/m650

Kristijan, of all the things I've heard you say, that is definitely one of the silliest. I don't know how you can say that three people can all be the same and that it is "obvious" with furnishing any sort of proof, not to mention trying to connect it to me. I'd ask for proof but I am 100% sure that you don't have any. I can't believe you'd make ridiculous suggestions that I would pretend to be other people. "What's the point?" Correct, there's no point.

Funny how you didn't notice that Gerald Moreno was talking to Edward at exactly the same time, but I don't see you accusing him of pretending to have conversations with himself as Edward or Jsephine Kabutla. And by the way, why would I come on as Somasundaram to promote a site about Ramanuja? You have an appallingly bad record at trying to figure out who is who. You recently accused Usedbybaba of being a woman. Even after I pointed out to you that the "woman's" post was written in 2005, you still believed that he had written in 2005. Only when you went and saw the evidence for yourself did you take back your words. So please, unless you have some hot-shot proof don't connect me to your ideas about different identities.

And I might as well mention, your great hero Andy Rye has exposed himself as a racist. So bang goes all of his opinions about Alaya Rahm, he is no longer a credible witness. :-)

Edited by author 10-23-2006 11:08 PM
Homoreno, are you thick or something? You keep on drooling spittle from the sides of your mouth as you repeatedly keep on asking Edward the same questions over and over again when he himself has said that he has no knowledge of these issues beyond what he has read on the Net.

Get it into your thick head: Not everybody believes in Sai Baba or agrees that he is a saint. Furthermore, people have the right to say whatever they want. And what's your damn problem if Edward is a devout Christian (as he appears to be)? Only you with your silly psychoapthic ideas about Christian conspiracies can think that Edward is a serious threat to the Sai Organisation, he is just a guy with an opinion. Moron. And only an evil pervert like you could try to harm his faith by posting links against the historicity of Jesus Christ. You are a malicious and spiteful toad.

Do NOT go around bullying people and acting as if this is your forum, or I'll kick you in the face with your own proven sleaze and hypocrisy. Got it?

Edited by author 10-23-2006 11:30 PM
/m644

Oh my God, Gerald Homoreno sure makes me laugh!

"Josephine, then you are trusting a broadcasting company that Anti-Sai Activists openly claimed were sympathetic and favorable to their cause. Many Anti-Sai Activists boasted on how they worked with the BBC."

Is Moreno THICK or something?

Why wouldn't the BBC work with former devotees of Sathya Sai Baba to produce their documentary, in order to provide a balanced picture of the man and to prevent it from becoming a total one-sided devotional affair? Moreno would love to erase the controversies and pretend that they never existed, when the sad fact is that they are hear to stay. Respected academics around the world are now sitting up and paying attention now that the homosexual paedophilia allegations have entered the mainstream consciousness. For the love of God, it is even mentioned in college textbooks! :-)

This doesn't make the BBC "biased or sympathetic" towards a cause, faggotface, it means that they have an obligation to research both sides of the same coin. Sai devotees (like Moreno) are just bitter about the fact that they thought a world-renowned broadcaster like the BBC were making a documentary to glorify Sai Baba. Little did they know that the finished product would shock them out of their cocoons and face up to a long overdue reality check. I know, I was there. :-)

"The BBC.co.uk should not be confused with BBC News (which is a world famous news broadcasting company). The BBC.co.uk has been repeatedly accused of bias and they air exclusively in the UK."

Looks like Moreno is losing his marbles. "BBC.co.uk" is a website that "airs" all over the world, moron, not just the UK. Ever heard of the Internet? LOL. If Jackass Moreno wants to talk about websites, then take a look at the official BBC page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/3791921.stm. Notice how the URL is "news.bbc.co.uk" which is a "famous news broadcasting company" according to Moronic Moreno. LOL. What kind of ridiculous silly argument is this?

BBC IS BBC, there is no "this BBC" or "that BBC", idiot. LOL. What an idiotic argument. Sheesh that made me laugh!

As for the BBC's being accused of bias, that all depends if there is merit to the complaint. Complaints are adjudicated by an independent watchdog which also adjudicated complaints about the "Secret Swami" documentary. All of the complaints came to nought. :-) The Independent watchdog (OFCOM) adjudicated in favour of the BBC and there were no findings of bias. Tough luck Homoreno! If Moreno is really concerned about this, then I wonder why he doesn't mention anything about Lisa's accusations of BBC bias in the case of their scandalous exposure of the British National Party (BNP), a far-right political party that is condemned (with good reason) for their racist views against immigrants and "foreigners" in general, exposing her as a proven racist! LOL.

"In the case of Sathya Sai Baba, the BBC's bias is apparent because Anti-Sai Activist's themselves claimed the BBC was biased in their favor!"

They claimed no such thing!

"This one page does not deal with numerous other claims (from Anti-Sai's) who claimed they were working closely with the BBC during its production."

Again, it is plainly obvious to anyone with a brain that a news/journalistic media agency like the BBC (which has a good reputation worldwide for a reason) has the obligation to investigate both sides of the story. Therefore, why would they not discuss with former devotees? I was one of them. Again I say: Sai devotees (like Moreno) are just bitter about the fact that they thought a world-renowned broadcaster like the BBC were making a documentary to glorify Sai Baba. Little did they know that the finished product would shock them out of their cocoons and face up to a long overdue reality check. I know, I was there. :-)

Lisa if your joe is so clear why is that you both don't answer my question on baba, but just abuse to get away. All you both do is call people namems and when we abuse you use it to answer any sensible question.THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Joe108 "You are unbelievable and no one believes you".

I repeat.

Then why are you bothered, your avatar is not harmed atall.Then allow us to write what we write instead of abusing us. Why did you create a web site if you know that nobody is going to believe us Anti sais. Scared is it? Fear that your baba wiil be exposed.By the way Babais already exposed and we are just making sure that everyone knows about it. Edit
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Edited by author 10-23-2006 11:35 PM
Gerald 'Joe' (Ho)Moreno keeps on attempting to show how the BBC worked hand-in-hand with former devotees of Sathya Sai Baba in order to present a biased documentary. If he is so concerned then why doesn't he file a complaint with OFCOM or some other independent agency?

In the meantime, here is the TRUTH behind Moreno's lies:

Gerald Moreno's Media Bias Lies :-)

Bite that.

Lisa De Witt (/m671): "I NEVER said I worshiped Baba (I do NOT worship form of ANY kind)."

In that case, I'm sure you won't mind if I mention that Sai Baba is an aging, graying, balding, paralytic limp-wristed homosexual kiddie-rapist. He has a hairstyle that went out in the 1970s, he wears the same clothes every day, he gets pushed around in a wheelchair and he has rotten teeth. The guy is so damn ugly that he send shivers up people's spines when he smiles at them with his sex-hungry eyes, for Christ's sake he has a unibrow and a double chin! "God" sure is good-looking , eh? Maybe he could live in a house of mirrors if he didn't crack them all every time he smiled.

But all of this stuff shouldn't bother you bcause you don't care about form, right? :-)

And by the way, what kind of a thick and deceitful copycat are you, stealing my comments from sathyasaibaba2 and using them against usedbybaba? You have a proven history of having no original thoughts of your own, and this is just the very latest example. You are in a minority, the world does not agree with your views about Sai Baba.

And I'm glad you made that crazy comment (/m673) because it helped me to consider what a useless self-appointed jihadi Sai defender you are NOT. :-) Get a life you crazy schizo. Jesus hates you.

Edited by author 10-24-2006 12:09 AM
Apparently Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is posting while he is drunk again.

Poor Sanjay. Looking for some negative interaction with others because no one wants to listen to you in real life. Boo hoo.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Apparently Gerald Homoreno has nothing to answer except to claim that I am drunk, in a bid to run away from the hard questions. :-)

Tough luck handbag, your lies about media bias are fully exposed. Boo hoo indeed. Look at a picture of an ocean and cry, pinkdoll, LOL. :-)

Gerald Moreno Deception /m269

Edited by author 10-24-2006 12:40 AM
A Full Exposure of Sathya Sai Baba's date of birth and related issues and featuring never before released evidence of the Baba's school records. Complete re-evaluation of the facts in the light of new research that blows apart unquestioned and accepted histories related to the birth and school education of Sathyanarayana Raju aka Sathya Sai Baba.


A New Light - | Introduction | Bukkapatnam school record discussion | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1929 | Discussion of Sri Aurobindo's cryptic remark | Aurobindo hijacked by Sai colluders | Gerald Moreno's criticisms ridiculed |


A New Light 2 - | Criticisms continued | Inconsistent entries on Bukkapatnam record | Bukkapatnam record is not fraudulent | Apologetic explanations for 1929 birthdate | Passports are not evidence of true birthdates | Explanation for Bukkapatnam inconsistent entries | 8th Standard is equal to 'Form One' | Indian education dissimilar to Western education |


A New Light 3 - | Actual sequence of Raju's education different from 'official' sources | Seshama Raju's frequent job transfers | First-time release of Kamalapuram transfer record | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1929 (spelled out) | Transfer form filed after the fact | Raju transferred to Uravakonda | First-time release of Uravakonda school record | Reveals D.O.B. as October 4, 1939 (later corrected year to 1929) | Existence of all three independent evidences confirms 1929 birthdate |


A New Light 4 - | Recap of topic | Recap of apologetic explanations | Facilitation of Raju's career prospects is laughable | Vijayamma Hemchand appears to confirm 1929 birthdate | Problematic 'Declaration' date resolved with 1929 birthdate | First November 23rd Birthday celebration in 1950 | Discussion in light of Shirdi Lies | 1926 and 1940 dates declared an impossibility | Kasturi's sloppy research | Consideration of correct 'Avatar' birthday | Decades of systematic deception | Conclusion |

No more arguments.

Sathya Sai Baba was born on

October 4th 1929.

Notice how all of those posts were made on October 20th, 2006, the so-called "Avatar Day" celebrated internationally throughout the Sai Organisation as the date when Raju left home and became a full-time avatar.

Final editing was done on October 21st, 2006, which was the date of the Diwali festival. :-)

Hope you had a good Diwali, Baba! :-)

Too Funny.

Once Again: It is nothing less than hypocritical that Sanjay is still citing LIMF as a reliable, honest, objective and accurate book relating to information about Sathya Sai Baba. The implications of Sanjay's acceptance of LIMF (of course) is that the astounding paranormal and psychic phenomena attributed to Sathya Sai Baba in LIMF is similarly reliable, honest, objective and accurate.

Don't you agree Sanjay? Oh wait. You already agreed with me since you keep citing LIMF as a reliable, honest, objective and accurate book. Speaks volumes about the reliability, honesty, objectivity and accuracy of Sai Devotees. Thank you Sanjay!

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

LIMF also gave a reason for the birthdate discrepancy. Since Sanjay accepts the authors of LIMF as being reliable, accurate, objective and truthful people, then the following comment must also be accepted on the authority of the authors of LIMF:

"Sathya's date of birth in school records, however, is recorded as the 4th of October 1929 - and not the traditionally recognized date of the 23rd of November 1926. Talipineni Kesappa, son of Talipineni Ramappa maintains that Sathya was one year senior to him at school; therefore, Kesappa's date of birth being 11th of June 1927, Sathya's year of birth definitely is 1926. It has long been a practice in the schools to record a date of birth as being much later than the 'actual' date of birth - in order to facilitate career prospects. Sathya's parents wanted Sathya to become an educated officer. This, possibly could be the reason for the discrepancy. In addition, in 1926, people in remote villages like Puttaparthi, in pre-independent India, were not very particular about dates and birth registration was done much later." (Reference)

The school records are inaccurate and one of the records even stated that Baba was born in 1939. lol Sanjay cannot definitively conclude anything but his speculation. Period.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

Edited by author 10-24-2006 01:48 AM
It's official.

Gerald Moreno is THICK.

He keeps on citing his "Talipineni Kesappa" quote which has already been discredited in the back archives of this forum (check them out).

Three independent pieces of evidence list Sai Baba's DOB as 4.10.1929, even spelling it out for those who are thick. :-) The 1939 birthdate is obviously an error which was corrected. Erlendur Haraldsson (one of Moreno's big heroes) himself wrote of a discrepancy, stating that either Kasturi got the date wrong or Sai Baba was 13 years old at the time of the declaration. It doesn't matter, because Sai baba was 14 years old (as biographers say) in 1943, meaning he was born in 1929. Simple mathematics. :-)

Plenty of other evidences have proved the 1929 birthdate. LIMF's "reason" is bullshit, and they have made many more bullshit explanations, all of which have been discussed and dismissed in my exposé series. I personally do not care, it is a problem for devotees not for me. LOL.

No more arguments.

Sathya Sai Baba was born on

October 4th 1929. :-)

"The devotee editors of LIMF attempt to present an unconvincing argument to explain away the glaring date discrepancy by referring to the allegedly relaxed recording of census information in pre-Independence India and why dates and birth registrations were carried out much later after the fact. This conflicts with their earlier insinuation that Raju's family deliberately engaged in deception in order to facilitate his so-called career prospects by making him appear younger. Of course nobody would begrudge any parents their ambitions for their children, and indeed it is related that Raju's parents wished for him to be highly educated so that he could attain a prestigious job working for local government. This argument flies right out of the window when you consider that changing the birth year to 1929 (supposedly three years "younger" than his "original" year of 1926) did him a disservice after all; both the Bukkapatnam and Uravakonda records show that most of Raju's classmates were born in the early to mid-1930s. If the family were deliberately trying to fix his date, they should have thought about bringing it forward into the early 1930s so that Raju could be on a par with his own classmates, putting aside the possibility that their birthdates were faked too. With their "faked" date of 1929, they ended up making Raju look like one of the older children!" - Source

LOL. :-)

Edited by author 10-24-2006 01:57 AM
Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") is "thick".

IF Talipineni Kesappa has been "discredited", then this is proof that LIMF relied on faulty, inaccurate and unreliable information. Therefore, Sanjay's "Sai Baba Shirdi Lies" is all based on faulty, inaccurate and unreliable information.

It is also apparent that the inaccurate birthdate was copied to other school records from a primary one. Once again, this info is taken from LIMF that Sanjay formerly argued was reliable, accurate, objective and truthful. Now, however, Sanjay is saying that when it comes to information that disputes his "proof", LIMF is NOT reliable, accurate, objective and truthful. Sanjay is a self-serving hypocrite.

Gee Sanjay, you are such a flip-flopper. But then again, what to expect from a fully exposed pervert, drunk, racist, misogynist and pathological liar such as yourself? Nothing you say is reliable. Not even one word.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272

re /m688

Now Sanjay is bashing the "devotee editors" of LIMF! lol

What did I tell you? Sanjay bashes / accepts LIMF according to whatever whim he decides to take flight on. One word: Hypocrite.

Sanjay Dadlani: Fully Exposed: /m272