Edited by author 03-01-2008 11:55 PM
/m383

What I think is funny, is that Sanjay is so deluded as to think HE is going to bring Sai Baba down by writing about him! If simply writing about Sai Baba could bring him down, it would have been accomplished long ago given that even before the internet existed people who lived in India were writing bad things about him, trying to poison him, etc..

Sanjay is too blind to see his own selective argumentation, ad hominem attacks, contradictory waffling and denial of certain facts which will in the end take him nowhere.

Dadlani quotes authors/sources as authorities when they suit his argument and liars when they do not. This is typical of the anti-Sai behavior and double standard.
 
What the anti-Sais REFUSE to acknowledge is that there are NUMEROUS corroborative WITNESSES to Sai Baba's miracles which, in addition to these corroborative witnesses, include documentation such as in the case of healings, etc. Anyone who says this does not exist is a liar.
Even government officials say it is so, yet the handful of anti-Sais, most of whom are WHITE, many of whom have very shady mental health and/or criminal histories or religious agendas, think everyone should consider them MORE credible than the massive documentation regarding Sai Baba's history.

The anti-Sais want everyone to just believe them because they say so, yet call us "true believers" because we don't just fall for every hook, line and sinker they throw at us. If only they could make up their minds and quit contradicting themselves! And these are the people who originally wrote VERY positive books about Sai Baba or brag they were devotees for ten or twenty years! Now they think they have seen the light and everyone else is blind. All one hundred or so of them. The internet became their guru and they suddenly "saw the light." Decades of DIRECT experiences be damned.



Persecutors of Sathya Sai Baba

The big question is: If Kasturi could not get his facts right (as Sanjay contends), then who did? Still waiting for an answer :-)

Sanjay Fully Exposed: /m272

Sanjay, get your facts right for once! I believe in Sathya Sai Baba due to my own personal, spiritual experiences with him. I am not a devotee, however. I have a favorable view about Baba. Once again, you are twisting facts and telling your pathological lies because that is all you can argue with. This discussion has been very revealing. You just utterly compromised all the arguments you have been trying to make. Thank you :-)

Sanjay Fully Exposed: /m272

Too funny, now Sanjay said the following:

"Poor Morono still doesn't get it. I can do anything I want since I am dealing with a bunch of confirmed liars. :-) Raju is a lair and Venkamma is a liar too. Nobody can explain how they could have access to Shirdi paraphernalia in a village that was supposedly cut off from the outside world, lol." /m381

First Sanjay argued that Sathya Sai Baba was not bitten by a scorpion based on Baba's own words and tried to refute Baba's words by citing Venkamma:

"Titter ye not, for Raju was in the bathroom when he was bitten and himself said that he was bitten by a scorpion, according to his own sister Venkamma." /m370

Since Sanjay just conceded that Venkamma is a liar, then WHY is Sanjay citing her as an authority on what really happened to Baba? If Baba and Venkamma are liars, then where is Sanjay getting his accurate & truthful information from? According to Sanjay, none of these devotees and relatives are trustworthy. Therefore, all these citations are useless in revealing the truth because there are NO non-devotee biographies on Baba. Sanjay is clueless. Sanjay has no proof to support any of his conspiracy theories. It's all fluff, deception and imagination.

Sanjay, tsk. Your girly, shrieking and vitriolic hissy fits give the impression that you are coming undone at the seams. Calm down and do some japa. lol

Sanjay Fully Exposed: /m272

Aw shucks! I let Sicko Morono do it to me again! Dragging me down into his quagmire and whirlpool of ad-hominem attacks.

This pervert is pathologially incapable of defending Sai Baba in a public forum, what to speak of presenting a reasonable, rational, sensible and logical statement to save his life.

Observe his pathetic downward spiral while I go to sleep. I have no more need to discuss Puttaparthi Raju's lies with people who cannot even explain why they defend him without believing in him. :-)

For the last time tonight:

Gerald 'Joe' Moreno EXPOSED /m269 MorenoJoe

:-)

Edited by author 10-07-2006 01:29 AM

Sick pervert Gerald Moreno!

Nothing is free from his sexual perversions. First he spends an entire page talking about excrement, then he spends time talking about Sai Baba's genitals, then he talks about anuses and genitals, then he talks about covering himself with animal excrement, then he starts talking about bestiality (sex with animals), then he starts posting onto teen porn sites, then he starts projecting his own homosexual desires onto other people,...

And now this sick pervert thinks that I have incestuous homosexual feelings towards my own brother.

Nothing is free from the sick purview of this thoroughly despicable and sexually immoral pervert who cries when he thinks about the ocean.

Sick Pervert Moreno /m269

Re /m377:

"Now you are claiming that 'Narayana Baba' (a trance medium who is alleged to materialize stuff) is an authority on Shirdi Sai Baba because he says so! lol"

Read the quote properly, dumbloon. It is sourced from a challenge to behavioural sciences from Sai Baba by Satya Pal Ruhela and Duane Robinson (both well-known devotees). You're very fond of "investigative reports" aren't you, since we know you like to deceive people into thinking that Puttaparthi Sai baba has been "scientifically investigated" when he hasn't. :-)

Do I look like I care about this investigative report? :-) If you care to read the original source, you'd see that as recently as 1982 devotees of Shirdi Sai Baba, who manifested the same powers as Sathya Sai Baba stated that he (Shirdi) has not reincarnated. So tough luck. And we are not talking about the mechanics of reincarnation per se, dumbloon, just the fact that Puttaparthi Sai Baba is a big fat liar when he claimed to be Shirdi's reinc. :-)

"One will also notice that Sanjay could not provide any conclusive evidence to support his claims about dates, etc."

Is Joe Moreno dumb or something? I just stated that it's coming soon: /m372

In fact I just scanned the "conclusive evidence2 yesterday, lol. As if Moreno has any "conclusive evidence" to prove his points when all he has are the fairy-tales of Kasturi who took twelve years to write a book and couldn't even get his facts straight, lol.

"Yes, (according to Sanjay) Venkamma is an authority on Sathya Sai Baba. Her numerous statments about Baba's divinity, miracles and avatarhood must also be accepted with her statements that Baba was bit by a scorpion. You can't accept one story and reject the others."

Poor Morono still doesn't get it. I can do anything I want since I am dealing with a bunch of confirmed liars. :-) Raju is a lair and Venkamma is a liar too. Nobody can explain how they could have access to Shirdi paraphernalia in a village that was supposedly cut off from the outside world, lol.

Liar Morono EXPOSED! /m269

Sanjay, want to talk sleazy lies? You are the sleaziest liar of them all. Backed up with proof:

- Sanjay's Yahoo Photo Album Lies
- More Lies: Trying to Keep Up
- Did Dr. Naresh Bhatia Molest Females?
- Is Tony O'Clery Bisexual/Homosexual And A Molestor?
- Was Glen Meloy A "Disturbed Person"?
- Arnold Schulman And The Alleged "Serpentine Lie"
- The Aghori Vimalananda Lie
- Kishore Dadlani - Vicious Slanderer Extraordinaire
- Pious Pretenses
- Sanjay's Pseudo-Devotee Status
- The Meat Eating Vegetarian
- Stunning Tony O'Clery & Glen Meloy Update

And regarding your claim that I am wrong for "highlighting a 'contradiction' from when I was a devotee (prior to six years ago!)" holds no water because you promoted the fact that Baba's words were not accurately translated even as an Anti-Sai Activist. It is even posted on Anti-Sai Sites: Memories of a still thinking, not quite brainwashed, ex-devotee. As I said before, you are pathetic :-)

Sanjay Fully Exposed: /m272

Sanjay, want to talk incest? How about your incestuous homoeroticism for your own cousin? You are pathetic.

Sanjay Fully Exposed: /m272

And just for the record since 'Morono' keeps bringing it up, and especially for those readers who do not know much about Sathya Sai Baba in the first place, the subject of correct translations is academic.

As a devotee, I lamented that the discourses of Sai Baba were not properly translated. As a critic, it makes no difference to me because what is published works very well to prove my case, whereas what isn't published has been deleted from the records to hide Sai Baba's putrid lies. :-)

Secondly, it is open knowledge that everything published in Sai Baba's ashram meets with his approval for publication. Hear that? Every published discourse is approved. So if there is any inconsistency on Sai Baba's part due to faulty translations or whatever, it is Sai Baba who is to be held responsible since it was published under his approval.

Highlighting a "contradiction" from when I was a devotee (prior to six years ago!) will make no difference. Sai Baba is a loose-lipped liar, pure and simple. :-) Lies upon lies upon lies upon lies upon more sleazy lies. :-)

/m374

Too funny Sanjay! Now you are claiming that "Narayana Baba" (a trance medium who is alleged to materialize stuff) is an authority on Shirdi Sai Baba because he says so! lol

As I said before, these are the ridiculously low standards that Sanjay uses and abuses to promote his smear campaigns against Sathya Sai Baba.

One will also notice that Sanjay could not provide any conclusive evidence to support his claims about dates, etc. Yes, (according to Sanjay) Venkamma is an authority on Sathya Sai Baba. Her numerous statments about Baba's divinity, miracles and avatarhood must also be accepted with her statements that Baba was bit by a scorpion. You can't accept one story and reject the others.

Sanjay Fully Exposed: /m272

Hey Morono! Don't change the subject, you sly rascal! :-) We know how desperate you are to be relevant, don't we? ;-)

Sai Baba, your beloved guru, is an inbreed. Venkamma is an inbreed. Venkamma married her own uncle, her mother's brother, and had his children. Raju wanted fame. Raju wanted attention from the townspeople who thought he was a moronic child. Raju decided to proclaim himself as the reincarnation of a well-known saint. Raju is a liar. :-)

Also, regarding Sanjay's comment:

"Even after (Sathya) Sai Baba has been fully exposed has a liar through his own statements".

Sanjay admitted, even going back to the time he was a devotee of Sathya Sai Baba (extolling Baba as God based on "personal experience") that the translated words from Sathya Sai Baba were not accurate or literal translations. As a matter of fact, Sanjay said:

"Fine. I don't believe that. Why? Why because, I wouldn't know about his WRITINGS [translated (correctly?) from Telugu to English] but his DISCOURSES are most definitely not presented correctly. In fact, when I discovered this, it was the MAJOR reason why I disconnected myself from the Org. I cannot rely on anything which is published in Sanathana Sarathi, Sathya Sai Speaks, Summer Showers, etc as the ACTUAL word of Sai Baba. Another shocking statement. Cool huh? :)" (Reference)

As a matter of fact, I blogged about this on my article entitled Sanjay Dadlani and Brian Steel's Flip-Flopping .

Although Sanjay made his comment dating back to November of 2000, he currently dismisses his past statements and tries to argue that the English translations accurately reflect Sathya Sai Baba's words in Telugu. More flip-flopping from the wishy-washy and psychologically unstable Anti-Sai Activist, Sanjay Kishore Dadlani

Edited by author 10-07-2006 01:03 AM
As recently as 1982, a certain Narayana Baba of Hyderabad claimed that Shirdi Sai Baba had not reincarnated:

"He says the disembodied soul of his guru (that is, Sai Baba) talks to him. He sits before a framed photograph of the Sai Baba of Shirdi and looks at it for enlightenment... With the help of his guru's spirit, he is even able to materialise rings, lockets, and vibhuti [ash] from thin air. When asked how he produces these things he declares that the spirit of his departed guru gives them in his hands, so that when he opens his fists the object is there." - Ruhela, 'Sai Baba And His Message', p. 133-34.

:-)

Gerald 'Joe' Morono EXPOSED! /m269

Edited by author 10-07-2006 01:00 AM
Re /m371:

"If Venkamma was right about the scorpion incident, then she is also right about the numerous miracles and healings she also attributed to Sathya Sai Baba."

WRONG!

One of Venkamma's favourite stories is how she repeatedly begged Raju to provide her with a picture of Shirdi Sai Baba, since Raju was guffing all the time about Shirdi Baba and apparently no one knew anything about Shirdi Baba (ha ha ha, cough cough!).

Now why would Venkamma beg Raju for a Shirdi picture when they were freely available in Puttaparthi? What to speak of the fact that not one, but two of her own uncles were devotees of Shirdi Sai Baba way before Raju went off on his acid trip? :-) And, oh yeah, please do remember that Raju (and why not Venkamma too?) was attending Shirdi bhajans regularly in the house of a villager who had been personally trained by Narasimha Swamiji, and who got the picture of Shirdi Baba from him? :-)

Conclusion: Evidence suggests that Venkamma Raju was a party to Raju's increasing pile of lies upon lies.

'Morono' EXPOSED! /m269

Edited by author 10-07-2006 12:59 AM
Dear Dumbloon, :-)

A good question you ask, my little glasshoppa. :-)

The First Wave was about Puttaparthi Raju's terrible inbreeding.

The Second Wave was about Puttaparthi Raju's terrible Shirdi Lies.

The Third Wave is coming soon. :-) It'll explain everything. :-)

I've been giving the clues all along, but you are obviously too thick to work it out. :-) Why do you want me to answer your questions when, according to you, I am a "pathological liar"? :-) Dink! Caught out contradicting yourself again. :-) Do your own research, faggotface, and stop questioning mine. You are not in a position to question or criticise my findings because you do not have refuting information. All you have are the fairy-tales of Narayan Kasturi, who had a full twelve years to do his reseach and couldn't_even_get_one_basic_fact_right. Lol.

Gerald 'Joe' Moreno FULLY EXPOSED: /m269