kalki era)who all have strong force of devotees from Actors to Politicians to scientists to boast of.
Now who is the real guru or Avatar.The unifying factor is that they are all Millionares within a short period. To me they are all nothing but businees people who understood the need for a "GOD SERVICE" and they filled the vacuam and are making money.Unlike people like Raman Maharishi who wore only a loin cloth and Sri Ramakrishanparama hamsa who lived a life of devotion and poverty.

"can you see the blank page below? that was my mail"
no i can't.

even i can't see now. i think you have to go to your in box and open an old message and then come from there.It was the 615 or the 616 message or somwhere there.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 12:22 PM
i mean i have not abused anyone in that post.It is a very long thing an i cannot write again.I 'll anyhow try when i am in mood to write.
Angel,Please go ahead and be a devotee.This is not a sarcastic sentence.I mean it .If it helps you you can be a devotee.Ramakrishna paramahamsa the great guru of Swami vivekananda said that even if you believe a theif to be god and sincerely pray to him,your prayers will be answered.In this case,all you have to do is notto hear what we anti sai's are saying except the advice "don't go to parthi, and don't give your money as donation".
if you go there you might get caught and a donation is for the baba not God

Joe108, what drugs are you on? How can you defend an exposed pedophile who has raped children? Open your eyes and let the light of God shine in them, not the fake fraud Sathya Sai Baba. Open your heart too.

"can you see the blank page below? that was my mail"

no i can't.

I know you(joe 108) have a website on baba and that is your business and you have to protect it at all costs. You are making money but not making any sense.
Talking to you is like promoting your site.I am not here to do that and i would not be interested in such a Human?? being. One who makes money on other people's emotions is not normal.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 12:14 PM
"by the way is there any way i can retrive a message that i lost because my online connection got diconnected, Angel?
What i wrote was very satisfactory. you would have got a clear picture how this Avatar thing an God is used in India and now abroad. I wrote a full page,Maybe ?? There was absolutely no abuse.I t was about me and my experience."
____________________________
but i thought you've experienced abuse?

what do you mean by ..."There was absolutely no abuse"

so you're saying you weren't abused,or there was no use of abusive language in the post?

God does not want you to post it??

so God wants you to post..."There was absolutely no abuse" cause that's what you just wrote!

what are you trying to say??

please post again.

re /m615
Now, "usedbybaba" is claiming he was not abused!

"There was absolutely no abuse.I t was about me and my experience."

Weird.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 11:46 AM
I have recently updated my thread about Alaya Rahm's Failed & Self-Dismissed Lawsuit with the following information:

Furthermore, regarding Kreydick's sworn and video-taped deposition, Anti-Sai Activists have attempted to cast slurs on Kreydick's integrity and have accused him of being "prejudiced" in favor of Sathya Sai Baba. Ironically enough, in "Response To Form Interrogatories", it was none other than Alaya Rahm himself who cited Kreydick & Family as witnesses on his behalf!

Alaya Rahm claimed that Lewis Kreydick & Family were all aware of "incidents" relating to his alleged molestation and named them (on record) as people who:

1. Witnessed the INCIDENT or the event occurring immediately before or after the INCIDENT.
2. Made statements at the scene of the INCIDENT.
3. Heard statements made about the INCIDENT by any individual at the scene.
4. Had knowledge of the INCIDENT.

Needless to say, Kreydick's sworn and video-taped deposition wholly refuted all these points made by Alaya Rahm. The Society did not actively go out and attempt to discredit Alaya Rahm. Rather, they simply interviewed a witness named by Alaya Rahm himself and obtained a shocking and damaging deposition against him.

It is amusing that Anti-Sai Activists claim that Kreydick's testimony "could easily be contested by expert psychologists". Notably, in pretrial discovery, Alaya Rahm claimed that he had suffered no psychological trauma that would have required medical or psychiatric care. Furthermore, Alaya identified no psychologist who had ever examined him! So it does not appear that there were any "expert psychologists" who were prepared to support or defend Alaya's position.

As a matter of fact, Alaya Rahm never saw an "expert psychologist" and his parents never sent him to one. Rather, the only help that Alaya obtained was a 3 day seminar from the Landmark Forum on "Empowerment, self help and personal growth" that cost $795 in June 2005 (5 years after his alleged abuse and 5 months after he filed his lawsuit)! That's it.

Relevant Links:
- Alaya Rahm Self-Dismisses His Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society
- Scathing Response To Critics

can you see the blank page below? that was my mail

by the way is there any way i can retrive a message that i lost because my online connection got diconnected, Angel?
What i wrote was very satisfactory. you would have got a clear picture how this Avatar thing an God is used in India and now abroad. I wrote a full page,Maybe god does not want me to post it?? There was absolutely no abuse.I t was about me and my experience.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 11:43 AM
hey,Angel, if u think i did the "om sai" message sorry not me.

Sai Baba? What's the point? Why are you folks wasting your breath? He's already been proven as a fraudster, you people evidently have too much time on your hands. Get a life.

"lisa de bitch y dont u shut the fuck up u silly lallupanju whore"
ubb,
why are you using different username?
what's the point?

lisa de bitch y dont u shut the fuck up u silly lallupanju whore

Angelic, usedbybaba's statement was that he was "abused for 15 years". If he was abused for 15 years and the abuse did not start until he was nineteen and in college, that means he remained in the situation until he was approximately 34.

Not only that but I seriously doubt this bozo could ever get into Sai Baba's college. Like Joe said (and I was thinking the same thing) students from that institute are very smart and their english is excellent. Usedbybaba does NOT fit the profile of a student from that school.

Edited by author 10-18-2006 03:38 PM
"the fact is he tries two to three new persons every month "


that's a lot,so in 15 years that means he molested 540 boys .
In 30 years that's 1080 boys.

So ,is it safe to say that at this point it's a common knowledge in India that sb is an abuser,due to such enormously high number of his victims?

"Kristijan, precisely. You do not believe that they are lying. If you consider it from the other point of view, that they are lying, the whole problem is resolved. Either they are lying or they are hallucinating, the answer is along those lines."

Well, they both appear to be totally genuine ,caring people,you can just sense it ,both are well educated.
So, nope they aren't lying for sure.

Hallucination?
Yeah ,that would be my choice,but there's one problem though.
After she(L.) saw sb next to their bed at 3 AM,she woke J. up and he saw SB leaving their room.
They surely weren't hallucinating,not both of them.

Edited by author 10-18-2006 06:53 PM
usedbybaba,
I'm just wondering.
At the time of your abuse...

You were an adult,so I'm just thinking,OK you did it 1 time ,you were confused and shocked and didn't know how to react ,you were caught in the heat of the moment and did what he asked you,simple as that,he was your God.OK.

you said it was nauseating.I got that.

I mean that night after it happened for the first time I'm sure you thought thoroughly about what happened and you analyzed everything over and over again.



So, can you please tell me what was the reason you returned to Sb and gave him another bj for a few more times.

It's really difficult for me to comprehend. Please I'm just trying to understand.

Edited by author 10-18-2006 08:46 AM
"As far as the 15 years is concerned ,I lived more than that in Parthi "

how young exactly were you when you started living in Parthi, for what reason?
what did you do there for more then 15 years?

For those who do not understand why CO2000 & I make jests about Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") Serious Drinking Problems, here are the reasons: Posts taken from Sanjay's former "killuminati blog"

SANJAY DADLANI (aka SAI BABA EXPOSED) SAID:

It scares me, because I was able to get over it with drink before, but now it seems that the alcohol does not work. So that scares me. If alcohol doesn't work this time, I gotta cut myself?

F*ck, I shocked myself. I used to take bottles of vodka into college and drink it in the computer room as I surfed endlessly. I'm still f*cking surprised as to how no one ever smelt it on me? So now alcohol ain't gonnabe enough to deal with this sh*t? I need to progress to self-harm? What the f*cking F*CK?!?! I'm losing touch with reality. Someone needs to save me. Who? No idea. Who? Someone, who? Mr. Motherf*cker, I pray to be able to survive.

I have absolutely no idea what I wrote last night, as I was seriously blind drunk. That may or may not be a good thing, but the fact that I lost my blog somehow without posting it, and then to try and pen another one when even drunker was a bad idea...F*ck this drunken sh*t... Actually no.. I LOVE mixin drinks... Makes you more drunk than you have a right to be.. ;) In any case, four glasses of whiskey coupled with two bottles of Stella shoud sort you out .. ;)

I lost my bus pass and the money which was in it to buy my ticket for the Motorhead gig. :( So I got as drunk as f*ck, haha.

The woman is so f*cking ugly. She'd make dogs bark at each other. It's just as well I took a bottle of whiskey, I think I might have needed to get seriously drunk before I could get down to some serious sh*t with her.

By this time I was gasping for a drink. I bought a can of shandy. Lame I know, but it was the first thing I saw. One the way home I stopped off at a pub for a pint of Guinness. Just as I was ordering, some rock/gothic chick in a miniskirt and boots walked in and turned out she was the barmaid there. Gave me something cool to look at while I was supping.

Anyway, what's the point of crying about it now? I cry every night as it is, into my glass of whisky. I drink myself half-stupid every night since I got back and read that f*cking 'Dear John' email. I f*cking hate whisky, but that was the only alcoholic thing they drank in Sri Lanka and I developed a taste for it, so there. Beer will only give you a big belly anyway, liquor is where it's at. The hard stuff. Absinthe? Never tried it. Want to? I'd love some. Even though I'll have to f*cking figure out where to get it from and all.

I really shouldn't blog when I'm pissed; the alcohol makes me incoherent and a bad typist and the text becomes incomprehensible. I guess what I was trying to convey was how it always works out like sh*t.

Maybe I should talk about my deepest feelings when I'm pissed drunk, but when am I NOT drunk? I been crying and drinking every night since I got back from SL. And why? F*ck knows, man. I care for this b*tch, I love her more than anything, and she doesn't even realise..And they say the "real person" come sout when drunk, but I dunno how true that is.

So we were gonna meet up at her place while her boyfriend was away for a week. Ain't that smooth? I took a bottle of whisky coz I thought it'd be fun to have a drink as well as put us in the mood and all that. Throwing away your inhibitions and all that sh*t. And frankly, because she's not that much of a looker, I figure I'd need it. Harsh I agree, but hey, that's just the way it goes.

So the other night when I got so drunk that I ended up vomiting in the kitchen sink, after that I kind of realised how I had managed to vomit my pain out. My grief has considerably lessened since then, even though it is still very much there.

This is the sicko who posts here and tries to convince others of his lamentable arguments.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Edited by author 10-18-2006 01:08 AM
Too bad Dictator Sanjay.

Since "usedbybaba" is attempting to make his sympathy pitch here, my post (/m596) is entirely relevant. Have problems with it? Leave! :-)

It is nothing less than hypocritical that Sanjay is still citing LIMF as a reliable, honest, objective and accurate book relating to information about Sathya Sai Baba. The implications of Sanjay's acceptance of LIMF (of course) is that the astounding paranormal and psychic phenomena attributed to Sathya Sai Baba in LIMF is similarly reliable, honest, objective and accurate.

Don't you agree Sanjay? Oh wait. You already agreed with me since you keep citing LIMF as a reliable, honest, objective and accurate book. Speaks volumes about the reliability, honesty, objectivity and accuracy of Sai Devotees. Thank you Sanjay!

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Sanjay, apparently you have learning disabilities if you STILL have to ask what I think about Sai Baba.

Besides that, I do not see any point in discussing anything with you, especially when you are on a drunken rampage and ALWAYS so irrational to boot.

You are like a spoiled child who has constantly soiled pants and nothing consoles you.

And despite the fact that nobody in Puttaparthi was supposed to know who Shirdi Sai Baba was, two of Raju's own uncles were openly worshipping Shirdi Baba with devotion. :-)

It makes you wonder about the veracity of Kasturi's writing. When Raju went berserk after being bitten (or not, ha ha ha) by a scorpion and declaring that he was the Shirdi reincarnation, the family took him to a known worshipper of Shirdi Sai Baba in Penukonda who could have verified his identity/divinity, and according to Kasturi dismissed Raju as a lunatic.

Why did they travel all the way to Penukonda when two of Raju's own uncles could have answered the question, what to speak of the Shirdi devotees in Puttaparthi and Uravakonda? Yes, a newer fact shows that even the people of Uravakonda were Shirdi Sai devotees. Well, some of them anyway. :-)

As if posting my blogs wholesale on sathyasaibaba2 is any different to compared to Moreno's behaviour, who floods boards with irrelevant rubbish whenever the fancy takes him. Nice to see the two homosexuals openly embracing each other and approving each other's behaviour.

Lisa, stop barking and answer /m589. We are waiting for your explanation. You are in the minority so you have to explain your views. That is, if you can quit it with the schoolchild one-upmanship behaviour that disqualifies you from practising spirituality of any kind. :-)

Say, did you know that Puttaparthi Raju was wearing lockets of Shirdi Sai Baba around in neck when the whole village (and district) was not supposed to have a clue who Shirdi was? That's what I call miraculous, hey? :-)

Edited by author 10-18-2006 12:23 AM
You think this is bad, you should see the hissy fits blabber mouth, and probably drunken, Sanjay is throwing on the other board! Twenty posts and counting!
Hey Sanjay, maybe when you grow up you can tell others what to do. After all, you are still living at home with your mommy and daddy at 28 years and counting.

Usedbybaba, I'm still waiting for you to explain why you believed Sai Baba was God and why your 15 year timeline isn't adding up and you are avoiding an explanation. You are going to be held accountable for your contradictory statements no matter how much you try to distract from the issues. Also, if you lived in Puttaparthi as a child, as you claim, you would have also gone to school there yet you have said nothing about that.

Homoreno, this is not a place to post your blogs wholesale. Either post an extract or give a link. Don't post entire blogs that are irrelevant and out of place in this discussion forum.

Behave.

Sanjay, re-read my prior comment and cry your heart out: /m590

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Here's soemthing that I just wrote on the SSBDC in response to a query:

"Whatever way one looks at it, Sai Baba is internationally acknowledged as a homosexual predator with involvement in murders, financial scandals, grandiose self-importance and many other disturbing things. He has been the subject of numerous news paper articles and television documentaries that report on all of these things. Even academics are now beginning to sit up and take note because this is now in the 'mainstream' perception of Sai Baba.

"It doesn't matter what devotees think and what they think of the controversy. We know very well how politics works; the slightest hint of dirt in someone's background is enough to discredit them. Nothing to do with his competency, he may have been very good at the job. Even apart from that, there were seveal political reasons why he could not have attained the position. One of them is that India is an up-and-coming superpower that is breaking new fields; the appointment of Tharoor - an Indian - would bring concerns about geopolitical nepotism.

"As a political diplomat who was vying for a position that would have brought him international renown and which would have merited his attention on matters of delicate international issues, his openly declared connections to a disturbing religious leader would work against him at the very least."

Edited by author 10-17-2006 11:29 PM
AbusedFor15Years / UsedByBaba Lies

Since mid-May of 2006, an anonymous and faceless person using the names "abusedfor15years" and "usedbybaba" (whom appears to have used the past names "ex-sai student", "X-S", "saibabagod", "sriram", "sebastian", "ravi saluja", "Another Ex Student", "victimofsaileela", "saurabh", "abhin", "blldexter" and many others) made numerous defamatory and criminal allegations against Sathya Sai Baba on the SathyaSaiBaba2 Yahoo Group & QuickTopic.

Needless to say, Sanjay immediately took to "usedbybaba" and engaged him in conversation, never expressing any sort of healthy skepticism or asking for any kind of proof, evidence, documents or data to support the erroneous and criminal allegations "usedbybaba" made against Sathya Sai Baba.

Fortunately, "usedbybaba" self-imploded and fully exposed himself (which Anti-Sai Activists tend to do when mildly provoked). The following posts reveal what kind of person "abusedfor15years" / "usedbybaba" truly is ("linga", in the following posts, means "penis"):

who is premanand? by the way watch your language u fu***king third rate ar88hole. you must have slept with all the guys and maybe forgot who among these is premanand. u must have molested your brother or father and blamed them for this Don't try to tell me i am a pervert Maybe you got fu''d by BaBA. I can write worse than this and i am capable of doing more, u shit pot.Nothing except shit comes out of your mouth. Maybe you eat through your bottom. You can"t keep calling me names and expect me to take it lying. You bi''**h Who the fuck are you to forgive me you lingam sucking swine. tell me where you are or when you come to india i will pesonally meet you if you have the guts.bitch.Did ur boy friend fu**k u in thr mouth. If i come to know who you are belive me i will get you. I remember people for life and don't take me for granted. BAS****D" (Reference).

sob sob sob sob sob. If you like the taste of linga how can you object to some one "molesting " you. Go and taste baba's linga . or rathnakar maybe.it is free. They told me he is divorced. Is it true? if it is true you can get married to him. try him he is only in his thirties unlike BaBa the Avatar who broke his leg who is in his seventies uh eighties oh no nineties. umm i dont know .maybe he will adjust it when he knows he is going to die to suit the stories that he told. by the way baba keeps telling the boys sbout the third leg. we know of Siva's third eye what is the third leg.ofcourse it is cock u dummy (Reference).

And on QuickTopic:

lenin999@yahoo.co.uk: you think the so called devotees will allow anyone to invetigate. NO, THEY WILL KILL HIM. Osama must be jelous of baba for having such wonderful (killers) devotees

It is significant to point out that the Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning in Prashanti Nilayam is the only college in India to have received an "A++" rating by the National Assessment and Accreditation Council (an autonomous body established by the University Grants Commission: Reference). For further proof, one can also read the Draft Report of the Peer Team on Institutional Accreditation of the Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning (Deemed University) Vidyagiri, Prashanthi Nilayam – 515 134 (A.P) Visit Dates: December 2 – 4, 2002 (Reference: DOC File).

This is the esteemed University that "abusedfor15years" / "usedbybaba" claimed he attended. Those who have visited Sathya Sai Baba's ashram know full well that his students speak flawless English and are reputed as some of the brightest in all of India (even receiving national awards from the President of India).

All it takes is one look at the atrocious English grammar and spelling used by "abusedfor15years" / "usedbybaba" to know that he never attended Sathya Sai Baba's prestigious University.

Funny enough "abusedfor15years" / "usedbybaba" pretended to be another student using the name of "blldexter". He accidentally posted under this name and tried to erase it later but his post was already sent to email subscribers, of which I am one. "usedbybaba" said about Baba's age, "BaBa the Avatar who broke his leg who is in his seventies uh eighties oh no nineties. umm i dont know". If "usedbybaba" was really a student for 15 years, why doesn't he know Baba's age? "usedbybaba" has no clue if Baba is in his 70's, 80's or 90's.

These are the anonymous and faceless defamers who spread their lies on the internet against Sathya Sai Baba. The tide has turned and the only people who are being "exposed" are Anti-Sai Activists themselves.

Exposing The Lies, Deceit & Dishonesty Of Critics, Skeptics And Ex-Devotees Of Sathya Sai Baba

Kristijan, precisely. You do not believe that they are lying. If you consider it from the other point of view, that they are lying, the whole problem is resolved. Either they are lying or they are hallucinating, the answer is along those lines.

It also doesn't ultimately matter if Sai Baba is guilty of child sex abuse or not, although this is not to be minimised. The fact is that he has attained fame (and wants more fame) on the basis of his alleged godhood. The fact also remains that he is not God and consequently his whole existence is based on a fraudulent and reprehensible sham. There are many reasons that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is not God. For a start, he doesn't pass the acid test.

By the way, Raju also lied about his status as a reincarnation of Shirdi Sai Baba. He lied to Karanjia in a media interview that only he was responsible for knowing anything about Shirdi Sai Baba in an area where nothing was known of him. The recently discovered facts now show that there was a strong culture of Shirdi worship in Puttaparthi; Raju regularly attended Shirdi bhajans, memorised the Satcharita, openly worshipped Shirdi Sai Baba and sang praises in his honour, wore a locket of Shirdi around his neck and much more.

No wonder everyone was "amazed" when he declared himself as the reincarnation in 1943 (not 1940), they were not amazed, they thought he had gone nuts!

OK, thanks for sharing,that was interesting.
now ,if that is true i don't get how it's possible that SB appeared in peoples room, next to their bed.And i don't at all believe people who said that are lying.
Something is weird.
LOL

Edited by author 10-17-2006 11:17 PM
/m590

Trust Gerald 'HoMo'reno to twist my statements completely out of context to suit his desultory purposes. What else can we expect from a proven intellectually dishonest liar? Perhaps we need to drill it into his thick head a second time; My blog is specifically written for the layman who probably doesn't know Sai Baba from Adam. That is the main reason why all of my articles are written as 'simple' as possible so that even a child can understand. I have also stated in my blog in several places that, despite my Gaudiya Vaishnava religion, I will not be arguing my points against Sai Baba from the viewpoint of Gaudiya Vaishnavism. Although I can do so very easily since it gives me plenty of ammunition, but it is unfair to launch a sectarian attack. :-)

Consequently I write for the 'layman' who may very well be an atheist and have no knowledge of Hindu/Vedantic philosophy and who can easily understand whatever it is that I am saying. As such, "sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like". Anyone with even half a brain can understand this point, but not Homoreno, oh no! He will find yet another way to twist this until it is unrecognisable, tsk tsk.

Homoreno accuses me (on other forums) of "cherry-picking" my sources when he does the exact same thing by paying undue attention to one sentence in a five-part series of articles. Talk about intellectual dishonesty with a generous helping of hypocrisy!

Joe Moreno EXPOSED! /m269

Dear Angel,
I will give you some details. Why? because I thought you are actually enticing me to tell some details and then maybe use it to get me in trouble. Now in the morning ,when I got up my heart told me that I need not fear you or anyone and I am getting a reassurance every time I am thinking of it.. If it happens to me I know that it is God’s voice (that has been my experience).I have also stopped abusing anyone including BaBa because of the same voice. I have learnt to forgive him too. Not that I am going to believe him ,but my inner feeing told me that for my own sake I have to forgive people.
Now coming to your questions. (I know that Lisa is going to ruthlessly abuse me usning my own words and that was one reason that I did not speak)
!.for nearly three years baba did not bother about me.During these years I was brain washed about Baba by my own faith being a fertile ground for growing my faith with tremendous input through Discourses, Students who were as devoted as me or more and the total Ambience.. This period makes you yearn for BaBa .Even during this period ,I saw Students who had been there before I joined behaving without any sense of so called Discipline, for reasons not understood by us. They would crack sex jokes etc.,. (period when I heard of Lallu Panju). Then when Baba started talking to me it was very very important thing in my life and all he did was told me to remove my pant and applied the oil below the solar plexes. Then he told me to take pada namaskar and when I tried to get up he would not allow me ,meaning he wanted me to go to his thing. by that time he had kissed me on the mouth and all that. Because of my faith it was a spiritual experience for me .My fear of thinking of sex in front of the Almighty etc., was gone. So I took it as an expeience.The next time he called me , I had just taken a cold shower and he caught my penis and the heat of his hand made it stand erect, But Baba was obviously very happy.He was all smiles. Now this handling of my thing went on for a few years and I thought he was purifying me or something beyond my comprehension. He did not do anything because I was not co-operate in the way he was expecting ,but I was very obviously very devoted and my faith was increasing .Seeing me innocently trusting him unlike the others who were either happily joining him or running away from parthi, he waited for me to get caught in his place.(Don’t ask me how?) Once I was caught he slowly started troubling me, but even here my innocence and faith in him saved me to a large extent. He compelled me to do the blow job and I was totally confused. He was giving me signals as though it is ok to be a homo .It was repulsive but God was telling me. I cannot tell you all the details because some of my friends know the details nd my way of expressing the same. Lisa said Baba must be having the knack of finding the dumb ones . the fact is he tries two to three new persons every month and it is we who decide what to do and I was dumb but there were many who were smart to use or go away. As far as the 15 years is concerned ,I lived more than that in Parthi and When I was supposed to fill the area of first name ,Second name and so on I just filled not knowing it will be displayed and to my own surprise. I haope you won’t lose your sleep over this.I feel you are sincere ,So let me reiterate. All the Molestation Charges are absolutely true, but some think it is the inexplicable way of God. When I was confused about things ,I met and Indian American ,to whom I had confessed, he told me that he had heard these accusations and was praying to know the truth and at that time I had confessed to him. Together we came out of thee rut mentally. I had to stay there for some more time and then was very happy to leave.
I cannot tell you when I came out becaus Every year except the boys who normally finish their cousre,among those who stayed longer,for more than a decade or so, only one or two persons come out and they can identify me.

re /m587 & /m588
Poor Sanjay (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED"). He must be pulling his hair out by now. lol

First of all I never claimed that people who believe in reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous phenomena and the like are are not "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people. Sanjay was the person who made this claim. Sanjay said:

Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like.

Funny enough, since Sanjay and his Scriptures promote belief in reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous phenomena and the like, one is left to wonder why Sanjay (a fanatic miracle monger) would claim that such people are NOT "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth"?

Sanjay attempted to clarify his position (got to give him points for trying):

My sentence was clearly intended for the consumption of people who do not believe in reincarnation, etc. It does not reflect my own personal beliefs.

Now, Sanjay is telling us that for those who do not believe in reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous phenomena and the like, that he, his Hare Krishna Gurus (Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gour Govinda Swami), his Hindu Scriptures (Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, Ramayana, Upanishads, etc) ALL should not be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people!

Talk about shooting one's self in the foot TWICE! lol

I think a quote from Alan Kazlev (Sanjay's newfound friend) is called for. Kazlev called Sanjay a "adolescent f*ckhead" (Ref). lol

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Lisa, even though Sai Baba says that you are a dog and you insist on barking like one, I'd say you are getting much closer to attaining your true nature now that you acknowledge yourself as behaving like a ferret. Close, but there's some way to go yet.

Why don't you lay your cards on the table and tell everyone why you believe in Sai Baba as God? Since you are in a minority in the world population, the whole world is waiting for your answer since you are the curiosity here, not the other way around.

And while you're racking your two brain cells trying to think of an answer that will make you look all smart and scholarly (but will fail as usual), you can try quitting it with the school playground behaviour when you ridiculously assert that you know more about Hinduism than born Hindus. Get a reality check, honey, you don't know jack! :-)

Stop behaving like a silly child.

/m570:

Gerald 'HoMo'reno has, in many places (even on Wikipedia) decried psychic and paranormal phenomena like reincarnation, spirit possessions, miraculous materializations, ghosts, miracles, demons, psychic powers, black magic, shape-shifters, angelic beings and the like.

Yet he openly professes his faith in Sai Baba (/m385) who, hilariously enough, is a complete believer in reincarnation, spirit possessions, miraculous materializations, ghosts, miracles, demons, psychic powers, black magic, shape-shifters, angelic beings, aliens, UFOs, and much more!

That's what you get for shooting yourself in your smelly feet, Homoreno! Lol.

Joe Moreno EXPOSED! /m269

Edited by author 10-17-2006 10:08 PM
Re /m570:

"On Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") blog, he said:

    "Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like."


Since all the scriptures that Sanjay believes in (i.e., Vedas, Puranas, Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, Upanishads and Ramayana) talk about (and promote belief in) reincarnation, spirit possessions, miraculous materializations, ghosts, miracles, demons, psychic powers, black magic, shape-shifters, angelic beings and the like, these scriptures cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people!

Sanjay just refuted the sciptures that are used to determine the "acid test" of an avatar. That's what you get for opening your big mouth Sanjay. lol"

Is Gerald 'HoMo'reno THICK Or Something?

My sentence was clearly intended for the consumption of people who do not believe in reincarnation, etc. It does not reflect my own personal beliefs. Unbelievable that such a thick person like Homoreno cannot understand such a simple thing. In fact, my entire blog is written in an "impartial" way since 'innocent' people are the target audience.

Tough luck Handbag! Please try again. :-)


P.S. And, as usual, neither of the two goons (Homoreno and Lisa) answered the point about the 'acid test'. The 'Acid Test' to determine avatarhood are predictions in the scriptures. Sai Baba is not predicted as an avatar in the scriptures, ergo he is a fraud. Very simple. It's all over. :-)

Edited by author 10-17-2006 07:28 PM
Usedbybaba, you have already claimed you believed Baba was God (and, according to you, that is why you gave him blow jobs) and now you are backtracking and saying he has to prove himself to you! Gee, can't you see how this makes you look like a liar?
Personally, I could care less whether you believe he is God or not. My job is to determine whether your statements are consistent and at this point they do not appear to be consistant all. When one combines that with the fact that you have ZERO corroborative witnesses and ZERO evidence of your claims, it is not hard to come to the conclusion that you are NOT a truthful person.
You have YET to tell us, even though you have been asked SEVERAL times, just WHY you believed Sai Baba was God.

You are the one playing with peoples emotions buddy. We are trying to ferret out the truth here and you keep jumping around the questions yet claiming you are answering them!

And quit your whining. You are just as abusive, if not more so, than anyone here with all your threats and mind games. You are using it as a poor excuse not to have to answer questions.

Edited by author 10-17-2006 02:04 PM
"Did I ?
Extremely sorry. That is another reason that i should not talk about my life and play with your emotions.
Angle"nobody needs to prove anything." so i need not prove whether i was abused or not. Or is this rule only for baba."

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To me it doesn't make any sense that a sexually abused victim would speak of it's abuser like that, as if you're just a regular person.

this is what you said:






"If a person is God, the onus is on him to prove it to us. "
_____________________
That person sexually molested you ,so your abuser doesn't need to prove anything to you, you already know everything and you have no reason to be interested in getting to know the truth ,since you already now it ALL.
 
you NEED to be obsessed talking about him molesting you and WARNING other people .








"the onus is on him to prove it to us. "
___________________

BUT I THOUGHT YOU GAVE HIM A BLOW JOB FOR A FEW TIMES?????
WHAT DO YOU CARE??


it just doesn't make sense,That you're into such "general discussions" about your abuser.






"Because it will only put me in trouble and I cannot prove anything.As I said earlier it is my word Vs Babas or yours.So I want to discuss it from a normal person's point of view."
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what trouble,again you make no sense.
It would only make you look incredible if the time frame wouldn't fit your earlier stories.




"You say you answered all my questions DID you?? no. you answered only one question."
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No, you're blatantly lying.I answered to ALL of your questions.







"By the way thi swill be my last reply to you if you insist on discussing ME."
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Hello!!!
you are a sexually molested victim,what else is there to discuss.
Sb's message??????? ....No, we can discuss that after we sort things out about your case.

At this point you just seem as a disingenuous person ,unwilling to reciprocate by answering to some simple most basic questions.
Like i said you're blatantly lying ..you know very well i answered honestly to all of your questions.I feel used and cheated .
You demanded that i answer...I did ,because i expected you'd answer back to me,but you refuse , by giving some lame excuses that JUST DON'T HOLD WATER.

Edited by author 10-17-2006 10:04 AM
Angel"How dare you play with people's emotions??
how dare you?"

Did I ?
Extremely sorry. That is another reason that i should not talk about my life and play with your emotions.
Angle"nobody needs to prove anything." so i need not prove whether i was abused or not. Or is this rule only for baba.

Angle"You're interested in generally discussing Sai Baba as if you're just a regular person,not a sexually abused victim."

Because it will only put me in trouble and I cannot prove anything.As I said earlier it is my word Vs Babas or yours.So I want to discuss it from a normal person's point of view.
You say you answered all my questions DID you?? no. you answered only one question.
By the way thi swill be my last reply to you if you insist on discussing ME.
All I acn say ,I did not lie but was not puorosely clear.There might be some which might be even anachronical but not untrue.

Edited by author 10-17-2006 04:03 PM
If a person is God, the onus is on him to prove it to us. Sri Yukteshwar Maharaj,guru of SRi Paramahamsa yogananda (yogda satsang society and author of Autobiography of a yogi) said before you accept anyone as Guru you have all the right to check his/her credibility.
Now that is the reason I say look before you leap.He is not showing he is credible.

________________________
why are you mentioning OTHER GURUS ,what are you talking about,nobody needs to prove anything to you.
You were sexually abused by sai baba don't you remember?
what interest do yo have in discussing sb's credibility and his "message" in general.You gave him a "blow job".

You're interested in generally discussing Sai Baba(your abuser) as if you're just a regular person,not his sexually abused victim.
something doesn't make sense here.





"you will be wasting your time by trieng to get an answer from me."
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usedbybaba i answered to all of your questions!
why don't you answer mine?

you're not fair ,you asked me all kind of questions but you fail to respond to mine.
what kind of a logic is that?

Please don't tell me you lied about this and you personally weren't sexually abused by sb.
Did i waste my energy for nothing?
Did you lie about this?
What kind of a person are you.
Did you deceive me?
What gives you the right??
How dare you play with people's emotions??
how dare you?

Lisa"You don't have guts enough to answer my questions ya coward"
Thankyou for proving me correct by your abuse.By the way have you ever asked questions about Baba and your logical conclusion that he is God/Avatar.Surprising.

Angel"You can't find the proper answers.
You had no problem discussing Blow jobs, but when it comes to telling the time frame.You're left speechless."

Yes i am speechless and i can't find the proper answer.I had no problems discussing the "blow job" then,Now I have problems.You have won the argument, fine.
Dear angel is it not funny that you tell me the whole thing is a waste but you want us to discuss the waste again and again.you will be wasting your time by trieng to get an answer from me.Instead you can try the other forums and I think i recognise some students there.May God bless you

LISA"Usedbybaba, I have to remind you again that YOU are not a credible accuser"

Logic does not need credibility.If a criminal says that the sun rises in the east, will yous ay no, because you are a criminal and you do not have credibiliy I will not accept it??
Similarly the truth about baba is what we are discussing. We have heard recently of a group of cult members believing that the world is going to end and they together committed suicide.Why did they do that? because they did not have the logic to tell themselves ,If the whole world is going to die we have no choice ,but let us not assume that such and such a thing is going to happen.
Similarly if one person says (including me) nobody need to believe.instead let us analyse and find out why we should worship someon and sacrifice our whole life.If a person is God, the onus is on him to prove it to us. Sri Yukteshwar Maharaj,guru of SRi Paramahamsa yogananda (yogda satsang society and author of Autobiography of a yogi) said before you accept anyone as Guru you have all the right to check his/her credibility.
Now that is the reason I say look before you leap.He is not showing he is credible.

Edited by author 10-17-2006 06:28 AM
"In that case please find someone who is ready to speak about it. I am not.
period"

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usedbybaba,

how come you were more then ready to speak about blow jobs and touching ,but when i present you with the most simple questions ever to which answers would in no way point to your identity you back off.

You just don't know what to write regarding those 15 years of abuse.
You don't want to write about how long you stayed in Parthi... can it match with abusedfor15years??
And finally you can't find a proper explanation as to why you ,who are "1000 times more intelligent" after nauseating experience of giving sb a blow job as an adult went to him and gave it to him over and over and over again.
You can't find the proper answers.
You had no problem discussing Blow jobs, but when it comes to telling the time frame.You're left speechless.

Look at those 3 most simple questions,why would they leave a "truthful" person mute.
I'm sure You can't expect me to believe you ,if you're not willing to answer to my questions even though i answered to all of yours.





1)How were you used by baba for 15 years?


2)How old were you when you started your course in his college and how old when you finished and left ?

3)You said it was nauseating giving SB a blow job,why did you do it few more times?

Edited by author 10-17-2006 03:39 AM
You don't have guts enough to answer my questions ya coward. You lie about that too. I'm still waiting for you to act like an adult and answer my questions ya con artist. All you do is play abusive head games which is another clear sign you are a drunkard. I am more of a Hindu than you are bozo. You don't even understand your own religion or Baba. I don't believe you lived in Puttaparthi. Puttaparthi is full of miraculous happenings yet you claim you have never seen any. Yet you contradict yourself and claim you believed Sai Baba was God. Gee are you so dumb you cannot see how idiotic your contradictions are?

No, on the contrary you keep abusing others with your lies and you know I know you are a LIAR. You are the one who can't handle the truth. Baba is INNOCENT and YOU are the perpetrator of lies. You are the one with your drunken head in the sand.

As i said .you keep abusing me.nothing else.Is baba a person to be followed .He says "my life is my message" is my first question
I can see you that i have upset you with the truth.

LISA "And once again you show that you do not understand Baba or Hinduism's teachings regarding ALL being Brahman. I'm not going to waste my time arguing about it with two ignorant people (you and Dadlani). Authentic Hindus know what I am talking"

The fact is iam a hindu and you are not i was in parthi and you hawere not ,so when you cannot you just abuse and escape as i predicted.

I repeat, if you have guts try answering my simple questions and don't run away.People without matter will only abuse and not come to the point.
Wheni ask you how baba has proved in his so called Physical from that he is worth being followed,Remember he says"my life is my message"

I'll tellyou how you will answer
you will say" You dumbo are you so dumwitted that you cannot write a sentence in english,you must have fallen from a tree or something.Maybe
you dcid not understand what i said used buddy.you are so contradictory and idiotic you are caught in your own trap, blah blah blah".
AS I SAID YOU NEEDS GUTS TO SPEAK NORMALLY AND ANSWER MY QUESTION.DO YOU HAVE IT.OR ARE YOU GOING TO ABUSE AND ESCAPE????
See how logical you are Lisa By the way Sanjay is God don't abuse him and earn mor and more bad karma.

And the "main focus" here ISN'T your allegations ya arrogant drunk. The focus here is WHO is Sai Baba? According to MILLIONS of people Sai Baba is a Divine Being. Nobody even knows who you are bozo. You are a nobody who is hiding out spewing his cowardly poison on the internet because he apparently doesn't have a life and is in serious need of some reality therapy. Got that?

As far as I'm concerned YOU are the liar and abuser with criminal inclinations, usedbybaba. You have absolutely no proof of your claims. On the other hand we already have tons of proof as to your lack of character on these message boards. Gee will someone have to hunt you down by your IP # and send you a cease and desist notice?

"this topic is about SB,there's nothing more scandalous then him sexually abusing you ,that is the main focus here."
In that case please find someone who is ready to speak about it. I am not.
period

Edited by author 10-17-2006 02:44 AM
/m567

Pathetic! Sai Baba isn't misrepresenting Hinduism, YOU are bozo! You are so arrogant, contradictory and idiotic regarding your silly beliefs it is hilarious! Since you are not even rational or honest regarding your beliefs (or anything else for that matter) there is no use discussing it with you. But it is important to point out to the general public just how dishonest and ignorant you are about yourself and your so-called Hindu beliefs (see /m566), which are not really Hindu beliefs at all. You are more like a cult-like cartoon figure.

Where are all your followers, dumbo?

re /m563

On Sanjay Dadlani's (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") blog, he said:

"Sensible and rational people who are logical and down-to-earth do not believe in things like reincarnation, spirit possession, miraculous materialisations and the like."

Since all the scriptures that Sanjay believes in (i.e., Vedas, Puranas, Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, Upanishads and Ramayana) talk about (and promote belief in) reincarnation, spirit possessions, miraculous materializations, ghosts, miracles, demons, psychic powers, black magic, shape-shifters, angelic beings and the like, these scriptures cannot be believed by "sensible", "rational", "logical" or "down-to-earth" people!

Sanjay just refuted the sciptures that are used to determine the "acid test" of an avatar. That's what you get for opening your big mouth Sanjay. lol

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed /m272

/m566: "I'm not going to waste my time arguing..."

So why don't you get lost like people have been telling you? :-)

Re: /m566: "you do not understand Baba or Hinduism's teachings regarding ALL being Brahman. I'm not going to waste my time arguing about it with two ignorant people (you and Dadlani). Authentic Hindus know what I am talking about."

No they don't. :-)

Unless, of course, we are speaking about a minority opinion that has been humilated for centuries thanks to it's extremely weak exegesis and consistency. :-)

Have fun being a minor, lol.

So now Lisa De Witt thinks she knows more about Hinduism than I do. LOL. That's it, it's all over. She's finally up the wazoo.. :-)

I am not confused about anything. I know full well what I believe and I also know full well what Hinduism is all about. You cannot explain or understand even one iota of Sai Baba's teachings because he himself is misrepresenting Hinduism. The proof is all over my blog; just put the term "boo-boo" in the search box at the top and see what results. :-) Sai Baba can't even keep his stories straight about Radha, Krishna, Balaram, Shirdi Sai, and his moronic and barking dog devotees like Lisa hang onto every word. Lol.

Meanwhile, he's getting exposed all over the place since the 1970s Bock movies for cheating with vibhuti "miracles".

Edited by author 10-16-2006 11:56 PM
Usedbybaba, I have to remind you again that YOU are not a credible accuser. You are an obvious fabricator and gossip. The fact that you have to hide so that none can look into your claims is proof positive that you are nothing but a blatant liar. And I guess I also have to remind you that YOU started abusing people just for saying they didn't believe you so you are also a major hypocrite. Not to mention I also consider your continuous LIES about Sai Baba a form of ABUSE! You consistently try to turn things around when you are caught in your own trap. I can tell you are used to getting away with your mind games with other people and that's why you think you can do it here but it isn't going to happen. You are nothing but a con man who thinks he has learned to lie his way through life. You aren't going to con anyone this time. Your game is up. You have been had. Unless you can process your claims honestly in a legal setting you are considered a NONENTITY, got that used buddy?
And once again you show that you do not understand Baba or Hinduism's teachings regarding ALL being Brahman. I'm not going to waste my time arguing about it with two ignorant people (you and Dadlani). Authentic Hindus know what I am talking about.

Jesus once said, "By their fruits ye shall know them."

I suspect you are the one who has made up the student list claiming students were molested. I guess you are too ignorant to know some of those students have come forward and said they did NOT belong on that list, that it was a lie. This is obvious anyway as not ONE of those students had EVER previously made a public statement regarding the issue.

Edited by author 10-17-2006 12:40 AM
/m564

Dadlani, you haven't demolished ANYTHING except your own credibility. You are one of the dumbest Hindus there is! Even white people like me understand more about Hinduism than you do. You have the belief system of an evangelical Christian dumbo. You do not believe in reincarnation and neither do they. Hindus BELIEVE in reincarnation. According to your statements you do not believe in miracles EITHER (even though you claim to believe in Krishna who is renowned for His miracles)! This is an atheistic belief! You are so dumb you can't even get your belief systems to be consistent with the religion you claim to be a part of. You are so confused and contradictory about your belief systems that I do believe in the end you will end up as an atheist. This will most likely happen when you realize just how much trouble you are in as a result of your incessant lies and deviant behavior and you have to deal with some very harsh realities of life.

Re: /m548: Lisa De Witt barked thus: "If usedbybaba were a devout Hindu, he would understand that the MAIN precept of Hinduism is that God or Brahman is ALL, therefore Sai Baba IS God as is everyone else according to Hinduism. So this is usedbybaba's first lie. One can tell that usedbybaba did not understand this or he would not be talking such nonsense. Other cultures may not understand the significance of usedbybaba's total ignorance in this regard but to devout Hindu's this is a red flag which shows that usedbybaba most likely has not been raised as a Hindu and may be from a different religion. At the very least, usedbybaba is certainly NOT an orthodox Hindu."

The main problem with Lisa De Witt's wholly ignorant and laughable rant is that her own "knowledge" of Hinduism leaves much to be desired. Based on her interpretation of Hindu tenets (that have been dealt with and demolished many a time) she thinks that she is some kind of spiritual authority in which she can tell born Hindus how orthodox they are!

Since Lisa appears to hold sacred a tenet that bespeaks of Advaitic (nondual) inclinations, I should make mention that this is a minority view. Not only is it in the minority but it has very little intellectual rigorousness to boast of and is incredibly weak. There are several different schools of "Hinduism" that have varying degrees of intellectual rigorousness and which are far stronger than Advaita. Some of these are Sri Vaishnavism, Tattvavada (Dvaita), Achintya-bheda-bheda, Pushti-margiya, Dvaitadvaita (Nimbarkis), Virashavism, Lingayat Shaivism, and many more. What to speak of different categories such as Yoga, Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, etc.

The point being that "Hinduism" is varied and made up of many different schools and it is upto the individual to decide which they want to follow. Lisa and Sai baba do not repreresent the majority view because there is no majority to speak of. Consequently Lisa is ill-equipped to determine the intellectual rigorousness of Sai Baba's teachings (which are hilarious and weak anyway) and she is similarly ill-equipped to judge who is and who isn't a "Hindu". Especially when she is an ignorant and hateful Fundamentalist Christian who knows next-to-nothing of Hinduism beyond Sai Baba's ridiculous "teachings".

However, if she continues to insist that she is correct then she may bow down and kiss my feet. I won't object.

Proof Sai Baba is NOT An Avatar

Re: /m551: Lisa very stupidly declared:

"You cannot prove that Sai Baba is not an Avatar."

Oh yes we can. There is only one way to determine who is a true avatar and who is not and it is a very, very simple way: The scriptures must predict his advent.

And why not? Sai devotees are already claiming that his advent has been predicted in scriptures. They are so greedy that they are not even satisfied with the Vedic scriptures, they insist that he is predicted in scriptures of other religions as well! What speak of so much talk of various 'naadi' scrolls that no one has ever nor which have been published.

Just one small problem: the propehecies are fake. Ergo, Sai Baba is a fake.

This is the Acid Test: If he's not indicated in the scriptures, he's not an avatar. End of.

How easy was it to prove Sai Baba is not an avatar? It took just two minutes to write this post. :-)

And while I'm on the subject, I also brought down another video from the loft which contains a copy of Richard Bock's 'Darshan - A Vision Of Reality'. Richard Bock was the premier devotee filmmaker of the 1970s and produced many movies that contains evidence of cheating on materialisations, although I don't think he ever realised it.

In this movie Sai Baba is in the 1970s with the famous 'short hair' look and because there is flashy camerawork, you can't see the whole incident in full since it is panning up and down on Sai Baba in darshan. Yet just before he proceeds to "materialise" vibhuti for someone, the camera clearly shows him taking something from out of his left hand.

This film shows that Sai Baba has been cheating on miracles since the 1970s at least, the old coot.

Speaking of cheating on videos, I remember reading a letter from James Redmond some time ago. For those who don't know, James Redmond is/was the official Sai Baba moviemaker of recent years. He was granted exclusive permission to film Sai Baba and collect footage for "darshan videos" and new movies, as well as being the near exclusive filmer of discourses. His contributions are so excellent that they even have English subtitles for the translation.

I don't know of his current devotee status but he did write a letter stating (in more or less) that he was leaving Sai baba on account of his sexual molestations and he had plenty of video evidence of his frauds. In another letter he made a specific mention about the famous "Bible materialisation" miracle of Christmass 1999 (I believe). He said that this video (filmed by him and sent to Sai Organisation worldwide) showed clear evidence that Sai Baba did not "materialise" that little book and that is was pure sleight-of-hand.

Even though I have had this video for years [:-)], I never bothered to check it out.

Recently (as of a couple of weeks ago) I went up into my loft to look for some stuff and I came across the tape, so I said I may as well check it out. Sure enough, I fast-forwarded to the place before he "materialises" the book and I couldn't believe my own eyes:

The old rascal has it in his hand the whole time

He never materialised it! We all know how he moves his hands in a circle to "materialise" anything he wants and, sure enough, he moved his hand in a circle to "materialise" this little Bible book. Trouble is, Sai Baba is too much of a show-off who relies almost exclusively on the element of surprise. People don't expect him to materialsie anything during a discourse so there is ample time for him to stun everyone with a sensational item such as a miniature Bible that he supposedly apported from it's place of irigin, some caves on the Black Sea.

The old squirt is amazing. He truly believes that no one is watching while he has the little book in his hand while he is circling his hand! The book is so miniature that he can "hide" it in his thumb. Sai Baba's usual materialisation practice involves all of his fingers (including the thumb) spread out. Well this one has four fingers and a thumb inside the palm, and behind the thumb is the book while he is pretending to materialise it.

James Redmond was right, Sai Baba is a charlatan. One more proof that he is a sham.

"I have already told you that i will never reveal my past.If you feel that you have answerd my question only for me to answer your my questions on me,
I am sorry ,I am not for that.You can answer only if you feel you want to know the truth about BABA,Because this site is about BABA and not me."

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this topic is about SB,there's nothing more scandalous then him sexually abusing you ,that is the main focus here.

Now answer these simple questions which in no way reveal your identity.
If you don't i can only assume that you're not being TRUTHFUL!

1)How were you used by baba for 15 years?


2)How old were you when you started your course in his college and how old when you finished and left ?

3)You said it was nauseating giving SB a blow job,why did you do it few more times?

If usedbybaba were a devout Hindu, he would understand that the MAIN precept of Hinduism is that God or Brahman is ALL, therefore Sai Baba IS God as is everyone else according to Hinduism. So this is usedbybaba's first lie. One can tell that usedbybaba did not understand this or he would not be talking such nonsense. Other cultures may not understand the significance of usedbybaba's total ignorance in this regard but to devout Hindu's this is a red flag which shows that usedbybaba most likely has not been raised as a Hindu and may be from a different religion. At the very least, usedbybaba is certainly NOT an orthodox Hindu

COME ON ANGEL,SHE IS SAYING BABA IS GOD IN THE SENSE THAT HE IS WORTH BEING WORSHIPPED.IS THIS ARGUMENT CORRECT.MY GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU.MAYBE YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF HINUISM IS CONFUSING YOU.
BY THE WAY BABA GAVE THIS ARGUMENT ONCE WHEN HE WAS TALKING OF ANIMALS(STREET DOGS)
HE SAID TREAT THEM WELL BECAUSE THEY ARE GOD.BUT IF THEY COME INSIDE THE HOUSE KICK THEM OUT AND IT WILL BE GOD KICKING GOD

Angel,Can't you say .He is God Or HE is Not.
Maybe Lisa and her friends will start abusing you, is it???

If i have to answer your question,I have to give you disconnected things.
you will ask me details which i cnnot give.

you tell me how is my past going to help you.
All that will happen is help Lisa divert the attention of this forum.
I have already told you that i will never reveal my past.If you feel that you have answerd my question only for me to answer your my questions on me,
I am sorry ,I am not for that.You can answer only if you feel you want to know the truth about BABA,Because this site is about BABA and not me.

By the way i don't know why Anti-babas don't keep pestering me with questions about me. Thanks Anti-babas

 
 LISA: "If usedbybaba were a devout Hindu, he would understand that the MAIN precept of Hinduism is that God or Brahman is ALL, therefore Sai Baba IS God as is everyone else according to Hinduism."
ho,ho,so you have come to the point finally.SO ACCORDING TO YOU ,A THIEF AND,AFTERALL HE IS GOD.Hey are we all ready to worship Hitler and in your case you are Lisa talking to a GOD who you hate (that's me).Can you worship me.After all I am also GOD.

Can you answer my point without abusing

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usedbybaba what are you talking about?
She told you something logical ...in the end Brahman is all ,she didn't say "MURDERER CAN ALSO BE WORDHIPPED".

why are you making things up,please let's focus on the REAL THING HERE,YOUUUUUUUUUUUU, HIS MOLESTATION VICTIM.

so anywayyyyyy,,,
1)How were you used by baba for 15 years?


2)How old were you when you started your course in his college and how old when you finished and left ?

3)You said it was nauseating giving SB a blow job,why did you do it few more times?

LISA: "If usedbybaba were a devout Hindu, he would understand that the MAIN precept of Hinduism is that God or Brahman is ALL, therefore Sai Baba IS God as is everyone else according to Hinduism."
ho,ho,so you have come to the point finally.SO ACCORDING TO YOU ,A THIEF AND MURDERER CAN ALSO BE WORDHIPPED,AFTERALL HE IS GOD.Hey are we all ready to worship Hitler and in your case you are Lisa talking to a GOD who you hate (that's me).Can you worship me.After all I am also GOD.

Can you answer my point without abusing.

Edited by author 10-16-2006 08:23 AM
"that is why i ask you, Do you have the guts to answer my question without abusing.
His so called physical life is full of crap and cheating and lies.He says that is his message to be followed.
Do you expect everyone to follow this.
If someone like mahatma Gandhi tells us his lifeis his message there is something.How can a person
1.got into murder controversy
2.has no propeer date of birth date,but tells the whole world a new date of birth.
3.Runs from people who are trying to attack him (which Avatar did that)
 did rama or krishna or jesus do that?
4.Does not reply to molestation charges?
 Be called God? and that too with"my life is my message.
"
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I totally get what you're s saying,he's a really controversial and suspicious person.








"I told you to answer the question : Is Sai ba is God or not?
you are saying, you don't know .
either he is or he is not .now you are trying to divert the atention by asking quetions about me."

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i have answered you honestly.I do not now,it's simple as that.
Now stop escaping 3 simple questions.I have answered to your each question,now it's time for you to do the same.
If you're being truthful you'll have no problem answering them.


1)How were you used by baba for 15 years?


2)How old were you when you started your course in his college and how old when you finished and left ?

3)You said it was nauseating giving SB a blow job,why did you do it few more times?

Edited by author 10-16-2006 07:44 AM
Abusive devotee of baba, you say "I have experienced Baba's divinity."

I say i have experinced his a molestation .both of us cannot prove our point.

that is why i ask you, Do you have the guts to answer my question without abusing.
His so called physical life is full of crap and cheating and lies.He says that is his message to be followed.
Do you expect everyone to follow this.
If someone like mahatma Gandhi tells us his lifeis his message there is something.How can a person
1.got into murder controversy
2.has no propeer date of birth date,but tells the whole world a new date of birth.
3.Runs from people who are trying to attack him (which Avatar did that)
 did rama or krishna or jesus do that?
4.Does not reply to molestation charges?
 Be called God? and that too with"my life is my message.
As far as your experiences are concerned,people have experienced God in their own Relatives like a dead Grand Father. Should we all do the same

Abuses only show that you have no answer so you are getting angry and abusing.

I told you to answer the question : Is Sai ba is God or not?
you are saying, you don't know .
either he is or he is not .now you are trying to divert the atention by asking quetions about me.

Edited by author 10-16-2006 06:18 AM
usedbybaba,
you made me answer your questions,now answer mine,just some simplistic stuff...

A devotee from childhood you say.
But it said usedbybaba for 15 years.
how were you used by baba for 15 years.
Can you explain?
for how many years were you in his college?
How old were you when you started your course there and how old when you finished and left ?
Why did you give sb blow job for few times.
You said it was nauseating?
Why did you give him more?

Edited by author 10-16-2006 07:26 AM
The point is, usedbybaba that you are being VERY disingenuous and misleading regarding the God issue. Your statements indicate that you absolutely do not understand and have not studied Baba's TEACHINGS (and therefore were NEVER a devotee)!!! Thank you for showing me what a fraud you are. You have just made it all too clear!

And I guess I have to remind you that there is absolutely no PROOF of your ridiculous claims. On the other hand we do have DOCUMENTED PROOF on this and the other board of your statement discrepancies and outright lies.

Second hand stories are not proof you idiot!
And you still have no proof that this jeweller is bringing the stuff you claim. A leather bag is proof of NOTHING! The fact that you think you can play detective is laughable! You don't even have the slightest clue as to how to gather evidence! In other words, as usual, you have NO evidence. All you have is a second hand story accusing someone of something you cannot prove. Sound familiar? Just one more reason why I do not believe you are college educated. You are too gullible and dumb.

Regarding the rest of your statements you are doing nothing but playing mind games and talking nonsense. You are a VERY disingenuous and irresponsible person usedbybaba. It is VERY hypocritical of you to try to hold people to standards that you yourself are not following. You are not a role model. You are NOT a character witness usedbybaba. Character witnesses do not hide behind anonymous usernames and gossip nonstop second hand stories like girly girls.

Please get real and grow up. You are not fooling anyone with your continuous head games.

BTW, there is ALL kinds of documentation in books and on the internet about Sai Baba. Like I said, one cannot prove anything to another, one must experience. I have experienced Baba's divinity. You cannot prove that I haven't. Nor can you prove that others who say they have spiritual experiences with Him haven't. The fact that you pretend to know more than others is very disingenuous. You keep trying to set standards that you yourself cannot FOLLOW. You cannot prove that Sai Baba is not an Avatar. You cannot even prove something as SIMPLE as fraud! You are so full of hot air it is pathetic. Also, you cannot even prove who you are ya hypocrite! How dumb is that? Please engage your brain for once and think about how hypocritical you are being.

Edited by author 10-15-2006 10:14 PM
Lisa:No one can come up with any vibhuti pellets or the name of a jeweller who supposedly makes the rings or other objects Sai Baba hands out.

There are many contributors for jwels but his miain source of purchase is from a man called Aswath narayana from Anathapur (you can go to puttaparthi and watch for a short,dark man with specktacles.He always goes alone to the interview room with baba.What is the work of a jeweller with baba,every second or third week.Whenhe goes inside he woud carry a small leather bag,filled with something and comes back with an empty bag.Sanjay ,this guy has a son who told a student friend of mine that his Father was indeed the supplier(this student hailed from the same place and speak the same language using the same slang)Now this son of the jweller is for your reference.WE knew the fact that baba was being supplied by this man.After all we have and had so many boys doing "duty"in baba's room.
As far as watches there are many from Bombay atleast I know of two. I don't want to name one because his children studied there and the other person i know only by face.
Iam not here to approve or dis approve his so called omnipresence,It is as impossible to prove as his sexual molestationsand as i said earlier,I have seen people who clearly show their claivoyant skills and after that ask for money(like begger),Do we call them Avatars???
Let us not go into the direct experience thing.Even if it true it cannot be
discussed for there is no proof.

"If usedbybaba were a devout Hindu, he would understand that the MAIN precept of Hinduism is that God or Brahman is ALL, therefore Sai Baba IS God as is everyone else according to Hinduism."
ho,ho,so you have come to the point finally.SO ACCORDING TO YOU ,A THIEF AND MURDERER CAN ALSO BE WORDHIPPED,AFTERALL HE IS GOD.Hey are we all ready to worship Hitler and in your case you are Lisa talking to a GOD who you hate (that's me).Can you worship me.After all I am also GOD.

As far as the videos,any one can see that he is doing some mischief, it isvery clear in his Linga vomitting ,but those who do not want to see cannot.
I have told you that the point of dicussion is not about what happend to me and so th discussion on "usedby baba for 15 years " and all that is irrelevaent
Forget the Indian Govt.the point is what we have with us we discuss with and not somthing that is not available to us plus the indian gvt. has also got people like you and me.Talk with what we have.If lisa cannot answer point by point to my question,there is no discussion here (with her)
Lisa ,you ask the question ,marked 1 2 3 and prove that baba is GOD.
othrwise you are just wasting everyone's time.

"so-called evidence to the police or court to prove their allegations"

When she is not accepting things right in front of her,,even if she sees baba murdering someone she will say i am not sure. she has decide that he is her GOD.She can have that view and as far as i am concerned.

To repeat by your own logic you can start worshipping Sanjay and me,don't start abusing ,IT is your logic.

Edited by author 10-15-2006 08:41 PM
Usedbybaba changed his username from abusedfor15years immediately after I started questioning his timeline discrepancy on the 15 year claim. Since usedbybaba has stated that he was NOT abused until he was nineteen, this would mean he was allegedly abused from the age of 19 + 15 years or until the age of 34. This does not match usedbybaba's claim that he was a devotee as a child and changed somewhere in between since the alleged abuse did not happen until he was nineteen and he claims he let it continue (because he was allegedly a brainwashed adult) until the age of 34 before he became an ex-devotee. Apparently, usedbybaba is not very good at math.

Edited by author 10-15-2006 10:05 PM
/m530

OK, let's talk about all the lies coming out of usedbybaba's mouth.

If usedbybaba were a devout Hindu, he would understand that the MAIN precept of Hinduism is that God or Brahman is ALL, therefore Sai Baba IS God as is everyone else according to Hinduism. So this is usedbybaba's first lie. One can tell that usedbybaba did not understand this or he would not be talking such nonsense. Other cultures may not understand the significance of usedbybaba's total ignorance in this regard but to devout Hindu's this is a red flag which shows that usedbybaba most likely has not been raised as a Hindu and may be from a different religion. At the very least, usedbybaba is certainly NOT an orthodox Hindu.

Usedbybaba's second lie is that Sai Baba's miracles have not been proven. Even the Indian government has documented and attested to Sai Baba's AUTHENTIC miracles (this was mentioned in Rod Serling's documentary, Man of Miracles). Besides this very important FACT, usedbybaba is so arrogant as to think that he can speak for other people, including me, who will attest to the FACT that Baba has proven his omniscience and DIVINE abilities to them from THOUSANDS of miles away. There are many of us who are smart enough, unlike usedbybaba, to create our own tests which can and have been documented. That being said, even scientific tests can be altered in any manner by unscrupulous persons (with an agenda) so the proof of authenticity must eventually come from DIRECT experience, not someone elses "test." It is ridiculous and disingenuous to think that spiritual phenomena can be attested to in any other way.

And thirdly, we have already discussed that usedbybaba is lying about the very subjective videos and besides that, video images can be altered and we have DOCUMENTED proof that the anti-Sais can and do falsely alter and scrub documents or anything else in order to further their agenda of lies. Maybe this is why the anti-Sais will not invite a neutral expert to examine their claims. Funny that they continuously demand others follow standards of PROOF they refuse to hold themselves to!

And fourthly, I have said before that fraud is a VERY easy thing to prove yet the anti-Sais have never tried to take their so-called evidence to the police or court to prove their allegations which is more proof they are lying. No one can come up with any vibhuti pellets or the name of a jeweller who supposedly makes the rings or other objects Sai Baba hands out. It is always whisper, gossip and innuendo. So what about the japamala David Bailey saw materialize and writes about in his book? Who is making those? And who is making the statues and photos (when there were no cameras around) Baba materializes? The anti-Sais want to be free to irresponsibly slander anyone they choose without proof and without repercussion and then whine like crybabies when they are called on it.

Usedbybaba is obviously a VERY dishonest fellow and a game player to boot. This is why he will not tell his story except in little bits which he appears to be making up as he goes along. You will also notice he is now renigging on the molestation issue and acknowledging that molestation cannot be proven! Now falling back on the very flimsy argument that the materializations can be proven to be fake!

Hilarious. Now you know why I call him bozo the clown.

Sai Baba Shirdi Lies or Sanjay Dadlani's Shirdi Lies?
Exposing Sanjay Kishore Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED")

- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 1
- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 2
- Shirdi Sai Baba Imbroglio: Part 3

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Edited by author 10-15-2006 02:36 PM
i don't perceive God as a person so if he's an avatar or not is pretty irrelevant to me.

"It is a contradictory statement.you should understand that if someone is an Avatar he is God."

well i personally believe everything is God..i believe all is one,so sb and everything else including.

Now whether he's a purna avatar with a mission or if he's just a regular person i don't really know.

anyway,
how are you endangering yourself by telling me some simplistic stuff,you're just 1 outa billion people living in India?

A devotee from childhood you say.
But it said usedbybaba for 15 years.
how were you used by baba for 15 years.
Can you explain?
for how many years were you in his college?
How old were you when you started your course there and how old when you finished and left ?
Why did you give sb blow job for few times.
You said it was nauseating?
Why did you give him more?

"YOU HAVE STILL NOT GIVEN A COMMITED ANSWER TO THE QUESTION :IS HE GOD OR NOT? JUST A STRAIT YES OR NO."

how the heck should i know???
i live across the globe in Croatia and I've never seen him.I have no idea who he is!