"lisa de bitch y dont u shut the fuck up u silly lallupanju whore"
ubb,
why are you using different username?
what's the point?

Sai Baba? What's the point? Why are you folks wasting your breath? He's already been proven as a fraudster, you people evidently have too much time on your hands. Get a life.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 11:43 AM
hey,Angel, if u think i did the "om sai" message sorry not me.

by the way is there any way i can retrive a message that i lost because my online connection got diconnected, Angel?
What i wrote was very satisfactory. you would have got a clear picture how this Avatar thing an God is used in India and now abroad. I wrote a full page,Maybe god does not want me to post it?? There was absolutely no abuse.I t was about me and my experience.

can you see the blank page below? that was my mail

Edited by author 10-19-2006 11:46 AM
I have recently updated my thread about Alaya Rahm's Failed & Self-Dismissed Lawsuit with the following information:

Furthermore, regarding Kreydick's sworn and video-taped deposition, Anti-Sai Activists have attempted to cast slurs on Kreydick's integrity and have accused him of being "prejudiced" in favor of Sathya Sai Baba. Ironically enough, in "Response To Form Interrogatories", it was none other than Alaya Rahm himself who cited Kreydick & Family as witnesses on his behalf!

Alaya Rahm claimed that Lewis Kreydick & Family were all aware of "incidents" relating to his alleged molestation and named them (on record) as people who:

1. Witnessed the INCIDENT or the event occurring immediately before or after the INCIDENT.
2. Made statements at the scene of the INCIDENT.
3. Heard statements made about the INCIDENT by any individual at the scene.
4. Had knowledge of the INCIDENT.

Needless to say, Kreydick's sworn and video-taped deposition wholly refuted all these points made by Alaya Rahm. The Society did not actively go out and attempt to discredit Alaya Rahm. Rather, they simply interviewed a witness named by Alaya Rahm himself and obtained a shocking and damaging deposition against him.

It is amusing that Anti-Sai Activists claim that Kreydick's testimony "could easily be contested by expert psychologists". Notably, in pretrial discovery, Alaya Rahm claimed that he had suffered no psychological trauma that would have required medical or psychiatric care. Furthermore, Alaya identified no psychologist who had ever examined him! So it does not appear that there were any "expert psychologists" who were prepared to support or defend Alaya's position.

As a matter of fact, Alaya Rahm never saw an "expert psychologist" and his parents never sent him to one. Rather, the only help that Alaya obtained was a 3 day seminar from the Landmark Forum on "Empowerment, self help and personal growth" that cost $795 in June 2005 (5 years after his alleged abuse and 5 months after he filed his lawsuit)! That's it.

Relevant Links:
- Alaya Rahm Self-Dismisses His Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society
- Scathing Response To Critics

re /m615
Now, "usedbybaba" is claiming he was not abused!

"There was absolutely no abuse.I t was about me and my experience."

Weird.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 12:14 PM
"by the way is there any way i can retrive a message that i lost because my online connection got diconnected, Angel?
What i wrote was very satisfactory. you would have got a clear picture how this Avatar thing an God is used in India and now abroad. I wrote a full page,Maybe ?? There was absolutely no abuse.I t was about me and my experience."
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but i thought you've experienced abuse?

what do you mean by ..."There was absolutely no abuse"

so you're saying you weren't abused,or there was no use of abusive language in the post?

God does not want you to post it??

so God wants you to post..."There was absolutely no abuse" cause that's what you just wrote!

what are you trying to say??

please post again.

I know you(joe 108) have a website on baba and that is your business and you have to protect it at all costs. You are making money but not making any sense.
Talking to you is like promoting your site.I am not here to do that and i would not be interested in such a Human?? being. One who makes money on other people's emotions is not normal.

"can you see the blank page below? that was my mail"

no i can't.

Joe108, what drugs are you on? How can you defend an exposed pedophile who has raped children? Open your eyes and let the light of God shine in them, not the fake fraud Sathya Sai Baba. Open your heart too.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 12:22 PM
i mean i have not abused anyone in that post.It is a very long thing an i cannot write again.I 'll anyhow try when i am in mood to write.
Angel,Please go ahead and be a devotee.This is not a sarcastic sentence.I mean it .If it helps you you can be a devotee.Ramakrishna paramahamsa the great guru of Swami vivekananda said that even if you believe a theif to be god and sincerely pray to him,your prayers will be answered.In this case,all you have to do is notto hear what we anti sai's are saying except the advice "don't go to parthi, and don't give your money as donation".
if you go there you might get caught and a donation is for the baba not God

"can you see the blank page below? that was my mail"
no i can't.

even i can't see now. i think you have to go to your in box and open an old message and then come from there.It was the 615 or the 616 message or somwhere there.

Edited by author 10-19-2006 01:02 PM
You say that there is a chance that one of was hallucinating .Me or the other devotee friends of yours. Now are you not confused.. You have not seen Baba but has developed a sort of attachment ,Which I call devotion. I was devotee from child hood hearing stories of his Divinity and miracles. I then go to parthi and hear stories of students and lecturers who sacrificed to become close to baba. I was pig headed. Why, because there is an unknown desire in many human beings to be on the side of God and be called by him or talk to him or talk to his messenger. Maybe, the same feeling one gets when one feels that he is a fan of a great Actor or Singer or politician.
Every one of us want to be recognized .Now if we are recognized by God will it not be great. We hope someone is a very revered person and hope that this person has a solution to all our doubts. We need approval from this person for whatever decision that we are making .We would prefer it directly but satisfy his other than “physical” answer, because we have no choice. That is the reason for my not changing myself from a devotee to a non devotee and that is the same reason that some people hallucinate and “get the divine approval” .
To tell you in the words of Swami Ramana Maharishi “ Advita ,Dwaitha and vishitadwitha are all, right, but they are different stages in a person’s spiritual progress.

Meaning you are a spark of the Divine and if you want to see anyone as divine you will see that person as divine, for it is the desire of the person who wanted to see it that way and he/she is after all GOD (who does not know that he/she is divine).

Read books on the subconscious mind and its powers and you may be able to correlate.


Now seeing the sucess of baba,There are many more Avatars and Gurus.For eg. Mata Amritanandamayi inKerala,Bangaru Adigalar and Shiv shankar Baba and Kalki Bhagavan ( the Avatar of this Kalki era)who all have strong force of devotees from Actors to Politicians to scientists to boast of.
Now who is the real guru or Avatar.The unifying factor is that they are all Millionares within a short period. To me they are all nothing but businees people who understood the need for a "GOD SERVICE" and they filled the vacuam and are making money.Unlike people like Raman Maharishi who wore only a loin cloth and Sri Ramakrishanparama hamsa who lived a life of devotion and poverty.

I saw the BBC movie about Sathya Sai Baba and I liked it a lot. It was very informative and helped me to come to my conclusions about Baba. I don't think it matters anymore because the testimonies of sexual abuse were very telling and made a great impact on me.

ubb,
It seems you're still interested in other gurus & swamis and their views on things,you seem to be influenced by their teachings and stuff...it's surprising considering you were sexually abused by one.
You seem very well informed.




"You say that there is a chance that one of was hallucinating .Me or the other devotee friends of yours. Now are you not confused"
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No i said i don't think that was the case.


ubb,
what were you doing in Parthi for so long ,more then 15 years you said??