Joe, you obviously don't know how to hold a conversation and now you have become completely abusive. I should have known there's no talking to brainwashed devotees of evil child abusers. So you are an atheist? No wonder you hate Christians because people like you will never find the love of Lord Jesus Christ. I'm sticking to what I originally said yesterday that you folks should get a life because it is just a waste of breath to talk about an evil person like Sai Baba.

This is a nice website: http://www.ramanuja.org/

Edited by author 10-20-2006 12:15 PM
Edward, want to talk "abusive"? See your first post to me where you asked me "what drugs are you on?" (/m622). Once again, the word "hypocrisy" seems to be appropriate.

Edward, the fact remains that you are a liar, an embellisher and a Chrisitan self-righteous hypocrite. You have no proof to support any of your claims against Sathya Sai Baba. So far, I have asked you for proof twice. I will ask you again: Show me the proof? After all, since you are a truthful Christian making serious and criminal allegations against Baba, you should have no problem supporting your claims.

You should get a life and stop spreading your libel and defamation on online boards in the name of Jesus (who would not approve of your lies, negativity and hate). So practice what you preach and stop "wasting your breath".

Hi Joe, thanks for the links. But it looks like concentrate way to much on little Alaya and have very little to say about the rest of the BBC movie. Your facts are interesting but I still feel you haven't proven anything concrete. The BBC is a world famous broadcasting company and not a dingy company, so I feel better trusting their reportage of the problem. Thanks anyway.

Joe, I'm surprised at how quickly you've started to act like a little child. What am I supposed to have lied about exactly? And why do you have so much animosity towards Christians like myself? I am not making any allegations against Sai Baba I am just going by what I have read on the Internet. I'd appreciate it if you stop abusing me and talking in a condescending way, talking about Lord Jesus as if you are an expert when it's been a long time since you read a Bible. This is not your board so stop acting as if it belongs to you. More importantly, I'm very disturbed at you don't appear to be concerned at all about any children who may have been abused by this evil pervert and you're only interesting in arguing about their ages and oilings. What do you mean by oilings? And why are you so reluctant to accept this as sexual abuse? Does it really matter how old they are if Sai Baba is sexually abusing them?

Josephine, then you are trusting a broadcasting company that Anti-Sai Activists openly claimed were sympathetic and favorable to their cause. Many Anti-Sai Activists boasted on how they worked with the BBC. Tanya Datta had an established relationship with Premanand (an atheist and critic of Baba since 1968), prior to the making of the documentary. The BBC.co.uk should not be confused with BBC News (which is a world famous news broadcasting company). The BBC.co.uk has been repeatedly accused of bias and they air exclusively in the UK. In the case of Sathya Sai Baba, the BBC's bias is apparent because Anti-Sai Activist's themselves claimed the BBC was biased in their favor! See for yourself: Reference. This one page does not deal with numerous other claims (from Anti-Sai's) who claimed they were working closely with the BBC during its production.

Joe, are you seriously attempting to say that some sections of the BBC are unreliable? You are unbelievable. The BBC is a world famous broadcaster as Josephine said and they went around filming everything themselves. I've seen the BBC movie and it was very good, I don't think you have a case against them. One small guy against the BBC? No way Jose.

Edited by author 10-20-2006 01:09 PM
Edward, let's see: You lied about Sathya Sai Baba being an "exposed pedophile who has raped children" (/m622), someone who "takes away the innocence of children" (/m637), someone who "stands charged with very serious accusations" (/m637), that I am a brainwashed devotee of an "evil child abuser".

Where is your proof that Sathya Sai Baba is:

1. An "exposed pedophile who has raped children".
2. Someone who "takes away the innocence of children".
3. Someone who "stands charged with very serious accusations".
4. That Baba is an "evil child abuser".

Despite publicly making these bold-faced, libelous and defamatory lies and accusations, you have the audacity to say "I am not making any allegations against Sai Baba I am just going by what I have read on the Internet". Perhaps you need to do an internet search on the non-historicity of Jesus Christ (boy are you going to be in for a rude awakening). Are we to believe everything we read on the internet?

If your statements about Baba are not lies, as I contend, then you should have no problem supplying with me the proof I am asking you for. Once again, where are all the police complaints, court cases, affidavits, parent's statments defending their children, etc.? Once you show me proof to support your claims, then I will show my concern. Until that time comes, I will hold you responsible for your words, your dishonesty, your lies and your religious bias. Period.

/m645
Edward, I am not the only one who claimed that the BBC was biased. The BBC's bias came with a self-admission from Anti-Sai Activists themselves. Obviously, you are not reading the posts (/m644).

Google search for BBC Bias.

Edited by author 10-20-2006 01:17 PM
/m633
"usedbybaba" GIVE US PROOF YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID TO BE HERE. lol

Somasundaram ,Edward ,Josephine Kabutla ,it's obvious you're all the same person.You're all posting few minutes apart.
I've noticed Sanjay posting in ssb2 at that time,so it must be you.
What's the point?

Joe, you can lead a dummy to water but you can't make him think! All the information people need in order to see the racist campaign against Sai Baba is a farce is on your site, saisathyasai.com. If people are so ignorant that they cannot understand the parameters of the legal system and how it was set up to protect even dummies like them, there is not much hope for them. Now you see how fascism begins and we know the end result.

   joe108 -"usedbybaba" GIVE US PROOF YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID TO BE HERE."

Exactly that is what i am saying and you have now come to the conclusion that nobody can prove ,for or against these allegations.Now that is why i ask you to come to a common point and all of you refuse (joe108 or Lisa or Angel)

Edited by author 10-22-2006 09:36 AM
Angel you keep harping on who is who and refuse to say whether baba is God or not .What if somasundaram and edwards are the same.Will it change the truth.

Edited by author 10-22-2006 09:55 AM
FOr your information this is what i wrote But who wants the truth . I am ready for a common topic, but Angel is interested only in the sexual molestation story when i say it is not possible to prove ,joe says there is no proof( I tell him the same) and Lisa hmm, i don't know what she wants.She told us that everyone is God and When I ask, then what is the special reason for worshipping baba, She says that she has experienced baba,That is as unprovable as my accussations ? So i say read what i say and then we can go ahead.

"I TALKD ABOUT SO MANY THINGS LIKE "MY LIFE IS MY MESSAGE " ETC., BUT ALL YOU WANT IS TO ABUSE AND SEND HATE MAILS AND PROVOKE PEOPLE.MY FIRST MAILS WERE NOTHING BUT INNOCENT FACTS BUT YOU AND LISA AND THE SO CALLED SIMON DID NOTHING BUT ABUSE.YOU ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT ME AND I REALISED THAT NEITHER YOU NOR I CAN PROVE EITHER WAY.SO WHEN I TOOK A GENERAL TOPIC, YOU KEPT QUITE, WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO BREAK THE THREAD OF MY ARGUMENT AND THEN AGAIN WENT BACK TO CALLING ME A NAMES.
ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION.
IF BABA IS GOD WHY DID HE NOT FOLLOW THE LAW IN THE MURDER CASE/
HE TOLD US HE IS OUR EXAMPLE.
ASSUME I WAS NOT ABUSED AND I AM LIER AND I BAD MOUTH PEOPLE AND ALL THAT .
BUT YOU SAY THAT YOU NEED PROOF .I SAY GOD IS NOT A HYPOCRATE. If he says His life is his message he would behave like a real example