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Topic: Sathya Sai Baba 2005: Who Is He?
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Joe108Person was signed in when posted  648
10-20-2006 01:15 PM ET (US)
Google search for BBC Bias.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  647
10-20-2006 01:11 PM ET (US)
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Edward, I am not the only one who claimed that the BBC was biased. The BBC's bias came with a self-admission from Anti-Sai Activists themselves. Obviously, you are not reading the posts (/m644).
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  646
10-20-2006 01:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-20-2006 01:09 PM
Edward, let's see: You lied about Sathya Sai Baba being an "exposed pedophile who has raped children" (/m622), someone who "takes away the innocence of children" (/m637), someone who "stands charged with very serious accusations" (/m637), that I am a brainwashed devotee of an "evil child abuser".

Where is your proof that Sathya Sai Baba is:
  1. An "exposed pedophile who has raped children".
  2. Someone who "takes away the innocence of children".
  3. Someone who "stands charged with very serious accusations".
  4. That Baba is an "evil child abuser".

Despite publicly making these bold-faced, libelous and defamatory lies and accusations, you have the audacity to say "I am not making any allegations against Sai Baba I am just going by what I have read on the Internet". Perhaps you need to do an internet search on the non-historicity of Jesus Christ (boy are you going to be in for a rude awakening). Are we to believe everything we read on the internet?

If your statements about Baba are not lies, as I contend, then you should have no problem supplying with me the proof I am asking you for. Once again, where are all the police complaints, court cases, affidavits, parent's statments defending their children, etc.? Once you show me proof to support your claims, then I will show my concern. Until that time comes, I will hold you responsible for your words, your dishonesty, your lies and your religious bias. Period.
Edward  645
10-20-2006 12:40 PM ET (US)
Joe, are you seriously attempting to say that some sections of the BBC are unreliable? You are unbelievable. The BBC is a world famous broadcaster as Josephine said and they went around filming everything themselves. I've seen the BBC movie and it was very good, I don't think you have a case against them. One small guy against the BBC? No way Jose.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  644
10-20-2006 12:35 PM ET (US)
Josephine, then you are trusting a broadcasting company that Anti-Sai Activists openly claimed were sympathetic and favorable to their cause. Many Anti-Sai Activists boasted on how they worked with the BBC. Tanya Datta had an established relationship with Premanand (an atheist and critic of Baba since 1968), prior to the making of the documentary. The BBC.co.uk should not be confused with BBC News (which is a world famous news broadcasting company). The BBC.co.uk has been repeatedly accused of bias and they air exclusively in the UK. In the case of Sathya Sai Baba, the BBC's bias is apparent because Anti-Sai Activist's themselves claimed the BBC was biased in their favor! See for yourself: Reference. This one page does not deal with numerous other claims (from Anti-Sai's) who claimed they were working closely with the BBC during its production.
Edward  643
10-20-2006 12:29 PM ET (US)
Joe, I'm surprised at how quickly you've started to act like a little child. What am I supposed to have lied about exactly? And why do you have so much animosity towards Christians like myself? I am not making any allegations against Sai Baba I am just going by what I have read on the Internet. I'd appreciate it if you stop abusing me and talking in a condescending way, talking about Lord Jesus as if you are an expert when it's been a long time since you read a Bible. This is not your board so stop acting as if it belongs to you. More importantly, I'm very disturbed at you don't appear to be concerned at all about any children who may have been abused by this evil pervert and you're only interesting in arguing about their ages and oilings. What do you mean by oilings? And why are you so reluctant to accept this as sexual abuse? Does it really matter how old they are if Sai Baba is sexually abusing them?
Josephine Kabutla  642
10-20-2006 12:21 PM ET (US)
Hi Joe, thanks for the links. But it looks like concentrate way to much on little Alaya and have very little to say about the rest of the BBC movie. Your facts are interesting but I still feel you haven't proven anything concrete. The BBC is a world famous broadcasting company and not a dingy company, so I feel better trusting their reportage of the problem. Thanks anyway.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  641
10-20-2006 12:13 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-20-2006 12:15 PM
Edward, want to talk "abusive"? See your first post to me where you asked me "what drugs are you on?" (/m622). Once again, the word "hypocrisy" seems to be appropriate.

Edward, the fact remains that you are a liar, an embellisher and a Chrisitan self-righteous hypocrite. You have no proof to support any of your claims against Sathya Sai Baba. So far, I have asked you for proof twice. I will ask you again: Show me the proof? After all, since you are a truthful Christian making serious and criminal allegations against Baba, you should have no problem supporting your claims.

You should get a life and stop spreading your libel and defamation on online boards in the name of Jesus (who would not approve of your lies, negativity and hate). So practice what you preach and stop "wasting your breath".
Somasundaram  640
10-20-2006 12:10 PM ET (US)
This is a nice website: http://www.ramanuja.org/
Edward  639
10-20-2006 12:01 PM ET (US)
Joe, you obviously don't know how to hold a conversation and now you have become completely abusive. I should have known there's no talking to brainwashed devotees of evil child abusers. So you are an atheist? No wonder you hate Christians because people like you will never find the love of Lord Jesus Christ. I'm sticking to what I originally said yesterday that you folks should get a life because it is just a waste of breath to talk about an evil person like Sai Baba.
Joe108Person was signed in when posted  638
10-20-2006 11:55 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-20-2006 11:57 AM
Edward, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. You are a liar, an embellisher and a self-righteous hypocrite. Once again, where is the proof that Sathya Sai Baba is a sexual abuser of "little children"? Where are all the court cases? Where are all the police complaints? Where are all the affidavits? Where are all the parent's defending their "little children"?

You may want to justify your choice of words by resorting to semantics, however, the term "little children" is factually inaccurate. There were only two 16 year olds who were non-sexually oiled and ALL other alleged victims were over 18 years of age and adults. If you want to call teenagers and adults "little children", that is your choice. A choice that proves you do not care for facts or the truth and that you have some sort of agenda to push (which appears to be a Christian one). Take your unconscionable lies up with your Bible, your conscience and your sleep.

Once again, show me the proof.
Edward  637
10-20-2006 11:13 AM ET (US)
Joe, as if it makes a blind bit of difference to get into semantics over the definition of children. If enough people say that he is a sexual abuser then that is good reason to stay away and keep your guard up. I can't see how you can have any advantage when you are defending someone who stands charged with very serious accusations such as this. And then there is the idea that he is God! Do you think in your own heart that God would sexually abuse little children when Jesus said in the Bible that children are pure, and that the Kingdom of God is made up of such as them? I don't know how you can stand up in defence of someone who takes away the innocence of children or YOUTHS as you differentiate. This is unconscionable. I hope you can sleep at night.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  636
10-20-2006 02:06 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-20-2006 02:08 AM
Usedbybaba, if you want to sue Baba in Indian court to prove he is a fraud, go for it. How come you bozos haven't tried it yet? Are you scared you will lose? You claim to have all this evidence yet here you are whining on the internet like a five year old. Like I said, fraud is a very easy thing to prove yet you cowards are still on the internet after six years babbling and whining like idiots!

And you are so dumb as not to see how illogical this looks to people who actually have brains! You demand proof yet you are unwilling to prove your sordid accusations. How hypocritical you are, con man!
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  635
10-20-2006 01:57 AM ET (US)
Edward, the only people who are proven to be under the influence are the anti-Sais, many of whom have long histories of alcohol/drug abuse and their irratic behavior on the internet seems to be part of that continuing drama. Unlike you we actually did our research and have VERY good arguments as to how we have come to the conclusion that this smear campaign is just that. Shame on you if you are a US citizen who doesn't believe in the legal system. Don't cry to me if you are ever accused of molestation by anonymous people and it is smeared all over the internet for the whole world to see even though you have never been convicted of a crime.
CO2000Person was signed in when posted  634
10-20-2006 01:51 AM ET (US)
Usedbybaba, you are nothing but a hypocrite asking people for proof of things when cowardly you can't even prove you went to Sai Baba's college OR your name! And YOU are the abuser buddy. You lie about others, you talk like a disgusting pervert and then blame other people for your sewerbrain!
YOU were the FIRST to start with the abuse by lying about Baba and others. If you don't want to be called a liar prove your baloney in court. Until then your very inconsistent statements are considered lies and that is why you avoid the courtroom like the plague.

And then to top it off you are using other usernames to hide behind while you spout your foul poisons! Nobody is so dumb as not to see Om Sai is YOU!
You are like a worm who thinks he is worming his way out of the mess he is in.

Like I said, you are too dumb to have been in Sai Baba's college. That in itself is proof enough that you are a liar.
usedbybabaPerson was signed in when posted  633
10-19-2006 09:25 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 10-19-2006 09:27 PM
"Edward, show me the proof? I demand the same evidence you would demand if YOU were accused of pedophilia and raping children. And name ONE non-anonymous case where Sathya Sai Baba has been accused of raping "children".

GIVE US A PROOF THAT HE IS GOD. GIVE US A PROOF THAT YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID FOR YOUR WORK HERE,GIVE US PROOF THAT BABA IS NOT A PEDOPHILE.

A PROOF IS SOMETHING IRREFUTABLE,LIKE THE GRAVITY.IF YOU DROP SOMTHING IT WOULD FALL DOWN.
i TALKD ABOUT SO MANY THINGS LIKE "MY LIFE IS MY MESAGE " ETC., BUT ALL YOU WANT IS TO ABUSE AND SEND HATE MAILS AND PROVOKE PEOPLE.MY FIRST MAILS WERE NOTHING BUT INNOCENT FACTS BUT YOU AND LISA AND THE SO CALLED SIMON DID NOTHING BUT ABUSE.YOU ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT ME AND I REALISED THAT NEITHER YOU NOR I CAN PROVE EITHER WAY.SO WHEN I TOOK A GENERAL TOPIC, YOU KEPT QUITE, WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO BREAK THE THREAD OF MY ARGUMENT AND THEN AGAIN WENT BACK TO CALLING ME A NAMES.
ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION.
IF BABA IS GOD WHY DID HE NOT FOLLOW THE LAW IN THE MURDER CASE/
HE TOLD US HE IS OUR EXAMPLE.
ASSUME I WAS NOT ABUSED AND I AM LIER AND I BAD MOUTH PEOPLE AND ALL THAT .
BUT YOU SAY THAT YOU NEED PROOF .I SAY GOD IS NOT A HYPOCRATE. If he says His life is his message he would behave like a real example.
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