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09-28-2006 02:10 PM ET (US)
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Lenin999 aka "usedbybaba" aka "abusedfor15years", you said you lived in Chennai, India. So why do you have an UK email address? What part of the UK did you allegedly live in? You never answered my previous question ( /m246): Did you use the name "ex-sai student"?
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09-28-2006 05:19 AM ET (US)
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Hey lenin999, why don't you put your money where your big mouth is and get together with Beast Master since he is OBVIOUSLY on your side and wants to investigate? I bet you won't tell even him your name, age, or where you are from originally. Why, Because you are a game player. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
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09-28-2006 04:48 AM ET (US)
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waste of time reading your crap
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09-28-2006 03:53 AM ET (US)
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Beast Master, if your intention is to look for the negative that is what you are going to find. You cannot seek the truth with a negative mind set disguised as a "search for the truth," and expect to find the truth because you are biased. The HONEST mind says, "I do not know what the truth is but I am open EXPERIENCING to WHATEVER the truth is. Open-mindedness is NOT gullibility. It is an HONEST enquiry into the nature of whatever one is focused on. And it is a process that most likely never ends in a lifetime.
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09-28-2006 03:22 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 09-28-2006 03:26 AM
We are investigating lenin aka abusedbybaba aka blldexter. You are a game player and liar just like the rest of you I have spoken to. Nobody kept you from going to the police. Nobody kept you from filing charges. The truth is, YOU are a liar and a coward. You are so cowardly you can't even tell me how old you are! Who can "investigate" a coward like YOU? You said even your OWN family doesn't believe you so WHY on earth should anyone else?
I have been researching these claims for four YEARS come this November and every accuser fits pretty much the same profile as lenin. They ALL appear to be attention-seeking pathological liars.
In addition, the Indian government has categorically denounced this group as a bunch of malicious liars so I can only conclude that the government HAS done and investigation and their specific findings are most likely a matter of national security as I do believe Sai Baba is most likely a national security asset and their specific findings are not to be released to the public. When Vajpayee et al made their very public announcement in the year 2000 any accusers could have personally raisied Cain for calling them liars but there was NOT a peep out of them about it. NOT ONE of the accusers wrote a letter to Vajpayee et al denouncing their statements!!! If I was a molestation victim I would have done that and more. So one can only wonder WHY the accusers are so VERY complacent whenever they have had the PERFECT opportunity to stand up for themselves.
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09-28-2006 02:59 AM ET (US)
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There goes Sanjay the liar again sticking his big nose where it doesn't belong. Sanjay, who has lied about his alleged experiences with the ahori Vimalananda (documented on saisathyasai.com in the Sanjay Dadlani section) has NO clue about my relationship with Sai Baba or ANY of the other masters who have blessed me with their grace for DECADES.
Sanjay Dadlani is a pathological liar who needs to seriously learn to mind his own business and clean up his life so he can stop being jealous of others. He lives at home with his parents at 28 years of age acts like a five year old most of the time. Sanjay is mad at me because I am the ONE who uncovered his sexual perversions and lies and began to began to document them in February of 2003.
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09-28-2006 01:05 AM ET (US)
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you think the so called devotees will allow anyone to invetigate. NO, THEY WILL KILL HIM. Osama must be jelous of baba for having such wonderful (killers) devotees QT - Joe108 <qtopic+29-FE68KidtskS@quicktopic.com> wrote:
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09-28-2006 12:24 AM ET (US)
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Edited by author 09-28-2006 12:24 AM
Regarding Sanjay's claim that he has already discussed his vicious lie againt Tony O'clery ( /m270) Sanjay should post those links here because I am not aware of any clarification made by him on other forums. I have not heard you give any explanation regarding your first-hand "informant" either. Sanjay, please clarify why you claimed Glen Meloy was a disturbed person and why you said you had information that could ruin his reputation. There, I just asked for your clarification. Awaiting your response. And I will aptly note you refused to say anything about your Aghori Vimalananda lie. Why? When and where did you meet Aghori Vimalananda?
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09-28-2006 12:19 AM ET (US)
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blldexter ( /m265) is "usedbybaba" / "abusedfor15years". More fake names from the fully exposed potty mouth and pervert: /m242 & /m247
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09-28-2006 12:15 AM ET (US)
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09-28-2006 12:03 AM ET (US)
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BeastMaster, I am not sure if there are any official investigative reports, like the ones you are looking for. What is strange, however, is that not even one single skeptic or critic has ever attempted to expose any of these places (where manifestations occur) as fraudulent. That is revealing in itself. Secondly, vibuthi is not the only substance that allegedly manifests from pictures. There are numerous other substances as well.
Erlendur Haraldsson (in his book "Miracles are my visiting cards - An investigative inquiry on Sathya Sai Baba, an Indian mystic with the gift of foresight believed to perform modern miracles") did investigate Sathya Sai Baba's miracles (relating to his physical form). Haraldsson interviewed many people, including ex-devotees, and all of them (ex-devotee and devotee alike) attested to what they felt was genuine and unexplainable paranormal phenomena in relation to Sathya Sai Baba. All, without exception.
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09-27-2006 11:11 PM ET (US)
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Re /m267: >> viciously lied about Tony O'Clery, claiming that Tony had sex with his first-hand "informant" and David Bailey and was banned from the Vancouver Sai Center for sexual molestation (Reference)! Sanjay similarly lied about Glen Meloy and also lied about meeting Aghori Vimalananda. Of course, Sanjay adamantly refuses to clarify or discuss these shameless lies, libel and defamation. He even accused me similarly, without proof and without remorse. << Just for the record, I have discussed the Tony O'Clery "lie" on other forums in public, in full view of O'Clery who agreed with my viewpoint and also accepts that I never lied about it. Furthermore, Gerald Moreno has never asked me to clarify the issue about Glen Meloy either, despite the fact that there is a perfectly rational explanation that was known to Meloy and fully accepted by him when he was still alive. If Gerald aka Joe108 hasn't bothered to do his research properly then that's not my problem. I have all along claimed that Gerald's research is incredibly poor and sloppy with scant proof to support his asinine accusations, and this just proves it. He didn't even know that the Tony O'Clery issue has been discussed and clarified in public at least twice, while he was supposedly a witness to the discussion. This means that he is either very stupid or is deliberately lying himself. Oh the irony! :-) And yes, this is a discussion forum about Sai Baba and nothing else. Trust Puppet Moreno to make the first move and take the discussion completely off-track when we were all having a perfectly reasonable and rational discussion about Sai Baba's fake materialisations caught on movies. Especially when I wasn't even talking to him and do not consider him to be a qualified participant in this discussion on account of his affirmed non-devotee status while rabidly defending Sai Baba exactly like a devotee, claiming to be "impartial".
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09-27-2006 11:02 PM ET (US)
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Didn't take Joe108 to start with the ad-hominem attacks once he ran out of arguments, did it? :-) And as is typical of this fella, he chooses to spend his time misusing the purpose of this site by abusing other posters. Two can play at that game. Find out all about Gerald Moreno being oiled by Sathya Sai Baba, his slandering of a variety of former devotees, his own confession to being on the brink of insanity twice, his "convenient" changes from non-devotee to ex-devotee, his flip-flopping on Sai Baba's molesting of little boys, his humiliating defeat on the Guruphiliac blog, his strange fascinations with faecal waste material and anuses, his self-conception as a garden weed covered in animal excrement, his affiliation with ex-porn stars who make sick pornographic scenes of urination and simulated eating of excrement, his disturbing dreams about stalking me at night which unmasks his suppressed homosexuality: Naughty Children: Gerald 'Joe' Moreno. Welcome to the new exposés: Gerald's homosexuality, intellectual dishonesty, copyright violations, clarifying the copyright violations, lying about the Sai Krishna picture controversy, his psychologically disturbing self-conception of being enveloped in blinding darkness, more proof of his effeminate behaviour on Wikipedia, his confessions to almost going insane twice(!), his hypocritical stance on meat-eating, pathological inability to shut up (!), having his lies about homo-eroticism exposed, his confusion about his gender, and so much more! And that's not even counting the sexual abuse, murders, lying about concealing his IP, exposed for faking emails to former devotees, having his "FAQ" blown apart (this guy thinks he is SO important that he has an FAQ!), his sound thrashing form the JuST group, and last but NOT least, the COMPLETE EXPOSURE of his shameless paedophile accusations against a respectable former devotee. Does it end there? Certainly not! There is TONS more that you don't know about this puppet of Sai Baba's that is waiting to be revealed. So don't play these stupid games with me, puppet boy, as I am not even interested in talking to you. If you can't stick to the topic and discuss rationally, then leave.
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09-27-2006 10:42 PM ET (US)
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re /m264Joe108, I went through some of the links. They have good pictures and are accounts reporting the ash mystery. I will go thruough the rest of them later. I am hoping some the links you gave would have investigative reports which are what I am looking for. - Beast Master
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09-27-2006 06:56 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 09-27-2006 06:57 PM
Please! Sanjay Kishore Dadlani (aka "SaiBabaExposed") is a pathological liar, with proof. He makes up all sorts of unverifiable stories and tries to pass them off as credible. Sanjay Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") even indulged in his pathological lies when he was a devotee of Sathya Sai Baba. Kishore Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED") viciously lied about Tony O'Clery, claiming that Tony had sex with his first-hand "informant" and David Bailey and was banned from the Vancouver Sai Center for sexual molestation ( Reference)! Sanjay similarly lied about Glen Meloy and also lied about meeting Aghori Vimalananda. Of course, Sanjay adamantly refuses to clarify or discuss these shameless lies, libel and defamation. He even accused me similarly, without proof and without remorse. Who can believe this rascal, fool and prevaricator? Expect more of the same excuses from Sanjay, i.e., that the discussion is supposed to be about Baba, these are ad hominem attacks, etc. Exposing Sanjay Kishore Dadlani (aka "Sai Baba EXPOSED")
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09-27-2006 05:51 PM ET (US)
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Edited by author 09-27-2006 05:56 PM
Bildexter, some time ago on Channel 4 (UK), there was a programme about some journalistic researcher "checking out" Indian gurus, including Sathya Sai Baba. He even visited various "miracle houses" in the UK where vibhuti allegedly comes out of pictures, etc, and even purchased a picture in the hope that vibhuti would come out of it (thus authenticating SSB's miracles). It didn't. Furthermore, the journalist figured out exactly how the manifestation was happening in the home of a devotee and even confronted that devotee about it, to which the devotee meekly responded, "You have your opinion and I have my opinion." LOL.
I could kick myself for not making a note of the programme title and other details. I'm sure I'll come across it eventually one day. :-)
The vibhuti and amrith miracles have been debunked many times by various people. I recently picked up a load of 37 books and two videos from a high-ranking former devotee, and one of the videos contains a clip from a German TV show where SSB's miracles were exposed as a fraud. Nobody needs to visit houses (or "shrines", lol) to prove them as frauds when anyone with a brain can do it at home. Sai Baba is reported to have said that such "miracles" are not his doings per se but are extensions/projections of the devotees' own devotion. The same phenomenon occurs in the case of other spiritual leaders.
I find it hilarious that advocates and defenders of SSB take great pains to research the Net for examples of miracles, yet themselves forcefully declare that they are not his devotees. :-)
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