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whhhhhhhhhhhy did youuuuuuuu stayyyyyyyy there for
soooooooooooooooooo

longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg



















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p.s.

i'm not pro or anti
i'm neutrallllllllllllllllllllll babassssssssssssssssss

Joe108 "You are unbelievable and no one believes you".

Then why are you bothered, your avatar is not harmed atall.Then allow us to write what we write instead of abusing us. Why did you create a web site if you know that nobody is going to believe us Anti sais. Scared is it? Fear that your baba wiil be exposed.

Joe108 "You are unbelievable and no one believes you".

Then why are you bothered, your avatar is not harmed atall.Then allow us to write what we write instead of abusing us. Why did you create a web site if you know that nobody is going to believe us Anti sais. Scared is it? Fear that your baba wiil be exposed.By the way Babais already exposed and we are just making sure that everyone knows about it.

i'm not pro or anti
i'm neutrallllllllllllllllllllll babassssssssssssssssss




Then why are you always siding the Pro baba people,trying to find out who the Anti babas are etc.,and then doing a copy paste of Anti Babas' messages, and in turn trying to help the Pro babas????

i'm not trying to find out who the Anti babassssss are.
I want the truthhhhhhhhh..
get ittttttt,usedbybabassssssssssss

you already know so many anti babas who have even given their name ? what did you do with them .Simply said they are liers or at least acquiced with the pro babas, why??
What do you expect from us. To tell you and others who we are and after all that make Lisa and Joe abuse us.
Why are you not researching about Pro babas and find out if they have an ulterior motive etc. If you do that you can say you are nuetral

"usedbybaba", as I said before: You are unbelievable and no one believes you.

There is no believing an anonymous and faceless hypocrite to defames others unapologetically under the guise of anonymity. Anyone can say anything they like under the guise of anonymity. You are such a person and you have zero credibility (just like Anti-Sai Activists themselves).

Once again, you accused me of making money off my websites. Where is your proof? I think everyone would like to see it, me included.

Exposing "usedbybaba: Click Here

Edited by author 10-22-2006 02:36 PM
"you already know so many anti babas who have even given their name ? what did you do with them .Simply said they are liers or at least acquiced with the pro babas, why??
What do you expect from us. To tell you and others who we are and after all that make Lisa and Joe abuse us.
Why are you not researching about Pro babas and find out if they have an ulterior motive etc. If you do that you can say you are nuetral"
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what did i do with them,.Simply said they are liers ?

ermm ,no that's a blatant lie...i've never called them or anyone else a liar.
I have really no idea what the truth is,so I'm not siding with anyone.
I'm not interested into knowing who you are,nor do i consider you to be a regular typical "anti babas".
You fit into other category,you're a sexually abused victim.
So I'm naturally interested in your story,like i wanna know why you lived there for 15 years if you were abused.I'm not trying to find out who you are,just to make sense of your story.
Obviously I'm not interested in criticizing or defending pro babas since they're entitled to their opinion,it's their thing what they do.
I'm just trying to find out what the truth is and like i said to make sense of your story ,not to find out who you are.
You're just one outta billion Indians to me,you could be anyyyyyyone.

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So,usedbybabassss

can you please tell me,why did you stayyy there for moreeeee then 15 yearsss.
Thanxxxxxxxx.

/m654

Quit putting words in my mouth usedbybaba. I NEVER said I worshiped Baba (I do NOT worship form of ANY kind). When you speak, speak for yourself. You cannot speak for others even though you arrogantly think you do.

I worship the TRUTH and Baba is a part of that truth. Your lies are NOT. Got that? Can you understand SIMPLE LOGIC?

You did NOT go to Sai Baba's college. Pure and simple, YOU are a LIAR.

/m670

It's exactly comments like these which make you appear even more idiotic and uneducated (besides your incessant incoherent rambling), usedbybaba. Funny that you are treating everyone as a criminal when you can't even prove there was a crime!

You bozos claim you want people to investigate and when they do then you play all kinds of headgames like this. Part of an investigation entails proving whether you, the accuser, are actually telling the truth but you appear to be too DUMB to understand that. No SANE person makes such judgements about another's guilt unless they have ALL the necessary facts to do so. The fact that you think they should (or can) just shows that you are either totally uneducated or VERY crooked or BOTH.

It appears you are using your rambling diatribes (again) as a stalling tactic to avoid answering very pertinent questions about your 15 year claim. Like I said, according to your statements you were allegedly abused from the age of 19-34 before you left Sai Baba. This means you would have been out of college for several years.

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/m664

If Baba has been exposed and everyone "knows" about it, then how come the legal system doesn't know about it DUMBO? And how come you are too cowardly to prove it in court? From what I can see the only ones who are being exposed are you dummies and anyone else stupid enough to listen to you and your idiotic logic and lies. You keep forgetting YOU are in the minority. There are only about one hundred wackos like you who think you are the great leaders and everyone else is ignorant (even though you can't even spell or speak english correctly...I hope your skills are better in whatever your mother language is...I doubt it is Telugu as you don't seem to understand Sai Baba at all).

Not to mention how idiotic your logic is. According to you, the "great brain," if Baba is the Avatar we should just let you continue to abuse Him by lying because it can't hurt Him! You seem to be totally self-centered and insensitive and forget that you are hurting a lot of people with your abuse but you think it ok for you to abuse and you just admitted that you think it is ok! And apparently you don't believe in karma either OR you would certainly fear its repercussions.

Joe started his site because he saw, as I did through my research, the volumnous lies that are being told, the racism and religious intolerance that is backing those lies and decided to DO something about it. After all, pretty much EVERYONE knows what happened to Jesus when no one stood up to his accusers. NEVER AGAIN!!!! Over my dead body!

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/m658

Usedbybaba, it doesn't matter what anyone (including YOU) "believes" about Sai Baba. You bozos are making criminal allegations regarding fraud and sexual abuse which MUST be proven in a court room with EVIDENCE, not accusations and GOSSIP, which seem to be your primary weapons of choice! No other religion or religious figure has to "prove" their leader has miraculous powers or authority so you cannot "target" Sai Baba like the rationalists and atheists do just because you don't like him or believe in him. Are you smart enough to understand this or do I have to spell it out more clearly?

Targeting religious figures for personal gain like the atheists are doing, is one of the most unethical and underhanded maneuvers I've EVER seen in my life.

/m650

Kristijan, of all the things I've heard you say, that is definitely one of the silliest. I don't know how you can say that three people can all be the same and that it is "obvious" with furnishing any sort of proof, not to mention trying to connect it to me. I'd ask for proof but I am 100% sure that you don't have any. I can't believe you'd make ridiculous suggestions that I would pretend to be other people. "What's the point?" Correct, there's no point.

Funny how you didn't notice that Gerald Moreno was talking to Edward at exactly the same time, but I don't see you accusing him of pretending to have conversations with himself as Edward or Jsephine Kabutla. And by the way, why would I come on as Somasundaram to promote a site about Ramanuja? You have an appallingly bad record at trying to figure out who is who. You recently accused Usedbybaba of being a woman. Even after I pointed out to you that the "woman's" post was written in 2005, you still believed that he had written in 2005. Only when you went and saw the evidence for yourself did you take back your words. So please, unless you have some hot-shot proof don't connect me to your ideas about different identities.

And I might as well mention, your great hero Andy Rye has exposed himself as a racist. So bang goes all of his opinions about Alaya Rahm, he is no longer a credible witness. :-)

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Homoreno, are you thick or something? You keep on drooling spittle from the sides of your mouth as you repeatedly keep on asking Edward the same questions over and over again when he himself has said that he has no knowledge of these issues beyond what he has read on the Net.

Get it into your thick head: Not everybody believes in Sai Baba or agrees that he is a saint. Furthermore, people have the right to say whatever they want. And what's your damn problem if Edward is a devout Christian (as he appears to be)? Only you with your silly psychoapthic ideas about Christian conspiracies can think that Edward is a serious threat to the Sai Organisation, he is just a guy with an opinion. Moron. And only an evil pervert like you could try to harm his faith by posting links against the historicity of Jesus Christ. You are a malicious and spiteful toad.

Do NOT go around bullying people and acting as if this is your forum, or I'll kick you in the face with your own proven sleaze and hypocrisy. Got it?

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/m644

Oh my God, Gerald Homoreno sure makes me laugh!

"Josephine, then you are trusting a broadcasting company that Anti-Sai Activists openly claimed were sympathetic and favorable to their cause. Many Anti-Sai Activists boasted on how they worked with the BBC."

Is Moreno THICK or something?

Why wouldn't the BBC work with former devotees of Sathya Sai Baba to produce their documentary, in order to provide a balanced picture of the man and to prevent it from becoming a total one-sided devotional affair? Moreno would love to erase the controversies and pretend that they never existed, when the sad fact is that they are hear to stay. Respected academics around the world are now sitting up and paying attention now that the homosexual paedophilia allegations have entered the mainstream consciousness. For the love of God, it is even mentioned in college textbooks! :-)

This doesn't make the BBC "biased or sympathetic" towards a cause, faggotface, it means that they have an obligation to research both sides of the same coin. Sai devotees (like Moreno) are just bitter about the fact that they thought a world-renowned broadcaster like the BBC were making a documentary to glorify Sai Baba. Little did they know that the finished product would shock them out of their cocoons and face up to a long overdue reality check. I know, I was there. :-)

"The BBC.co.uk should not be confused with BBC News (which is a world famous news broadcasting company). The BBC.co.uk has been repeatedly accused of bias and they air exclusively in the UK."

Looks like Moreno is losing his marbles. "BBC.co.uk" is a website that "airs" all over the world, moron, not just the UK. Ever heard of the Internet? LOL. If Jackass Moreno wants to talk about websites, then take a look at the official BBC page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/3791921.stm. Notice how the URL is "news.bbc.co.uk" which is a "famous news broadcasting company" according to Moronic Moreno. LOL. What kind of ridiculous silly argument is this?

BBC IS BBC, there is no "this BBC" or "that BBC", idiot. LOL. What an idiotic argument. Sheesh that made me laugh!

As for the BBC's being accused of bias, that all depends if there is merit to the complaint. Complaints are adjudicated by an independent watchdog which also adjudicated complaints about the "Secret Swami" documentary. All of the complaints came to nought. :-) The Independent watchdog (OFCOM) adjudicated in favour of the BBC and there were no findings of bias. Tough luck Homoreno! If Moreno is really concerned about this, then I wonder why he doesn't mention anything about Lisa's accusations of BBC bias in the case of their scandalous exposure of the British National Party (BNP), a far-right political party that is condemned (with good reason) for their racist views against immigrants and "foreigners" in general, exposing her as a proven racist! LOL.

"In the case of Sathya Sai Baba, the BBC's bias is apparent because Anti-Sai Activist's themselves claimed the BBC was biased in their favor!"

They claimed no such thing!

"This one page does not deal with numerous other claims (from Anti-Sai's) who claimed they were working closely with the BBC during its production."

Again, it is plainly obvious to anyone with a brain that a news/journalistic media agency like the BBC (which has a good reputation worldwide for a reason) has the obligation to investigate both sides of the story. Therefore, why would they not discuss with former devotees? I was one of them. Again I say: Sai devotees (like Moreno) are just bitter about the fact that they thought a world-renowned broadcaster like the BBC were making a documentary to glorify Sai Baba. Little did they know that the finished product would shock them out of their cocoons and face up to a long overdue reality check. I know, I was there. :-)